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Òåìà: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
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Yamaha PSR-323 , Yamaha DGX-640 
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Äîáðûé äåíü òîâàðèùè. Îñíîâíàÿ öåëü ïîêóïêè, êàê ìîæíî êà÷åñòâåííàÿ çàìåíà àêóñòè÷åñêîãî ïèàíèíî ïðè ìàëûõ ãàáàðèòàõ. ×òî èç ýòèõ ìîäåëåé âû ïîñîâåòóåòå èëè êàêèå ìîäåëè åùå ðàññìîòðåòü. Roland RD700SX, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155 Íà ñêîëüêî õîðîøè ïî çâó÷àíèþ, êàê ïèàíèíî Roland RD700SX è Yamaha S90ES. Êàêîé èç ýòèõ äâóõ áîëåå êà÷åñòâåííî çàìåíèò ïèàíèíî? Êàê çâó÷èò Roland FP-4F è Yamaha P155 è ìîæíî ëè ñðàâíèâàòü èõ çâó÷àíèå ñ Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES . Òàê æå õî÷åòñÿ èìåòü íà áîðòó è äðóãèå îñíîâíûå èíñòðóìåíòû. Ìàëåíüêèé áðàò èãðàë íà Yamaha psr-323. Êóïèëè êàê ïåðâûé äåøåâûé èíñòðóìåíò , ÷òîáû óçíàòü íå ïðîïàäåò ëè ñî âðåìåíåì æåëàíèå. Ñåáå ÿ êóïèë Yamaha DGX-640, ïîâåëñÿ íà öåíó (ñêóïîé ïëàòèò äâàæäû) , íî åãî çâó÷àíèå ìåíÿ íè êàê íå óñòðàèâàëî, êðîìå òîãî ïîëíîñòüþ îòïàëî æåëàíèÿ èãðàòü íà íåì , çâóê DGX-640 äëÿ ìåíÿ ñðàâíèì , êàê î÷åíü íåêà÷åñòâåííàÿ ñèìóëÿöèÿ ,íîòû çâó÷àò íå òàê è ìóçûêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íå òà . Îáà èíñòðóìåíòà ìû ïðîäàëè è ñåé÷àñ õîòèì êóïèòü ,÷òî òî ñòîÿùåå íà äâîèõ. Ìíå êàê ïèàíèíî , à áðàòó, êàê ñèíòåçàòîð . Èãðàþ ÿ â îñíîâíîì êëàññèêó , áðàò ïîïñó . Èãðàåì äëÿ ñåáÿ , äëÿ äóøè . Âñåì ñïàñèáî çà ïîìîùü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 05:33 |
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HHîâãîðîä Pà800, Pa4x, TritonR RolandC200,PC361,  
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åñëè ïóò¸ì ïðîá è îøèáîê ñôîðìèðîâàëñÿ ñâîé âêóñ ôîíîøíîãî çâó÷àíèÿ, òî íåãîæå êàê áû îðèåíòèðîâàòüñÿ íà âêóñ ñîñåäà ïî êàìåðå èìõî. Íå ñëûøàë ðîëàíäû íî ÿìàõ ñåðèÿ CLP- ïîíðàâèëàñü ïî âñåì ïàðàìåòðàì(ñàì ùóïàë â øîïå). äåìîíñòðàøêè êà÷àéòå ñ þòóáà ïðè îòñóòñòâèè ìóçìàãàçèíîâ | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 06:03 |
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Yamaha PSR-323 , Yamaha DGX-640
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Ìóçûêàëüíûé âêóñ ó ìåíÿ äîâîëüíî òàêè êàïðèçíûé. Èç ìíîæåñòâî àêóñòè÷åñêèõ ïèàíèíî â ìóçûêàëüíîé øêîëå ÿ ïðåäïî÷èòàþ èãðàòü òîëüêî íà íåñêîëüêèõ .Ìóç ìàãàçèíû îòñóòñòâóþò ,à ñ þòóáîì áåäà . ß æèâó â Êèòàå . Çäåñü þòóá íå ðàáîòàåò , à äåìêè â íåòå íàéòè î÷åíü òðóäíî è êàê òî äåìêàì ÿ íå î÷åíü âåðþ. Ïî ìíå èäåàëüíûé ñïîñîá ñåñòü ïåðåä èíñòðóìåíòîì , ñàìîìó ïîèãðàòü êîìïîçèöèþ, è òîëüêî ñàì èçâëåêàÿ çâóêè ïîíèìàåøü òâîå ëè ýòî. Ïîýòîìó ñïðàøèâàþ ñîâåòû ëþäåé êîòîðûå ñàìè èãðàëè ñðàâíèâàëè ýòè èíñòðóìåíòû ñ àêóñòè÷åñêèì ïèàíèííîé èìåþò îïûò âûáîðà è âîîáùå îïûòà, êîòîðîãî ó ìåíÿ íåòó. Ïîñëå òîãî êàê áîëåå òî÷íî îïðåäåëþñü âàðèàíòàìè ñ ïîìîùüþ ôîðóì÷àí ,ïîåäó â äðóãîé ãîðîä ãäå åñòü ìóç ìàãàçèíû ñàì ïîèãðàþ è êóïëþ. Yamaha CLP 430/40 èëè 470/80 âû ïðîáîâàëè ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 06:30 |
