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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2004 21:01 |
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Can the neck be unfinished please Michael.
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.05.2004 00:50 |
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Unfinished, as in RAW MAPLE?? That is extremely NOT recommended! Such a neck will get dirty in days, become permanently stained, and actually begin to DECAY in a matter of weeks. The oils and acids in your skin are NOT kind to raw maple!!! We could do a thin layer of clear lacquer, and then buff it out to a Satin finish, which will feel pretty close to raw wood. That would be my recommendation if you are looking for a "raw' neck... Oil finish is "do-able", but it really doesnt give long-term protection for maple, so i advise against it. (I want to see our guitars last for 200 years, not for two years!) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.05.2004 12:34 |
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Ok dokey, put a thin coat of laquer on the neck the buff it.
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.05.2004 17:43 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.06.2004 23:03 |
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Unfinished neck = warping = bad. Warped necks make me sad | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 02.06.2004 19:30 |
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that's bull  You think a layer of finish will stop a neck from warping? Hahaha  Shamray, you guys really are master crafters!!! I'm very impressed with all your works. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 04.06.2004 23:12 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2004 09:48 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2004 10:19 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2004 22:26 |
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i think the finishing has not much to do with warping or something, but anyway, i played an epiphone zakk wylde les paul a couple of days ago, and the neck is also not unfinished but has a thin satin finish on it | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2004 23:11 |
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The finishing has lots to do with warping-i think its the oils from your hands? Summat like that? Whatever it is, if you want an unfinished neck you need a veneer, i think it is? Then again, i dont know much! Ooo, actually, just found this on the Warmoth website-- "We understand the attraction of raw or lightly oiled necks. They feel fast and are not sticky. Unfortunately, they are much more susceptible to moisture related warping and twisting. Our experience is that hard finished necks seldom warp. Less than 1 out of 200 (0.5%) are returned for warpage. Raw or oiled necks don't fare as well. About 10% are rendered useless from the torture. The more acidic your perspiration, the higher the odds are against you." May not like their stuff, but they prolly know what they're on about? That plus the knowledge of the Shamray team that its a bad idea=i reckon I'm with them! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2004 19:33 |
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what about Warwick Basses ? nearly every Warwick Bass has an oil finish? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2004 22:37 |
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Oil is a very short term finish-it will "wear off" quite quickly. Its like oiling furniture that gets used lots and lots, you have to redo it, i think. Anyway, so what if Warwick basses have oil finishes-thats still 2 to 1
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2004 23:48 |
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Warwick bass necks are not made of MAPLE... many woods are OK to use with an oil finish, (such as the Wenge and Bubinga utilized in most Warwick basses) because such woods have a high natural oil content. Maple has virtually NO oil content, and thus is 'thirsty' to absorb the oils (and acids) from your skin... which hasten its demise. And warping WILL occur once the wood has decayed sufficiently! As it happens, Sean went with a gold lacquer finish on the back of the neck, (see pic previous page) so its kind of a moot point anyhow
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 16.06.2004 08:51 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2004 16:17 |
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Hey, is it ok if I get 11 guage strings rather than 9's? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2004 21:23 |
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its OK ( we havent cut the nut yet!) new pics coming your way in an hour ( check yer email...) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2004 22:40 |
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Sean - yer hotmail is FULL (bounced back!) maybe you should get a 100Meg yahoo mail account? i sent pics to yer other email anyway, hope they get through! (let me know if they dont...) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2004 14:11 |
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Ok Michael, can you resend them to my hotmail account? I deleted all the stupid junk I get forced upon me by those damn porn companies. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2004 19:10 |
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Actually you don't need to resend the email, my other account which you sent it to works fine. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2004 23:13 |
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OK - more pics coming in about an hour 
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2004 00:01 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.07.2004 20:44 |
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How is my guitar coming along? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.07.2004 21:38 |
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I saw it on Sushkov's bench today, it was getting some final hand-polishing ( with ultra-fine polishing compound) - check your email for pics in about an hour...) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 02.07.2004 15:12 |
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Approximately how long do you think it will take to fit the pickups and the hardware? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 02.07.2004 16:54 |
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my guess at shipping date is july 7-9th - Shamray is out of town til then, so no guitars can ship earlier than that... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 07.07.2004 12:25 |
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Sean, take care about those things Zakk uses instead of regular straplocks! Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures right now, but the ones I've seen in Classic Rock magazine was very cool, IMHO. Don't foget to get'em if you want good replica, hehe btw, Good Axe, man |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 11:12 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 12:26 |
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that kind of strap-attachment hardware (large screw-eyes) isnt exclusive to Zakk, i remember a band back in 1977 that mutilated all of their les pauls like that... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 16:18 |
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EVH does that too and uses a chain dog leash as a strap. How painful. Ouch | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 17:07 |
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Yeah, that's what I mean | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 18:05 |
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I think I'll just go with the regular strap holders. Although, sometime down the line I will probably modify it with the large screw eyes, so I can used one of those cool chain straps like the main man, Zakk Wydle. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 19:09 |
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you should get the large screw eyes. Then go to the hardware store and get one of those links like zakk has. If you modify it yourself, you might split the wood. If you have them do it, it would be done professionally. Plus, it will be stronger than straplocks and still serve the purpose of straplocks. The only bad thing is that it will add to the weight of the overall guitar because that link is heavy, plus zakk has a big chain going from his strap. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 19:17 |
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Pretty cool... Why did you opt for a rosewood fingerboard instead of ebony though? Webmaster www.BlackLabelSoci ety.net |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 19:31 |
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lol actualy i been wondering that also... but its a cool guitar as it is Zakk pwns!
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 20:18 |
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I prefer the feel of rosewood, plus my budget would not allow it. Hahaha
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2004 13:34 |
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How is the the guitar coming along? Have you started re-painting it yet? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2004 22:07 |
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Yes. Paintwork will be finished on next week. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2004 00:01 |
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Good, my parents are getting worried that I won't see my guitar soon. I told them that Shamray is just ensuring my guitar is as good as humanly possible. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 20.07.2004 11:49 |
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Any news? |
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