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Òåìà: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (Alaska, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2005 01:45 |
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Congratulations Bill, on the birth of your new Shamray Custom Shop instrument (serial number CS 1989)! For the curious, here are the specs on CS 1989: Detailed specification of Guitar: CS-1989 ‘BIRD OF PREY” for Bill Nyfeler
Basic Design of Guitar: “Singlecut”-style body, bolt-on neck + carved topMaterial for neck: Maple – neck mounted with individual bezels (no plate)Neck features: 1960 slim-taper neck profile - ‘all-access’ heel contour. 'PRS' headstock shape.Material for fretboard: ROSEWOOD, 24 FRETS, 12 inch fretboard radius. 24.75” Scale LengthFrets: Sintoms "6100" (medium tall, AKA "Jumbo")Nut: 43 mm nut width, Petrified Wooley Mammoth ivoryFret markers: Abalone "birds" Fretboard binding: fretboard only (black plastic)Truss rod cover: black plastic, PRS style Side markers: plastic dotsLogo: Shamray logo painted in black PRS-style scriptBody wood: AlderTop wood: AlderBody binding: no body bindingOutput jack mounting: Standard: on jack plate Finish: entire guitar Gloss white “as white as possible” – including back of neck & headstockHeadstock Overlay: matching top finish (white)Strings: 010 - 046 Machine heads: Grover auto-locking (black) 3+3Bridge: Gotoh tune-o-matic set (black)Strap buttons: black (set of 2) Jack plate: rectangular black (side of body)Body shielding: 100% ShieldedNeck pickup: EMG 85 (direct mounted, no bezels) Bridge pickup: EMG 81 (direct mounted, no bezels)Selector switch: Dimarzio 3-way toggle (upper bout)Output jack: EMGPots: EMG (master vol + master tone)EXTRAS: EMG PA-2 booster preamp with mini-switchKnobs: black metallic (2 pieces)Batteries: DUAL 9V alkaline, installed inside control cavityCase: standard molded flight case ** CLIENT WILL SUPPLY THE PICKUPS ONLY |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2005 02:02 |
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ah. this should be an interesting one! lookin forward to see the construction |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2005 01:22 |
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Yeah, nice specs, but again this boring birds ... what about some butterflyes? 
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2005 07:36 |
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Sorry, no butterflies. But I think this guitar will be able to fly when it's done! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 24.07.2005 08:26 |
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SPEC UPDATE: name inlay @12th fret DROPPED - Abalone bird inlays only! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 24.07.2005 10:49 |
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Yes, your exquisite abalone birds, like those on CS-0055, are just what this guitar needs. I can't wait to see that inlay work on this guitar. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 26.07.2005 21:44 |
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Status update: we expect that work will get underway the first week of August (next week!) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2005 08:58 |
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The EMG 85/81 pickup set just arrived here. I'm sending them tomorrow (July 30) to Michael. I wonder how long it will take them to cross the pond... 
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2005 15:42 |
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have you considered the 18 volt hookup for the EMG's?? ive heard nothing but positive stuff about it! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2005 19:57 |
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I've been tossing that exact idea around for the past week. Thanks for the input lennart - I'll ask Michael about the possibility. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 31.07.2005 07:13 |
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ive heard that it only makes a worth while difference with basses, 'specially 5 string ones. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2005 01:25 |
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The difference is noticeable going from 9v to 18v, even on guitar. But it's even more remarkable on bass pickups. However, even EMG says the jump from 18v to 27v (the maximum) is negligible. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2005 14:24 |
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what kind of difference in sound would you get when you go from 9v to 18v? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 01.08.2005 16:43 |
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from what i noticed when i went from 9v to 18v in my ibanez it became a sharper more attacking sound on my EMG 81 and the 85 never seemed to change to much but i never used it that much before the mod anyway, im not great at describing tone but im going with a 9v setup on my custom to have a change in tone and also the mahogany should make a smoother guitar as a whole. sorry if this makes no sence but im not the most descriptive of people |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 08.08.2005 09:35 |
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Nice description, Gary. Thanks for the insight. I am dropping the separate battery boxes (batteries will be in the control cavity), so that I won't lose so much body wood to the router. With the 18v EMG setup, the batteries should last a long time, so there is no real need for a quick access battery box. Work should commence this week, as I understand. I've got my fingers crossed! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 15.08.2005 11:54 |
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Some modifications made to the neck profile. Thanks to Michael for making the process smooth and educational (as always)! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 10:01 |
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BOOM! Here comes the Bird of Prey, virtually out of nowhere... Last week, we weren't quite sure when construction would start. This week, the guitar's almost done! Wow! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 10:04 |
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...and here's the neck. Just got those spec changes made in time... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 10:09 |
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Who needs a nasty Gibson or PRS neck heel when you can have the bliss of a contoured neck like this? Nice work, Kazantcev. I'll need that extra room to reach the 24th fret on this beast. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 10:12 |
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It's taking shape nicely here. I can't wait to see the inlay work. | ||
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 17:56 |
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do you want a fixed bridge or a trem? imo, this guitar is SCREAMING for a floyd rose... :P |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 19:49 |
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Tune-O-Matic bridge for this bird. I didn't want the additional routing required for a Floyd Rose done to this guitar. Besides, I've already got a FR on my RR flying V. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 19:56 |
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Volgens mij Nimrod, de Floyd Rose zit er niet goed uit op en Les Paul of Singlecut guitar. Aleen mijn opinie (het spijt me - lange tijd sinds dat ik Nederlands gesprecht hep!) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 20:24 |
