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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 25.06.2013 23:06 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã FP-80, Kronos, P-155 
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×åãî òî íå ïîíÿë, âûáèðàåòñÿ çàìåíà àêóñòèêå. È ïðè ýòîì ñîâñåì áåç ó÷åòà ìåõàíèêè êëàâèàòóðû? Îêñòèòåñü, êàê ìîæíî ðàâíÿòü FP-7 è FP-4 ? Îíî æå ãëàâíîå. Äëÿ çâó÷àíèÿ ìîæíî ïîòîì ìîäóëü/ñèíò èëè êîìï ïðèñîáà÷èòü. Äà è ïðîñòî õîðîøèå ìîíèòîðû ðåàëüíî ìíîãî çíà÷àò äëÿ çâóêà, áîëüøå ñàìèõ ñýìïëîâ. À åñëè øêîëà è/èëè ïðàêòèêà ô-íî, òî íàäî ñ êëàâû íà÷èíàòü, ïðè÷åì ëè÷íî ñðàâíèâàòü, è íèêîãî íå ñëóøàòü, è íè÷åãî íå ÷èòàòü, è íèêîìó íå âåðèòü... Íó, ìíå ìîæíî (Ñ). Ëó÷øå êëàâû Ðîëàíäà PHA-III (-S) íûí÷å íè÷åãî ëó÷øå íåò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 05:19 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.  
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RD700SX GX NX áåðèòå - íå îøèáåòåñü! È çâóè è êëàâà åñòü äà è âîîáùå êòî ïîïàëî íà íåì íå èãðàåò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 08:06 |
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>http://www.purgatorycreek.com/downloads/K-RComp.w av >íà 1ìèí10ñåê êîðã , íà 1,20 ðîëàíä - ÷òî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ðîÿëü ? >ìíå âñå æå èíòåðåñíî ìíåíèå TC, >ïðèíöåññà, òâîå ìíåíèå ÿ çíàþ .... òåïåðü õî÷ó ïîñëóøàòü òñ ôëóäèòü òîëüêî ïîñëå åãî îòâåòà >Èçâèíÿþñü ÷òî çàñòàâèë äîëãî æäàòü ìîåãî îòâåòà. > ïðîìåæóòêå íà êîðã (01:07-01:15) ðîëàíä (01:20-01:30) ðîëàíä çâó÷èò çàìåòíî ëó÷øå. Çâóê áîëåå âçðîñëûé , äîðîãîé, ðåàëèñòè÷åí , ïðèÿòåí íà ñëóõ. Ñëóøàÿ ìîæíî ñäåëàòü âûâîä ÷òî êîðã áîëåå äåøåâîå óñòðîéñòâî è çâó÷èò äåøåâëå. à òåïåðü âíèìàíèå, ïðàâèëüíûé îòâåò! îôèöèàëüíûé òðîëëèíã îò ðîëàíäà íà 4ìèí10ñåê ïîêàçàíî ïîâåäåíèå ëóïíîãî ñåìïëà (ðîëàíä áåç ñóïåðíàòóðàë, ÂÑÅ ÿìàõè âïëîòü äî àâàíòãðàíä çà ìèëüåí ðóá, âñå êóðöû,êàñè, è ïðî÷èå íîðäû ) íà 4ìèí22ñåê - ðîëàíä ñóïåðíàòóðàë (ôèçìîä, êîòîðûé â ïðèíöèïå íåäàëåêî îò êðîíîñà ñ åãî ïîëíûìè 30ñåêóíäíûìè áåçëóïíûìè ñåìïëàìè) à âàøå î÷êî, óâàæàåìûå çíàòîêè, îïÿòü ïåðåõîäèò â ïîëüçó òåëåçðèòåëåé  çû êðîíîñ ðóëèò 
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ÁÛ×ÊÎÂ-LIUSI-PROFI-WAU2009 http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/1105/bf/94841287ad6c.jpg
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 08:08 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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 ïðîìåæóòêå íà êîðã (01:07-01:15) ðîëàíä (01:20-01:30) ðîëàíä èìåííî ëóïíûé - áåç SN