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Yamaha CLP 430. äåìî çâó÷àíèÿ èíñòðóìåíòîâ áûâàþò åù¸ è íà îôèöèàëüíûõ ñàéòàõ ïðîèçâîäèòåëåé | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 06:55 |
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Yamaha CLP 430 èíòåðåñíûé âàðèàíò. Ñïàñèáî çà ïîìîùü. Äóìàþ, áóäåò ëó÷øå, ÷åì Yamaha P155 è êëàâèàòóðîé è çâóêîì. Ó íàñ Yamaha CLP 430 äîðîæå, ÷åì Yamaha P155 íî äåøåâëå ,÷åì Roland FP-4F. Èíòåðåñíî Roland FP-4F áóäåò ëó÷øå ? Ïî÷åìó Roland FP-4F äîðîæå? òîëüêî ÷òî ïîñìîòðåë ðîëèê. Ïî ìíå çâóê ñèíòåòèêè. Âèäåë ðîëèê ñ Yamaha S90ES . Ïî ìíå Yamaha S90ES çâó÷èò ðåàëèñòè÷íåå. Íî ïî ðîëèêàì òî÷íî íå ñêàæåøü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 07:26 |
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Yamaha CLP 430 -- åñëè â ðåàëå çâó÷èò òàê êàê íà ýòîì ðîëèêå òî ìíå íå ïîäõîäèò . Yamaha CLP 480- çâó÷èò ëó÷øå ÷åì 430 . Ìåíüøå ñèíòåòèêè , áîëüøå æèâîãî çâóêà, ìåñòàìè çàìåòèë ðåçîíàíñ ñòðóí ,çâóê ÷åò÷å , ñîáðàííåå , èìååò ãëóáèíó ,íî âñå ðàâíî íå çàìåíà àêóñòèêå. Roland RD700- , Ìóçûêà íå òà , íå ìîãó îöåíèòü , âîò åñëè áû èãðàëè êëàññèêó òî ïîíÿë áû ìîå ëè ýòî .Ñâîåîáðàçíûé çâóê ïèàíèíî , íî ïðèÿòíûé. Îïðåäåëåííî ëó÷øå, ÷åì Yamaha CLP 430 .. Äëÿ ñðàâíåíèÿ äàííûé çâóê äëÿ ìåíÿ î÷åíü äåðçêèé , ïðèÿòíûé è âîçìîæíî äàæå èäåàëüíûé -- |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 07:54 |
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Òåìà âñå åùå àêòóàëüíà. Yamaha CLP 480/470 ïîíðàâèëèñü. Íî ñëèøêîì áîëüøèå è òÿæåëûå . Ìíå áû æåëàòåëüíî èç òåõ ÷òî ìîæíî ïåðåíîñèòü ñ ñîáîé . ß æå íà Ðîäèíó òîæå âîçâðàùàþñü , à êàê æå íà Ðîäèíå áåç ìóçûêè òà. Ïðåäïî÷òåíèÿ îòäàþ Roland RD700SX, Yamaha S90ES, Yamaha CP300, Roland FP-7F , Roland FP-4F. Yamaha S90ES, Yamaha CP300 ñòîÿò ïî÷òè îäèíàêîâî , ïîýòîìó ÑÐ300 îòïàäàåò , òàê êàê S90ES ëó÷øå. Nord piano 2 ñëèøêîì äîðîãîå. Êàêèå åùå åñòü âàðèàíòû? ×òî áû âû âûáðàëè èç ïåðå÷èñëåííûõ è ïî÷åìó? |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 08:44 |
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>çâóê DGX-640 äëÿ ìåíÿ ñðàâíèì , êàê î÷åíü íåêà÷åñòâåííàÿ ñèìóëÿöèÿ ,íîòû çâó÷àò íå òàê è ìóçûêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íå òà . íåòó íîðìàëüíîãî çâóêà ó ÿìàõè ... íå âåðèòå? Yamaha CLP-440 Obviously looped, both visibly and audibly over the lows and mids. - Loop sample lengths are fairly short and static sounding. - Attack sample lengths are (C1:C8): 2.0,2.0,1.8,1.7,1.6,1.2,0.8,? seconds. - Loop sample lengths are (C1:C8): 0.8,0.8,0.5,0.5,0.5,?,?,? seconds. - Fairly stretched, visible over the entire range, audible over lows & mids. - Stretch distances: 3,3,4(x3),2,4,3(x3),2,3(x3),2(x4),3,1,3,3,4,2,2,3, 5,4,3,3 = 30 groups. - Visual velocity layer switch @ vel=90,114. - Somewhat audible velocity layer switch @ vel=114. Yamaha DGX-640 Obviously looped, both visibly and audibly over the lows and mids. - Loop sample lengths are fairly short and audible over the lows and mids. - Attack sample lengths are (C1:C8): 