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And here's a close-up of the fingerboard. Very nice... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2005 23:15 |
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did you think of a wraparound bridge more PReSque which would require even less holes.... and [my opinion only] looks better |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2005 03:52 |
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nice fingerboard aswell... @ Bill: dude; did you say that in dutch?? i am reading that at 2 am, and quite stunned! ok, i understand what you mean...sometimes its indeed ugly, sometimes very cool. on a PRS singlecut it looks cool. oh, by the way; its " gesproken" not" gesprecht". the latter is german. but two thumbs up on your dutch! (bit offtopic; how did you get to learn it?) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2005 05:53 |
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Gary, I agree that the PRS wraparound bridge is more clean looking, but you can't intonate the guitar accurately enough with their static design, in my opinion. It's pretty close, but I notice the difference. I know they are also now making wraparound tune-o-matics, but I don't think they stay in tune as well as a 2 piece bridge/tailpiece does. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2005 06:09 |
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Nimrod, Daar hebt u veel gelijk in - het was veel te laat als it dat geschreven hep ook. Ik hep de verkeerde tense ook gemerkt (gesproken). Bedankt voor de opmerking! Ik wonde in Nederland voor en paar jaaren (maar dat was 13 jaar geleden!). Ik leerde Nederlands voor 6 maanden vordat ik naar Nederland ging. Ik kan het een beetje spreken, maar om 't te schriven is veel moelijker, vind ik. Ik heb niet de gelegenheid om 't veel te spreken, maar ik heb u naam gezien, en proberde 't nog to spreken. Maakelijker om te spreken, dan om to schriven! Ook, weet ik wat "Bill/Bil" in Nederlands betekend. Toen ik in Nederland was, roept eidereen mij "Willem" (ha ha) Ik heb in Nunspeet gewonden. Waar komt u vandaan? Translation: my Dutch is pretty rusty. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2005 14:46 |
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ah, no, its quite nice actually. better than most people here actually. well, bill comes from william, and the dutch version of william is....willem :P I am from the hague...(in dutch: den haag) and just for fun: hep=heb gewonden=gewoond (gewonden is something like, the woonded, or past tense of winden, which means: winding). but thats just nitpicking, your dutch is overall quite good may I ask why you were in holland? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 20.08.2005 10:36 |
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Michael, I am wondering about the knots on the top piece of the body. I know this will be an opaque finish, but how does the crafter smooth out a wood knot to prep it for such a fine finish? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 20.08.2005 12:35 |
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the 'knots' in our russian alder are 'pigmentation' only, they are integral to the wood and dont present any difficulties in finishing... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 21.08.2005 03:52 |
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Ok Michael, thanks for clarifying. I couldn't really tell from the pictures how extensive the knots were. I was just wondering how you would go about filling in a knot so it would be smooth before finishing. Looks like you don't have to worry about that! One technical question: for an opaque-colored guitar, why do you bother putting a top on it? Wouldn't it be easier to just start with a thicker piece of wood, and then carve and finish it? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 21.08.2005 18:13 |
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if you're looking for better tuning stability, how about TonePros Locking Bridge and Locking Tuners... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 21.08.2005 21:33 |
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a separate top is frequently used when a thicker piece of wood is not readily available! About tuning stability: Locking tuners can 'help', but if you arent lazy, you can achieve the exact same effect with 'normal' tuners, just by using the "inside-outside-pinch-lock" method of stringing ( which locks the string before there is one full wrap around the post). BTW, Tonepros hardware actually does not do ANYTHING 'to improve tuning stability'... the only thing i can recommend it for is that your bridge and tailpiece wont fall off when you change all the strings. Everything else that is 'claimed for it' is SHEER HYPE - Tonepros is nothing more than regular Gotoh hardware that has a couple holes drilled in it! We have installed lots of it here ( in fact, i even have a Tonepros locking bridge and tailpiece on one of my OWN guitars) and the truth is - it doesnt do anything 'magical'...  |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 21.08.2005 23:18 |
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i have locking tuners on a strat, and normal tuners on the les paul. i can say; the normal tuners work MUCH easier than locking ones. you have to unlock it first, fiddle out the last piece of the string, then fiddle the string IN the tunerpeg...damn. with normal tuners i change strings in 3 minutes, with locking tuners, i have to schedule it; " 15:00 pm til 15:30; string changing" it really is les easy. IMO that is. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 22.08.2005 01:10 |
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Michael, I had heard the same thing, that TonePros was just a marketing gimmick. Gimmick = $100 more! Nimrod, I agree - locking tuners can be more difficult when stringing. I do A LOT of bends when I play, so I'm hoping the locking tuners will assist me, at least a little, in the area of tuning. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 22.08.2005 01:32 |
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hm. okayy.... well, may I post my "experiences" here concerning locking tuners and regular? as far as i know, my locking tuners didn't help sh*t with tuning stability! my strat is less tuning-stable then my les paul, who has normal tuners. perhaps i need a new bridge, but as far as i know, it is just a gimmick, and it didnt do a thing for me.... well, thats just me. dont know what you already know ofcourse. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 22.08.2005 01:44 |
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Nimrod, I always appreciate others' opinions and experience. Thanks for posting, and please feel free to continue. There are so many differences in the way each of us plays, and nuances between things we often think are identical. I've found that listening to everyone else's experiences helps me to re-evaluate guitar playing questions I think are already settled. So thanks for your comments - they help us all! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 22.08.2005 04:58 |
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Michael, I saw the Tanswell Custom headstock, and it looks great. I was wondering if I could have "Bird of Prey Custom" printed similarly under the Shamray cursive logo on this headstock? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 1989 - Shamray Custom Shop ‘BIRD OF PREY ” for Bill Nyfeler (OR, USA)
Âðåìÿ: 22.08.2005 08:42 |
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yes, a logo update is certainly possible! here is how it would look: |
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