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(ñêàç ïðî òî, êàê Áû÷êîâ ðåïåðòóàð ÷óæîé ñåáå ïðèïèñûâàë) http://forums.vkmonline.com/showthread.php?t=31098&p=429902&viewfull=1#post42990...ll=1#post429902oindex> |
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Òåìà: Re: Â ïðîìåæóòêå íà êîðã (01:07-01:15) ðîëàíä (01:20-01:30) ðîëàíä èìåííî ëóïíûé - áåç SN :drazn:
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 11:38 |
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Íèæíåêðàôòâåðêñê Òðè «ÿìàõè» ó îêíà 
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Âçðîñëûå âðóò: îíà íå ñëèïíåòñÿ! [Á] |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 12:30 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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Êðîíîñ äëÿ çàìåíû àêóñòè÷åñêîãî ïèàíèíî ýòî äîðîãî è ãëóïî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 13:59 |
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Ìîñêâà Roland Fantom G8 & AX-Synth/Yamaha Motif XS7/Paradise "Zebra"
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Î-î-õ, ùàñ ìåí "ýëåêòðîãóñëè" èëè "ëþñè" ñêóøàþòü...:-( ß âîò ñåé÷àñ èíñòðóìåíò âûáèðàþ, è îñòàíîâèëñÿ ïîêà íà RD-700NX - ñêîðåå âñåãî åãî è âîçüìó - è âîò ïî÷åìó: 1-å - ýòî êëàâèàòóðà - ïðàêòè÷åñêè ËÓ×ØÀß (òîëüêî ó KAWAI MP10 ,áîëüøå ïîíðàâèëàñü, íî òàì ñ òåìáðàìè áåäà). Ñðàçó ñêàæó äëÿ "ãóñëåé" - KRONOS çàìå÷àòåëåí, è âæèâóþ òîæå óäîáíî, íî ýòî ÊÎÌÏ, åñëè ýòî çàâèñíåò - òî Ï.....Ö!!!! Ó ìåíÿ áûë M3-88, ïàðó ðàç áûëî:-( äà è êëàâèàòóðû RH3 ìíå ÍÅ ÍÐÀÂÈÒÜÑß!!!!! Ó RD è MP áîëåå ïîõîæà íà ðîÿëüíóþ (à íå ôîðòåïèàííóþ), è òàêòèëüíûå î÷ó÷åíèÿ âîîùå îôèãåòü  2-å - ìàêñèìóì, ÷òî âèäåë â StagePiano - 4 çîíû + êëàñíûå çâóêè ô-íî/ýëåêòðî è íîðìàëüíûå âñåãî îñòàëüíîãî 3-å - óäîáíîå è íàãëÿäíîå óïðàâëåíèå â ðåàëüíîì âðåìåíè - óñ¸ ïðîñòî è ïîíÿòíî áåç èíñòðóêöèè à òàê êîíå÷íî PC3K8 íðàâèòüñÿ ïî çâóêàì - çðÿ åãî òóò íåêîòîðûå îáñ....þò - ïóñòü è ñýìïëåðíîé ïàìÿòè ó íåãî íå ãèãàáàéòû - íî îí ÇÂÓ×ÈÒ!!! âîò òîëüêî óïðàâëåíèå ïîñëå íàãëÿäíîãî KORG M3 è áîëåå-ìåíåå Motif XS ÷¸ òî ìåíÿ íå âäîõíîâëÿåò:-( Íó è êëàâèàòóðà ôàòàðîâñêàÿ íè÷åãî (íî õóæå ÷åì â RD:-) à òàê, êîíå÷íî ñ öåíàìè áåäà - çà îäíè è òåæå äåíüãè ìîæíî âçÿòü èëè èíñòðóìåíò ñ îôèãåííîé êëàâèàòóðîé, íî ñ 32-ìÿ òåìáðàìè (êîòîðûå êëàññíî, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â óøè, çâó÷ÿò - KAWAI MP10, RD-700NX - çîëîòàÿ äëÿ ìåíÿ ñåðåäèíà, èëè KRONOS - íî äëÿ ìåíÿ ýòî èçáûòî÷íî) Motif XF, èçâèíèòå íå ðàññìàòðèâàþ, ó ìåíÿ XS7 åñòü, à øèëî íà ìûëî íå ìåíÿþ:-) Íå ãðûçèòå ñèëüíî
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 15:04 |
