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>ïóùàé ýòî listened to and tested âûêëàäûâàåò, à ëó÷øå êòî-íèòü íåçàâèñèìûé òû ïî-ðóññêè ïîíèìàåøü???...... ÿ æå íàïèñàë -- âñå âîïðîñû ê Òîíè.... ÍÅ êî ìíå ..... 
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>ïîõîäó ñ¸äíÿ äâà òðîëëÿ ñîáðàëèñü âìåñòå... íà ýôôåêòàõ êàê ìèíèìóì òðè 
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>>ïîõîäó ñ¸äíÿ äâà òðîëëÿ ñîáðàëèñü âìåñòå... íà ýôôåêòàõ >êàê ìèíèìóì òðè ÿ íå ñ âàìè.....  ÿ âàùå ýòó òåìó íå ïîäíèìàë.... 
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Óñïîêîèëèñü?? .......... 
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STEREO@MONO™ , íåò, êîíñóëüòèðóþñü ñ ó÷îíûìè 
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>>à òîíè ýòîãî íå ãîâîðèë >satix , òû íå òîëüêî òðîëëü ... íî è ïèöäàáîë.... â ÷¸ì ñîáñíî íèêòî è íå ñîìíåâàëñÿ....  Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî
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>Óñïîêîèëèñü?? .......... ÿ îáåäàòü õîäèë
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>íåò, êîíñóëüòèðóþñü ñ ó÷îíûìè õòî "ó÷îíûé" - satix ?? 
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>õòî "ó÷îíûé" - satix ?? ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå, êàê òû ãèòàðèñò 
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>>Óñïîêîèëèñü?? .......... >ÿ îáåäàòü õîäèë ààà ....íó ëàäíî -- *óé ñ âàìè ...... ...ïðîäîëæèì.... >Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî à òû ñïðàøèâàë ïðî "ôèçèêó", à íå ïðî çâóê....... òû - ïèöäàáîë â êâàäðàòå.....
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>>õòî "ó÷îíûé" - satix ?? >ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå, êàê òû ãèòàðèñò â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå - ñìåëàÿ çàÿâà....
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>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî >à òû ñïðàøèâàë ïðî "ôèçèêó", à íå ïðî çâóê....... à êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà? >>ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå, êàê òû ãèòàðèñò >â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå - ñìåëàÿ çàÿâà.... Îêåé. ìîæåò, è ïîëó÷øå.
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>>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî >>à òû ñïðàøèâàë ïðî "ôèçèêó", à íå ïðî çâóê....... >à êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà? ïîõîäó äëÿ òåáÿ íèêàêîé... >>>ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå, êàê òû ãèòàðèñò >>â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå - ñìåëàÿ çàÿâà.... >Îêåé. ìîæåò, è ïîëó÷øå. ... òû äîëãî äóìàë íàä ýòîé øóòêîé?? ... ..åñëè ýòî òåáÿ õîòü êàê-òî óñïîêîèò --- ÎÊ - íî, òîëüêî äëÿ òåáÿ -- òû ïîëó÷øå ... ìîæåò
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>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî ...íèêàêîé ïðîèçâîäèòåëü íèêîãäà íå áóäåò çàÿâëÿòü è ïèñàòü, ÷òî çâóê åãî "òâîðåíèÿ" ëó÷øå, ÷åì êàêîé-ëèáî äðóãîé çâóê.... çâóê - ýòî ïîíÿòèå î÷åíü ñóáúåêòèâíîå... îäíîìó íðàâèòñÿ, äðóãîìó íåò -- íå çàâèñèìî îò êà÷åñòâà òîé èëè èíîé âåùè(ãèòàðû, óñèëà, êàáåëÿ è òä)... 
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>ñîâñåì òû çàãíàëñÿ, ãàðèê äà, íåò... ïðîñòî õîòåë òåáÿ óòåøèòü.... ÷òîá òû íå ðàñïëàêàëñÿ... 
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>>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî >...íèêàêîé ïðîèçâîäèòåëü íèêîãäà íå áóäåò çàÿâëÿòü è ïèñàòü, ÷òî çâóê åãî "òâîðåíèÿ" ëó÷øå, ÷åì êàêîé-ëèáî äðóãîé çâóê.... >çâóê - ýòî ïîíÿòèå î÷åíü ñóáúåêòèâíîå... îäíîìó íðàâèòñÿ, äðóãîìó íåò -- íå çàâèñèìî îò êà÷åñòâà òîé èëè èíîé âåùè(ãèòàðû, óñèëà, êàáåëÿ è òä)... ß íå î òîì.  âûäåðæêå, êîòîðóþ òû ñäåëàë, åñòü íåñêîëüêî ïðåäëîæåíèé, íåñâÿçàííûõ äðóã ñ äðóãîì ëîãè÷åñêè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî øíóð ïðîòÿãèâàþò â îäíîì íàïðàâëåíèè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ÷òî-òî âèäíî. Íî òî, ÷òî ýòî êàê-òî âëèÿåò íà íàïðàâëåíèå øíóðà ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê çâóêó, Òîíè íå íàïèñàë. Ïîýòîìó, ê íåìó íèêàêèõ ïðåòåíçèé íåò
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>Íî òî, ÷òî ýòî êàê-òî âëèÿåò íà íàïðàâëåíèå øíóðà ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê çâóêó, Òîíè íå íàïèñàë åñëè á íàïèñàë, áûëî áû îñíîâàíèå äëÿ ïðîâåðêè, ïèñàòü çàâåäîìî ëîæíóþ èíôó â îïèñàíèè ïðîäóêòà åñòü íàðóøåíèå çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâà, ñêîðåå âñåãî.