2.3,2.2,1.6,1.6,1.2,1.1,? seconds. - Loop sample lengths are (C1:C8): 0.7,0.5,0.5,0.45,?,0.3,? seconds. - Very stretched, visible over the entire range, audible over lows & mids. - Stretch distances: 2,3,3,6,3(x23),5 = 28 groups. - This is most likely a single layer sample set. âñå ñåìïëû ÿìàõ èç îäíîãî äåøåâîãî ôëàêîíà .... çû íà äàííûé ìîìåíò êîðã êðîíîñ èìååò ëó÷øèé çâóê ñðåäè öèôðîïüÿí 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 16:17 |
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>Roland FP-7F È òåìà áûëà, è ññûëêó äàâàë, íî âîò åù¸ ðàç: |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 18:56 |
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ó ìåíÿ åñòü 2 õîðîøèõ çàìåíèòåëÿ ïèàíèíî: 1. ENSONIQ KT-88 (ìîëîòî÷êîâàÿ êëàâèàòóðà 88 êë, îòë.ñîñò, ñäåëàíà ïîëíàÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêà) - 24900 ðóá (î í¸ì - ) 2. ALESIS QS8.1 (âòîðîå ïîêîëåíèå QS, 88 êëàâèø ñ ìîëîòêàìè, îòë.ñîñò) - 28900 ðóá Çâîíèòå: 8-926-21O5542, Ìèõàèë (ìîáèëüíûé â ìîñêâå, êðóãëîñóòî÷íî.) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2013 19:06 |
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>Roland FP-7F Îëåã, âû ðåêîìåíäóåòå Roland FP-7F , êàê íàèáîëåå ëó÷øàÿ çàìåíà ïèàíèíî? À êàê íàñ÷åò Roland RD700SX ? À òî ðàçíèöà â öåíå íå áîëüøàÿ , íî ôóíêöèîíàë Roland RD700SX áîëüøå. Ïî âàøåìó êàêèå ìèíóñó è ïëþñû ìåæäó ýòèìè äâóìÿ ìîäåëÿìè îòíîñèòåëüíî äðóã äðóãà ? Ñïàñèáî çà ïîìîùü . |
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Òåìà: Re: âñå ñåìïëû ÿìàõ èç îäíîãî äåøåâîãî ôëàêîíà ....
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2013 22:35 |
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Íèæíåêðàôòâåðêñê Òðè «ÿìàõè» ó îêíà 
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Íå ïîêóïàéòå äåø¸âûå ïîääåëêè – ïîêóïàéòå äîðîãèå. [Á] |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2013 22:51 |
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ãóãëîïåðåâîä  ïðèâåäåííîì íèæå ïðèìåðå âû óñëûøèòå ïÿòü ôðàç ñ ïåðâûì èç êîòîðûõ Kronos íåìåöêîì Ãðàí ïîñëåäóþùèì Roland Óëó÷øåííûé Ãðàíä. Îáà áûëè êîðìèòü èäåíòè÷íû MIDI ôàéë äàííûõ. Èñïîëüçîâàëèñü íàñòðîéêè ïî óìîë÷àíèþ íà îáîèõ. Ôðàçû áûëè ñûãðàíû âî âðåìÿ ïðîñëóøèâàíèÿ RD300GX. Âîò ìîè íàáëþäåíèÿ: Kronos çâó÷èò êàê âûñîêîå êà÷åñòâî çàïèñè / âûáîðêè ôîðòåïèàíî; Roland çâó÷èò êàê öèôðîâîå ïèàíèíî / ROMpler-ýòî çâó÷èò èñêóññòâåííî. Kronos äîëæíûì îáðàçîì ïðåðûâàåò ôðàçà äèíàìèêè; Roland íåò, è âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ êàê èìåþùèå ñæàòûé äèíàìè÷åñêèé äèàïàçîí (ïåðâûé è ïîñëåäíèé ôðàçû ëó÷øå âñåãî äëÿ ýòîé íàáëþäåíèå). Âî âòîðîì ïðèìåðå (îêàçûâàþòñÿ çâåçäû) Kronos äåëàåò çàìå÷àòåëüíóþ ðàáîòó âîñïðîèçâåäåíèÿ ýòèõ áîãàòûõ ãàðìîíèé; Roland çâó÷èò æåñòêî è ñðåäíåãî ñòðîéíûé. Ãàðìîíèè çâóêà ñìóùåí è íè÷åãî, íî áîãàòîé è êðàñèâîé. (ÈÌÎ, íåñïîñîáíîñòü ïðàâèëüíî âîñïðîèçâîäèòü áîëåå ñëîæíûå ãàðìîíèè â ýòîì äèàïàçîíå Àõèëëåñ èñöåëåíèå êàæäîãî öèôðîâîãî ïèàíèíî ÿ êîãäà-ëèáî èãðàë).  ïåðâîì è îñîáåííî ÷åòâåðòûé Íàïðèìåð, ìîæíî ÿñíî óñëûøàòü èñêóññòâåííûå îáðàçöû êîíâåðòîâ è ïåòëè íà Roland (î÷åíü ïëîõî â ÷åòâåðòîì ïðèìåðå). 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 01:49 |