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ãäå-òî íà þãå àñàøàé Roland FP-10, CME XKey 37, Ibanez TMB100M, ROLI Lightpad Block, 
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>Ó RD è MP áîëåå ïîõîæà íà ðîÿëüíóþ (à íå ôîðòåïèàííóþ), è òàêòèëüíûå î÷ó÷åíèÿ âîîùå îôèãåòü Ïðî ÌÐ íå çíàþ, à ðîëàíäîâñêàÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî áîëåå ðåàëèñòè÷íàÿ, ÷åì RH3. >à òàê êîíå÷íî PC3K8 íðàâèòüñÿ ïî çâóêàì - çðÿ åãî òóò íåêîòîðûå îáñ....þò - ïóñòü è ñýìïëåðíîé ïàìÿòè ó íåãî íå ãèãàáàéòû - íî îí ÇÂÓ×ÈÒ!!! âîò òîëüêî óïðàâëåíèå ïîñëå íàãëÿäíîãî KORG M3 è áîëåå-ìåíåå Motif XS ÷¸ òî ìåíÿ íå âäîõíîâëÿåò:-( Íó è êëàâèàòóðà ôàòàðîâñêàÿ íè÷åãî (íî õóæå ÷åì â RD:-) Êóðöåâñêèå ýêðàí÷èêè - ìåëî÷ü, íî îñîáûõ ðàçäðàæåíèé ÈÌÕÎ ó ìíîãèõ íå âûçûâàëî íà ìîåé ïàìÿòè. Ýõ, çàïèëèòü áû íîðìàëüíûé òà÷ñêðèí â êóðöû. Ðàáîòå ñ VAST ýòî òîëüêî ïîøëî áû íà ïîëüçó. À ôàòàðîâñêàÿ êëàâèàòóðà çàìå÷àòåëüíàÿ, åñëè áû íå âíåçàïíûå ãëþêè. Íà ðàíäîìíûõ àïïàðàòàõ ïîÿâëÿëèñü ðàçíûå êîñÿêè - òî aftertouch ãëþ÷èò, òî ñ âåëîñèòè ïðîáëåìû. Íèêòî, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, îò ýòîãî íå çàñòðàõîâàí. >Íå ãðûçèòå ñèëüíî À çà÷åì? Íà âêóñ è öâåò ôëîìàñòåðû ðàçíûå 
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Âñå, íàïèñàííîå â ýòîé êíèãå, ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ íåïðàâäîé...
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 18:18 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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Ìíîãèå òà÷ ñêðèíû íå æàëóþò, ïîòîìó êàê òàêòèëüíûå îùóùåíèÿ îò íàæàòîé íàñòîÿùåé êíîïêè (à íå âèðòóàëüíîé) òîæå âàæíû äëÿ ìíîãèõ, íî íå äëÿ âñåõ. ß âîò íå î÷åíü ïå÷àòàþ íà àéïàäå æåíû - ìíå êíîïêè íàäî, à îíà íîðìàëüíî, íå æàëóåòñÿ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 18:23 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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>îñòàíîâèëñÿ ïîêà íà RD-700NX - ñêîðåå âñåãî åãî è âîçüìó ß ñâîé RD-700SX ðåãóëÿðíî ñòàâèë ïðèåçæèì àðòèñòàì: Áóòìàí, ELO, Ñþòêèí, Êèðêîðîâ è åùå ìíîãî êîìó. Ïðîêàò÷èêè äî ñèõ ïîð ìó÷àþòñÿ - çâîíÿò: "Çà÷åì ïðîäàë? Îïÿòü â ðàéäåðå RD-700!!! Triton 88 íå õîòÿò" Ïîêàçàòåëü 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2013 18:55 |
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Ìîñêâà keyboards, piano, ProTools 
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>Ìíîãèå òà÷ ñêðèíû íå æàëóþò, ïîòîìó êàê òàêòèëüíûå îùóùåíèÿ îò íàæàòîé íàñòîÿùåé êíîïêè (à íå âèðòóàëüíîé) òîæå âàæíû äëÿ ìíîãèõ À ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû íåò ïîñòîÿííîé ïðîáëåìû "âûëåòàþùèõ" êíîïîê ñ ìíîãîêðàòíûì ïåðåïàèâàíèåì âïëîòü äî îòñëîåíèÿ äîðîæåê íà ïëàòàõ. |
