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Ïðèâåò, äðóçüÿ! Âîò, íàêîíåö-òî ðåøèë ðàçîðèòüñÿ íà ïðèëè÷íûé êàáåëü äëÿ ãèòàðû. Ñëûøàë ìíîãî õîðîøåãî ïðî Evidence, íàòêíóëñÿ íà äâå ìîäåëè, äîâîëüíî ñóùåñòâåííî îòëè÷àþùèåñÿ öåíîé. Êàêîé âûáðàòü? Èëè ïîñìîòðåòü íà ÷òî-íèáóäü åù¸? Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðþ çà ñîâåòû 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>îäèí äëÿ ìèêðîôîíà, âòîðîé èíñòðóìåíòàëüíûé?) íåò? ÿ òóïî ïî íàçâàíèÿì ñóæó))) ... ÿ óæå çäåñü ñòîëüêî ïèñàë ïðî ýòè øíóðû.... à âû --- âñ¸ "òóäà æå"... 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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åñëè áóäåòå ïîêóïàòü -- ïîêóïàéòå ãîòîâûå øíóðû(ðàñïàÿííûå) ...ñàìè íå ñïàÿåòå.... òàì ïàéêà "õèòðàÿ"....íè÷¸ îñîáåííîãî, íî íàäî çíàòü --- ÷òî-è-êàê... |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Äîíò òà÷ ìàé ïëåéñòåéøåí íýâýð!! 
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Èç íàçâàíèÿ ïîíÿòíî ÷òî Lyrics ïðèáèðàåò ãèòàðó êîãäà âîêàëèñò ïîåò êóïëåòû, à Melody õîðîø äëÿ êðàñèâûõ ìåëîäè÷íûõ ñîëî, à äëÿ øðåäîïîëèâàëîâà íå î÷åíü:) | |
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Âîò Äèí âñå ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë.. Ãàðèê.. à òû ÷åãî-òî óæ î÷åíü ñåðäèò íà ìåíÿ))) | |
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>Èç íàçâàíèÿ ïîíÿòíî ÷òî Lyrics ïðèáèðàåò ãèòàðó êîãäà âîêàëèñò ïîåò êóïëåòû, à Melody õîðîø äëÿ êðàñèâûõ ìåëîäè÷íûõ ñîëî, à äëÿ øðåäîïîëèâàëîâà íå î÷åíü:) ìíå 2 êàáåëÿ äëÿ ðèòìà è 1 äëÿ ñîëî 
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êàáåëü íå èç äåø¸âûõ..... íà ìåòðàæ - ïî 30$ ìåòð (Lyric HG) ...... íî îí òîãî ñòîèò....ðåàëüíî... 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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âî âî î ëèðèêàõ ìíîãî õîðîøèõ îòçûâõ! íî åñòü åùå è àíàëèçèñ! ÷òî òîæ íåïëîõî! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>êàáåëü íå èç äåø¸âûõ..... íà ìåòðàæ - ïî 30$ ìåòð (Lyric HG) ...... íî îí òîãî ñòîèò....ðåàëüíî... Ñèëüíî ñîìíåâàþñü, ÷òî îí îãî ñòîèò
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>Lyrics ïðèáèðàåò ãèòàðó êîãäà âîêàëèñò ïîåò êóïëåòû, à Melody õîðîø äëÿ êðàñèâûõ ìåëîäè÷íûõ ñîëî Ìäà. À ÿ ïî ñöûëÿì STEREO@MONO™ , âèæó, ÷òî îäèí ñòåðåî, à äðóãîé ìîíî. Òåìà ñèñåã íå ðàñêðûòà. Íó èëè ïðîñòî ñèãíàë â îäíîì èä¸ò ïî äâóì ïðîâîäàì, â äðóãîì - ïî îäíîìó, à ÷åì îíè ðàçëè÷àþòñÿ è ÷åì ðàçëè÷àåòñÿ ýêðàí íå ÿñíî. |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>>êàáåëü íå èç äåø¸âûõ..... íà ìåòðàæ - ïî 30$ ìåòð (Lyric HG) ...... íî îí òîãî ñòîèò....ðåàëüíî... > Ñèëüíî ñîìíåâàþñü, ÷òî îí îãî ñòîèò ñîìíåâàåøüñÿ? ...çíà÷ - îí òåáå è íå íóæåí.... 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>Ìäà. À ÿ ïî ñöûëÿì STEREO@MONO™ , âèæó, ÷òî îäèí ñòåðåî, à äðóãîé ìîíî. Òåìà ñèñåã íå ðàñêðûòà. >Íó èëè ïðîñòî ñèãíàë â îäíîì èä¸ò ïî äâóì ïðîâîäàì, â äðóãîì - ïî îäíîìó, à ÷åì îíè ðàçëè÷àþòñÿ è ÷åì ðàçëè÷àåòñÿ ýêðàí íå ÿñíî. øíóðû íàïðàâëåííûå Lyric HG --- hot-ñèãíàë èä¸ò ïî îäíîìó ïðîâîäó,....... çåìëÿ = âòîðîé ïðîâîä+ýêðàí ðàñïàéêà îñîáàÿ.... Melody --- òàì âñ¸ ïîíÿòíî --- hot èä¸ò ïî öåíòðàëüíîìó, ...çåìëÿ = ýêðàí ... ...åñëè ïàÿòü ñàìîìó, íàäî çíàòü íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà --- íà êàêîì êîíöå Source è íà êàêîì Destination... Ïëþñ ê ýòîìó - ïðè ïàéêå Lyric íàäî çíàòü - ÷òî ïðèïàèâàòü, à ÷òî íåò... Åñëè ñïàÿòü "êàê ïîïàëî" - îñîáîãî ñìûñëà â ýòîì øíóðå íå áóäåò... Êîìó íå îõîòà çàìîðà÷èâàòüñÿ - ïîêóïàéòå George Ls, è áóäåò âàì ùàñòüÿ ïîëíûå øòàíû... 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>Êîìó íå îõîòà çàìîðà÷èâàòüñÿ - ïîêóïàéòå George Ls, è áóäåò âàì ùàñòüÿ ïîëíûå øòàíû... Âîò î òîì æå äóìàþ... 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>øíóðû íàïðàâëåííûå >Lyric HG --- hot-ñèãíàë èä¸ò ïî îäíîìó ïðîâîäó,....... çåìëÿ = âòîðîé ïðîâîä+ýêðàí >ðàñïàéêà îñîáàÿ.... >Ïëþñ ê ýòîìó - ïðè ïàéêå Lyric íàäî çíàòü - ÷òî ïðèïàèâàòü, à ÷òî íåò... >Åñëè ñïàÿòü "êàê ïîïàëî" - îñîáîãî ñìûñëà â ýòîì øíóðå íå áóäåò... Óæå êîòîðûé ðàç ÷èòàþ "îñîáàÿ", à ðàçúÿñíåíèé íå âèæó. Åñëè òàì âñåãî 3 ïðîâîäíèêà - 2 æèëû è ýêðàí, ÷òî ìîæíî íå ïðèïàèâàòü? |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ýêðàí ìîæíî ïðèïàÿòü òîëüêî ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû, è ïîäêëþ÷àòü ýòîé ñòîðîíîé ê óñèëêó. Òîãäà ïîÿâèòñÿ àñèììåòðèÿ, äà. Íî ñàì øíóð äî ðàñïàéêè íåíàïðàâëåííûé. |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>>øíóðû íàïðàâëåííûå íàïðàâëåíèå --- ìîñêâà >> ïèòåð .... >Óæå êîòîðûé ðàç ÷èòàþ "îñîáàÿ", à ðàçúÿñíåíèé íå âèæó. íà îôô-ñàéòå âñ¸ åñòü... >Íî ñàì øíóð äî ðàñïàéêè íåíàïðàâëåííûé. ñàì øíóð èçíà÷àëüíî íàïðàâëåííûé.... ÄÎ ðàñïàéêè 
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êóïèòü ìîæíî ãîòîâûé ðàñïàÿííûé øíóð Lyric HG ....... è íå ëîìàòü ãîëîâó ñ ðàñïàéêîé | |
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>ñàì øíóð èçíà÷àëüíî íàïðàâëåííûé.... ÄÎ ðàñïàéêè âñ¸ ýòî î÷åíü ïå÷àëüíî. ñëûøàòü. |
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>>ñàì øíóð èçíà÷àëüíî íàïðàâëåííûé.... ÄÎ ðàñïàéêè >âñ¸ ýòî î÷åíü ïå÷àëüíî. ñëûøàòü. Íåà. Ýòî î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî ñëûøàòü... Íå ìîãó ïðåäñòàâèòü ñåáå íàïðàâëåííûé øëàíã. 
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>>>ñàì øíóð èçíà÷àëüíî íàïðàâëåííûé.... ÄÎ ðàñïàéêè >>âñ¸ ýòî î÷åíü ïå÷àëüíî. ñëûøàòü. >Íåà. Ýòî î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî ñëûøàòü... Íå ìîãó ïðåäñòàâèòü ñåáå íàïðàâëåííûé øëàíã. Ýòî âñ¸ ïîëíàÿ ôèãíÿ. Ïåðåäà÷à çâóêà ïîñðåäñòâîì òîêà ÿâëÿåòñÿ íà 100% ôèçè÷åñêè îïèñûâàåìûì äåéñòâèåì. Ñëåäîâàòåëüíî, åãî ìîæíî ïîäâåðãíóòü èçìåðåíèþ. Íèãäå ÿ åù¸ íå âèäåë èçìåðåíèé, ïðîâåä¸ííûõ ñ ñîáëþäåíèåì ìåòîäîâ îáúåêòèâíîñòè è áàíàëüíîé àêêóðàòíîñòè, êîãäà áûëî áû ïîêàçàíî, ÷òî ïðè ïåðåâîðà÷èâàíèè íàïðàâëåííîãî êàáåëÿ ìåíÿåòñÿ õàðàêòåð äåãðàäàöèè çâóêà, ïîñëå ïðîõîæäåíèÿ ïî ýòîìó ñàìîìó êàáåëþ. Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, íå ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ÿ î÷åíü-òî èñêàë, ïîòîìó ÷òî íå âèæó ôèçè÷åñêèõ îñíîâàíèé äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ýòî áûëî ðåàëüíîñòüþ, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â ðàìêàõ ìîèõ ïîçíàíèé. |
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ïàöàíû.... ÿ íèêîãî íè â ÷¸ì íå õî÷ó óáåæäàòü,... èëè ïåðåóáåæäàòü... êîëõîç -- äåëî äîáðîâîëüíîå..... êàæäûé ñàì çà ñåáÿ.... âäàâàòüñÿ â òîíêèå ôèçè÷åñêèå ïðîöåññû ïåðåäà÷è çâóêà ïî ïðîâîäàì ëè÷íî ó ìåíÿ æåëàíèÿ íåò íèêàêîãî... ....ÿ êóïèë ýòîò øíóð (Lyric HG) ...ðàñïàÿë åãî ïî âñåì ïðàâèëàì - êàê òîãî òðåáóåò ïðîèçâîäèòåëü.... ... âêëþ÷èë è ...... óñëûøàë ðàçíèöó â êà÷åñòâå çâó÷àíèÿ -- êà÷åñòâî çâóêà ñòàëî çàìåòíî ëó÷øå.... ... âñ¸ .... îñòàëüíîå ìíå ïîõ .... 
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>STEREO@MONO™ , >>òðîëëèíã?? >íåò, ÿ íå òàêîé. õóæå??....  >ìû æå ãîâîðèëè î íàïðàâëåííîñòè. ïî êîíòåêñòó äîëæíî áûëî áû áûòü, ÷òî ëó÷øå, ÷åì øíóð, ïðèïàÿííûé "íàîáîðîò". ÿ è óòî÷íèë. >à îêàçàëîñü, ÷òî øíóð ïðîñòî ëó÷øå, ÷åì êàêèå-òî äðóãèå. íó òóò-òî ÿ íå ïðîòèâ. ñàì êóïèøü è áóäåøü ýêñïåðåìåíòèðîâàòü, ñðàâíèâàòü êàê òåáå íàäî -- ïàÿòü...íàîáîðîò èëè êàê õî÷åøü.... ïîòîì âñåì áóäåøü ðàññêàçûâàòü...
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>õóæå??.... >>ìû æå ãîâîðèëè î íàïðàâëåííîñòè. ïî êîíòåêñòó äîëæíî áûëî áû áûòü, ÷òî ëó÷øå, ÷åì øíóð, ïðèïàÿííûé "íàîáîðîò". ÿ è óòî÷íèë. >>à îêàçàëîñü, ÷òî øíóð ïðîñòî ëó÷øå, ÷åì êàêèå-òî äðóãèå. íó òóò-òî ÿ íå ïðîòèâ. >ñàì êóïèøü è áóäåøü ýêñïåðåìåíòèðîâàòü, ñðàâíèâàòü êàê òåáå íàäî -- ïàÿòü...íàîáîðîò èëè êàê õî÷åøü.... ïîòîì âñåì áóäåøü ðàññêàçûâàòü... íó òû æå ýòî óòâåðæäàë, íå ÿ ÿ óæå íàêñïåðèìåíòèðîâàëñÿ
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>íó òû æå ýòî óòâåðæäàë, íå ÿ ÿ óæå íàêñïåðèìåíòèðîâàëñÿ ÷òî ÿ "óòâåðæäàë"?? .... ÿ ãîâîðèë, ÷òî Evidence õîðîøèé òîïîâûé êàáåëü - çâó÷èò çàìåòíî ëó÷øå äðóãèõ .... ÷òî ìíå åù¸ óòâåðæäàòü? ...ÿ ìóçûêàíò.... ÿ íå ôèçèê .... ÿ âêëþ÷èë - ïîñëóøàë ---ìíå ïîíðàâèëîñü èëè íå ïîíðàâèëîñü.... ...âû äóìàåòå, ÷òî âû ïðî÷èòàëè (ñ ãîðåì ïîïîëàì) "òðè êíèæêè" ïî ôèçèêå è âû óæå ìîæåòå ïåðåâåðíóòü âåñü ìèð?? ...è óæå ïûòàåòåñü ñ êåì-òî ñïîðèòü è êîìó-òî ÷òî-òî äàêàçàòü... äà xåp òàì ... ..."òàì" ó íèõ ëþäè ñ òàêèìè ãîëîâàìè, ñ òàêèìè ïðèáîðàìè, ñ òàêèì îáú¸ìîì èíôîðìàöèè, ñ òàêèì ìíîãîëåòíèì îïûòîì è âîçìîæíîñòÿìè ïðîâîäèòü ýêñïåðèìåíòû è ò.ä.... ....à çäåñü â Ñîâêå òàêîãî íå áûëî è íèêîãäà íå áóäåò ... ...âñå íàøè "óìíèêè" äåëàþò ïî ïðèíöèïó -- òàì ÷òî-òî ñïèöäèë, çäåñü ÷òî-òî óñëûøàë, òóò ÷òî-òî óâèäåë.... ñêëåïàë êàê ñìîã "ïî íèùåòå" ñâîåé.... ïðîäàë ëîõàì... áàáëî ñðóáèë ...è õîäèò - ãîðäûé êàê ïàâëèí... âñ¸... |
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>âåäü íà÷àë ñ óìíûì âèäîì ÷åãî-òî äîêàçûâàòü, ïðèæàëè, ïîøåë íà ïîïÿòíóþ áëèí .... ÿ íè÷åãî íå äîêàçûâàþ.... ÿ ðàññêàçûâàþ ..... ÿ íå ó÷¸íûé - ÷òîáû ÷òî-òî äîêàçûâàòü.... ÿ êîíñòàòèðóþ îïðåäåë¸ííûé ôàêò... ...à äîêàçûâàòü - ïóñòü ó÷¸íûå-ôèçèêè/ õèìèêè/ áîòàíèêè - ïóñòü îíè äîêàçûâàþò... ôèçè÷åñêèå ïðîöåññû è âñÿêîå ïðî÷åå... |
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>Ñïèðòëîòî82 , ìû çíàêîìû ëè÷íî, íå ïåðåæèâàé ýòî ñ êåì òû ëè÷íî çíàêîì??? .....  ...â ñëåäóþùèé ðàç âñòðå÷ó -- óøè íàäåðó....