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Ïîñëóøàë äåìêè íà îôôñàéòå Roland FP-7F è Roland RD700SX . Íà ïèàíèíî ÿ ðàçíèöû íå çàìåòèë. Ñêîðåå âñåãî ïèàíèíî ó íèõ ñîâåðøåííà îäèíàêîâàÿ , íà îäíèõ è òåõ æå äâèæêàõ , Roland RD700SX äîðîæå èç çà êîë-âî òåìáðîâ. Ýòî ñóäÿ ïî äåìêàì íà ñàéòå. Ìîæåò íà ïðàêòèêå ïî-äðóãîìó áóäåò. | |
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Òåìà: Re:Kronos çâó÷èò êàê âûñîêîå êà÷åñòâî çàïèñè / âûáîðêè ôîðòåïèàíî; Roland çâó÷èò êàê öèôðîâîå ïèàíèíî
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 01:56 |
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ýëåêòðîãóñëè , èìååòñÿ ââèäó KORG KRONOS X-88 ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 08:24 |
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>Ïîñëóøàë äåìêè íà îôôñàéòå Roland FP-7F è Roland RD700SX . Íà ïèàíèíî ÿ ðàçíèöû íå çàìåòèë. Ñêîðåå âñåãî ïèàíèíî ó íèõ ñîâåðøåííà îäèíàêîâàÿ , íà îäíèõ è òåõ æå äâèæêàõ , Roland RD700SX äîðîæå èç çà êîë-âî òåìáðîâ. Ýòî ñóäÿ ïî äåìêàì íà ñàéòå. Ìîæåò íà ïðàêòèêå ïî-äðóãîìó áóäåò. RD-700SX âûïóùåíî äî òîãî êàê ðîëàíä ñòàë ãîâîðèòü î super natural, íî â íåì åñòü íàñòðîéêè îòêðûòèÿ/çàêðûòèÿ êðûøêè ðîÿëÿ, íåñêîëüêî âàðèàíòîâ ðåçîíàíñà ñòðóí è íåñêîëüêî âàðèàíòîâ ñòðîÿ. Ìîæíî ïîèãðàòüñÿ ñ íàñòðîéêàìè åñëè èíòåðåñíî. Íî ñêîëüêî íè íàñòðàèâàé íà ðîÿëü âñå ðàâíî ïîõîæå íå áóäåò. Ïîòîìó ÷òî ÷òîáû áûëî ïîõîæå íóæíî ðîÿëü ïîñòàâèòü â çàãëóøåííóþ ñòóäèþ è ñíÿòü åãî çâóê ìèêðîôîíàìè è ñëóøàòü â íàóøíèêàõ èç äðóãîãî ïîìåùåíèÿ. Òîãäà áóäåò î÷åíü ïîõîæå. Âñå ðàâíî ó âàñ íå áóäåò îùóùåíèÿ ÷òî âû èãðàåòå íà íàñòîÿùåì ðîÿëå èëè ïèàíèíî à íå íà öèôðîâîì èíñòðóìåíòå. Óäà÷íîãî âûáîðà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 08:27 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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>http://thekronosblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/compari ng-sgx-1-to-roland-superior.htm...d-superior.html >ãóãëîïåðåâîä > ïðèâåäåííîì íèæå ïðèìåðå âû óñëûøèòå ïÿòü ôðàç ñ ïåðâûì èç êîòîðûõ Kronos íåìåöêîì Ãðàí ïîñëåäóþùèì Roland Óëó÷øåííûé Ãðàíä. Îáà áûëè êîðìèòü èäåíòè÷íû MIDI ôàéë äàííûõ. Èñïîëüçîâàëèñü íàñòðîéêè ïî óìîë÷àíèþ íà îáîèõ. Ôðàçû áûëè ñûãðàíû âî âðåìÿ ïðîñëóøèâàíèÿ RD300GX. >Âîò ìîè íàáëþäåíèÿ: >Kronos çâó÷èò êàê âûñîêîå êà÷åñòâî çàïèñè / âûáîðêè ôîðòåïèàíî; Roland çâó÷èò êàê öèôðîâîå ïèàíèíî / ROMpler-ýòî çâó÷èò èñêóññòâåííî. >Kronos äîëæíûì îáðàçîì ïðåðûâàåò ôðàçà äèíàìèêè; Roland íåò, è âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ êàê èìåþùèå ñæàòûé äèíàìè÷åñêèé äèàïàçîí (ïåðâûé è ïîñëåäíèé ôðàçû ëó÷øå âñåãî äëÿ ýòîé íàáëþäåíèå). >Âî âòîðîì ïðèìåðå (îêàçûâàþòñÿ çâåçäû) Kronos äåëàåò çàìå÷àòåëüíóþ ðàáîòó âîñïðîèçâåäåíèÿ ýòèõ áîãàòûõ ãàðìîíèé; Roland çâó÷èò æåñòêî è ñðåäíåãî ñòðîéíûé. Ãàðìîíèè çâóêà ñìóùåí è íè÷åãî, íî áîãàòîé è êðàñèâîé. (ÈÌÎ, íåñïîñîáíîñòü ïðàâèëüíî âîñïðîèçâîäèòü áîëåå ñëîæíûå ãàðìîíèè â ýòîì äèàïàçîíå Àõèëëåñ èñöåëåíèå êàæäîãî öèôðîâîãî ïèàíèíî ÿ êîãäà-ëèáî èãðàë). > ïåðâîì è îñîáåííî ÷åòâåðòûé Íàïðèìåð, ìîæíî ÿñíî óñëûøàòü èñêóññòâåííûå îáðàçöû êîíâåðòîâ è ïåòëè íà Roland (î÷åíü ïëîõî â ÷åòâåðòîì ïðèìåðå). >http://www.purgatorycreek.com/downloads/K-RComp.w av Johnny, la gente esta muy loca, What the f*ck!? |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 08:34 |