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ÇÐ ñòóäèè Â. Îñèíñêîãî
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 00:48 |
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Yamaha PSR-323 , Yamaha DGX-640
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AAR RD-700SX âûïóùåíî äî òîãî êàê ðîëàíä ñòàë ãîâîðèòü î super natural, íî â íåì åñòü íàñòðîéêè îòêðûòèÿ/çàêðûòèÿ êðûøêè ðîÿëÿ, íåñêîëüêî âàðèàíòîâ ðåçîíàíñà ñòðóí è íåñêîëüêî âàðèàíòîâ ñòðîÿ. Ìîæíî ïîèãðàòüñÿ ñ íàñòðîéêàìè åñëè èíòåðåñíî RD-700nx "Ýòîò ôëàãìàí ñöåíè÷åñêèõ ôîðòåïèàíî èñïîëüçóåò òåõíîëîãèþ SuperNATURAL Piano äëÿ âîññîçäàíèÿ çâó÷àíèÿ ôîðòåïèàíî; çâóêè ýëåêòðîïèàíî òàêæå îñíîâàíû íà òåõíîëîãèè SuperNATURAL." FP-7F Êîðîííàÿ îñîáåííîñòü FP-7F - ýòî çâóê ôîðòåïèàíî SuperNATURAL Piano À âû ãîâîðèòå ÷òî ÷òî 700 íåòó ñóïåð íàòóðàë. Ñâîé âûáîð ÿ ïîêà ÷òî îñòàâèë íà 700ñõ , íî òî÷íî áóäó çíàòü ïîñëå òîãî êàê ñûãðàþ íà íåì ëè÷íî. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 05:48 |
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Í-ñê Keyboards 
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>Êîðîííàÿ îñîáåííîñòü FP-7F - ýòî çâóê ôîðòåïèàíî SuperNATURAL Piano Íåò. Ýòî ìîæíî íàéòè è â áîëåå äîñòóïíûõ ìîäåëÿõ. À âîò ÷åãî â íèõ íåò, òàê ýòî êëàâèàòóðû PHA III Ivory Feel-S ñ ôóíêöèåé Escapement. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 09:17 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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Ìîæíî ïîùóïàòü êàê âàðèàíò: | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 09:24 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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ÁÛ×ÊÎÂ-LIUSI-PROFI-WAU2009 http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/1105/bf/94841287ad6c.jpg
(ñêàç ïðî òî, êàê Áû÷êîâ ðåïåðòóàð ÷óæîé ñåáå ïðèïèñûâàë) http://forums.vkmonline.com/showthread.php?t=31098&p=429902&viewfull=1#post42990...ll=1#post429902oindex> |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 11:42 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9uGG5WKKbo Ùóïàë åãî â Ñòàìáóëå ïî ñëó÷àþ, ïðèøåë ê âûâîäó ÷òî ýòîò àïïàðàò èìååò ìåñòî áûòü, íî âñå êðîìå ïèàíî è ýëåêòðî ïèàíî êàæåòñÿ äîáàâèëè "÷òîáû áûëÎ", äà è ôîðì ôàêòîð íå òåõíè÷íûé, à òàê çâó÷èò âðîäå è äàæå ðóëèòñÿ ñ ìîðäû. 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 16:00 |
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Yamaha PSR-323 , Yamaha DGX-640