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... ó Forte äâå öåíòðàëüíûå æèëû, íî îíè ìíîãîæèëüíûå Melody ýòî òîò æå ñàìûé Lyric HG - òîêà ñ îäíîé öåíòðàëüíîé æèëîé --- æèëû öåëüíûå |
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STEREO@MONO™ , òâîé îïûò â çâóêå î÷åíü âàæåí è ïîëåçåí. íî íàïðàâëåííîñòü íåðàñïàÿííîãî êóñêà ïðîâîäà - ýòî íå îïûò, à ïðåäïîëîæåíèå. íåâåðíîå.
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>>Ñïèðòëîòî82 , ìû çíàêîìû ëè÷íî, íå ïåðåæèâàé >ýòî ñ êåì òû ëè÷íî çíàêîì??? ..... äà åñòü òóò îäèí.........
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>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ , áåðè ðàäèîñèñòåìó. òàì âñ¸ ÿñíî ñ íàïðàâëåííîñòüþ À âäðóã ÿ ïî íåäîóìèþ ïðè¸ìíèê ê ãèòàðå ïîäêëþ÷ó, à ïåðåäàò÷èê ê óñèëèòåëþ? 
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>>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ , áåðè ðàäèîñèñòåìó. òàì âñ¸ ÿñíî ñ íàïðàâëåííîñòüþ >À âäðóã ÿ ïî íåäîóìèþ ïðè¸ìíèê ê ãèòàðå ïîäêëþ÷ó, à ïåðåäàò÷èê ê óñèëèòåëþ? òîãäà ïðèäåò Ãàðèê è óøè íàäåðåò
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>íî íàïðàâëåííîñòü íåðàñïàÿííîãî êóñêà ïðîâîäà - ýòî íå îïûò, à ïðåäïîëîæåíèå. íåâåðíîå. ýòî íå ìî¸ ïðåäïîëîæåíèå.... ýòî - óòâåðæäåíèå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ (çîâóò åãî Tony)..... ñåðü¸çíîãî è ãðàìîòíîãî ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ, êîòîðûé çíàåò, ÷òî ãîâîðèò ... à ÿ âñåãî ëèøü îá ýòîì âàì ðàññêàçàë... 
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>ýòî - óòâåðæäåíèå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ áûñòðûì ïîèñêîì íàøåë òîëüêî, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòü åãî îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ ìåòêàìè íà äæåêàõ. ýòî óæå ðàñïàÿííûé êàáåëü. ãäå ïîñìîòðåòü, ÷òî îí ýòî ãîâîðèò äëÿ êóñêà øíóðà? |
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>>ýòî - óòâåðæäåíèå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ > áûñòðûì ïîèñêîì íàøåë òîëüêî, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòü åãî îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ ìåòêàìè íà äæåêàõ. ýòî óæå ðàñïàÿííûé êàáåëü. >ãäå ïîñìîòðåòü, ÷òî îí ýòî ãîâîðèò äëÿ êóñêà øíóðà? èùè ìåäëåííûì ïîèñêîì.... òàì æå - íà ñàéòå.... 
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>>>÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòü åãî îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ ìåòêàìè íà äæåêàõ. ýòî óæå ðàñïàÿííûé êàáåëü. ìåòêàìè íà äæåêàõ - ýòî ÷òîáû þçåð íå ïåðåïóòàë - êàêîé êîíåö â óñèë, à êàêîé â ãèòàðó... |
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>D7 , ñïàñèáî! À ïðî George L's è Mogami ÷òî ñêàæåøü? George l's êðåïêèé áþäæåòíèê . ×òî êàñàòåëüíî ïåðåìû÷åê âîîáùå áåç ïðîáëåì. Ýòî ðåøåíèå óæå ÷åòâåðòûé äåñÿòîê ëåò íà ðûíêå ÑØÀ. èç ÷èñëà íåîñïîðèìûõ ïëþñîâ - ñòîèìîñòü è âîçìîæíîñòü ìîìåíòàëüíîãî ðåìîíòà "â ïîëå" . Åñëè íà ñöåíå ïðîâîäîê ñëîìàëñÿ (íå äàé áîã êîíå÷íî) , ïàÿëüíèêîì îñîáî íå ïîìàõàåøü.  ñëó÷àå George l's ñáîðêà - ðàçáîðêà ìîæåò âûïîëíÿòüñÿ íå â ïðèìåð áûñòðåå - ïåðåóñòàíîâêà äæåêà íà óðîâíå ñâèíòèë-ðàçâèíòèë è ïîíåñëàñü äàëüøå Äæåêè îò George L's èñïîëüçóþòñÿ â êàáåëÿõ evidence monorail êîòîðûå ïî êà÷åñòâó ïðèìåðíî êàê melody èëè reveal , ïî òèïîðàçìåðó êàê George l's Äëÿ ãèòàðíîãî ïðîâîäà George l's â ïðèíöèïå ìîæíî þçàòü , îñîáåííî åñëè êîìó -òî ïðèêîëüíî þçàòü. Òîíêèé ïðîâîä. Ó ñåáÿ â ñòóäèè ìû íàïðèìåð èñïîëüçîâàëè .155 ïðîâîä êîãäà íóæíî ñîåäèíèòü íå îñîáî âêðàäûâàÿñü â áàáëî, äëÿ îáåñïå÷åíèÿ ÷èñòî ôóíêöèîíàëà (ìåòðîâ 3-5) Ïî mogami ñêàæó , ÷òî åñëè òû èìååøü êîíêðåòíîå âïå÷àòëåíèå ïîëó÷åííîå îò ãîòîâîãî êàáåëÿ è ÷óâñòâóåøü ÷òî áåç íåãî íèêàê, òîãäà êîíå÷íî áðàòü. Åñëè ïðîñòî èíòåðåñ è ãîòîâ ïîïðîáûâàòü, ýêñïåðèìåíò çà ñâîè äåíüãè ñàì ïîíèìàåøü, ýòî ëè÷íîå äåëî êàæäîãî.  òàêîì ñîó÷àå ëó÷øå ÷òî-òî òîïîâîå èçâåñòíîå - evidence èìååò ìíîãî ïîëîæèòåëüíûõ ññûëîê. Ó ìåíÿ êàê-òî ëåò ñåìü îïûò ñ evidence.  ïðèíöèïå íàðîä ïîçíàêîìèâøèñü ñ íèì ïîäñàæèâàåòñÿ. Èç àêòèâíûõ þçåðîâ evidence ìîæíî íàçâàòü ãèëìîðà, ïåòðó÷÷è. Ó ìåíÿ íà ñàéòå åñòü ãäå-òî ôîòêè èõ ïåäàëáîðäîâ è ñöåíè÷åñêèõ ðåøåíèé ïî îáîðóäîâàíèþ |
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>>>>÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòü åãî îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ ìåòêàìè íà äæåêàõ. ýòî óæå ðàñïàÿííûé êàáåëü. >ìåòêàìè íà äæåêàõ - ýòî ÷òîáû þçåð íå ïåðåïóòàë - êàêîé êîíåö â óñèë, à êàêîé â ãèòàðó... ñàìî ñîáîé. à ìåòêè íà ïðîâîäå, ÷òîáû óäîáíåå áûëî îáúÿñíÿòü ÷àéíèêàì, êàê ïàÿòü. ïðî òî, ÷òî çâóê ñòàíåò õóæå - íè÷åãî. è ýòî ïðàâèëüíî. ÿ óâåðåí, ÷òî îí â êóðñå, ÷òî òîê â øíóðå òå÷åò â îáå ñòîðîíû
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>ñàìî ñîáîé. à ìåòêè íà ïðîâîäå, ÷òîáû óäîáíåå áûëî îáúÿñíÿòü ÷àéíèêàì, êàê ïàÿòü. ïðî òî, ÷òî çâóê ñòàíåò õóæå - íè÷åãî. è ýòî ïðàâèëüíî. ÿ óâåðåí, ÷òî îí â êóðñå, ÷òî òîê â øíóðå òå÷åò â îáå ñòîðîíû êîðî÷å - ÿ òàê ïîíÿë - ÷òî òû íàñòîé÷èâî õî÷åøü "ðàçîáëà÷èòü" ôèðìó Evidence ?? ...ñ÷èòàé, ÷òî ó òåáÿ ýòî "ïîëó÷èëîñü"... .... òîëüêî îäèí òû çíàåøü ýòó "òàéíó" - ÷òî òîê â ïðîâîäå òå÷¸ò â îáå ñòîðîíû... ...à õîçÿèí êîíòîðû Evidence ïîõîäó ïîëíûé ëîøàðà - îí îá ýòîì äàæå è íå äîãàäûâàëñÿ....
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>>ñàìî ñîáîé. à ìåòêè íà ïðîâîäå, ÷òîáû óäîáíåå áûëî îáúÿñíÿòü ÷àéíèêàì, êàê ïàÿòü. ïðî òî, ÷òî çâóê ñòàíåò õóæå - íè÷åãî. è ýòî ïðàâèëüíî. ÿ óâåðåí, ÷òî îí â êóðñå, ÷òî òîê â øíóðå òå÷åò â îáå ñòîðîíû >êîðî÷å - ÿ òàê ïîíÿë - ÷òî òû íàñòîé÷èâî õî÷åøü "ðàçîáëà÷èòü" ôèðìó Evidence ?? >...ñ÷èòàé, ÷òî ó òåáÿ ýòî "ïîëó÷èëîñü"... >.... òîëüêî îäèí òû çíàåøü ýòó "òàéíó" - ÷òî òîê â ïðîâîäå òå÷¸ò â îáå ñòîðîíû... >...à õîçÿèí êîíòîðû Evidence ïîõîäó ïîëíûé ëîøàðà - îí îá ýòîì äàæå è íå äîãàäûâàëñÿ.... òû ïîíÿë âñ¸ ñ òî÷íîñòüþ äî "íàîáîðîò"... |
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>òû ïîíÿë âñ¸ ñ òî÷íîñòüþ äî "íàîáîðîò"... ààà...òî åñòü, òû õî÷åøü ñêàçàòü, ÷òî Tony (Evidence) òîæå çíàåò, ÷òî òîê ïî ïðîâîäàì òå÷¸ò â îáå ñòîðîíû?? ...íó, íàêîíåö-òî ...äîêîïàëèñü äî èñòèíû....
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ÿ âèæó, ÷òî òû íàêîíåö ïðî÷èòàë ïîñò îò >19.04.2012 08:28
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>ÿ âèæó, ÷òî òû íàêîíåö ïðî÷èòàë ïîñò îò >19.04.2012 08:28 íåå ...âàùå íè îäíîãî ïîñòà íå ÷èòàë... .... à ïðî øòî âû òàì ïèñàëè??? |
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>íåå ...âàùå íè îäíîãî ïîñòà íå ÷èòàë... .... à ïðî øòî âû òàì ïèñàëè??? íå ïîìíþ óæå
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Ìîñêâà Ðóêè è çóáû 
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Êñòàòü íà ìîèõ ýâèëåíñàõ ñòðåëî÷êè íàïðàâëåííîñòè íàðèñîâàííû òåì êòî èõ ïàÿë) èñïîëüçóþ òîëüêî â óêàçàííîì íàïðàâëåíèè à òî âäðóã ÷åãî) | |
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 èòîãå âçÿë Analysis Plus Johnny Hiland Signature. Ðàçíèöà â çâóêå ñ âèòûì Âîêñîì î÷åíü îùóòèìàÿ Ïðàâäà, òîëñòûé è î÷åíü íå ýëàñòè÷íûé. Òîð÷èò èç ãèòàðû êàê êèñëîðîäíûé øëàíã Íó è ñâîðà÷èâàåòñÿ â êîëüöî ìèíèìóì 40ñì â äèàìåòðå 
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> èòîãå âçÿë Analysis Plus Johnny Hiland Signature. Ðàçíèöà â çâóêå ñ âèòûì Âîêñîì î÷åíü îùóòèìàÿ Äðÿìñ!! ...Analysis - õîðîøèé êàáåëü .... >Ïðàâäà, òîëñòûé è î÷åíü íå ýëàñòè÷íûé. Òîð÷èò èç ãèòàðû êàê êèñëîðîäíûé øëàíã Íó è ñâîðà÷èâàåòñÿ â êîëüöî ìèíèìóì 40ñì â äèàìåòðå ...íó, à êàê òû õîòåë...... âåçäå åñòü ñâîè èçäåðæêè ... ......... Lyric HG òàêîé æå...
