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Òåìà: BULLSEYE
Âðåìÿ: 28.12.2003 14:43 |
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Congratulations Sean, on the birth of your new Shamray Custom Shop guitar (Serial number CS 0020)! We will post pictures of it's construction-in-progress from time to time here in this thread. For the curious, here are the specs on CS 0020: Based on Replica of Zakk Wylde LP Custom - finish color on Body Top is gold/black bulls-eye graphic.
Body: mahogany, medium weight Top wood: 2-piece plain maple top Neck: 3-piece Maple with veloute. Long neck tenon. “1960” slim-taper neck profile. Plastic “bell” truss rod cover. Fretboard: Rosewood with pearl block inlays, - 22 Medium Jumbo ‘SINTOMS 249119’ frets, polymeric nut Binding: single layer on fretboard, multi-layer on headstock , single-layer on front of body. Hardware: GOLD Schaller tune-o-matic bridge & tailpiece, GOLD Schaller machine heads. GOLD Strap Buttons. Electronics: EMG pots, US-made switch & jack - usual LP Custom wiring; toggle switch, 2 volume, 2 tone. Single battery box. Knobs: 4 plastic "gibson speed knobs" (black) Pickups: EMG 85 (neck) EMG 81(bridge) Case: molded plastic flight case Notes: Zakk Wylde top finish – METALLIC GOLD / BLACK BULLSEYE
Shamray Custom Shop logo on back of headstock. Strings: D’Addario 009-046 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 29.12.2003 04:06 |
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Woo hoo! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2004 13:00 |
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update: your guitar has been assigned to master crafter Dmitri Sushkov | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 27.01.2004 23:15 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2004 14:00 |
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Sweet, thanks! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 06.02.2004 00:55 |
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When will I start getting pictures sent to my email address? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 06.02.2004 10:49 |
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just as soon as i get a chance to shoot some with my camera ( Shamray took those with his cel phone... ) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 15.02.2004 15:59 |
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monday you can shoot the neck work starting. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 27.02.2004 19:16 |
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hey man cool guitar | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2004 23:48 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2004 02:51 |
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Things look great so far, thanks! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 17.03.2004 13:43 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2004 08:44 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2004 16:00 |
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Here is a picture of the headstock. Except, obviously mine will have the 'BLS' in Olde English font instead of the Gibson. Also, I will have a black bell truss road cover instead of the gold one displayed in the picture. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2004 02:54 |
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OK Tomorrow i'll work with binding of the headstock. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 03.04.2004 10:28 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2004 22:35 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2004 21:18 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 29.04.2004 14:42 |
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Looking good. When do you expect it to be finished? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 29.04.2004 23:24 |
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In a week or two. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.04.2004 22:36 |
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SPEC UPDATE: back, sides, neck and back of headstock to be METALLIC GOLD finish (same gold as used in Bullseye) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.04.2004 22:57 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.05.2004 23:26 |
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I can't wait to see work on the neck and headstock also the paintwork! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2004 09:08 |
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Neck profile was planed 2 days ago. Today I will work with pearl. There are any holidays in Russia and Michael with camera not present at work in this days. May be today Michael or Alexander will make new pics of your guitar. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 12.05.2004 09:58 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2004 20:03 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2004 20:35 |
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Nice Metallica pic. \\m/ | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2004 23:51 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2004 23:13 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 19.05.2004 00:35 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 19.05.2004 01:55 |
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Wow, that inlay is awesome! Thankyou very much Shamray! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 19.05.2004 09:50 |
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Here is another picture of the guitar. | |||
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 19.05.2004 20:18 |
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Here's another reference picture. | |||
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 20.05.2004 00:18 |
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Ïðàãà ãèòàðà |
I have a Black Label Society live DVD. It's great music!!! And great guitar!!! I'm an old Zack fan. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 20.05.2004 00:29 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2004 12:21 |
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Michael, notice how Zakk's guitar has no ring around the pickup selector which reads, 'RHYTHM / TREBLE'? Can my guitar have the same? Thanks. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2004 14:06 |
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yes its possible - yours shall have no "rythmn-treble" ring!! One other thing, I notice from that pic that his guitar appears to have a clear finish on the maple neck (rather than gold lacquer, as on the back & sides of body). How would you like us to do yours?? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2004 17:28 |
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on harmony-central.com it says "unfinished maple neck" on the original Gibson Zakk Les Paul |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2004 17:29 |
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just got it how to include a picture... | |||
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2004 19:18 |