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Ìîæíî ïîùóïàòü êàê âàðèàíò: ×òî íà ýòèõ ññûëêàõ? Òîâàðèùè ïðîøó ó÷åñòü ÷òî â Êèòàå þòóá íå ðàáîòàåò . À åùå ôåñéáóê , ìîé ìèð , ïîðíî ñàéòû , è ìíîãîå äðóãîå , ÷òî ìîæåò èñïîðòèòü âîñïèòàíèå Êèòàÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 16:49 |
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Ìîñêâà Roland Fantom G8 & AX-Synth/Yamaha Motif XS7/Paradise "Zebra"
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Íà ýòèõ ññûëêàõ Korg SV1 è Nord Piano 2. Íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíÿë, Âû áóäåòå áðàòü èíñòðóìåíò á/ó? |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 27.06.2013 19:12 |
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Yamaha PSR-323 , Yamaha DGX-640
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Íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíÿë, Âû áóäåòå áðàòü èíñòðóìåíò á/ó? Äà íåò. Íîâûå âîçüìó. Ñïàñèáêè çà òî ÷òî ñêàçàëè ñîäåðæàíèå ññûëîê. Âû èç-çà ýòîãî ïîñòà ðåøèëè, ÷òî ÿ õî÷ó á/ó? ó ìåíÿ åñòü 2 õîðîøèõ çàìåíèòåëÿ ïèàíèíî: 1. ENSONIQ KT-88 (ìîëîòî÷êîâàÿ êëàâèàòóðà 88 êë, îòë.ñîñò, ñäåëàíà ïîëíàÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêà) - 24900 ðóá (î í¸ì - ) 2. ALESIS QS8.1 (âòîðîå ïîêîëåíèå QS, 88 êëàâèø ñ ìîëîòêàìè, îòë.ñîñò) - 28900 ðóá Çâîíèòå: 8-926-21O5542, Ìèõàèë (ìîáèëüíûé â ìîñêâå, êðóãëîñóòî÷íî.) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2013 01:23 |
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Ñúåçäèë â Õàí÷æîó è ïîïðîáîâàë íåêîòîðûå èíñòðóìåíòû ,÷òî áûëè â íàëè÷èè . 1. YAMAHA CLP430. Çâó÷èò äîñòîéíî. õîðîøàÿ çàìåíà ñðåäíåãî ïèàíèíî. Íîòû çâó÷àò õîðîøî . Ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ YAMAHA DGX-640 , êàê Æèãóëè è èíîìàðêà . Íåò ãóëà. Ðåçîíàíñà ñòðóí íåò , à åñëè è åñòü òî î÷åíü ñëàá. Êëàâèàòóðà ìíå íå ïîíðàâèëàñü, ìÿãêàÿ , õîðîøî ðåàãèðóåò íà ñèëó íàæàòèÿ, íî ñêîëüçêàÿ. Ïàëüöû òàê è ñêîëüçÿò ïî íåé , íàæèìàåøü íà äðóãóþ, íóæíî ïðèâûêàòü.  ïðèíöèïå ìîæíî êóïèòü , íî ìíå âàæåí ìàëåíüêèé âåñ, ÷òîáû òàñêàòü ñ ñîáîé . 2. Roland FP-7F . Áûëà òîëüêî îäíà îòêðûòàÿ , íà êàòàðîì êèòàéöû ñàìè ìóòÿò. Âñòðîåííàÿ àêóñòèêà íå ðàáîòàëà , áûëà îíà ïîäêëþ÷åíà ê êàêîìó òî ãèòàðíîìó êàáèíåòó ÷åðåç ÷òî òî è ýòîò ÷òî òî ê ÷åìó òî , ê êîòîðîìó áûëè ïîäêëþ÷åíû åùå è ãèòàðû . Ïðî çâóê íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿë, ñëûøàë òîëüêî êàêóþ òî ÷óøü. Íî êëàâèàòóðà ïîíðàâèëàñü áîëüøå. Ïàëüöû íå ñêîëüçÿò , è áîëåå æåñòêèå , íî âñå ðàâíî íå òå ÷óâñòâà ÷òî îò êëàâèàòóðû ïèàíèíî. Ëèðè÷åñêîå îòñòóïëåíèå.  