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STEREO@MONO™ ,
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À ìíå Lava Soar çàäàðèëè íà ÄÐ. Òîæå îòëè÷íûé. Ðàçíèöà ñ ôåíäåðîâêèì î÷åíü çàìåòíà
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>À ìíå Lava Soar çàäàðèëè íà ÄÐ. Òîæå îòëè÷íûé. Ðàçíèöà ñ ôåíäåðîâêèì î÷åíü çàìåòíà íåò ôîòî - íåò äðÿìñîô 
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STEREO@MONO™ , òû ïðîñòî çàâèäóåøü
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>À êàêàÿ äëèíà ó òîãî è ó äðóãîãî (ó Âîêñà â ðàñòÿíóòîì ñîñòîÿíèè)? 9 ìåòðîâ. |
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Çàâòðà çàõâà÷ó òð¸õìåòðîâûé Òàñêåð ñ Íîéòðèêàìè, ïîïðîáóþ ñðàâíèòü. | |
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Êñòàòè, òàêè ñðàâíèë ñðàâíèë Òàñêåð è Àíàëèñèñ - Àíàëèñèñ ïðîñòî âíå êîíêóðåíöèè
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Òàñêåð -- ÷òî çà øíóð òàêîé?? >>À êàêàÿ äëèíà ó òîãî è ó äðóãîãî (ó Âîêñà â ðàñòÿíóòîì ñîñòîÿíèè)? >9 ìåòðîâ. ÿ ñðàâíèâàë øíóðû - êàæäûé íå áîëåå 3õ ìåòðîâ äëèíîé.... è äàæå íà òàêîì êîðîòêîì ìåòðàæå ðàçíèöó â êà÷åñòâå çâóêà ñëûøíî î÷åíü õîðîøî... |
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ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ à ëèðèê ïî÷åìó íå ñìîòðåë?
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>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ à ëèðèê ïî÷åìó íå ñìîòðåë? Íå êðàñèâûé îí 
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>>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ à ëèðèê ïî÷åìó íå ñìîòðåë? >Íå êðàñèâûé îí ÿ áû òàê íå ñêàçàë
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vivaat , îáîø¸ëñÿ â 134 äîëëàðà ñ äîñòàâêîé. Ýòî Âîêñ 9 ìåòðîâ, à Àíàëèñèñ 12 ôóòîâ)) Êñòàòè, ñêàçàòü, ñïàÿí áûë äîâîëüíî íåáðåæíî - ïî÷òè ñðàçó íà÷àëèñü êîñÿêè. ß ãðåøèë íà ãèòàðíîå ãíåçíçäî, ÷òî åãî ñëèøêîì êîëáàñèò îò æ¸ñòêîãî øíóðà, à ñåãîäíÿ ðàçîáðàë è óâèäåë, ÷òî äåëî â òîì êàê áûë ïðèïàÿí äæåê (êîðîòèëî). Âñ¸ ïîïðàâèìî, íî çà òàêèå äåíüãè òàêîå òÿï-ëÿïñòâî... Õîòÿ çà çâóê ãîòîâ ïðîñòèòü
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>>>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ à ëèðèê ïî÷åìó íå ñìîòðåë? >>Íå êðàñèâûé îí >ÿ áû òàê íå ñêàçàë Ñîãëàñåí, îí íå íå êðàñèâûé. Íî Àíàëèñèñ ïîíàðÿäíåå
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>>>>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ à ëèðèê ïî÷åìó íå ñìîòðåë? >>>Íå êðàñèâûé îí >>ÿ áû òàê íå ñêàçàë >Ñîãëàñåí, îí íå íå êðàñèâûé. Íî Àíàëèñèñ ïîíàðÿäíåå íóóó.... "íà âêóñ è öâåò.." -- "..êàê ðûáà îá ë¸ä".
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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STEREO@MONO™ , íå äî êîíöà ÷èòàë âàøó ñàòèêñîì ôèçè÷åñêóþ äèñêóññèþ, íî ýòî ìíîãîêðàòíî îáñîñàíû, ïðîñòîé íåðàñïàÿííûé êóñîê êàáåëÿ íå ìîæåò áûòü íàïðàâëåííûì. Êàê íè êðóòè. Äæåêè ïî ðàçíîìó ðàñïàÿòü - ïæàëñòà. Òîíè î÷åâèäíî íîðìàëüíûé ïîö è õîðîøèé ìîðêåòîëîã ïðîñòî, îí òåáÿ è íå â òîì åù¸ óáåäèò)) òàì òîæå ïî òåìå åñòü
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Òî ÷òî Ýâèäåíñå ïèñòàòûå êàáåëè íèêòî è íå îòðèöàë òàùåìòà
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>íå äî êîíöà ÷èòàë âàøó ñàòèêñîì ôèçè÷åñêóþ äèñêóññèþ
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satix , ìðàêîáåñîâ íà äèñêóññèÿõ õâàòàåò Ýâîëþöèè íåò, Ñëàâÿíå íà êîñìè÷åñêèõ êðåéñåðàõ âî ãëàâå ñ Àäìèðàëîì Ïåðóíîì íà Çåìëþ 40 000 ëåò íàçàä ïðèëåòåëè. Ñëóøàÿ ìóçîí ÷åðåç íàïðàâëåííûå êàáåëè 
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Êñòàòå, ÷å ñêàæåòå Klotz LaGrange â ñðàâíåíèè Lava Blue Demon è ELC? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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ß âîò åù¸ ÷òî íå ïîíÿë - ïî èäåå îñíîâíîé âàæíåéøèé ïàðàìåòð ïðîâîäà - ñîïðîòèâëåíèå íà ìåòð. Òàê âîò ó êëîòö ëàãðàíæ è äðóãèõ õîðîøèõ êëîòö îí ïîðÿäêà 75 ïêÔ/ì, ó Âîâîêñ òîæå ñàìîå, ó Ëàâû - äàæå íåäîðîãîãî áëþ äåìîí - ïîðÿäêà 27 ïêÔ/ì, òóò êòî-òî èç íèõ ãîíèò èëè â ÷¸ì ñîëü?
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>ñîïðîòèâëåíèå íà ìåòð >îí ïîðÿäêà 75 ïêÔ/ì ýòî ¸ìêîñòü
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>>ñîïðîòèâëåíèå íà ìåòð >>îí ïîðÿäêà 75 ïêÔ/ì >ýòî ¸ìêîñòü áëÿ íó ñàìî ñîáîé íó â îáùåì âñå ïîíÿëè ÷òî èìåëîñü ââèäó.Òàê â ÷¸ì ñîëü-òî? |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>Òàê â ÷¸ì ñîëü-òî? ÷åì ìåíüøå äëèíà, ñîïðîòèâëåíèå, åìêîñòü è ýêðàíèðîâêà, òåì ëó÷øå äëÿ ïåðåäà÷è èñòèííîãî çâóêà ãèòàðû. íå âñåì îí òàêîé íðàâèòñÿ, ïîýòîìó åñòü âàðèàöèè.
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Áåðè ãäå ìåíüøå íî ïîìíè ÷òî îí ìîæåò áûòü òîíüøå) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>STEREO@MONO™ , íå äî êîíöà ÷èòàë âàøó ñàòèêñîì ôèçè÷åñêóþ äèñêóññèþ, íî ýòî ìíîãîêðàòíî îáñîñàíû, ïðîñòîé íåðàñïàÿííûé êóñîê êàáåëÿ íå ìîæåò áûòü íàïðàâëåííûì. Êàê íè êðóòè. Äæåêè ïî ðàçíîìó ðàñïàÿòü - ïæàëñòà. Òîíè î÷åâèäíî íîðìàëüíûé ïîö è õîðîøèé ìîðêåòîëîã ïðîñòî, îí òåáÿ è íå â òîì åù¸ óáåäèò)) >http://audio.goldprivacy.com/index.php?articl=20 òàì òîæå ïî òåìå åñòü ìíå íàöðàòü ïî-áîëüøîìó ñ÷¸òó.... êòî - ìàðêåòîëîã, êòî - ãåíèêîëîã .... ÿ êóïèë.... ÿ ñïàÿë, êàê ðåêîìåíäîâàíî .... ÿ âêëþ÷èë .... ÿ óñëûøàë ðàçíèöó â êà÷åñòâå... ÿ ñäåëàë âûâîäû äëÿ ñåáÿ .... ìåíÿ âñ¸ óñòðàèâàåò .... îñòàëüíàÿ "ôèçèêà" ìíå êàê-òî ïîõ ..... ïî ÷àñòè "ôèçèêè" -- âñå âîïðîñû ê Òîíè
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STEREO@MONO™ , ïðîñòî åñëè òû äæåêè áû ñ äðóãèõ ñòîðîí ïðèïàÿë, êàáåëü ðàáîòàë áû òàê æå õîðîøî
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>>ñîïðîòèâëåíèå íà ìåòð >>îí ïîðÿäêà 75 ïêÔ/ì >ýòî ¸ìêîñòü êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà >Òàê â ÷¸ì ñîëü-òî? .... ñîëü - â ïà÷êàõ .... éîäèðîâàííàÿ ...
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>STEREO@MONO™ , ïðîñòî åñëè òû äæåêè áû ñ äðóãèõ ñòîðîí ïðèïàÿë, êàáåëü ðàáîòàë áû òàê æå õîðîøî êàáåëü áû ðàáîòàë â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå --- ýòî è åæó ïîíÿòíî.... õîðîøî ðàáîòàë áû èëè ïëîõî -- ýòî äðóãîé âîïðîö .....
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>êàáåëü áû ðàáîòàë â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå --- ýòî è åæó ïîíÿòíî.... >õîðîøî ðàáîòàë áû èëè ïëîõî -- ýòî äðóãîé âîïðîö ..... òû òóò ñàì ãîâîðèë, ÷òî ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî èáî ñèãíàë åñòü ïî ñóòè ïåðåìåííûé òîê, í â îáå ñòîðîíû èä¸ò ïî ôàêòó - è åñëè áû êàáåëü â îäíó ñòîðîíó ïðîïóñêàë ëó÷øå, ÷åì â äðóãóþ, îí â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå áû æðàë ïîëîâèíó ñèãíàëà
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Sir FlyingV , òû ìîçê íå èïè .... à ëó÷øå êóïè êóñîê ýòîãî êàáåëÿ, ïðîâåäè âñå íåîáõîäèìûå è âîçìîæíûå çàìåðû è ýêñïåðèìåíòû ñ ýòèì êàáåëåì, ...è äîêàæè âñåì, ÷òî Òîíè ãîíèò è "âïàðèâàåò" òóôòó .... ïîåäü ê íåìó è çàñóíü åìó ýòîò êàáåëü â àíàë ...
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>Òîíè ãîíèò è "âïàðèâàåò" òóôòó .... ïîåäü ê íåìó è çàñóíü åìó ýòîò êàáåëü â àíà òîíè íå ãîíèò ..... ãîíèøü òû
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STEREO@MONO™ , òàê îí òóôòó íå âïàðèâàåò, ïðîñòî êàê ëþáîé êîììåðñàíò ðàçäóâàåò âñÿêèå ìàðêåòèíãîâûå ôèøêè, â òîì ÷èñëå íå èìåþùèå îòíîøåíèÿ ê ðåàëüíîìó äåëó, øîá åù¸ áîëüøå âñå ïîêóïàëè
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>òîíè íå ãîíèò ..... ãîíèøü òû â ÷¸ì ÿ ãîíþ? ïðèìåðû...
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>íî íàïðàâëåííîñòü íåðàñïàÿííîãî êóñêà ïðîâîäà - ýòî íå îïûò, à ïðåäïîëîæåíèå. íåâåðíîå. >ýòî íå ìî¸ ïðåäïîëîæåíèå.... >ýòî - óòâåðæäåíèå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ (çîâóò åãî Tony)..... à òîíè ýòîãî íå ãîâîðèë
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STEREO@MONO™ , òû ëó÷øå íàãîíè êàêèå åù¸ êàáåëè þçàë è ÷åêàê
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>STEREO@MONO™ , òàê îí òóôòó íå âïàðèâàåò, ïðîñòî êàê ëþáîé êîììåðñàíò ðàçäóâàåò âñÿêèå ìàðêåòèíãîâûå ôèøêè, â òîì ÷èñëå íå èìåþùèå îòíîøåíèÿ ê ðåàëüíîìó äåëó, øîá åù¸ áîëüøå âñå ïîêóïàëè äàæå åñëè îí " êàê ëþáîé êîììåðñàíò ðàçäóâàåò âñÿêèå ìàðêåòèíãîâûå ôèøêè " -- ÿ-òî òóò ïðè ÷¸ì????... ÷òî òû îò ìåíÿ õî÷åøü??? ....... ÿ çà ÷òî "êóïèë" - çà òî è "ïðîäàë"... îäíî ÿ ìîãó ñêàçàòü òî÷íî - ýòî òî, ÷òî Òîíè íå òîëüêî "ìàðêåòîëîã" è "êîìåðñàíò" - îí î÷åíü õîðîøèé ñïåö ïî êàáåëÿì... ÿ åìó äîâåðÿþ.... ÷èòàé åù¸ ðàç ìîé ïîñò.... >Âðåìÿ: 22.05.2012 13:10 |
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>>îí î÷åíü õîðîøèé ñïåö ïî êàáåëÿì >â ýòîì êàãáý íèêòî è íå ñîìíåâàëñÿ)
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>>íî íàïðàâëåííîñòü íåðàñïàÿííîãî êóñêà ïðîâîäà - ýòî íå îïûò, à ïðåäïîëîæåíèå. íåâåðíîå. >>ýòî íå ìî¸ ïðåäïîëîæåíèå.... >>ýòî - óòâåðæäåíèå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ (çîâóò åãî Tony)..... >à òîíè ýòîãî íå ãîâîðèë âîò, ÷òî Òîíè ãîâîðèò... All cables are directional. Drawn copper elicits a grain structure with a chevron shape, clearly visible under a microscope. Each run of Evidence Audio cable is listened to and tested for directionality. Once directionality is established, the shield is attached at the “receiving” or “destination” end such, that noise is drained to the path with lower impedance. Between a guitar and amplifier, this is often at the amplifier end. It is very often the amplifier end when the cable is used between a preamplifier and an amplifier. ...ýòî íà÷àëî èíñòðóêöèè.... äî ðàñïàéêè êàáåëÿ.. äàëüøå èä¸ò îïèñàíèå ïðîöåññà ðàñïàéêè êàáåëÿ ... |
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ïîõîäó ñ¸äíÿ äâà òðîëëÿ ñîáðàëèñü âìåñòå... íà ýôôåêòàõ
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>All cables are directional. Drawn copper elicits a grain structure with a chevron shape, clearly visible under a microscope. Each run of Evidence Audio cable is listened to and tested for directionality. >Once directionality is established, the shield is attached at the “receiving” or “destination” end such, that noise is drained to the path with lower impedance. Between a guitar and amplifier, this is often at the amplifier end. It is very often the amplifier end when the cable is used between a preamplifier and an amplifier. ïóùàé ýòî listened to and tested âûêëàäûâàåò, à ëó÷øå êòî-íèòü íåçàâèñèìûé Íå, âîïðîñ èíòåðåñíûé, ùà ñ øàðÿùèìè â ôèçèêå ýëåêòðè÷åñòâà è ïðîâîäíèêîâ ïîáàçàðþ, ïîñìîòðþ ÷å ñêàæóò |
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>à òîíè ýòîãî íå ãîâîðèë satix , òû íå òîëüêî òðîëëü ... íî è ïèöäàáîë.... â ÷¸ì ñîáñíî íèêòî è íå ñîìíåâàëñÿ.... 