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ãäå-òî íà þãå àñàøàé Roland FP-10, CME XKey 37, Ibanez TMB100M, ROLI Lightpad Block, 
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>What the f*ck!? Øèçîôàçèÿ ó íåãî, íå îáðàùàé âèíìàíèÿ 
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Âñå, íàïèñàííîå â ýòîé êíèãå, ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ íåïðàâäîé...
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 08:49 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>ýëåêòðîãóñëè , èìååòñÿ ââèäó KORG KRONOS X-88 ? êðîíîñ áåç èêñ |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 09:15 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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1ìèí10ñåê êîðã , 1,20 ðîëàíä - ÷òî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ðîÿëü ? òî æå ìíå "ïåàíèñòû" , ìëÿ ! |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 10:20 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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>http://www.purgatorycreek.com/downloads/K-RComp.w av >1ìèí10ñåê êîðã , 1,20 ðîëàíä - ÷òî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ðîÿëü ? >òî æå ìíå "ïåàíèñòû" , ìëÿ ! Äà îäèíàêîâî âñå çâó÷èò - êàê ýêâàëàéçåð âûêðóòèøü - òàê è áóäåò. ß êîãäà íà ðîëàíäå èãðàë ìíå íå îäèí çâóêà÷ ãîâîðèë ÷òî ðîÿëü êëàññíûé òîëüêî â îáëàñòè 450-500 Ãö íóæíî ÷óòü âûðåçàòü. Êñòàòè îäèí ðàç â àðàíæèðîâêå ñäåëàííîé íà òðèòîíå ýêñòðèì çàìåíèëè íà RD-700SX çâóêè ðîÿëÿ (êîòîðûé ¹1) è áàñà ( chorus bass êàæåòñÿ ). È òîæå çâóêà÷ ðåçàë 450-500 Ãö, íî ñêàçàë ÷òî ðîÿëü â ðîëàíäå ëó÷øå ÷åì â ýêñòðèìå. Óæ íåçíàþ ÷òî òàì â ýêñòðèìå çà ðîÿëè íî êîðãè ìåíÿ íèêîãäà íå âäîõíîâëÿëè ïî ÷àñòè àêóñòè÷åñêèõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ. Õîòÿ àðàíæèðîâêè â äóõå áðèòíè ñïèðñ è áîéç áýíäîâ íà íèõ äåëàòü î÷åíü õîðîøî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. Ó ìåëàäçå òàê ãîëèìûé êîðã âñþ äîðîãó è íîðìàëüíî , ó Ëåïñà òîæå ìåñòàìè
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 10:30 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>Äà îäèíàêîâî âñå çâó÷èò - êàê ýêâàëàéçåð âûêðóòèøü - òàê è áóäåò. >Óæ íåçíàþ ÷òî òàì â ýêñòðèìå çà ðîÿëè íî êîðãè ìåíÿ íèêîãäà ìäààà ....â ýêñòðèìå 16ìá ðîÿëü .... â êðîíîñå áåñïðåöåäåíòíûé äëÿ æåëåçÿê ïÿòèãèãîâûé ñòåéíâåé ñ åñòåñòâåííûì áåçëóïîâûì çàòóõàíèåì è ïåðåëèâîì îáåðòîíîâ ... â ðîëàíäå çàêîëüöîâàííûé æóææàùèé ëóï ... íåóæåëè íå ñëûøíî ? .... íó äà ëàäíî, íåêîòîðûì è p95 - ïèàíèíà
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Òåìà: Re: â ðîëàíäå çàêîëüöîâàííûé æóææàùèé ëóï ...