ìàãàçèíàõ áûëî ìíîãî àêóñòè÷åñêèõ ïèàíèí. Íàìíîãî áîëüøå, ÷åì êàêèõ ëèáî äðóãèõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ. Êîíå÷íî, ñûãðàë ÿ íà óéìå øòóê. Èãðàÿ íà äåøåâûõ êèòàéñêèõ ïðîñòî ïîëó÷àë ïðèòóïëåííûé çâóêè , èãðàòü íà íèõ è ñëóøàòü ìîæíî , íî íå áåç âåëèêèõ ýìîöèé. YAMAHA CLP430 çâó÷àë çíà÷èòåëüíî ëó÷øå, õîòÿ êëàâèàòóðà íà êèòàéñêèõ ïèàíèíàõ ëó÷øå â ðàçû. Èãðàÿ íà íåìåöêèõ ïèàíèíàõ , ÿ âîñõèùàëñÿ çâóêîì, ðàñòâîðÿëñÿ â ìåëîäèè , â âåëè÷èè òîãî äóõà ìóçûêè , ÷òî èçäàåò ïèàíèíî . Çàìåíèòü õîðîøåå ïèàíèíî ýëåêòðîíèêîé íåâîçìîæíî, Ìîæíî ïðîñòî ïîéòè íà êîìïðîìèññû è óäîâëåòâîðèòüñÿ . Ïîêà îáñòîÿòåëüñòâà íå ïîçâîëÿþò ìíå ïðèîáðåñòè õîðîøåå ïèàíèíî , ïîýòîìó ÿ âûíóæäåí êóïèòü ñèìóëÿíòà, íî êîãäà áóäóò âîçìîæíîñòè ÿ îáÿçàòåëüíî êóïëþ ïèàíèíî. Íàöåëèëñÿ íà Nord Piano 2 . Êòî ÷òî ìîæåò ñêàçàòü ïðî äàííûé àïïàðàò. Âûáèðàþ ìåæäó Nord piano2 è Roland RD-700SX . Êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà ìåæäó Roland RD-700SX è Roland RD-300 ? |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2013 02:33 |
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Íààðèÿ Èçðàèëü Yamaha MOXF6 Roland Fantom-06, Roland Aerophone AE-30 Pro 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2013 08:28 |
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Yamaha PSR-323 , Yamaha DGX-640
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À åù¸ åñòü Roland RD-700NX Êàê ÿ ïîíÿë ïî îòçûâàì ðåáÿò îòñþäà æå Roland RD-700SX ëó÷øå , ÷åì Roland RD-700NÕ |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 09.07.2013 13:13 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã FP-80, Kronos, P-155
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À ãäå âû âîîáùå 700SX ðàñêîïàëè? Îí âûïóñêàëñÿ òî êàæèñü âñåãî ãîä-äâà ñ 2004, ïîòîì GX ïðèøåë, êîòîðûé óæå SN è óæå ãîäà 4 êàê òîëüêî NX. Íà íåêîòîðûå âêóñû ïî êëàâèàòóðå SX áûë áëèæå ê àêóñòèêå, ÷åì ïîñëåäóþùèå GX NX, íî ÷òîáû óæ ïðÿìî "ëó÷øå", òàêîãî ÿ íå ñëûøàë. ß êàê òî äóìàë SX áðàòü, íî íàéòè íà âòîðè÷íîì ðûíêå íå çàòîïòàííóþ äîìàøíþþ ìîäåëü ýòîãî èíñòðóìåíòà îêàçàëîñü äîâîëüíî òðóäíî. Êñòàòè è FP7 è FP4 òîæå óæå íåòó. Ñ ýòîãî ãîäà âìåñòî íèõ FP-80 è FP-50 |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 10.07.2013 01:18 |
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Íààðèÿ Èçðàèëü Yamaha MOXF6 Roland Fantom-06, Roland Aerophone AE-30 Pro
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À êñòàòè, âîò æå åù¸ åñòü è kurzweil sp5-8. Òîæå âïîëíå äîñòîéíûé èíñòðóìåíò. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 10.07.2013 04:19 |