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>ïóùàé ýòî listened to and tested âûêëàäûâàåò, à ëó÷øå êòî-íèòü íåçàâèñèìûé òû ïî-ðóññêè ïîíèìàåøü???...... ÿ æå íàïèñàë -- âñå âîïðîñû ê Òîíè.... ÍÅ êî ìíå .....
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>ïîõîäó ñ¸äíÿ äâà òðîëëÿ ñîáðàëèñü âìåñòå... íà ýôôåêòàõ êàê ìèíèìóì òðè
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>>ïîõîäó ñ¸äíÿ äâà òðîëëÿ ñîáðàëèñü âìåñòå... íà ýôôåêòàõ >êàê ìèíèìóì òðè ÿ íå ñ âàìè..... ÿ âàùå ýòó òåìó íå ïîäíèìàë....
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Óñïîêîèëèñü?? ..........
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STEREO@MONO™ , íåò, êîíñóëüòèðóþñü ñ ó÷îíûìè
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>íåò, êîíñóëüòèðóþñü ñ ó÷îíûìè õòî "ó÷îíûé" - satix ??
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>>Óñïîêîèëèñü?? .......... >ÿ îáåäàòü õîäèë ààà ....íó ëàäíî -- *óé ñ âàìè ...... ...ïðîäîëæèì.... >Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî à òû ñïðàøèâàë ïðî "ôèçèêó", à íå ïðî çâóê....... òû - ïèöäàáîë â êâàäðàòå.....
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>>õòî "ó÷îíûé" - satix ?? >ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå, êàê òû ãèòàðèñò â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå - ñìåëàÿ çàÿâà....
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>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî >à òû ñïðàøèâàë ïðî "ôèçèêó", à íå ïðî çâóê....... à êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà? >>ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå, êàê òû ãèòàðèñò >â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå - ñìåëàÿ çàÿâà.... Îêåé. ìîæåò, è ïîëó÷øå.
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>>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî >>à òû ñïðàøèâàë ïðî "ôèçèêó", à íå ïðî çâóê....... >à êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà? ïîõîäó äëÿ òåáÿ íèêàêîé... >>>ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå, êàê òû ãèòàðèñò >>â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå - ñìåëàÿ çàÿâà.... >Îêåé. ìîæåò, è ïîëó÷øå. ... òû äîëãî äóìàë íàä ýòîé øóòêîé?? ... ..åñëè ýòî òåáÿ õîòü êàê-òî óñïîêîèò --- ÎÊ - íî, òîëüêî äëÿ òåáÿ -- òû ïîëó÷øå ... ìîæåò
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>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî ...íèêàêîé ïðîèçâîäèòåëü íèêîãäà íå áóäåò çàÿâëÿòü è ïèñàòü, ÷òî çâóê åãî "òâîðåíèÿ" ëó÷øå, ÷åì êàêîé-ëèáî äðóãîé çâóê.... çâóê - ýòî ïîíÿòèå î÷åíü ñóáúåêòèâíîå... îäíîìó íðàâèòñÿ, äðóãîìó íåò -- íå çàâèñèìî îò êà÷åñòâà òîé èëè èíîé âåùè(ãèòàðû, óñèëà, êàáåëÿ è òä)...
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>ñîâñåì òû çàãíàëñÿ, ãàðèê äà, íåò... ïðîñòî õîòåë òåáÿ óòåøèòü.... ÷òîá òû íå ðàñïëàêàëñÿ...
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>>Íèôèãà î çâóêå òàì íå ñêàçàíî >...íèêàêîé ïðîèçâîäèòåëü íèêîãäà íå áóäåò çàÿâëÿòü è ïèñàòü, ÷òî çâóê åãî "òâîðåíèÿ" ëó÷øå, ÷åì êàêîé-ëèáî äðóãîé çâóê.... >çâóê - ýòî ïîíÿòèå î÷åíü ñóáúåêòèâíîå... îäíîìó íðàâèòñÿ, äðóãîìó íåò -- íå çàâèñèìî îò êà÷åñòâà òîé èëè èíîé âåùè(ãèòàðû, óñèëà, êàáåëÿ è òä)... ß íå î òîì.  âûäåðæêå, êîòîðóþ òû ñäåëàë, åñòü íåñêîëüêî ïðåäëîæåíèé, íåñâÿçàííûõ äðóã ñ äðóãîì ëîãè÷åñêè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî øíóð ïðîòÿãèâàþò â îäíîì íàïðàâëåíèè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ÷òî-òî âèäíî. Íî òî, ÷òî ýòî êàê-òî âëèÿåò íà íàïðàâëåíèå øíóðà ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê çâóêó, Òîíè íå íàïèñàë. Ïîýòîìó, ê íåìó íèêàêèõ ïðåòåíçèé íåò
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>Íî òî, ÷òî ýòî êàê-òî âëèÿåò íà íàïðàâëåíèå øíóðà ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê çâóêó, Òîíè íå íàïèñàë åñëè á íàïèñàë, áûëî áû îñíîâàíèå äëÿ ïðîâåðêè, ïèñàòü çàâåäîìî ëîæíóþ èíôó â îïèñàíèè ïðîäóêòà åñòü íàðóøåíèå çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâà, ñêîðåå âñåãî.
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>ïðîñòî õîòåë òåáÿ óòåøèòü.... ÷òîá òû íå ðàñïëàêàëñÿ... À ìíå ÷åãî-îò êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ñåáÿ. ß, âîò, íå äèñêóòèðóþ î âåùàõ, â êîòîðûõ ïëîõî ðàçáèðàþñü Íå ó÷ó òåáÿ èãðàòü Áóðí, íàïðèìåð À òû ìåíÿ ìîæåøü
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satix , òàê à Áóðí êàê èãðàòü ïðàâèëüíî, åñëè êàáåëü íåíàïðàâëåííûé?
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>ß íå î òîì.  âûäåðæêå, êîòîðóþ òû ñäåëàë, åñòü íåñêîëüêî ïðåäëîæåíèé, íåñâÿçàííûõ äðóã ñ äðóãîì ëîãè÷åñêè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî øíóð ïðîòÿãèâàþò â îäíîì íàïðàâëåíèè. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ÷òî-òî âèäíî. Íî òî, ÷òî ýòî êàê-òî âëèÿåò íà íàïðàâëåíèå øíóðà ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê çâóêó, Òîíè íå íàïèñàë. Ïîýòîìó, ê íåìó íèêàêèõ ïðåòåíçèé íåò à ÷òî òû òîãäà õî÷åøü? |
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>>ïðîñòî õîòåë òåáÿ óòåøèòü.... ÷òîá òû íå ðàñïëàêàëñÿ... >À ìíå ÷åãî-îò êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ñåáÿ. >ß, âîò, íå äèñêóòèðóþ î âåùàõ, â êîòîðûõ ïëîõî ðàçáèðàþñü Íå ó÷ó òåáÿ èãðàòü Áóðí, íàïðèìåð À òû ìåíÿ ìîæåøü ïðè ÷¸ì òóò Á¸ðí? ...âûó÷è äðóãóþ ïåñíþ... ÿ òîæå ñ òîáîé ïî ÷àñòè "ôèçèêè" íå äèñêóòèðóþ.... ÿ ãîâîðþ ëèøü î òîì, ÷òî ëè÷íî ìíå Ýâèäåíñ êàáåëü íðàâèòñÿ ïî çâóêó .... è âñ¸
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satix , ìíå ïðàâäà èíòåðåñíî, Ãàðèê òóò íèïðè÷¸ì ñîáñòâåííî, î÷åíü ìíîãî ïðîñòî áûëî â ûíòûðíåòàõ ïðî "íàïðàâëåííûå êàáåëè", íàäî áû âûÿñíèòü, ÷òî ê ÷åìó, âîò è âñ¸
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>âñå õîòåëè ôèçè÷åñêîå îáîñíîâàíèå, èëè ïðèçíàíèå, ÷òî "íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà" åñòü ìàðêåòèíãîâîå ìðàêîáåñèå. ìíå ïîõ ÷òî âû òàì õîòåëè.... â òîì ìî¸ì ðàííåì ïîñòå ÿ íàïèñàë èíôîðìàöèþ èç èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàñïàéêå ê êàáåëþ Ýâèäåíñ ëèðèê... íèêàêîé îòñåáÿòèíû... åñëè òû ñ èíñòðóêöèåé íå ñîãëàñåí - åù¸ ðàç - âñå âîïðîñû ê ïðîèçâîäèòåëþ...
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íàéäèòå íà ñàéòå Ýâèäåíñå èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàñïàéêå èõíèõ êàáåëåé - ïðî÷òèòå è óñïîêîéòåñü.... è íå çàäàâàéòå ìíå ñâîè äóðàöêèå âîïðîñû
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>ïðîñòî ðàçíàÿ ïàéêà íà êîíöàõ. >î÷åíü ìíîãî ïðîñòî áûëî â ûíòûðíåòàõ ïðî "íàïðàâëåííûå êàáåëè", íàäî áû âûÿñíèòü, ÷òî ê ÷åìó, âîò è âñ¸ íå ÷èòàéòå äî îáåäà ñîâåòñêèõ ãàçåò (ñ)
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>>ïðîñòî ðàçíàÿ ïàéêà íà êîíöàõ. ïëþñ èçíà÷àëüíàÿ íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà (êàê çàÿâëÿåò ïðîèçâîäèòåëü) êàêèå êî ìíå âîïðîñû???
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>êàêèå êî ìíå âîïðîñû??? òû àêòèâèñò
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satix , ÿ äóìàë - ÷¸ò ìíå òàê êàçàëîñü - ÷òî òû óìíåå.... õ/ç íó, äà *óé ñ íèì....
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STEREO@MONO™ , à âîò ýòîãî íå ïîíÿë
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Symmetrical Design Audio is alternating current, hence it passes through the negative conductor at the same time as the positive one. A common way for cable manufacturers to reduce their cost, is to use the shield as a conductor. Shields are important for keeping interference out of the conductors, but they don't conform to the requirement of a good audio conductor by being solid, as well as symmetrical with the positive conductor. Evidence Audio uses identical conductors for positive and negative signal paths. The shield is only attached at the receiving end and carries what it is supposed to - the noise. âîò òàì ÷òî ïèøóò, ÷òî òàê æå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòè íèêàêîé íåò
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>ïëþñ èçíà÷àëüíàÿ íàïðàâëåííîñòü øíóðà (êàê çàÿâëÿåò ïðîèçâîäèòåëü) òàê âîò ÷å ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå êàêàÿ íàõ íàïðàâëåííîñòü-òî.
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>âîò òàì ÷òî ïèøóò, ÷òî òàê æå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòè íèêàêîé íåò à Òîíè ãîâîðèò, ÷òî åñòü.... ñïðîñè ó Òîíè - îòêóäà îí ýòî âçÿë (ïðî èçíà÷àëüíóþ íàïðàâëåííîñòü)...
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>>âîò òàì ÷òî ïèøóò, ÷òî òàê æå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî íàïðàâëåííîñòè íèêàêîé íåò >à Òîíè ãîâîðèò, ÷òî åñòü.... >ñïðîñè ó Òîíè - îòêóäà îí ýòî âçÿë (ïðî èçíà÷àëüíóþ íàïðàâëåííîñòü)... íó â çàïîù¸ííîé òîáîé öèòàòå îí ãîâîðèë î ìèêðîñòðóêòóðàõ â ñàìîì ïðîâîäíèêå è òèïà èñõîäÿ èç íàïðàâëåííîñòü ýòîé ñòðóêòóðû âûáèðàåòñÿ ãäå íà÷àëî, ãäå êîíåö |
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>íó â çàïîù¸ííîé òîáîé öèòàòå îí ãîâîðèë î ìèêðîñòðóêòóðàõ â ñàìîì ïðîâîäíèêå è òèïà èñõîäÿ èç íàïðàâëåííîñòü ýòîé ñòðóêòóðû âûáèðàåòñÿ ãäå íà÷àëî, ãäå êîíåö íó, äà .... à íà÷àë Òîíè ñ ýòîãî óòâåðæäåíèÿ -- "All cables are directional." |
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>à íà÷àë Òîíè ñ ýòîãî óòâåðæäåíèÿ -- >"All cables are directional." Îí ñêàçàë "Âñå êàáåëè èìåþò íàïðàâëåííîñòü. Ìåäü èìååò çåðíèñòóþ ñòðóêòóðó ñ ôîðìîé øåâðîíà, õîðîøî âèäíóþ ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì. Êàæäûé êàáåëü ñëóøàþò è ïðîâåðÿþò íà íàïðàâëåííîñòü. Ïîñëå óñòàíîâëåíèÿ íàïðàâëåííîñòè , ýêðàí êðåïèòñÿ íà "ïðèåì" èëè "êîíåö" |
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Íàïèñàë åìó ïèñüìî êñòàòå, ïîñìîòðèì ÷òî îí îòâåòèò
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>Íàïèñàë åìó ïèñüìî êñòàòå, ïîñìîòðèì ÷òî îí îòâåòèò áóäåò ðàññêàçûâàòü ïðî ìàðêåòèíãîâûå ôèøêè..