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>ïðîñòî õîòåë òåáÿ óòåøèòü.... ÷òîá òû íå ðàñïëàêàëñÿ... À ìíå ÷åãî-îò êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ñåáÿ. ß, âîò, íå äèñêóòèðóþ î âåùàõ, â êîòîðûõ ïëîõî ðàçáèðàþñü Íå ó÷ó òåáÿ èãðàòü Áóðí, íàïðèìåð  À òû ìåíÿ ìîæåøü
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>ß íå î òîì.  âûäåðæêå, êîòîðóþ òû ñäåëàë, åñòü íåñêîëüêî ïðåäëîæåíèé, íåñâÿçàííûõ äðóã ñ äðóãîì ëîãè÷åñêè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî øíóð ïðîòÿãèâàþò â îäíîì íàïðàâëåíèè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ÷òî-òî âèäíî. Íî òî, ÷òî ýòî êàê-òî âëèÿåò íà íàïðàâëåíèå øíóðà ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê çâóêó, Òîíè íå íàïèñàë. Ïîýòîìó, ê íåìó íèêàêèõ ïðåòåíçèé íåò à ÷òî òû òîãäà õî÷åøü? |
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>>ïðîñòî õîòåë òåáÿ óòåøèòü.... ÷òîá òû íå ðàñïëàêàëñÿ... >À ìíå ÷åãî-îò êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ñåáÿ. >ß, âîò, íå äèñêóòèðóþ î âåùàõ, â êîòîðûõ ïëîõî ðàçáèðàþñü Íå ó÷ó òåáÿ èãðàòü Áóðí, íàïðèìåð À òû ìåíÿ ìîæåøü ïðè ÷¸ì òóò Á¸ðí? ...âûó÷è äðóãóþ ïåñíþ... ÿ òîæå ñ òîáîé ïî ÷àñòè "ôèçèêè" íå äèñêóòèðóþ.... ÿ ãîâîðþ ëèøü î òîì, ÷òî ëè÷íî ìíå Ýâèäåíñ êàáåëü íðàâèòñÿ ïî çâóêó .... è âñ¸
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>à ÷òî òû òîãäà õî÷åøü? Àâòîð Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...? Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2012 09:52 STEREO@MONO™ øíóðû íàïðàâëåííûå Lyric HG --- hot-ñèãíàë èä¸ò ïî îäíîìó ïðîâîäó,....... çåìëÿ = âòîðîé ïðîâîä+ýêðàí ðàñïàéêà îñîáàÿ.... Melody --- òàì âñ¸ ïîíÿòíî --- hot èä¸ò ïî öåíòðàëüíîìó, ...çåìëÿ = ýêðàí ... ...åñëè ïàÿòü ñàìîìó, íàäî çíàòü íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà --- íà êàêîì êîíöå Source è íà êàêîì Destination âñå õîòåëè ôèçè÷åñêîå îáîñíîâàíèå, èëè ïðèçíàíèå, ÷òî "íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà" åñòü ìàðêåòèíãîâîå ìðàêîáåñèå. |
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>à ÷òî òû òîãäà õî÷åøü? ß õî÷ó îá ýòîì ñêàçàòü. Âîçìîæíî, êîìó-òî ïðèãîäèòñÿ. Ìàëî ëè. >ïðè ÷¸ì òóò Á¸ðí? ...âûó÷è äðóãóþ ïåñíþ... Äà íè ïðè ÷åì êîíêðåòíîì. Ïðîñòî, êàê ïðèìåð. >ÿ ãîâîðþ ëèøü î òîì, ÷òî ëè÷íî ìíå Ýâèäåíñ êàáåëü íðàâèòñÿ ïî çâóêó .... è âñ¸
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èëè æå êîíåö Source è êîíåö Destination îòëè÷àþòñÿ êîëè÷åñòâîì è ñîñòàâîì êîíòàêòîâ? òîãäà ðå÷ü íå èä¸ò íè î êàêîé íàïðàâëåííîñòè ñàìîãî êàáåëÿ, ïðîñòî ðàçíàÿ ïàéêà íà êîíöàõ. | |
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satix , ìíå ïðàâäà èíòåðåñíî, Ãàðèê òóò íèïðè÷¸ì ñîáñòâåííî, î÷åíü ìíîãî ïðîñòî áûëî â ûíòûðíåòàõ ïðî "íàïðàâëåííûå êàáåëè", íàäî áû âûÿñíèòü, ÷òî ê ÷åìó, âîò è âñ¸
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>âñå õîòåëè ôèçè÷åñêîå îáîñíîâàíèå, èëè ïðèçíàíèå, ÷òî "íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà" åñòü ìàðêåòèíãîâîå ìðàêîáåñèå. ìíå ïîõ ÷òî âû òàì õîòåëè.... â òîì ìî¸ì ðàííåì ïîñòå ÿ íàïèñàë èíôîðìàöèþ èç èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàñïàéêå ê êàáåëþ Ýâèäåíñ ëèðèê... íèêàêîé îòñåáÿòèíû... åñëè òû ñ èíñòðóêöèåé íå ñîãëàñåí - åù¸ ðàç - âñå âîïðîñû ê ïðîèçâîäèòåëþ...