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unfinished but it has been oiled though | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2004 21:01 |
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Can the neck be unfinished please Michael. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.05.2004 00:50 |
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Unfinished, as in RAW MAPLE?? That is extremely NOT recommended! Such a neck will get dirty in days, become permanently stained, and actually begin to DECAY in a matter of weeks. The oils and acids in your skin are NOT kind to raw maple!!! We could do a thin layer of clear lacquer, and then buff it out to a Satin finish, which will feel pretty close to raw wood. That would be my recommendation if you are looking for a "raw' neck... Oil finish is "do-able", but it really doesnt give long-term protection for maple, so i advise against it. (I want to see our guitars last for 200 years, not for two years!) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.05.2004 12:34 |
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Ok dokey, put a thin coat of laquer on the neck the buff it. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.05.2004 17:43 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.06.2004 23:03 |
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Unfinished neck = warping = bad. Warped necks make me sad | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 02.06.2004 19:30 |
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that's bull You think a layer of finish will stop a neck from warping? Hahaha Shamray, you guys really are master crafters!!! I'm very impressed with all your works. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 04.06.2004 23:12 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2004 09:48 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2004 10:19 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2004 22:26 |
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i think the finishing has not much to do with warping or something, but anyway, i played an epiphone zakk wylde les paul a couple of days ago, and the neck is also not unfinished but has a thin satin finish on it | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2004 23:11 |
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The finishing has lots to do with warping-i think its the oils from your hands? Summat like that? Whatever it is, if you want an unfinished neck you need a veneer, i think it is? Then again, i dont know much! Ooo, actually, just found this on the Warmoth website-- "We understand the attraction of raw or lightly oiled necks. They feel fast and are not sticky. Unfortunately, they are much more susceptible to moisture related warping and twisting. Our experience is that hard finished necks seldom warp. Less than 1 out of 200 (0.5%) are returned for warpage. Raw or oiled necks don't fare as well. About 10% are rendered useless from the torture. The more acidic your perspiration, the higher the odds are against you." May not like their stuff, but they prolly know what they're on about? That plus the knowledge of the Shamray team that its a bad idea=i reckon I'm with them! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2004 19:33 |
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what about Warwick Basses ? nearly every Warwick Bass has an oil finish? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2004 22:37 |
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Oil is a very short term finish-it will "wear off" quite quickly. Its like oiling furniture that gets used lots and lots, you have to redo it, i think. Anyway, so what if Warwick basses have oil finishes-thats still 2 to 1 | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2004 23:48 |
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Warwick bass necks are not made of MAPLE... many woods are OK to use with an oil finish, (such as the Wenge and Bubinga utilized in most Warwick basses) because such woods have a high natural oil content. Maple has virtually NO oil content, and thus is 'thirsty' to absorb the oils (and acids) from your skin... which hasten its demise. And warping WILL occur once the wood has decayed sufficiently! As it happens, Sean went with a gold lacquer finish on the back of the neck, (see pic previous page) so its kind of a moot point anyhow |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 16.06.2004 08:51 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2004 16:17 |
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Hey, is it ok if I get 11 guage strings rather than 9's? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2004 21:23 |
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Ìîñêâà |
its OK ( we havent cut the nut yet!) new pics coming your way in an hour ( check yer email...) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2004 22:40 |
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Sean - yer hotmail is FULL (bounced back!) maybe you should get a 100Meg yahoo mail account? i sent pics to yer other email anyway, hope they get through! (let me know if they dont...) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2004 14:11 |
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Ok Michael, can you resend them to my hotmail account? I deleted all the stupid junk I get forced upon me by those damn porn companies. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2004 19:10 |
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Actually you don't need to resend the email, my other account which you sent it to works fine. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2004 23:13 |
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OK - more pics coming in about an hour | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.06.2004 00:01 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.07.2004 20:44 |
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How is my guitar coming along? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.07.2004 21:38 |
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I saw it on Sushkov's bench today, it was getting some final hand-polishing ( with ultra-fine polishing compound) - check your email for pics in about an hour...) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 02.07.2004 15:12 |
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Approximately how long do you think it will take to fit the pickups and the hardware? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 02.07.2004 16:54 |
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my guess at shipping date is july 7-9th - Shamray is out of town til then, so no guitars can ship earlier than that... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 07.07.2004 12:25 |
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Sean, take care about those things Zakk uses instead of regular straplocks! Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures right now, but the ones I've seen in Classic Rock magazine was very cool, IMHO. Don't foget to get'em if you want good replica, hehe btw, Good Axe, man |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 11:12 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 12:26 |