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>>Íàïèñàë åìó ïèñüìî êñòàòå, ïîñìîòðèì ÷òî îí îòâåòèò >áóäåò ðàññêàçûâàòü ïðî ìàðêåòèíãîâûå ôèøêè.. íó õîòü ìîæåò êîíêðåòíåé ÷åíèòü ñêàæåò
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>íó õîòü ìîæåò êîíêðåòíåé ÷åíèòü ñêàæåò à ÷òî ñêàçàëè òâîè "ó÷îíûå"?? òû æ òèïà ñ êåì-òî òàì êîíñóëüòèðîâàëñÿ.... ÇÛ. ÿ íàäåþñü - òû æå íå òîëüêî ñ satix -îì êîíñóëüòèðóåøüñÿ....
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>Íàïèñàë åìó ïèñüìî êñòàòå, à òû îò ïàöàíîô ñ ôîðóìà ïðèâåò åìó ïåðåäàë??? 
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STEREO@MONO™ , ó÷îíûå äóìàþò èáî òàê íà âñêèäêó ìåäü âñåãäà âî âñå ñòîðîíû âñ¸ îäèíàêîâî ïðîâîäèò
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>STEREO@MONO™ , ó÷îíûå äóìàþò èáî òàê íà âñêèäêó ìåäü âñåãäà âî âñå ñòîðîíû âñ¸ îäèíàêîâî ïðîâîäèò ïëîõî âñêèäûâàþò ó÷îíûå .... íàäî ëó÷øå âñêèäûâàòü...
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>>Íàïèñàë åìó ïèñüìî êñòàòå, >à òû îò ïàöàíîô ñ ôîðóìà ïðèâåò åìó ïåðåäàë??? ñêàçàë, ÷òî åñëè â Ðîññèþ ñîáåð¸òñÿ, ÷òîá áåç íàó÷íîãî îáîñíîâàíèÿ "íàïðàâëåííîñòè" äàæå íå äóìàë íà ëþäÿõ ïîÿâëÿòüñÿ. Ýòî ó íèõ òàì, â Ïåíäîñèè, ýâîëþöèþ â øêîëàõ ïðîõîäèòü çîïðåùàþò, à ó íàñ âñ¸ ÷îòêî - íå ÷èòàë Áàëüçàêà - ïî èáàëó íà-êà
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> à ó íàñ âñ¸ ÷îòêî - íå ÷èòàë Áàëüçàêà - ïî èáàëó íà-êà ó íàñ --- äàæå åñëè òû ÷èòàë Áàëüçàêà - ïî èïàëó ïîëþáîìó íà-êà
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>>vovox êàáåëü òîïîâûé - ñïîðó íåò.... íî îí ÷óòü ïðèïîäíèìàåò âåðõ è íèç .... >òâîþæ äèâèçèþ , íàäîæ áûëî òàêîå íàïèñàòü... íà ñàìîì äåëå ó âîâîêñ âñ¸ ïðîäóìàíî - â îäíó ñòîðîíó êàáåëü ñòàâèøü - âåðõà è íèçû ïðèïîäíèìàåò, à åñëè íàîáîðîò âîòêíóòü - ìèä áóñò âêëþ÷àåòñÿ
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>>vovox êàáåëü òîïîâûé - ñïîðó íåò.... íî îí ÷óòü ïðèïîäíèìàåò âåðõ è íèç .... >òâîþæ äèâèçèþ , íàäîæ áûëî òàêîå íàïèñàòü... à òû ñàì-òî â ðåàëèè ñðàâíèâàë, èëè òîêà íàøè ïîñòû çäåñü ÷èòàåøü? ïîõîäó - åù¸ îäèí òðîëëü çàñêó÷àë ... òåïåðü âàñ òðîå |
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>ïîõîäó - åù¸ îäèí òðîëëü çàñêó÷àë ... >òåïåðü âàñ òðîå à òû òîãäà êòî?
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Philby , ÿ óæå ïîññàë .... ïðîäîëæåíèÿ íå áóäåò - ìîæåøü íå ñòàðàòüñÿ... òåì áîëåå - òû íå â òåìå.
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>Philby , ÿ óæå ïîññàë .... ïðèìè ìîè ïîçäðàâëåíèÿ. |
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The Man From , òàì íàïèñàíî, ÷òî êàáåëü òåñòèðóþò íà íàïðàâëåííîñòü è òîëüêî ïîòîì èñõîäÿ èç íàïðàâëåííîñòè ðåøàþò êóäà ýêðàí ïàÿòü. | |
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>>The Man From , òàì íàïèñàíî, ÷òî êàáåëü òåñòèðóþò íà íàïðàâëåííîñòü è òîëüêî ïîòîì èñõîäÿ èç íàïðàâëåííîñòè ðåøàþò êóäà ýêðàí ïàÿòü. >Îíè âèçóàëüíî ýòî äåëàþò èëè êàê? Èíòåðåñíî áûëî áû ïðîöåäóðó óçíàòü )) êàê òû îïðåäåëèøü âèçóàëüíî?? òèïà - íà ãëàç?? ...Íàâåðíî æ òàì åñòü êàêèå-òî ïðèáîðû äëÿ ýòîãî, òåõíîëîãèÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ... Íå âñ¸ æå òàê ïðîñòî...
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>The Man From , òàì íàïèñàíî, ÷òî êàáåëü òåñòèðóþò íà íàïðàâëåííîñòü è òîëüêî ïîòîì èñõîäÿ èç íàïðàâëåííîñòè ðåøàþò êóäà ýêðàí ïàÿòü. Ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ ôèçè÷åñêèõ çàêîíîâ è çàêîíà Îìà â ÷àñòíîñòè ýòî ïîëíåéøèé áðåä. ß ãîâîðþ èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî îá îáû÷íûõ ïðîâîäíèêàõ. |
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Äàéòå ìíå êóñîê øíóðà ýòîãî ÷òî-ëè, ðàäè ïðèêîëà ïîïðîøó ñâîèõ ìàòåðèàëîâåäîâ ïîñìîòðåòü íà íåãî â ìèêðîñêîïû ðàçíûå îïòè÷åñêèå è ýëåêòðîííûå è ñäåëàòü ïàðó ôîòîê
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> Äàéòå ìíå êóñîê øíóðà ýòîãî ÷òî-ëè, ðàäè ïðèêîëà ïîïðîøó ñâîèõ ìàòåðèàëîâåäîâ ïîñìîòðåòü íà íåãî â ìèêðîñêîïû ðàçíûå îïòè÷åñêèå è ýëåêòðîííûå è ñäåëàòü ïàðó ôîòîê ÷òî çíà÷èò - "äàéòå" ?? ïîéäè -- êóïè ..... è ñìîòðè íà íåãî â ìèêðîñêîïû ñêîêà õî÷åøü... åñëè òåáå ýòî ÎÎÎ÷åíü íóæíî
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Äà íå íàäî íè÷åãî ìåðÿòü, âñ¸ åñòü. Âîò íåïëîõàÿ ñòàòåéêà î âëèÿíèè ðàçìåðà çåðåí ìåäè, íàïðèìåð: Ãîâîðÿ ïðîñòî, íàäî î÷åíü õîðîøóþ àïïàðàòóðó, ÷òîáû çàìåòèòü äàæå ýòî. Î íàïðàâëåííîñòè öåëüíîòÿíóòîãî ïðîâîäà ðå÷è ïðîñòî íå èäåò. |
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áèëåò íà áàëåò 
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òåìà î øíóðêàõ íà ñòîïèöîò ñòðàíèö äà òóò èñòèííûå öåíèòåëè êàê ïîãëÿæó
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Rock-n-Roll ýòî æìóðü
 ß òâîðþ íåìîòèâèðîâàííûå àêòû êðàñîòû  Õåíäðèêñ ñäîõ à Êèðêîðîâ æèâ. Ïåë Ïðåñëè ñòîíàë Ëåïñ.. È Êîáåéí â õîõëîìå. Òàêèå âîò òâîð÷åñêèå âå÷åðà â Ïèòåðå.  êâàðòèðå ñ Âèäîì íà Êàçàíñêèé. (ñ) Time |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2012 12:05 |
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Òîíè îòâåòèë  Hi Boris, Great to hear from you! On directionality: I realize audio is AC. Yet when I take any length of wire, string one for positive and one for negative between two plugs, and play music, and then reverse the direction, I hear a difference. For the sake of speed I usually use blues harmonica. It really has a way of exciting the inner ear one way more than the other when you change direction of the cable (shield lifted on both ends). One way there's just more "push" and crap riding on the already brash sound that it makes the ear canal start to shut down sooner. The other way it's just less... less. This same difference is what I hear over and over. Yes it is a very small difference, but people experience the same thing, and we all tend to agree “something” is going on here. Now, in addition to this experience there is the fact that copper develops a directional pattern when drawn to a small conductor size. The copper grains develop a "chevron" shape, which is clearly visible under a microscope. The shape is similar to these characters: ">>>>>" Some people (myself included) make a connection between what we hear and this physical, directional property of the copper conductors. For a look at some various grain structures from different processes, have a look here: I consider the possibility that perhaps when the grains align in one direction versus the other, on some level there may be a diode-rectification effect caused by the impurities between these grain boundaries, and as such the conductors exhibit better Radio Frequency rejection in one direction versus another. RF rejection can be emulated with the use of ferrite beads on cables, and using them to reduce RF (yes, in the MHz range) can have a similar audible effect. A little ferrite can be nice… too much starts to make things worse. Perhaps that’s just another can of worms. I also notice that the higher purity of the copper, the harder it can be to detect directionality, which supports some relation to impurities and how they might magnify/mitigate the effect. All I can do is offer my experiences which are supported by many people, and take the time to listen to my cable both directions and offer a preference. If I notice something that helps performance even just a tiny amount, I have to pay attention and include it, especially if it is free (listening to direction). That’s my thinking… probably not worth 2 cents but I’m crazy enough to spend some time wondering lol! Here for questions, Tony åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî åãî ïîíÿë, òî îí ñàì íå âïîëíå îäóïëÿåò ýòî ÿâëåíèå â ïëàíå òåîðèè, îäíàêî â ìèêðîñòðóêòóðàõ ìåäè îáðàçóåòñÿ ÷òî-òî âðîäå äèîäíîãî ýôôåêòà, êîòîðûé ðèàëüíå óëó÷øàåò ïðîõîäèìîñòü ñèãíàëà â îäíó èç ñòîðîí, íî ïîêà ýòî âñ¸ ëèøü îïûòíûì ïóò¸ì óñòàíàâëèâàåò. êîðî÷å Praise thr Lord and his miracles 
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>åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî åãî ïîíÿë, òî îí ñàì íå âïîëíå îäóïëÿåò ýòî ÿâëåíèå â ïëàíå òåîðèè îí îïÿòü íè÷åãî êîíêðåòíîãî íå ñêàçàë òðîëëü ïî÷èùå ãàðèêà, åé áîãó
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Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2012 12:16 |
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satix , íó îí ñêàçàë, ÷òî ñàì íå âðóáàåòñÿ â ÷åì èìåííî
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Sir FlyingV , îí î÷åíü îñòîðîæíî ïèñüìî ïîñòðîèë, ñîãëàñèñü Äàæå íå íàïèñàë, ÷òî ýôôåêò åñòü, à òî, ÷òî åìó è íåêîåé èíèöèàòèâíîé ãðóïïå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî îí åñòü, à ýòî ñîâñåì íå îäíî è òîæå. Ìîëîäåö, êàê áû òî íè áûëî. Ïîýòîìó ÿ è ãîâîðþ, ÷òî ÷èñòûé òðîëëü  îòëè÷èå îò.
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satix , ÷åì ÷èùå ìåäü, òåì òîíüøå òðîëëèíã 
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>satix , ÷åì ÷èùå ìåäü, òåì òîíüøå òðîëëèíã ýòî ïðàâäà æèçíè
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>>òðîëëü ïî÷èùå ãàðèêà, ÿ òåáå òî÷íî óøè íàäåðó.....
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>÷òî äîëæíî îòëè÷íåíüêî ïîääàâàòüñÿ èçìåðåíèþ Äîëæíî! 
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>>>òðîëëü ïî÷èùå ãàðèêà, >ÿ òåáå òî÷íî óøè íàäåðó..... â ÷¸ì ìîé "òðîëëèíã"?? â òîì, ÷òî ÿ ïåðåäàë ñëîâà Òîíè? ... ýòî íå òðîëëèíã... Òîíè ÷òî-òî òàì óâèäåë ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì - îí ñ÷èòàåò, ÷òî ýòî ÿâëåíèå, - êîòîðîå îí íàáëþäàë, íî ïðè÷èíó ýòîãî ÿâëåíèÿ òîëêîì îáúÿñíèòü ñàì íå ìîæåò, - èìååò âàæíîå çíà÷åíèå äëÿ êàáåëÿ. ... Êòî-òî ìîæåò ñ÷èòàòü, ÷òî ýòî ÿâëåíèå ÍÅ èìååò âàæíîãî çíà÷åíèÿ äëÿ êàáåëÿ. Çäåñü - âîïðîñ ñïîðíûé... Íî - êàê óòâåðæäàåò Òîíè - ýòî "ÿâëåíèå" èìååò ìåñòî áûòü. À ïðèäàâàòü çíà÷åíèå ýòîìó "ÿâëåíèþ" èëè íå ïðèäàâàòü çíà÷åíèÿ - äåëî êàæäîãî...Òàê â ÷¸ì æå "òðîëëèíã"??