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 10:35 |
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Íèæíåêðàôòâåðêñê Òðè «ÿìàõè» ó îêíà
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"Êîðã" åù¸ ñ 60-õ ãîäîâ çàìåíèë íàñòîÿùèå îðãàííûå òðóáû íà ýëåêòðèêó, äà âäîáàâîê íà îáðåçàííóþ, 110-âîëüòîâóþ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: íåóæåëè íå ñëûøíî ?
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 10:42 |
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Íèæíåêðàôòâåðêñê Òðè «ÿìàõè» ó îêíà
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Ò¸ïëûé Ëàìïîâûé Çâóê òàêîé ò¸ïëûé, ÷òî äàæå ìÿãêèé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 10:46 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>Ò¸ïëûé Ëàìïîâûé Çâóê òàêîé ò¸ïëûé, ÷òî äàæå ìÿãêèé. Âîò êàê ÒÑ îõàðàêòåðèçîâàë ïñðêó - çâóê DGX-640 äëÿ ìåíÿ ñðàâíèì , êàê î÷åíü íåêà÷åñòâåííàÿ ñèìóëÿöèÿ ,íîòû çâó÷àò íå òàê è ìóçûêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íå òà . çíà÷èò - óÕè íà ìåñòå )
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Òåìà: Re: íîòû çâó÷àò íå òàê è ìóçûêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íå òà
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 11:05 |
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Íèæíåêðàôòâåðêñê Òðè «ÿìàõè» ó îêíà
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Íåïðàâèëüíûå ï÷¸ëû. Ïÿòà÷îê, ñòðåëÿé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 11:25 |
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«Think Different»
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>Íåïðàâèëüíûå ï÷¸ëû.Ïÿòà÷îê, ñòðåëÿé. )) -Êîíå÷íî,Âèííè,ýòî æå ìóõè! |
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Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 11:28 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>-Êîíå÷íî,Âèííè,ýòî æå ìóõè! òî÷íî! ýòî ææææææææææ â ðîëàíäå è â ÿìàõå íåñïðîñòà íåôèã ýêîíîìèòü êîïåéêè íà ïàìÿòü äëÿ ñåìïëîâ
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 11:40 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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íà 1ìèí10ñåê êîðã , íà 1,20 ðîëàíä - ÷òî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ðîÿëü ? ìíå âñå æå èíòåðåñíî ìíåíèå TC, ò.ê ñ êîëëåêòèâíûì ìíåíèåì çäåøíåãî ïëàíêòîíà ÿ ñëèøêîì õîðîøî çíàêîì))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 11:42 |
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>>-Êîíå÷íî,Âèííè,ýòî æå ìóõè! >òî÷íî! ýòî ææææææææææ â ðîëàíäå è â ÿìàõå íåñïðîñòà Ðàñïèàðèëè ãàçåòû áóëüâàðíûå ìóõå-ÿìàøêå,ïðåëåñòè ñëîíèêà-êîðæà Âûøëà ìóõà-ÿìàøêà çàìóæ çà ñëîíà-êîðãà. À ñëîíèê-êîðæèê âçÿë è óìåð íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü. Ìóõà-ÿìàõà ïëà÷åò,à äðóçüÿ-ðîëàíäû/êóðöû/íîðäû óñïîêàèâàþò - ÷åãî ïëàêàòü òî?Æèëè òî Âû âñåãî îäèí äåíü? À ìóõå-ÿìàøêà ñëåçàìè óëèâàåòñÿ: àõà...æèëè òî äåíü,à çàêàïûâàòü òåïåðü ìíå ñëîíèêà-êîðæèêà âñþ æèçíü  Íå ïëà÷ü ìóõà-ÿìàøêà...ïîìîæåì...åãî,âèðòóàëüíîãî,ìû íà ñêîðîå âèðòóàëüíîå êëàäáèùå....)) |
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Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 11:49 |