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that kind of strap-attachment hardware (large screw-eyes) isnt exclusive to Zakk, i remember a band back in 1977 that mutilated all of their les pauls like that... | |||
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 16:18 |
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EVH does that too and uses a chain dog leash as a strap. How painful. Ouch | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 17:07 |
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Yeah, that's what I mean | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 18:05 |
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I think I'll just go with the regular strap holders. Although, sometime down the line I will probably modify it with the large screw eyes, so I can used one of those cool chain straps like the main man, Zakk Wydle. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 19:09 |
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you should get the large screw eyes. Then go to the hardware store and get one of those links like zakk has. If you modify it yourself, you might split the wood. If you have them do it, it would be done professionally. Plus, it will be stronger than straplocks and still serve the purpose of straplocks. The only bad thing is that it will add to the weight of the overall guitar because that link is heavy, plus zakk has a big chain going from his strap. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 19:17 |
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Pretty cool... Why did you opt for a rosewood fingerboard instead of ebony though? Webmaster www.BlackLabelSoci ety.net |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 19:31 |
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lol actualy i been wondering that also... but its a cool guitar as it is Zakk pwns! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.07.2004 20:18 |
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I prefer the feel of rosewood, plus my budget would not allow it. Hahaha | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2004 13:34 |
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How is the the guitar coming along? Have you started re-painting it yet? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2004 22:07 |
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Yes. Paintwork will be finished on next week. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2004 00:01 |
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Good, my parents are getting worried that I won't see my guitar soon. I told them that Shamray is just ensuring my guitar is as good as humanly possible. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 20.07.2004 11:49 |
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Any news? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2004 17:13 |
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Dudes, I'm worried about my guitar. Originally I was told it would take 2 months to build, instead it has almost taken 3 times as long. I ordered my guitar last December, the ways things are going I am worried I shall not see my guitar until 2005. Please, can something be done about this. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2004 18:21 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2004 18:51 |
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Sorry, Sean, it is wery close to finish. BTW - there ara Russian letter "SH" in the circle. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.08.2004 18:10 |
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Is there any progress with my guitar? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2004 11:06 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2004 22:58 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 17.08.2004 03:05 |
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How long till I will see my guitar, 2 weeks? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.08.2004 02:10 |
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How long now till I see my guitar?! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.08.2004 12:48 |
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Actually we can send your guitar on this week. We just wait for the rest of payment. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.08.2004 13:20 |
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Seems that your money came in | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.08.2004 16:36 |
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*jumps up and down in an excited manner* When will it arrive? I hope customs don't get it!!! *does a small dance* |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.08.2004 20:34 |
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Give me more photos. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.08.2004 22:18 |
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Sean - check yer email... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 10:47 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 11:13 |
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ÍèøòÿÃ!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 13:34 |
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Èçþìèòåëüíî! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 15:58 |
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Very nice indeed... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 16:02 |
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I like this guitar a lot as well , only thing i dont like are the machineheads on it but thats only personal enjoy it! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 19:36 |
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actually its supposed to have "kidney bean" buttons, but the local distributor ran out. Luckily, all Schaller buttons are interchangeable, so when we do get some gold kidney buttons, we can send them over to Sean and he can swap them out in about 2 minutes (without having to remove the strings!) | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 21:08 |
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Is There no trussrod-cover or I just don't see it? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 22:22 |
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There will be truss-rod cover after all tests, set-up and ajusting. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 23:15 |
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what kinds of tests do u guys do? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 23:54 |
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The guitar gets strung, set up, and play-tested for a few hours. Then it gets to sit for a couple of days, (to let the neck settle in a bit under string tension) and after that it gets set up and played in some more. Once its perfect, only then is it ready to ship out... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 26.08.2004 23:55 |
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u got any lefty players to play mine or the "lefty-x" when they are done? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 27.08.2004 00:08 |