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áèëåò íà áàëåò
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òîëïû ëåììèíãîâ íå ìîãóò îøèáàòüñÿ (c)
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Rock-n-Roll ýòî æìóðü
ß òâîðþ íåìîòèâèðîâàííûå àêòû êðàñîòû Õåíäðèêñ ñäîõ à Êèðêîðîâ æèâ. Ïåë Ïðåñëè ñòîíàë Ëåïñ.. È Êîáåéí â õîõëîìå. Òàêèå âîò òâîð÷åñêèå âå÷åðà â Ïèòåðå.  êâàðòèðå ñ Âèäîì íà Êàçàíñêèé. (ñ) Time |
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ß áû íå êàñàëñÿ ýòîãî äàæå 20-òè ìåòðîâîé ïàëêîé (ñ) | |
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STEREO@MONO™ , ïîêà â ëè÷êå íå îòâåòèøü, ìîæåøü íå íàïðÿãàòüñÿ òóò ïèñàòü. | |
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>STEREO@MONO™ , ïîêà â ëè÷êå íå îòâåòèøü, ìîæåøü íå íàïðÿãàòüñÿ òóò ïèñàòü. õîëèâàð âûõîäèò çà ïðåäåëû ÿ ñìîòðþ 
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Jester , êñòàòå, à òû êàêèå êàáåëè èñïîëüçóåøü? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Sir FlyingV ,#######èç ìåñòíîãî ìóçûêàëüíîãî ìàãàçà 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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ÍÅÐÈÇÈÍÎÂÀß Jackson Soloist "Black Blood", Yamaha SRR400, Hamer Studio 
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À Cordial CGK 122 êàê, êòî þçàë, ìíå íðà, î÷åíü è ðàçúåìû Íþòðèê | |
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Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, çíàíèÿ ïîëîâûì ïóòåì íå ïåðåäàþòñÿ
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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>STEREO@MONO™ , ïîêà â ëè÷êå íå îòâåòèøü, ìîæåøü íå íàïðÿãàòüñÿ òóò ïèñàòü. òû ìíå óñëîâèÿ íå ñòàâü ...ìíå - äî áàëäû .... ÿ ïèøó çäåñü íå òîëüêî äëÿ òåáÿ...òû ëó÷øå ÷àùå äóìàé ãîëîâîé - ÷òî, è êîìó, è êàê ãîâîðèòü.... à âîîáùå -- åñëè áû ÿ ýòó òåìó ñ Ýâèäåíñàìè íå îçâó÷èë, íèêòî áû ïðî ýòî âñ¸ íå çíàë ... ...è íàäî ñêàçàòü ñïàñèáî Sir FlyingV çà òî, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê íå ïîëåíèëñÿ è íàïèñàë ïèñüìî ê Òîíè...... è ïîëó÷èë îò Òîíè îòâåò...ñ èíôîðìàöèåé äëÿ ðàçìûøëåíèÿ è îáñóæäåíèÿ... òàê ÷òî --- 
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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...ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî çäîðîâàÿ äîëÿ ñêåïòèöèçìà â ýòîì âñ¸ì åñòü ...íî íå íàäî òàê óæ ñèëüíî âûñìåèâàòü òî, ÷òî ãîâîðèò Òîíè... ...åñòü òàêàÿ ïîãîâîðêà - -- "Ìû äóìàåì, ÷òî ìû "èìååì" èõ, à íà ñàìîì äåëå - îíè "èìåþò" íàñ."
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Òåìà: Re: Evidence Lyric vs. Evidence Melody vs. ...?
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèòàðà
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>...íî íå íàäî òàê óæ ñèëüíî âûñìåèâàòü òî, ÷òî ãîâîðèò Òîíè... Ïðîñòèòå, à ïî÷åìó? ×òî çà êóé òàêîé ñ ãîðû ýòîò Òîíè è ÷òî çà ÷óäî-êîíòîðà Ýâèäåíñ?
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>òû ëó÷øå ÷àùå äóìàé ãîëîâîé - ÷òî, è êîìó, è êàê ãîâîðèòü.... ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, ÷òî òû ñåé÷àñ âûïðàøèâàåøü ó ìåíÿ óâàæåíèå ê ñåáå? |
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>>...íî íå íàäî òàê óæ ñèëüíî âûñìåèâàòü òî, ÷òî ãîâîðèò Òîíè... >Ïðîñòèòå, à ïî÷åìó? ×òî çà êóé òàêîé ñ ãîðû ýòîò Òîíè è ÷òî çà ÷óäî-êîíòîðà Ýâèäåíñ? Êàáåëè õîðîøèå äåëàþò î÷åâèäíî äåéñòâèòåëüíî õîðîøèå
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>>òû ëó÷øå ÷àùå äóìàé ãîëîâîé - ÷òî, è êîìó, è êàê ãîâîðèòü.... >ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, ÷òî òû ñåé÷àñ âûïðàøèâàåøü ó ìåíÿ óâàæåíèå ê ñåáå? êàê âû áóäåòå äðóã äðóãó â ãëàçà ñìîòðåòü íà ñëåäóþùåé ïåäàëüíîé òóñå?
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>>...íî íå íàäî òàê óæ ñèëüíî âûñìåèâàòü òî, ÷òî ãîâîðèò Òîíè... >Ïðîñòèòå, à ïî÷åìó? ×òî çà êóé òàêîé ñ ãîðû ýòîò Òîíè è ÷òî çà ÷óäî-êîíòîðà Ýâèäåíñ? Ïðîñòèòå, à ïîòîìó, ÷òî ýòèì ñàìûì êóåì ñ ãîðû ìîæåøü â èòîãå îêàçàòüñÿ òû ñàì. Ýâèäåíñ - íèêàêàÿ íè ÷óäî-êîíòîðà.... ïðîñòî - ëþäè óâëå÷¸ííî çàíèìàþòñÿ ñâîèì äåëîì, è íà ýòîì äåëàþò ñâîé áèçíåñ.... êñòàòè, â Ñîâäåïèè íå ìàëî óìíûõ ëþäåé, íî íèêòî ýòèìè âîïðîñàì íå çàíèìàåòñÿ... à ãëàâíîå, êà÷åñòâåííûé êàáåëü "ìàäý èí ðóññèÿ" íå êóïèøü -- åãî çäåñü ïðîñòî íåò -- íå äåëàþò...
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>ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, ÷òî òû ñåé÷àñ âûïðàøèâàåøü ó ìåíÿ óâàæåíèå ê ñåáå? òû ïîõîäó ðåàëüíî çàáîëåë... ÷èòàé âíèìàòåëüíî ÷òî ÿ ïèøó.... à ÿ ïèøó --- ìíå äî áàëäû, òî åñòü - ìíå ïîõ.... è òâî¸ óâàæåíèå â òîì ÷èñëå ... (ïîòîìó êàê, ÿ çäåñü íèêîãî íå òðîëëèë) ÷òî íå ÿñíî?
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>Ïðîñòèòå, à ïîòîìó, ÷òî ýòèì ñàìûì êóåì ñ ãîðû ìîæåøü â èòîãå îêàçàòüñÿ òû ñàì. Âíå âñÿêîãî ñîìíåíèÿ. Âïðî÷åì, êàê è ëþáîé äðóãîé. >Ýâèäåíñ - íèêàêàÿ íè ÷óäî-êîíòîðà.... ïðîñòî - ëþäè óâëå÷¸ííî çàíèìàþòñÿ ñâîèì äåëîì, è íà ýòîì äåëàþò ñâîé áèçíåñ.... Ñ ýòèì íèêòî íå ñïîðèò. Ïðîñòî íå ñîâñåì ïîíèìàþ, ïî÷åìó íåëüçÿ èðîíèçèðîâàòü íàä ñëîâàìè ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûå î÷åíü ãðàíè÷àò ñ øàðëàòàíñòâîì. Ñïîð âåäü íå î êà÷åñòâå èõ ïðîâîäîâ, à îí âîëøåáíûõ ñâîéñòâàõ, êîòîðûìè èõ ÿêîáû íàäåëèë ïðîèçâîäèòåëü. |
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>>>òû ëó÷øå ÷àùå äóìàé ãîëîâîé - ÷òî, è êîìó, è êàê ãîâîðèòü.... >>ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, ÷òî òû ñåé÷àñ âûïðàøèâàåøü ó ìåíÿ óâàæåíèå ê ñåáå? >êàê âû áóäåòå äðóã äðóãó â ãëàçà ñìîòðåòü íà ñëåäóþùåé ïåäàëüíîé òóñå? ïîíÿòèÿ íå èìåþ ÿ íå âèíîâàò, ÷òî ãàðèê áåç îñêîðáëåíèé îáùàòüñÿ íå ìîæåò. STEREO@MONO™ , >à ÿ ïèøó òû óæå ñàì íå ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî ïèøåøü. à ÷òî, êîìó è êàê ãîâîðèòü, ÿ ñàì ðåøó, îê? äàâàé íà ýòîì çàêîí÷èì. |
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Sir FlyingV , ÿ æå ïèñàë âûøå, äî òîãî êàê âû ðàçðóãàëèñü
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>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ , à ñàì-òî òû ñåé÷àñ ÷òî þçàåøü? Êîò æå õâàñòàëñÿ òóò óæå 
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>>Ïðîñòî íå ñîâñåì ïîíèìàþ, ïî÷åìó íåëüçÿ èðîíèçèðîâàòü íàä ñëîâàìè ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûå î÷åíü ãðàíè÷àò ñ øàðëàòàíñòâîì. Ñïîð âåäü íå î êà÷åñòâå èõ ïðîâîäîâ, à îí âîëøåáíûõ ñâîéñòâàõ, êîòîðûìè èõ ÿêîáû íàäåëèë ïðîèçâîäèòåëü. íåò çäåñü íèêàêîãî øàðëàòàíñòâà... ñ ÷åãî òû ýòî âçÿë? ÿ æå ãîâîðþ - çäîðîâàÿ äîëÿ ñêåïòèöèçìà â ýòîì åñòü... íî íå ôàêò, ÷òî Òîíè îêàçàëñÿ íå ïðàâ. Òâî¸ æå óòâåðæäåíèå - ÷òî ýòî ãðàíè÷èò ñ øàðëàòàíñòâîì - çâó÷èò ôàêòè÷åñêè êàê îáâèíåíèå... íà êàêîì îñíîâàíèè? ...âåäü, Òîíè íèãäå íå ãîâîðèò, ÷òî åãî êàáåëè ëó÷øå äðóãèõ èç-çà êàêîãî-òî ìèôè÷åñêîãî âîëøåáíîãî ñâîéñòâà. Äà, îí îáíàðóæèë "íå÷òî" êàê îí ñ÷èòàåò âàæíîå ñâîéñòâî äëÿ êàáåëÿ. Òàê îí íà ýòîì îñíîâàíèè è óòâåðæäàåò, ÷òî èìåííî ÂÑÅ êàáåëè èçíà÷àëüíî íàïðàâëåííûå, à íå òîëüêî òå, êîòîðûå îí äåëàåò è ïðîäà¸ò. ..... ãäå øàðëàòàíñòâî??
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>à ÷òî, êîìó è êàê ãîâîðèòü, ÿ ñàì ðåøó, îê? ðåøèøü-òî òû ñàì.... â ýòîì òåáå íèêòî íå ñîâåñ÷èê íî âîò îáâèíÿòü íèêîãî íå íàäî... ÷òî êòî-òî ãîíèò è òðîëëèò... íèêàêîãî ãîíà è òðîëëèíãà íå áûëî èçíà÷àëüíî â ïðîòèâíîì ñëó÷àå - òû ïîêàçûâàåøü ñåáÿ êàê ïîëíûé ïèöäàáîë.... áåç ìîçãîâ.. >äàâàé íà ýòîì çàêîí÷èì. ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì... à òîò ìîé ïîñò îñòà¸òñÿ â ñèëå...
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>êàê âû áóäåòå äðóã äðóãó â ãëàçà ñìîòðåòü íà ñëåäóþùåé ïåäàëüíîé òóñå? íå ôàêò, ÷òî òàêàÿ òóñà áóäåò èìåòü ìåñòî áûòü è íå ôàêò, ÷òî ìî¸ ïðèñóòñòâèå òàì áóäåò èìåòü ìåñòî áûòü êïä îò òàêèõ òóñîâîê ìèíèìàëüíîå... ñìûñëà äëÿ ìåíÿ óæ òî÷íî íåò...
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>>êàê âû áóäåòå äðóã äðóãó â ãëàçà ñìîòðåòü íà ñëåäóþùåé ïåäàëüíîé òóñå? >íå ôàêò, ÷òî òàêàÿ òóñà áóäåò èìåòü ìåñòî áûòü >è íå ôàêò, ÷òî ìî¸ ïðèñóòñòâèå òàì áóäåò èìåòü ìåñòî áûòü >êïä îò òàêèõ òóñîâîê ìèíèìàëüíîå... ñìûñëà äëÿ ìåíÿ óæ òî÷íî íåò... ñìîòðÿ êàê ñîðãàíèçîâàòü. Íó è âîùå ñ ïîñîíàìè ïîòóñèòü ïðèÿòíî æå
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>ñìîòðÿ êàê ñîðãàíèçîâàòü. >Íó è âîùå ñ ïîñîíàìè ïîòóñèòü ïðèÿòíî æå ñìîòðÿ ñ êàêèìè ïîñîíû áûâàþò ðàçíûå
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>áåç ìîçãîâ.. ïåðåïóòàë. áåç ìîçãîâ - ýòî ïîâòîðÿòü òî, ÷òî êòî-òî ñêàçàë.... èëè ñûãðàë. à ïðèäóìûâàòü, àíàëèçèðîâàòü è îáúÿñíÿòü - ýòî êàê ðàç ñ ìîçãàìè, äà. |
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>>áåç ìîçãîâ.. >ïåðåïóòàë. áåç ìîçãîâ - ýòî ïîâòîðÿòü òî, ÷òî êòî-òî ñêàçàë.... èëè ñûãðàë. >à ïðèäóìûâàòü, àíàëèçèðîâàòü è îáúÿñíÿòü - ýòî êàê ðàç ñ ìîçãàìè, äà. è ÷òî æ òû òàêîå ïðèäóìàë, èëè îáúÿñíèë, èëè ïðîàíàëèçèðîâàë? â ýòîé íàøåé òåìå.... ÿ îçâó÷èë âîïðîñ ñ Ýâèäåñàìè è ñ ýòèì Òîíè... ÿ ñêàçàë, ÷òî ëè÷íî ìíå êàáåëü Òîíè íðàâèòñÿ - ÿ ñðàâíèâàë ñ äðóãèìè, â òåõíè÷åñêîì ïëàíå ýòîãî êàáåëÿ ÿ ïðèâ¸ë ñëîâà Òîíè... ïîòîìó, ÷òî ÿ ñàì íå ó÷îíûé è íå ôèçèê - ìíå ýòî íàõ íå íàäî âîçèòüñÿ ñ ìèêðîñêîïàìè... Òû æå áåçîñíîâàòåëüíî ñòàë óòâåðæäàòü, ÷òî ÿ ãîíþ è òðîëëþ...  èòîãå, èç âñåõ çäåñü ïðèñóòñòâóþùèõ, òîëüêî Sir FlyingV íå ñòàë òóïî äî êîíöà ñïîðèòü(êàê âû âñå), à ñäåëàë ðàçóìíîå äâèæåíèå - âçÿë è íàïèñàë ïèñüìî ýòîìó Òîíè, è òîò åìó âñ¸ ïîäòâåðäèë ... ...ãäå æå òâîè ìîçãè? (â ýòîé òåìå â ÷àñòíîñòè)...ïî÷åìó òû íå íàïèñàë ïèñüìî?