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>ò.ê ñ êîëëåêòèâíûì ìíåíèåì çäåøíåãî ïëàíêòîíà ÿ ñëèøêîì õîðîøî çíàêîì))) Êîãäà íà âåñü êîëëåêòèâ,òî ýòî óæå "ïåðåõîä ãðàíè". Çà ýòî ãîíÿò ñ ôîðóìà. Ñèè ñëîâà ìîè ñåðü¸çíû. Ãîâîðè äà íå çàãîâàðèâàéñÿ,ýëåêòðîâåíèê. |
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Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 12:15 |
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à òû ñåáÿ íå îòîæäåñòâëÿé ñ êîëëåêòèâîì! çäåñü åñòü ìûñëÿùèå ãðàìîòíûå ëþäè .... à êîëëåêòèâíîñòü ìíåíèÿ ïðîÿìàõîâñêîãî ïëàíêòîíà âûãëÿäèò òàê : ÊÎÐÃ??? ÍÅ ×ÈÒÀË, ÍÎ ÎÑÓÆÄÀÞ! )
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
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Íå âèëÿé,è íå þëè... Ïîõîæå ñòðóñèë,"ìûñëÿùèé" îäíîé êîðãîìûñëüþ. Çà ñëîâà ñâîè îòâå÷àé,ïèîíåð..... |
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Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 12:26 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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íå áóäó þëèòü - òû íå îòíîñèøüñÿ ê êàòåãîðèè ìûñëÿùèõ ãðàìîòíûõ ëþäåé .... ) | |
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Íèæíåêðàôòâåðêñê Òðè «ÿìàõè» ó îêíà
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Ñåíÿ, íåáûäëî – ýòî íåàêòóàëüíî. "Îñòðîâ íåïëàíêòîíà"! Áà-áà-áà-áà-áà, áà, áà-áà, áà, Çàáàçà-áàçàáà-çàáàçà-áàçàáà, Îéå, áè÷å-âàó-å! |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
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"Ñåíå" áû ê ìóçîïàòîëîãó....ãîâîðÿò òàêîé âðà÷ ïîÿâèëñÿ,äëÿ òåõ êòî îò "çàóæåííîñòè" çàãóäåë...)) | |
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Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2013 15:47 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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>http://www.purgatorycreek.com/downloads/K-RComp.w av >íà 1ìèí10ñåê êîðã , íà 1,20 ðîëàíä - ÷òî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ðîÿëü ? >ìíå âñå æå èíòåðåñíî ìíåíèå TC, >ò.ê ñ êîëëåêòèâíûì ìíåíèåì çäåøíåãî ïëàíêòîíà ÿ ñëèøêîì õîðîøî çíàêîì))) Òû âîîáùå äóìàåøü êòî òû? Ïðèíöåññà? |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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ïðèíöåññà, òâîå ìíåíèå ÿ çíàþ .... òåïåðü õî÷ó ïîñëóøàòü òñ ôëóäèòü òîëüêî ïîñëå åãî îòâåòà
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Yamaha PSR-323 , Yamaha DGX-640
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íà 1ìèí10ñåê êîðã , íà 1,20 ðîëàíä - ÷òî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà ðîÿëü ? ìíå âñå æå èíòåðåñíî ìíåíèå TC, ïðèíöåññà, òâîå ìíåíèå ÿ çíàþ .... òåïåðü õî÷ó ïîñëóøàòü òñ ôëóäèòü òîëüêî ïîñëå åãî îòâåòà Èçâèíÿþñü ÷òî çàñòàâèë äîëãî æäàòü ìîåãî îòâåòà.  