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Two our crafters are lefty. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 27.08.2004 00:19 |
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Sweet. Oh yeah, you still have some emails to answer for me Michael. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 27.08.2004 01:45 |
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yes, its 1:42 AM and i'm wading through my mailbox as we speak (i'm up to 200 a day, not counting SPAM!) - i will get to them as soon as i can... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 27.08.2004 15:48 |
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I love my guitar. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.08.2004 16:23 |
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How does it sound? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.09.2004 19:22 |
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Is it ready to be shipped yet? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 07.09.2004 13:07 |
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When will I see my guitar, please respond! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 07.09.2004 13:24 |
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Hi Sean! It was scheduled to ship out late last week, but all business (including our shippers) has ground to a halt here, (national days of mourning) because of the many hundreds of innocent people being murdered in brutal terrorist attacks in and around Moscow the last couple of weeks. We will try to get everything back on track as soon as the country starts to come back on line... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 08.09.2004 12:59 |
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Ahh ok, I had a feeling this may have been the case but wasn't 100% sure. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 10.09.2004 03:39 |
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Any news when I will see my guitar? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 10.09.2004 11:05 |
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It should be shipping out next week. I hope to have an update on that by this evening... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 10.09.2004 14:02 |
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i really really love that guitar, awesome work guys. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.09.2004 16:56 |
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So, it's getting shipped out next week for sure? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2004 20:21 |
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Any updates? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2004 23:57 |
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no news, other than its next in line for shipping... will be at least another week, if i understood Shamray correctly, he said today he was only going to be able to get one guitar out this week. Anyway, we are still waiting for "final completion" - its been hanging here for the past week waiting for its gold jack plate to be installed. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 21.09.2004 14:32 |
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Any news, I just want my guitar so badly. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.09.2004 05:14 |
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Any luck with that jackplate? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.09.2004 13:16 |
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Yes, the guitar is READY NOW... i hope to have the new shipping schedule on TUESDAY | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.09.2004 19:52 |
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Woo hoo! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2004 11:11 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2004 03:59 |
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Any news on the shipping date, Michael? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2004 04:15 |
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DRINK BEER!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2004 14:33 |
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Unfortunately, no news on the shipping date. I asked Mr.Shamray very nicely to give me the shipping schedule today (like i ask him every day!) but so far he has not complied. My best guess would be sometime in the next 7-10 days |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2004 20:35 |
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Damn that evil Mr. Shamray! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2004 20:49 |
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I wouldn't damn him sean. Remember, he still has your guitar. lol | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2004 21:31 |
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whats that i hear? a fresh golden bullseye crackling in Mr. Shamrays fireplace? So, evil jk | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2004 23:01 |
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I love the smell of burnt laquered mahogany in the morning. hahaha | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 06.10.2004 00:52 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 06.10.2004 03:23 |
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LoOoVe HuuuuRtsssS! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 06.10.2004 04:23 |
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Can I maybe get a better case for my guitar given the fact I was told my guitar would take 2 months but instead took 10 months? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 06.10.2004 14:12 |
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Done! - Your guitar will have the best case we can find for it | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 07.10.2004 13:05 |
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Thankyou very much. Could I also, maybe get a pony for my girlfriend? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 12.10.2004 00:29 |
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Any news on the shipping date? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 12.10.2004 15:18 |
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UPDATE: Shamray told me today that your guitar should ship out sometime during the week of October 18th - 23rd | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2004 11:27 |
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SKB-56 case for you | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2004 13:53 |
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Has my guitar been shipped? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2004 02:53 |
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C'mon guys, I can't take not knowing what's happening much longer, I've been very patient! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2004 01:23 |
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Hi Sean... due to our shipping bottleneck, it still hasnt shipped, and i dont think it will go out until next week | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2004 15:37 |