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>âçÿë è íàïèñàë ïèñüìî ýòîìó Òîíè, è òîò åìó âñ¸ ïîäòâåðäèë ... ...ïîäòâåðäèë ÷òî? ×òî "åìó êàæåòñÿ..."? |
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>>âçÿë è íàïèñàë ïèñüìî ýòîìó Òîíè, è òîò åìó âñ¸ ïîäòâåðäèë ... >...ïîäòâåðäèë ÷òî? ×òî "åìó êàæåòñÿ..."? ïîäòâåðäèë òî, ÷òî îí(è íå òîëüêî îí îäèí) îáíàðóæèë "íåêîå ñâîéñòâî êàáåëÿ" ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ... à òàê æå - òåì ñàìûì ïîäòâåðäèë òî, ÷òî ÿ íå ãíàë è íå òðîëëèë, êîãäà ÿ ïðèâîäèë çäåñü åãî ñëîâà... |
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ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ÿ òîæå òàêèõ ÷óäî ñâîéñòâ ìîãó îòêîïàòü.... óõ   
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>ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ÿ òîæå òàêèõ ÷óäî ñâîéñòâ ìîãó îòêîïàòü.... óõ à ñìîæåøü ëè òû íà ýòîì ñäåëàòü áóèçíåññ?
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>è ÷òî æ òû òàêîå ïðèäóìàë, èëè îáúÿñíèë, èëè ïðîàíàëèçèðîâàë? ß îáúÿñíèë, ÷òî, êàê è â êàêîé ñòåïåíè âîîáùå ìîæåò âëèÿòü íà ñâîéñòâà øíóðà. >â ýòîé íàøåé òåìå.... ÿ îçâó÷èë âîïðîñ ñ Ýâèäåñàìè è ñ ýòèì Òîíè... ÿ ñêàçàë, ÷òî ëè÷íî ìíå êàáåëü Òîíè íðàâèòñÿ - ÿ ñðàâíèâàë ñ äðóãèìè, â òåõíè÷åñêîì ïëàíå ýòîãî êàáåëÿ ÿ ïðèâ¸ë ñëîâà Òîíè... ìîëîäåö. >Òû æå áåçîñíîâàòåëüíî ñòàë óòâåðæäàòü, ÷òî ÿ ãîíþ è òðîëëþ... Ïðî òðîëëåé ðàçãîâîð çàâåë òû, à íå ÿ. Òû æå çàâåë ðàçãîâîð ïðî íèêóäûøíóþ íàóêó â Ðîññèè. Ýòî ãîí. Íàóêà âåçäå îäèíàêîâàÿ. Òåõíèêà ðàçíàÿ, íî ýòî ðåøàåòñÿ îáúåäèíåíèåì óñèëèé. Ìåæäóíàðîäíûì, â òîì ÷èñëå.  ïðèâåäåííîé òîáîé âûäåðæêå íå áûëî íè÷åãî, ÷òî ãîâîðèëî áû î çâóêå. Òîíè ýòîò âîïðîñ îáîøåë, à òû ïðèïîäíåñ ýòî êàê äîêàçàòåëüñòâî ñâîèõ ñëîâ. Õîðîøî, ýòî íå ãîí. Ýòî íåâåðíàÿ èíòåðïðåòàöèÿ. ß îá ýòîì ñêàçàë. ×òî íå òàê? Òî, ÷òî Òîíè äåéñòâèòåëüíî òàê ñ÷èòàåò (èëè äåëàåò âèä, íåâàæíî), ìû óçíàëè òîëüêî èç åãî ïèñüìà. Ýòî áûëî ïîçæå, è ýòî óæå ìîæíî îáñóæäàòü.  èòîãå, ñïîð áûë íà ïóñòîì ìåñòå. Òû ïåðåñêàçûâàåøü ñëîâà Òîíè â ñâîåé èíòåðïðåòàöèè, ÿ ñïðàøèâàþ, ïðîâåðÿë ëè òû? Òû íå ïðîâåðÿë, ïîòîìó ÷òî è òàê âñ¸ õîðîøî. Âñ¸. Íà ýòîì ìîæíî îñòàíîâèòüñÿ (è ìû îñòàíîâèëèñü, åñëè òû âñïîìíèøü). >...ãäå æå òâîè ìîçãè? (â ýòîé òåìå â ÷àñòíîñòè)...ïî÷åìó òû íå íàïèñàë ïèñüìî? ß îæèäàë îòâåò, êîòîðûé áûë ïîëó÷åí. ß íå äóìàþ, ÷òî Òîíè ìîæåò ñêàçàòü ÷òî-òî íîâîå äëÿ ìåíÿ.
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Íå íàäî ïðîñòî òàê ãíàòü íà ôóíäîìåíòàëüíóþ íàóêó â Ðîññèè, íå èìåÿ î íåé îñîáîãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ Åñëè êîìó-òî íàñòîëüêî èíòåðåñíî, ÷òî òàì âíóòðè, ÿ îäíîçíà÷íî ïðåäëîæèë ïîñìîòðåòü ñòðóêòóðó ýòîé íàïðàâëåííóþ ìåäè íà ëó÷øåì â ìèðå îáîðóäîâàíèè, âîçìîæíî, â ñàìûõ êðóòûõ ëàáîðàòîðèÿõ, òàêîãî Òîíè, äà è ñóùåñòâåííîé ÷àñòè ó÷åíûõ â ìèðå è íå ñíèëîñü - ÿ äàþ ãàðàíòèþ, íó è è ñ ïîìîùüþ õîðîøèõ ó÷åíûõ Ïðàâäà âñòàíåò âîïðîñ îá èíòåðïðåòàöèè äàííûõ, íî ýòî óæå ñîâñåì äðóãîå äåëî è äðóãèå ýêñïåðèìåíòû
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Yammi , òû ìîæåøü ýòî îðãàíèçîâàòü? Íó ÷åðêíè Òîíè, ïóñòü êàáåëåé ïðèñûëàåò, òû ñ ó÷îíûìè çàòåñòèøü è ïîñìîòðèì
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Íó, ïèñàòü íå áóäó, íî åñëè áóäó ïîêóïàòü ñåáå Evidence - êóñî÷åê îòðåæó ðàäè èíòåðåñà
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Ëè÷íî ÿ âîîáùå íè ñ êåì íå ñïîðèë .... Î ÷¸ì ñïîðèòü-òî? Î òîì, ÷òî ìíå ýòîò êàáåëü íðàâèòñÿ?? ... èëè ñïîðèòü î òåõ ìíîþ ïðèâåäåíûõ ñëîâàõ Òîíè?? Ýòî âû ïûòàëèñü ÷òî-òî îïðîâåðãíóòü - ïåðåñêàçàííûå ìíîþ ñëîâà Òîíè. ß ëèøü ñêàçàë, ÷òî ìíå ýòîò êàáåëü íðàâèòñÿ ïî çâóêó - è ìíå ïîõ âñå ìèêðîñêîïû è âñå íàóêè âìåñòå âçÿòûå... ÿ íå ó÷¸íûé, ÿ - ìóçûêàíò... ... åñëè êîìó íàäî íàó÷íî äîêàïûâàòüñÿ - äîêàïûâàéòåñü, ïèøèòå ïðîèçâîäèòåëþ(Òîíè), èññëåäóéòå êàáåëü ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì, ñðàâíèâàéòå ñ äðóãèìè êàáåëÿìè... äåëàéòå ÷òî-òî -- à ÍÅ òóïî ïèöäàáîëüòå íà ôîðóìå ñ âàøèìè ñîìíåíèÿìè è îïðîâåðæåíèÿìè... ...è òîëüêî îäèí Sir FlyingV âñ¸ ïðàâèëüíî ñäåëàë - íàïèñàë ïèñüìî àâòîðó(Òîíè) òåõ ñëîâ, íà êîòîðûå ññûëàëñÿ ÿ â ñàìîì íà÷àëå òåìû... âñ¸... |
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>Íó, ïèñàòü íå áóäó, íî åñëè áóäó ïîêóïàòü ñåáå Evidence - êóñî÷åê îòðåæó ðàäè èíòåðåñà Yammi , ñìîòðè õèòðåå - ÿ òàê ïîíÿë èç ïèñüìà, ÷òî åìó òîæå èíòåðåñíî ïî÷åìó ýòîò ýôôåêò íàáëþäàåòñÿ, â âûÿñíåíèè ïðè÷èí, îí òàùåìòà òîæå çàèíòåðåñîâàí. Åñëè òû ñìîæåøü åìó ïðåäëîæèòü ïîäîáíîå èññëåäîâàíèå, òî äóìàþ áåç ïðîôèòà â âèäå ïàðû êàáåëåé íå îñòàíåøüñÿ
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>Åñëè òû ñìîæåøü åìó ïðåäëîæèòü ïîäîáíîå èññëåäîâàíèå, òî äóìàþ áåç ïðîôèòà â âèäå ïàðû êàáåëåé íå îñòàíåøüñÿ øàðîâèêè âû, ïîñîíû.... ëþáèòå íàøàðó ïðîêàòèòüñÿ.... à èñòèíà âàì è íà*óé íå íóæíà...
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>øàðîâèêè âû, ïîñîíû.... ëþáèòå íàøàðó ïðîêàòèòüñÿ.... à èñòèíà âàì è íà*óé íå íóæíà... îðãàíèçîâàòü èññëåäîâàíèå â õîðîøåé íàó÷íîé ëàáîðàòîðèè ýòî íèôèãà íå íà øàðó
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>Íå íàäî ïðîñòî òàê ãíàòü íà ôóíäîìåíòàëüíóþ íàóêó â Ðîññèè, íå èìåÿ î íåé îñîáîãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ íà íàóêó íèêòî è íå ãîíèò.... òîëüêî, â îòëè÷èè îò ó÷îíûõ â ðîññèè, òàì ëþäè íå òîëüêî ðàçãëàãîëüñòâóþò, íî è ðåàëüíî ïðàêòè÷åñêè ÷òî-òî äåëàþò... à â ðîññèè òîëüêî îáîðîíêà.... è ãàç ñ íåôòüþ ïîêà åù¸ åñòü... à òàê - ìû âïåðåäè ïëàíåòû âñåé... 
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Äà ÿ èòàê èõ êóïëþ, åñëè çàõî÷ó - íå ïðîáëåìà. Ïðîáëåìà â äðóãîì: ïîñìîòðåòü ÿ ìîãó, à èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü íåò: ÿ æå íå ó÷åíûé, ÿ äèðåêòîð ïî ìàðêåòèíãó êîìïàíèè, êîòîðàÿ ïðîèçâîäèò ëó÷øèå â ìèðå ìèêðîñêîïû è ïîñòàâëÿåò èõ â âåäóùèå çàðóáåæíûå è ðîññèéñêèå íàó÷íûå èíñòèòóòû. Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, ÿ ìîãó ïîïðîñèòü êîãî òî èç ó÷åíûõ ìàòåðèàëîâåäîâ ïîñìîòðåòü íà êàáåëü ïîä ìèêðîñêîïàìè (ýëåêòðîííûìè, ñêàíèðóþùèìè, îïòè÷åñêèìè è êîíôîêàëüíûìè, àòîìíî - ñèëîâûìè), ñäåëàòü íåñêîëüêî ñíèìêîâ âûñîêîãî ðàçðåøåíèÿ, ïîñòðîèòü 3D ìîäåëü ìàòåðèàëà. À âîò äàëüøå ÷òî? íó ïîëó÷èì ìû íåñêîëüêî ôîòî çåðåí õîðîøåãî êà÷åñòâà, âîçìîæíî ñî ñìåùåíèåì (êàáåëü òî òÿíóëè è êàòàëè), ìîæåì ñðàâíèòü ÷èñòîòó ìåäè îäíîãî êàáåëÿ ñ äðóãèì, âûäåëèòü âêðàïëåíèÿ, åñëè ïîéìåì ÷òî - òî Êðîìå òîãî, åùå âàæíî, êàê áóäåò ïîëó÷àòüñÿ èññëåäóåìàÿ ïîâåðõíîñòü - ÷åì ñðåç äåëàòü, ëåçâèåì ñòðóæêè êîðÿáàòü? À êàê äàëüøå èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü ðåçóëüòàòû? Êàê ýòî îòðàçèòñÿ íà íàïðàâëåííîñòè è ïðîâîäèìîñòè êàáåëÿ? òóò íóæåí ñåðüåçíûé ôèçèêî-ýëåêòðîòåõíè÷åñêèé ýêñïåðèìåíò íà îáîðóäîâàíèè âûñîêîãî óðîâíÿ ñðîäíè òîìó, íà êîòîðûé âûøå áûëà ññûëêà Åñëè åãî ñàìîìó ñäåëàòü, òî ìîæíî âïîëíå êàíäèäàòñêóþ çàùèòèòü ïî ôèçèêå Òàê ïîáàëîâàòüñÿ ìîæíî, ïîñìîòðåòü è ñ óìíûì âèäîì ïîîáñóæäàòü ïîòîì
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Íàóêà ó íàñ íåïëîõàÿ, à âîò ïðàêòè÷åñêàÿ êîíâåðñèÿ åå â ïðîìûøëåííîñòü - íèêàêóùàÿ
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>òîëüêî, â îòëè÷èè îò ó÷îíûõ â ðîññèè, òàì ëþäè íå òîëüêî ðàçãëàãîëüñòâóþò, íî è ðåàëüíî ïðàêòè÷åñêè ÷òî-òî äåëàþò... >à â ðîññèè òîëüêî îáîðîíêà.... Íàîáîðîò êàê ðàç. Îáîðîíêà â Ðîññèÿ ñåé÷àñ â æîïå, à íàøè ó÷åíûå î÷åíü äàæå êîòèðóþòñÿ â ìèðîâîì ìàñøòàáå >òóò íóæåí ñåðüåçíûé ôèçèêî-ýëåêòðîòåõíè÷åñêèé ýêñïåðèìåíò íà îáîðóäîâàíèè âûñîêîãî óðîâíÿ ñðîäíè òîìó, íà êîòîðûé âûøå áûëà ññûëêà Ó ìåíÿ åñòü äîñòóï ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ, íî âîñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ èì ÿ ñìîãó ãäå-òî ÷åðåç ïîëãîäà òîëüêî. |
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> ÿ äèðåêòîð ïî ìàðêåòèíãó êîìïàíèè , êîòîðàÿ ïðîèçâîäèò ëó÷øèå â ìèðå ìèêðîñêîïû è ïîñòàâëÿåò èõ â âåäóùèå çàðóáåæíûå è ðîññèéñêèå íàó÷íûå èíñòèòóòû. äèðåêòîð ïî ìàðêåòèíãó êîìïàíèè (êàê íàïðÿìóþ çàèíòåðåñîâàííîå ëèöî) íå ìîæåò óòâåðæäàòü îáðàòíîå ....