ïðîìåæóòêå íà êîðã (01:07-01:15) ðîëàíä (01:20-01:30) ðîëàíä çâó÷èò çàìåòíî ëó÷øå. Çâóê áîëåå âçðîñëûé , äîðîãîé, ðåàëèñòè÷åí , ïðèÿòåí íà ñëóõ. Ñëóøàÿ ìîæíî ñäåëàòü âûâîä ÷òî êîðã áîëåå äåøåâîå óñòðîéñòâî è çâó÷èò äåøåâëå. Ïîñëå 01:30 Ðîëàíä çâó÷èò ýëåêòðîííî , ìåíåå âûðàçèòåëüíî, ìåíåå åñòåñòâåííî. ñèëüíî çàìåòåí ýëåêòðè÷åñêèé çâóê. Òóò óæå êîðã âûèãðûâàåò ó ðîëàíäà. Êîíå÷íî ýòî íà ìîé ñëóõ. Âîîáùå ÿ ÇÀÌÅÒÈÒÜ òàêóþ âåùü . Ýëåêòðîííûé çàìåíèòåëè èíñòðóìåíòîâ , áóäü ýòî ñèíòåçàòîð , èëè öèôðîâîå ïèàíèíî , áîëåå ìåíåå íîðìàëüíî çâó÷àò íà ñðåäíèõ ÷àñòîòàõ. Ïðîáëåìû íà÷èíàþòñÿ íà íèçêèõ è âûñîêèõ ÷àñòîòàõ. Óñòðîéñòâà èç äåøåâîé öåíîâîé êàòåãîðèè ïëîõî çâó÷èò è íà íèçêèõ è íà âåðõíèõ , óñòðîéñòâà ñðåäíåé öåíîâîé êàòåãîðèè óäîâëåòâîðèòåëüíî çâó÷èò íà ñðåäíèõ íî ïðîáëåìû èëè ñ íèçêèìè èëè ñ âûñîêèìè. Èç äîðîãîé êàòåãîðèè õîðîøî íà ñðåäíèõ è ñ õàðàêòåðîì òî íà íèçêèõ òî íà âûñîêèõ . Îïèøóñü ïðî ñâîé Yamaha DGX640. Çâó÷àíèå íà ñðåäíèõ è íèçêèõ ÷àñòîòàõ ñîéäåò è äàæå óäîâëåòâîðèòåëüíî äëÿ ñâîåé öåíîâîé êàòåãîðèè .Ãîäèòñÿ äëÿ ïåðâîãî èíñòðóìåíòà äëÿ îáó÷åíèÿ , åñëè áû âñþ êàðòèíó íå ïîðòèëè íèçêèå. Òóò ñòîèò ãóë. Ðåàëüíûé ãóë. Íàæèìàÿ íåæíî íà êëàâèøè âû ïîëó÷àåòå â ïîëíåå ïðèåìëåìûå ìóòíûå íîòû ñ ãóëîì â êîíöå . Êàðòèíà âûãëÿäèò òàê: Äîãóë Ðåãóë Ìèãóë Ôàãóë . Åñëè æå íàæàòü íà êëàâèøè ÷óòü ñèëüíåå òî : Äãóëëë Ðãóëëë Ôãóëëë Ìãóëëë. Åñëè åùå ñèëüíåå äÃóëëëë ðÃóëëë ìÃóëëë ÄÓì äóì òàê òóê ñòóêè ïî ÿìàõà êóëàêàìè, ìàò â âèäå ïåíèÿ , ÿïîíñêîå ä ðìî è èñïîð÷åííûå íåðâû è îñêîðáëåííûé ñëóõ .Ìîæíî çàìåòíî óëó÷øèòü çâóê , åñëè ñëóøàòü ÷åðåç íàóøíèêè ,à íå ÷åðåç âñòðîåííóþ àêóñòèêó . Ãóëà ñòàíîâèòñÿ ìåíüøå. Ñ Sennheiser HD202 çâóê íîðìàëüíûé, íåéòðàëüíûé , ìåíüøå ãóäèò ,íî âñå ðàâíî ãóäèò. Ñ Westone UM3rc çâóê íåæíåå, ãóëà åùå ìåíüøå , íî òóò ïîëó÷àåì ñûðûå íåêà÷åñòâåííûå çâóêè , ïîëó÷àåì ñèëüíî âûðàæåííûå íå òî÷íûå íîòû. Òàê êàê àðìàòóðíûå íàóøíèêè áîëåå äåòàëüíî ïåðåäàþò çâóê è ïîêàçûâàþò îãðåõè .  òàêîé âàðèàöèè Yamaha DGX640 íèêîìó íå ðåêîìåíäóþ. Òàê êàê ïîêóïêó åãî âèæó íåöåëåñîîáðàçíûì . Äëÿ ó÷åáû îí áûñòðî íàäîåñò, à ñî ìíîé âîîáùå ñ ïåðâûõ äíåé íå ïðèæèëñÿ. Èãðàòü íà íåì íóæíî íåæíî , íå íàæèìàòü íà êëàâèøè àãðåññèâíî è áûñòðî , â ÷åì êàæåòñÿ è åñòü çàñëóãà êëàâèàòóðû GHS. Êàæåòñÿ ÷òî îí ìåíåå ñòóïåí÷àòûé ,ìåíåå ÷óâñòâèòåëåí . Íàæèìàåøü è âäðóã ðåçêîå óâåëè÷åíèå óñèëèÿ è ãóë . Åãî ìîæíî êóïèòü äëÿ ó÷åáû òîëüêî â òîì ñëó÷àè åñëè âû íå óâåðåíû ÷òî æåëàíèå èãðàòü ó âàñ íà äîëãî è âû âîçìîæíî ñêîðî çàáðîñèòå .  ïðîòèâíîì ñëó÷àè äàííûé èíñòðóìåíò èñïîðòèòü âêóñ ðåáåíêà. Èãðàÿ íà íåì ÿ ÷àñòî îñòàíàâëèâàþñü « ÷òî ýòî áûëî? ß íå òóäà íàæàë? À íåò , ýòî ïðîñòî 640 òàê çâó÷èò» ( òîëüêî íà íèçêèõ) èíûìè ñëîâàìè 640 ôàëüøèâèò . Èãðàòü íà íåì ñòðàñòíî ñ àãðåññèåé íè êàê íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ . Ìîé ïîñò ìîå ñóáúåêòèâíî ëè÷íîå ìíåíèå , îñíîâûâàåòñÿ íà ìîé âêóñ íà ìîé ñëóõ è ïðåäïî÷òåíèÿ. ß íè êîåì îáðàçîì íå õî÷ó çàäåòü ÷üè òî ÷óâñòâà, à òî ÷óâñòâóåòñÿ ïîÿâèòñÿ òîâàðèù ñêîðî è áóäåò ãîâîðèòü ÷òî íà ìîå óõî ñëîí íàñòóïèë è ÿìàõà 640 çâó÷èò ëó÷øå ÷åì ïèàíèíî â ìóç øêîëå..( ) Íî åñëè âûáèðàòü ñëóøàÿ âûøå ïðåäñòàâëåííóþ äåìêó ðîëàíäà è êîðãà ÿ áû âûáðàë êîãð. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàìåíà ïèàíèíî. Roland RD700, Yamaha S90ES, Roland FP-7F ,Roland FP-4F, Yamaha CLP-340/440 ,Yamaha P155
Âðåìÿ: 25.06.2013 00:03 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>Volod123 ñïàñèáî çà àðãóìåíòèðîâàííîå ÑÂÎÅ ìíåíèå .... |
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