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Время: 22.08.2005 08:46
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)

but ( as you can see...) there is NOT much room there for the lettering...

Perhaps you might consider dropping the word "custom" -  so i can make the other letters a bit bolder?

(I think its more or less OBVIOUS that the guitar is "Custom"...)  :)


here is another possibility ( a bit more dramatic) :

logoMOCKUP2.jpg
     
Время: 22.08.2005 10:47
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Michael, as usual, your suggestion is better than my idea :)

I really like your second version. Let's go with that, ok? Thanks.

     
Время: 22.08.2005 14:04
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Ok, second one it is... :)
     
Время: 23.08.2005 11:29
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
I heard from Michael that the EMG 85/81 pair has arrived at the shop. They will be direct mounted to the neck/body wood, so no "pickup rings" will be used. Just the black EMGs in a white body.

I can almost see it now...

     
Время: 23.08.2005 19:31
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Michael, any progress lately?
     
Время: 24.08.2005 00:35
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
today, your guitar was out in the PAINT SHOP.. i hope to have some new pics on FRIDAY :)
     
Время: 24.08.2005 01:24
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Wow, moving right along! :)

I thought the inlay work on the neck was always done before the body and neck were painted. Does it make a difference what order they are done in?

     
Время: 25.08.2005 19:51
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Uh, you didn't forget the inlays, did you :D

Just kidding. I can't wait to see the updated photos.

     
Время: 25.08.2005 20:32
Автор: phil scanlan
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Ah yes bill, direct mounting pickups is a lovely choice ;). Im getting it done on my 'scanlan custom' 3 emg's direct mounted, but im getting shamray to ship the metallica bezels in the guitar case, in case i change my mind or whatever. Cant wait to see some newer pics. Take it easy.
     
Время: 25.08.2005 21:48
Автор: Nimrod Roemersma
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
phil, do you have emg's in other guitars of yours? where i live,
there are almost no guitars with emg's to check out.... so i am
curious how they sound. those overproduced records of zakk
wylde are a louzy comparison. thats why....

     
Время: 26.08.2005 00:55
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Nimrod - goed om u te zien (of horen)!

I have EMGs in my PRS singlecut. They have many great characteristics, but one of the advantages is they are very QUIET. At the same time, when overdriven, they can create some really great, controllable feedback. I play a mix of blues rock and metallica/creed sounds (no nu metal) and they work great for me.

And you are right. ZW is a rather one dimensional example of the range of a pair of 85/81s.

     
Время: 26.08.2005 01:11
Автор: Nimrod Roemersma
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
@ Bill:

this topic is one of the few i very frequently visit. i like the idea
of this guitar. perhaps i am gonna use it for a project of my own.

back to pickups:

for bluesrock I have a VERY nice strat, and on my amp that thing
is very much like the brian may sound. but my les paul...it has a
lack of so many things. the overall feel is great, but the sound of
the pickups sucks.

i want the pickups to have this:

they MUST pick up pinch harmonics PERFECTLY. i know i can
play them well, cause on other guitars, including the strat, i get
great results.

i want them to have a really meaty sound, with a lot of balls.
they have to be mindblowing

and yeah, sometimes they have to have a nice clean sound for
some songs. but thats not priority number one...


are those pickups EMG's?

     
Время: 26.08.2005 01:13
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Phil,

I won't buy another guitar unless it has direct mounted pickups. I don't know why they aren't all made that way. The difference to me is noticeable.

I checked out your Scanlan Custom thread again - that guitar is looking GOOD! I can't wait to see it once it has the lacquer finish on it. Congrats, man.

     
Время: 26.08.2005 07:37
Автор: phil scanlan
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Nimrod, i have EMGs in every other guitar i have. I have a Dean ML Phantom setneck, 81/60 combo, the 60 is great for clean tones obviously, and the 81 for me produces the right amount of bite, balls and clean distortion. Like its an articulate pickup. People will comment on its lack of dynamics, however i believe all high output pickups have a lack of dynamics in relation to your picking style. But this is only noticable when using your crunch channel. When you switch to your clean and start picking really lightly it has all the dynamics you need, incredible. EMG's arent for all, but for me in my current area of playing (hard rock, metal etc) they work. Even when i roll my gain down considerably on my crunch channel and up the volume, switch to the 60, its such a smooth bluesy sound, most people who use emg's only really use them for their high output characteristics. My other guitars, two dimebag darrell washburn signatures have the 89/81 combo, the different woods certainly present a different tone (contrary to popular belief that emg's kill all wood tones) Emgs do sound alike, but your woods do make the difference. My Dean has mahogany everything, set neck, rosewood board. Where my washburns are alder bodies, maple tops, maple necks and rosewood board. The washburns have a sorta girthier, smooth, round distortion, where my mahogany dean has a sharp but dark crunch. Its a cool comparison.

Bill thanks for the kind words, i truly cant wait for my guitar, as im sure you cant either.

     
Время: 26.08.2005 13:24
Автор: Nimrod Roemersma
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
phil, thanks for the review. i will have to think hard on which
pickup i will use.... afterall, my les paul is quite old.....and to
open and close it once a year to change the battery wont do
much good to the wood i guess....