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>äèðåêòîð ïî ìàðêåòèíãó êîìïàíèè (êàê íàïðÿìóþ çàèíòåðåñîâàííîå ëèöî) íå ìîæåò óòâåðæäàòü îáðàòíîå .... ýòî ïðàâäà îñîáåííî, åñëè êîìïàíèÿ Carl Zeiss
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>>òîëüêî, â îòëè÷èè îò ó÷îíûõ â ðîññèè, òàì ëþäè íå òîëüêî ðàçãëàãîëüñòâóþò, íî è ðåàëüíî ïðàêòè÷åñêè ÷òî-òî äåëàþò... >>à â ðîññèè òîëüêî îáîðîíêà.... >Íàîáîðîò êàê ðàç. Îáîðîíêà â Ðîññèÿ ñåé÷àñ â æîïå, òóò òû ïðàâ.... â ðîññèè ùàñ âñ¸ â æîïå... >à íàøè ó÷åíûå î÷åíü äàæå êîòèðóþòñÿ â ìèðîâîì ìàñøòàáå ñ ýòèì íèêòî è íå ñïîðèò... ìîæåò ýòîò ñàìûé Òîíè - âûõîäåö èç ðîññèè - êòî çíàåò.. >>òóò íóæåí ñåðüåçíûé ôèçèêî-ýëåêòðîòåõíè÷åñêèé ýêñïåðèìåíò íà îáîðóäîâàíèè âûñîêîãî óðîâíÿ ñðîäíè òîìó, íà êîòîðûé âûøå áûëà ññûëêà >Ó ìåíÿ åñòü äîñòóï ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ, íî âîñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ èì ÿ ñìîãó ãäå-òî ÷åðåç ïîëãîäà òîëüêî. òåáÿ íå äîïóñòÿò ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ... òû âñ¸ òàì ïîëàìàåøü...
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>> ÿ äèðåêòîð ïî ìàðêåòèíãó êîìïàíèè , êîòîðàÿ ïðîèçâîäèò ëó÷øèå â ìèðå ìèêðîñêîïû Âû ñ Òîíè íàéä¸òå îáùèé ÿçûê >Ó ìåíÿ åñòü äîñòóï ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ, íî âîñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ èì ÿ ñìîãó ãäå-òî ÷åðåç ïîëãîäà òîëüêî. áûëî áû î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî!
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>îñîáåííî, åñëè êîìïàíèÿ Carl Zeiss ýòî êîòîðûå îáúåêòèâû äëÿ ìîáèë äåëàþò? >òåáÿ íå äîïóñòÿò ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ... òû âñ¸ òàì ïîëàìàåøü... åùå êàê äîïóñòÿò. ÿ òàì àâòîðèòåò
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>>òåáÿ íå äîïóñòÿò ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ... òû âñ¸ òàì ïîëàìàåøü... >åùå êàê äîïóñòÿò. ÿ òàì àâòîðèòåò àãà.... òàêîé æå àâòîðèòåò, êàê è çäåñü...
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Ñåé÷àñ ëàáîðàòîðèè â íàøèõ âåäóùèõ óíèâåðñèòåòàõ âûãëÿäÿò êàê-òî âîò òàê: Íå âî âñåõ ñòðàíàõ òàêîå åñòü. |
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Yammi , òàì ÿ âèæó, êó÷à êàáåëåé. Îíè íàïðàâëåííûå?
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>Ñåé÷àñ ëàáîðàòîðèè â íàøèõ âåäóùèõ óíèâåðñèòåòàõ âûãëÿäÿò êàê-òî âîò òàê: Íå âî âñåõ ñòðàíàõ òàêîå åñòü. ôîòêè õîðîøèå... ... íî ãäå íàïèñàíî, ÷òî ýòî "â âàøèõ ëàáîðàòîðèÿõ" îíî òàê âûãëÿäèò?? ... ïî ýòèì ôîòêàì íå îïðåäåëèøü..
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>>>òåáÿ íå äîïóñòÿò ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ... òû âñ¸ òàì ïîëàìàåøü... >>åùå êàê äîïóñòÿò. ÿ òàì àâòîðèòåò > àãà.... òàêîé æå àâòîðèòåò, êàê è çäåñü... ææîøü, ##### 
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>>>>òåáÿ íå äîïóñòÿò ê òàêîìó îáîðóäîâàíèþ... òû âñ¸ òàì ïîëàìàåøü... >>>åùå êàê äîïóñòÿò. ÿ òàì àâòîðèòåò >> àãà.... òàêîé æå àâòîðèòåò, êàê è çäåñü... >ææîøü, ##### íåò, ...ïîäæèãàþ ....
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Íà âòîðîé ôîòêå Àëåêñàíä Âàñèëüåâ? èññëåäóåò òêàíü äëÿ íîâîãî ìîäíîãî ïðèêèäà
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>Íà âòîðîé ôîòêå Àëåêñàíä Âàñèëüåâ? íà Òàðàíòèíî ïîõîæ ñòîïóäîâî, òðåøàê êàêîé-òî ñíèìàþò. |
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>... íî ãäå íàïèñàíî, ÷òî ýòî "â âàøèõ ëàáîðàòîðèÿõ" îíî òàê âûãëÿäèò?? ... >ïî ýòèì ôîòêàì íå îïðåäåëèøü.. Íó è íå íàäî, çà÷åì íàì? íà ñàìîì äåëå - ýòî âñå î÷åíü êðóòî è ïîçâîëÿåò ïðè æåëàíèè ïîíÿòü ñòðóêòóðó è ìåõàíè÷åñêèå ñâîéñòâà øíóðà Evidence â äâà ñ÷åòà (åñëè ðóêè íå èç ïîïû ðàñòóò, êîíå÷íî è ãîëîâà íà ïëå÷àõ åñòü)
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âåñåëàÿ íàó÷íî ïîçíàâàòåëüíàÿ òåìà 
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> è ïîçâîëÿåò ïðè æåëàíèè ïîíÿòü ñòðóêòóðó è ìåõàíè÷åñêèå ñâîéñòâà øíóðà Evidence â äâà ñ÷åòà ( åñëè ðóêè íå èç ïîïû ðàñòóò, êîíå÷íî è ãîëîâà íà ïëå÷àõ åñòü) òàê, ¸ïò-òü, -- â ýòîì-òî âñ¸ è äåëî.... ... åñëè....åñëè.... åñëè áû ó ìîåé áàáóøêè áûë *óé, îíà áûëà áû ìîèì äåäóøêîé....
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>âåñåëàÿ íàó÷íî ïîçíàâàòåëüíàÿ òåìà óéäè, ìàëü÷èê... íå ìåøàé (ñ)
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Êîðî÷å, íåîáõîäèìî ïðîâåñòè ñåðèþ ýêñïåðèìåíòîâ. satix , ãîòîâü îáîðóäîâàíèå 
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>satix , ãîòîâü îáîðóäîâàíèå åãî óæå óâîëèëè ... îí ñ óòðà óæå ïîäìåòàåò óëèöû ñòîëèöû ....
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satix , íó êàê, ÷èñòîòà íà óëèöàõ ñòîëèöû? ...âñ¸ ïîäì¸ë?? ó ìåíÿ âî äâîðå ïëîõî âûìåë...
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>ó ìåíÿ âî äâîðå ïëîõî âûìåë... ó òåáÿ äâîð â çàìêàäüå ìåòè ñàì
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>>ó ìåíÿ âî äâîðå ïëîõî âûìåë... >ó òåáÿ äâîð â çàìêàäüå ìåòè ñàì íèôèãà - íè â êàêîì íå â çàìêàäúå  satix , áûñòðî âçÿë âåíèê è áûñòðî ïðèáåæàë è áûñòðî âñ¸ ïîäì¸ë
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Telecaster - Ëó÷øàÿ ãèòàðà íà ñâåòå
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Ïàöàíû, êèíüòå ññûëîê íà âàøè ïåñíè? À òî òàê àêòèâíî íàïðàâëåííîñòü êàáåëåé îáñóæäàåòå, ìåäü òàì ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì. íå èíà÷å êàê ñ òàêèì ïîäõîäîì - íàñòîÿùèå õèòû ïèøèòå, õîòÿ áû ïî çâóêó 
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STEREO@MONO™ , ïðîäîëæàé ñèäåòü â ãðÿçè
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>STEREO@MONO™ , ïðîäîëæàé ñèäåòü â ãðÿçè òàäæèêè âñ¸ óæå óáðàëè îò òåáÿ äîæä¸øüñÿ....  òû - íè êàáåëü ïðîòåñòèðîâàòü íå ìîæåøü, íè óëèöó ïîäìåñòè íå ìîæåøü, íè íà ãèòàðå ïåñíÿê ñëàáàòü, íè íà ôîðóìå òîëêîâîå ÷òî-òî íàïèñàòü.... êîðî÷å -- íåó÷ ïîëíûé....
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>Ïàöàíû, êèíüòå ññûëîê íà âàøè ïåñíè? ñêèíüòå åìó.... øîá ÿ òóò ñàìîïèàðîì íå çàíèìàëñÿ ...
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STEREO@MONO™ , êòî áû ãîâîðèë
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satix ,
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òàê è õîäè
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ïîñîíû, ñîéäèòåñü óæå â ðåàëå è çàáóõàéòå êòî ïåðâûé óïàë - òîò è ïðîèãðàë |
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>ïîñîíû, ñîéäèòåñü óæå â ðåàëå è çàáóõàéòå >êòî ïåðâûé óïàë - òîò è ïðîèãðàë ïîëîæèëè âñå âåíèêè è ãèòàðû è â áàð
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>>ïîñîíû, ñîéäèòåñü óæå â ðåàëå è çàáóõàéòå >>êòî ïåðâûé óïàë - òîò è ïðîèãðàë > >ïîëîæèëè âñå âåíèêè è ãèòàðû è â áàð ëàäû .... ïëàòèòü áóäåò satix çà âñ¸
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STEREO@MONO™ , âñ¸ åùå â ïîèñêàõ ñîòêè?
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>STEREO@MONO™ , âñ¸ åùå â ïîèñêàõ ñîòêè? ñ ÷åãî òû âçÿë? ñ "êàïóñòîé" ïðîáëåì íåò....  äåëî ïðèíöèïà...
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>äåëî ïðèíöèïà... õàëÿâû íå áóäåò 
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>>äåëî ïðèíöèïà... >õàëÿâû íå áóäåò õàëÿâà íèêîìó è íàõ íå íóæíà íå íà òîãî íàïàë ...
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>íå íà òîãî íàïàë ...
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satix , òàäà --- ñâîáîäåí.... èäè ãîòîâüñÿ -- áóäåøü àìåðèêîöêèé êàáåëü ïîä ìèêðîñêîïîì ñìîòðåòü - íàïðàâëåíèå èñêàòü
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êòî á ñîìíåâàëñÿ 
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ÍÓÓÓ!!?? ãäå ïåñíè òî? õèòû, çàïèñàííûå ñ ïîìîùüþ äîðîãèõ íàïðàâëåííûõ êàáåëåé ïî 200 áàêñîâ çà 100 ãðàìì?
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MILLIKA , òóò ðå÷ü âîîáùå íå î òîì êàê òû ìîã çàìåòèòü, ýòî äàæå íå ãèòàðíûé ôîðóì, à ýôôåêòû/êîìáèêè
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>ÍÓÓÓ!!?? ãäå ïåñíè òî? õèòû, çàïèñàííûå ñ ïîìîùüþ äîðîãèõ íàïðàâëåííûõ êàáåëåé ïî 200 áàêñîâ çà 100 ãðàìì? Âñ¸, ðåáçÿ, êîìèññèÿ íàãðÿíóëà
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>ÍÓÓÓ!!?? ãäå ïåñíè òî? õèòû, çàïèñàííûå ñ ïîìîùüþ äîðîãèõ íàïðàâëåííûõ êàáåëåé ïî 200 áàêñîâ çà 100 ãðàìì? íàø îòâåò ÷åìáåðëåíó  
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- êñòàòå ýòîò ñìàéë ÿ ïðåäëîæèë àäìèíàì äîáàâèòü 
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>- êñòàòå ýòîò ñìàéë ÿ ïðåäëîæèë àäìèíàì äîáàâèòü î÷åíü ïîëåçíûé è ñîäåðæàòåëüíûé ñìàéë òåáå çà ýòî -- 
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The Man From , òû ðàçâå íå çíàë, ÷òî âñå êàáåëè íàïðàâëåííûå, íàíîñòðóêòóðû ìåäè âûçûâàþò äèîäíûé ýôôåêò, îïûòíûé àóäèîôèë ñëûøèò ðàçíèöó â çâóêå àóäèîñèñòåìû, åñëè ïåðåâåðíóòü âèëêó â ðîçåòêå? | |
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