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Ok, is it possible that I get updated more regularly? I understand that you are busy but I was one of the first customers and I feel like I'm being forgotten about. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2004 16:03 |
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I just can't believe it's been almost a year since I ordered my guitar and I still have nothing to show for it. I could have spent my £1000 on a brand name guitar but I chose to order a custom one which I was told would take approximately 2 months to build. If I had known it was going to take this long I would never have bothered buying a guitar from Shamray. I seriously think I should be offered a massive discount for having to wait this long and never knowing what is going on with lack of updates informing me of delays etc. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2004 01:59 |
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Well Sean, our "estimated build time" of 14 weeks (what was quoted on your work-order) was only that - an ESTIMATE. (Nowhere in your workorder is there any mention of a GUARANTEED delivery date!) I do apologize profusely for it taking more than double that, but many circumstances have been out of our control, and building guitars by hand is much more an art than a science (which is why the major manufacturers stopped doing it more than 20 years ago) Your guitar has been "ready to ship" for several weeks now - you may remember that i told you some time ago that it cannot ship until we get the rest of the (some even more overdue) guitars out that are still in line ahead of it.. and we are currently restricted to shipping only one guitar per week. (Hopefully that situation, and some of the other dismal problems around here that contribute to unfathomably overdue guitars will change in the near future). There is really nothing left to inform you of, until it actually ships out... The only good news i can offer is that if Shamray managed to get 0015 out on the weekend (like he promised me that he would) then YOUR guitar is next in line, and should ship out sometime this week. Personally I would LOVE to be able offer you (and all the other nice people who have been patiently waiting for overdue guitars) some massive rebates, but i don't think Mr. Shamray can afford to do that, since he has lost money hand-over-fist due to all the delays that have gone on this year (the rent, crafters, overhead, etc still has to be paid whether he ships any guitars or not...) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2004 19:49 |
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I'm sorry, I understand that these things take time, I'm just so anxious to get my guitar. It wasn't fair of me to ask for a discount, especially since the price of the guitar was very cheap anyway. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2004 21:04 |
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Now guitar is really on the way in SKB-56 case. Wait a few days and you will play on it. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2004 00:10 |
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My guitar arrivede today, that was realy quick, so glad customs never got it. It's fantastic to play, and it's got a really nice bite to it. Thanks Shamray, I'll send some pictures soon and maybe some sound files. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 29.10.2004 12:41 |
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Our guitar in SCOTLAND!!! Very Cool! I'm glad you like it, and thanks again for your patience - at 43 weeks from deposit to shipment, its the longest guitar order we have EVER had. We are in the process of implementing several new management procedures to make sure that future orders don't suffer from the delays that yours did... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2004 01:33 |
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Dudes, this guitar sounds absolutely fantastic, it really has got such an amazing tone. I'm in love with an inaminate object... | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 01.11.2004 03:14 |
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NICE!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 03.11.2004 22:56 |
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Hey Michael, thanks for the amazing guitar. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 05.11.2004 08:39 |
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My congratulations!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2004 21:41 |
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Any soundclips/pictures yet?? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 10.11.2004 01:04 |
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I'm still looking for the "kidney" buttons... as soon as i find some they will be on their way in the mail, and I shall drop you an email so you can be on the lookout | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 11.11.2004 10:31 |
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Schaller parts are on the local distributor's stock!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 17.05.2005 13:14 |
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äîëãî æå ëå÷èëè "çàâòðàêàìè" òîâàðèùà çàêàç÷èêà... îáåùàëè ñäåëàòü "ïðèìåðíî" çà 3 ìåñÿöà, à ñäåëàëè "ïðèìåðíî" çà ãîä è âîîáùå òîâàðèù íåïîíÿòíûé... çà 1000ôóíòèêîâ ìîã áû ëåãêî ïîäûñêàòü ñåáå LP custom íàñòîÿùèé íà ebay. Óæ çà ãîä-òî 100% íàø¸ë áû ïîäõîäÿùèé âàðèàíò. Åùå áû è äåíåã îñòàëîñü íà ïåðåêðàñêó è ñìåíó äàò÷èêîâ íà EMG |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2005 02:29 |
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Ïðàãà ãèòàðà |
È ãðèôà íà êëåíîâûé? Âðÿäëè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 18.01.2006 13:03 |
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ß âñ¸ íå ÷èòàë,íî ìíå êàæåòñÿ ñëèøêîì ñèëüíî îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò îðèãèíàëà.Ïî÷åìó òî êàíòà ñíèçó íåò,íó òàì êîëêè è ïîðîãè íå òàêèå êàê â îðèãèíàëå.Îí òàê è õîòåë? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 18.01.2006 13:14 |
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äà, òðåáîâàëîñü òî÷íî ýòîò ïóòü! | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 18.01.2006 14:23 |
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À âû ìîæåòå ïðîñòî èçãîòîâèòü ãîëîâó ïî îáðàçöó è ïðèêëåèòü íà ãèòàðó òàê ÷òîáû íå áûëî âèäíî ñëåäîâ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 20.01.2006 18:53 |
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Äà ìîæåì. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 20.01.2006 19:56 |
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õîòåëîñü áû óçíàòü ñòîèìîñòü ñåãî äåéñòâà. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0020 - Shamray Custom Shop "BULLSEYE" for Sean Adamson (Scotland)
Âðåìÿ: 23.01.2006 16:48 |
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Åãîð
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1000 ôóíòîâ. ~1800$.. òàê? | |
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