     
Время: 27.08.2005 05:31
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Update photos are in. After a quick bath in the sealer shed, this bird is moving right along.
CS-1989_16.jpg
CS-1989_15.jpg
CS-1989_14.jpg
     
Время: 27.08.2005 06:05
Автор: Steven C. Hill
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Nimrod I had EMG 81's in my Navigator Japan Custom Les Paul and I loved them.  They could crank out really great distortion, and awesome clean tones.  I put Lindy Fralins in the guitar and didn't like them so I put back the EMG's. 
Talk about long Tennon Bill.  Bigger than Long John Silver and John Holmes.  A little porn humor.  Guitar will be interesting with all alder Bill.

     
Время: 27.08.2005 16:33
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
A little misunderstanding with the knob locations, but Mr. Shamray is making it right. You couldn't ask for better customer service than this! Way to go :)

Shamray is the best! That includes Michael, too :D

     
Время: 28.08.2005 01:52
Автор: Nimrod Roemersma
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
1: i really like this guitar!! its becoming very interesing and
looking great. what are the specs for the neck?

2; i have decided on my pickups for my own les paul
guys....they're gonna be evolution pickups.

anyway, thanks for all the input guys! but i played on the zakk
wylde sig, and emg's aren't quite for me...

     
Время: 28.08.2005 06:13
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Nimrod, here are the specs:

Neck Measurement: 1st fret - 22 mm; 12th - 24.4 mm; D-shaped - like modern Fender, modern (post-60) Gibsons.

Regarding the EMGs, you have given them the only real test that matters, and that is your ears. I just hope you were playing them through a good amp to get a really good feel for them. Oh well, different strokes for different folks ;)

     
Время: 30.09.2005 09:13
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Any updates?
     
Время: 06.10.2005 01:34
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
STATUS REPORT: it will be under lacquer next week, and should be ready for completing in about 2 weeks...
     
Время: 06.10.2005 10:31
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Welcome back, Michael. I hope you enjoyed some well-deserved time off!
     
Время: 06.10.2005 18:21
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
The Bird of Prey is again in flight! Here are the new body photos. I am told the inlay work is near completion, so I am very excited to see those photos as well!
CS-1989_21.jpg
CS-1989_20.jpg
CS-1989_19.jpg
CS-1989_18.jpg
     
Время: 15.10.2005 13:19
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
The photo says it all...

That's right, it says piezo :)

CS-1989_3038.JPG
     
Время: 16.10.2005 19:50
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Well, maybe a little more explanation is needed :)

I have a sudden need for a piezo pickup on this guitar, and Michael has helped me order a Graphtech GHOST piezo pickup and preamp (I'm glad we caught it in time).

After a little more routing, the guitar should be back on schedule!

     
Время: 10.11.2005 22:54
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Good news: your piezo system arrived today - i shall deliver it to the shop tomorrow morning!
     
Время: 11.11.2005 20:27
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Great! I can't wait for the piezo on this awesome guitar.

fwiw, I'll post the GHOST:

CS-1989_3556.JPG
     
Время: 17.11.2005 17:06
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Work is proceeding... it will be in the finishing room by middle of next week, so expect some NEW PICS by the end of next week!
     
Время: 17.11.2005 18:04
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Good to hear! I can't wait to see some more pictures :)
     
Время: 22.11.2005 01:14
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
STATUS UPDATE: "Strange Days, Indeed"... your crafter abruptly RESIGNED his position, and has gone off to live in an Ashram in India.

Work will resume in a day or two while we pass the guitar along to your NEW crafter Vadim (who has a couple of other projects he needs to get off his bench)

Estimated Shipping date is January 14th (the entire country is CLOSED for holidays from Dec 31st to January 9th!)

     
Время: 22.11.2005 07:22
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Wow, Michael, that's weird.

Any photos available?

     
Время: 29.11.2005 18:32
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Michael,

With all the discussion about cases (or lack thereof), I wanted to ask: is the case for CS-1989 in the shop already?

     
Время: 30.11.2005 00:00
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
I don't know... Stepanov hasnt given me any information on that. I will ask about that when i visit the shop tommorrow!
     
Время: 15.12.2005 07:27
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Any updates?
     
Время: 15.12.2005 15:44
Автор: Michael_Walker

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
No news... hopefully i will see some progress on FRIDAY
     
Время: 31.01.2006 21:13
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
The Bird of Prey is back in production! A few photos of its current status...
up the neck.jpg
neck and body.jpg
     
Время: 31.01.2006 21:17
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
And here's my crude drawing for the 1st fret inlay. Let's hope the actual inlay turns out nicer than my bad artwork!
1st Fret design - CS-1989.jpg
     
Время: 01.02.2006 01:10
Автор: patrick
Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
good news ! And artwork aint half bad either ;)
     
Время: 01.02.2006 10:16
Автор: Виолетта

Тема: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Thanks, Patrick. I can't wait to see the abalone inlays on this guitar.
     
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