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>Ñ ýòîãî ãîäà âìåñòî íèõ FP-80 è FP-50 Ïðîáîâàë îáà íà âûñòàâêå, ñ ïåðâûì ïðàâäà ïðîáûë íåäîëãî - óíåñëè â äåìî-çàë íà ïðåçåíòàöèþ. Ïî ïîâîäó âòîðîãî îñòàëèñü íåïðèÿòíûå âîñïîìèíàíèÿ ïî âñòðîåííîé àêóñòèêå (åñëè êîìó-òî ýòî âàæíî äëÿ äîìàøíåãî ìóçèöèðîâàíèÿ). Òàêîå âïå÷àòëåíèå áûëî, ÷òî çâóê íà âûõîäå èíñòðóìåíòà ïðîïóùåí ÷åðåç ôèëüòð ñ ÿâíî âûðàæåííûì ðåçîíàíñîì. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 10.07.2013 13:09 |
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Alex_HS , Ýõ æàëü ïî ïîâîäó FP-80, õîòåëîñü áû õîòü íåìíîãî îòçûâà îò ñâîèõ. ß âñåðüåç ïîäóìûâàþ åãî êóïèòü, êàê ñàìûé äåøåâûé âàðèàíò ñ PHA-III. Èíôû î÷åíü ìàëî ïîêà, ïî÷òè íåò. Îñíîâíîé âîïðîñ - â òî÷íîñòè ëè êëàâèàòóðà PHA-III-S ñîîòâåòñòâóåò PHA-III ïðîñòî, áåç -S ? Ïðîñòóþ ÿ äîñòàòî÷íî èñïûòàë íà HP-5... è ìíå îíà íà âñå 100% ïîíðàâèëàñü. Íåìíîãî åùå íà ÷óæîì 700NX òàì ÷óòü ïîêàçàëîñü äðóãîé, íî ýòî áûëî ñ ðàçðûâîì ïî âðåìåíè, íå óâåðåí ÷òî ðàçíèöà åñòü, õîòÿ íà âèä êëàâèøè ðàçíûå ïî öâåòó. Íà pianoworld âñòðåòèë äâà ìíåíèÿ, âîò äàæå ñîõðàíèë, Ïåðâîå: PHA III Ivory Feel is the "full quality" version. If having the name extended with "-S" it is of lower quality . I somehow have the idea, that the "-S" are a little bit smaller, to better fit to the needs of a portable piano, and subsequently the "-S" acts slightly different (not as good) than the 'full sized' version. There was also a "-G" on the market, even lower quality than the "-S", and you wouldn´t want to go for that one. È âòîðîå: RD-700NX: 88 keys (PHA III Ivory Feel Keyboard with Escapement) FP-7F: 88 keys (PHA III Ivory Feel-S Keyboard with Escapement) I'm uncertain quite what the 'S' indicates on the Ivory Feel, but this may explain why the Roland chap believes the actions on the two models feel slightly different. I'm 99% positive that the only difference in the actual actions/keys between the two is the FP-7F has all white keys whereas the RD-700NX has the white caps on woodish color base keys . The Roland tech was probably right about why the two feel different. It's most likely the different chassis they sit in. FP-80 ïîä çàêàç ñ ïðåäîïëàòîé, ò.å. íå ïîïðîáîâàâ ëè÷íî. Ó÷èòûâàÿ, ÷òî FP-7 ïî êëàâå ÿâíî îäèíàêîâà ñ FP-80 ïûòàëñÿ õîòü ïåðâóþ íàéòè æèâüåì, íî íå íàøåë. Çâóêè òàì îñíîâíûå èç 700NX, äèíàìèêè ìíå ïî ôèãó, à âîò çà êëàâó ÷óòü ñòðàøíî, âäðóã è â ñàìîì äåëå îêàæåòñÿ with "-S" it is of lower quality Ïîéäó åùå ÷èòàòü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 10.07.2013 13:24 |