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íàéäèòå íà ñàéòå Ýâèäåíñå èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàñïàéêå èõíèõ êàáåëåé - ïðî÷òèòå è óñïîêîéòåñü.... è íå çàäàâàéòå ìíå ñâîè äóðàöêèå âîïðîñû
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>ïðîñòî ðàçíàÿ ïàéêà íà êîíöàõ. >î÷åíü ìíîãî ïðîñòî áûëî â ûíòûðíåòàõ ïðî "íàïðàâëåííûå êàáåëè", íàäî áû âûÿñíèòü, ÷òî ê ÷åìó, âîò è âñ¸ íå ÷èòàéòå äî îáåäà ñîâåòñêèõ ãàçåò (ñ) 
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>>ïðîñòî ðàçíàÿ ïàéêà íà êîíöàõ. ïëþñ èçíà÷àëüíàÿ íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà (êàê çàÿâëÿåò ïðîèçâîäèòåëü) êàêèå êî ìíå âîïðîñû???
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>êàêèå êî ìíå âîïðîñû??? òû àêòèâèñò
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Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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satix , ÿ äóìàë - ÷¸ò ìíå òàê êàçàëîñü - ÷òî òû óìíåå.... õ/ç íó, äà *óé ñ íèì....
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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STEREO@MONO™ , à âîò ýòîãî íå ïîíÿë 
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Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Symmetrical Design Audio is alternating current, hence it passes through the negative conductor at the same time as the positive one. A common way for cable manufacturers to reduce their cost, is to use the shield as a conductor. Shields are important for keeping interference out of the conductors, but they don't conform to the requirement of a good audio conductor by being solid, as well as symmetrical with the positive conductor. Evidence Audio uses identical conductors for positive and negative signal paths. The shield is only attached at the receiving end and carries what it is supposed to - the noise. âîò òàì ÷òî ïèøóò, ÷òî òàê æå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòè íèêàêîé íåò
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>ïëþñ èçíà÷àëüíàÿ íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà (êàê çàÿâëÿåò ïðîèçâîäèòåëü) òàê âîò ÷å ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå êàêàÿ íàõ íàïðàâëåííîñòü-òî.
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>âîò òàì ÷òî ïèøóò, ÷òî òàê æå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòè íèêàêîé íåò à Òîíè ãîâîðèò, ÷òî åñòü.... ñïðîñè ó Òîíè - îòêóäà îí ýòî âçÿë (ïðî èçíà÷àëüíóþ íàïðàâëåííîñòü)...
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>>âîò òàì ÷òî ïèøóò, ÷òî òàê æå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòè íèêàêîé íåò >à Òîíè ãîâîðèò, ÷òî åñòü.... >ñïðîñè ó Òîíè - îòêóäà îí ýòî âçÿë (ïðî èçíà÷àëüíóþ íàïðàâëåííîñòü)... íó â çàïîù¸ííîé òîáîé öèòàòå îí ãîâîðèë î ìèêðîñòðóêòóðàõ â ñàìîì ïðîâîäíèêå è òèïà èñõîäÿ èç íàïðàâëåííîñòü ýòîé ñòðóêòóðû âûáèðàåòñÿ ãäå íà÷àëî, ãäå êîíåö |
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>íó â çàïîù¸ííîé òîáîé öèòàòå îí ãîâîðèë î ìèêðîñòðóêòóðàõ â ñàìîì ïðîâîäíèêå è òèïà èñõîäÿ èç íàïðàâëåííîñòü ýòîé ñòðóêòóðû âûáèðàåòñÿ ãäå íà÷àëî, ãäå êîíåö íó, äà .... à íà÷àë Òîíè ñ ýòîãî óòâåðæäåíèÿ -- "All cables are directional." |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>à íà÷àë Òîíè ñ ýòîãî óòâåðæäåíèÿ -- >"All cables are directional." Îí ñêàçàë "Âñå êàáåëè èìåþò íàïðàâëåííîñòü. Ìåäü èìååò çåðíèñòóþ ñòðóêòóðó ñ ôîðìîé øåâðîíà, õîðîøî âèäíóþ ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì. Êàæäûé êàáåëü ñëóøàþò è ïðîâåðÿþò íà íàïðàâëåííîñòü. Ïîñëå óñòàíîâëåíèÿ íàïðàâëåííîñòè , ýêðàí êðåïèòñÿ íà "ïðèåì" èëè "êîíåö" |
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