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FP-7 - íå FP-7F È â îïèñàíèè FP-80 ÿ íå íàø¸ë óïîìèíàíèé PHA3 |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 10.07.2013 13:37 |
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Îëåã , Íó äà ïîä FP-7 ÿ èìåþ ââèäó FP-7F. FP-7 ýòî åùå ñòàðåå ïîêîëåíèå. Ïî ïîâîäó PHA-III ÿ òîæå çàìåòèë. òàì Ivory Feel-S Keyboard with Escapement Âðîäå ïèøóò, ÷òî ýòî âñå òà æå êëàâà, ïðîñòî íàçâàíèå ñîêðàòèëè/èçìåíèëè. .Íî ñîìíåíèÿ íà ôîíå îòñóòñòâèÿ îôô.èíôîðìàöèè ïðèñóòñòâóþò êîíå÷íî. Âåùü íå ôèãà íå äåøåâàÿ. Íàäî áû ñàìîìó èñïûòàòü êîíå÷íî, íî äëÿ êàê ìèíèìóì íàäî ýòîãî â äðóãîé ãîðîä åõàòü. HP ñåðèè âåçäå ïîëíî, à FP íåòó. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 10.07.2013 15:31 |
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Íó âîò, åùå ýòî âûñêàçûâàíèå: According to Roland brochures, Ivory Feel-S (former known as PHA III Ivory Feel-S) is almost identical to PHA-III except for the fact Ivory Feel-S is built on a single plastic piece instead of two. I guess this has to do with the lack of the wooden imitation side PHA III has. HP-503 (Ivory Feel-S) and HP-505 (PHA III) feel different each other but IMHO it's not due to the action, which is almost identical, but due to amp+speakers. The final feedback the player receives depends on the sum of many factors, not only the action. As we usually see on Yamaha GH, just the same action may feel quite different on different instruments. Òî åñòü ïèøóò, ÷òî PHA-III Ýòî ïðîñòî ïðåäûäóùåå íàçâàíèå, à -S îçíà÷àåò Solid òî åñòü èç îäíîöâåòíîãî ïëàñòèêà. Ïîñìîòðåë ÿ íà êàðòèíêè âñåõ ýòèõ êëàâèø - íà âèä è âïðÿìü îäèíàêîâûå ))) Íàäåþñü, ÷òî è âïðÿìü, ýòî òîëüêî íàçâàíèå - PHA ...1, 2,3 îçíà÷àåò âðîäå âñåãî ëèøü Progressive Hammer Action, òî åñòü ðàçëè÷èå â òÿæåñòè îò íèæíèõ ê âåðíèì. Ïîÿâèëàñü ýòà PHA êëàâà íà÷èíàÿ êàê ðàç ñ 700SX, à äî òîãî â Ðîëàíäû âîîáùå Fatar ñòàâèëè, ÷òî ÿ çíàþ òî÷íî, ó ìåíÿ íûíåøíÿÿ êëàâà RD-100 2001 ãîäà ñ Fatar TP10 âíóòðè, è áûë åùå RD-300 ñ FATAR TP40M, êîòîðûé òðàãè÷åñêè ïîãèá ïðè íåóäà÷íîé òðàíñïîðèðîâêå. À, ëàäíî, áûëà íå áûëà, çàêàçûâàþ FP-80...  êðàéíåì ñëó÷àå ïðîäàì, íå âïåðâîé ìíå ýòè ñòðàäàíèÿ ))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
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ó ìåíÿ åñòü ëó÷øèé çàìåíèòåëü æèâîãî ïèàíèíà: ýëåêòðîïèàíî ROLAND FP-5 (ßïîíèÿ, 88 êëàâèø, USB, âñòðîåíû äèíàìèêè, îòë.ñîñò, áîíóñ: ïîêðûâàëî) - 39900 ðóá (î íåì - ) -- ôèðìåííàÿ ñòîéêà Roland FPS-11A (î íåé - ) - 4500 ðóá -- ïåäàëü ñóñòåéíà ðîÿëüíàÿ ÐÎËÀÍÄ - 1500 ðóá Çâîíèòå: 8-926-21O5542, Ìèõàèë (ìîáèëüíûé â ìîñêâå, êðóãëîñóòî÷íî.) |
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