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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 12.09.2007 20:22 
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Âåíñêèé Ñèìôîíè÷åñêèé, Êëàâà, Ñòðóíû, Ñâÿçêè ( òîæå Áðóíàí-Äæè)

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>>â ýòîì ïðèìåðå ãîëîñîâåäåíèå ñîâåðøåííûìè êîíñîíàíñàìè... ýòî îøèáêà íóìåð ÐÀÇ!!! ýòîãî íåëüçÿ äåëàòü...
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>Ïðàâèëüíî!!! Ïîýòîìó ÿ ïðåïîäàþ äæàçîâóþ ãàðìîíèþ â âûñøåì ó÷åáíîì çàâåäåíèè!

â êàêîì? è êàêîå ñàìè çàêàí÷èâàëè? :ouch:
íî, ýòî íåçâó÷èò :4: è íåëüçÿ âåñòè âñå ãîëîñà â îäíîì íàïðàâëåíèè êàê ýòî ñäåëàííî â ïîñëåäíåì òàÃòå :idea2:
Ìàíèÿ âåëè÷èÿ, Ãàëþöèîíàöèè, Íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûå âñïûøêè ýìîöèé...
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 11:45 

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2 Charly-Aestheti
 ìîåì ïðèìåðå,ïîìèìî îïðåäåëåííîãî òèïà ãîëîñîâåäåíèÿ(êîòîðîå Âàì âèäíî íå çíàêîìî-ãåòåðîôîíè÷åñêîãî),ñîáëþäåí åùå ïðèíöèï âåäåíèÿ äèññîíàíòíîñòè ñîçâó÷èé.Íà ðóññêîì ÿçûêå î ñîîòíîøåíèÿõ ìåðû äèññîíàíòíîñòè ñîçâó÷èé ìîæíî ïðî÷åñòü â ðàáîòå Þ.Êîíà ÎÁ ÎÄÍÎÌ ÑÂÎÉÑÒÂÅ ÀÒÎÍÀËÜÍÎÉ ÂÅÐÒÈÊÀËÈ...;êðîìå òîãî â êíèãå À. Ðîãà÷åâà ÑÈÑÒÅÌÍÛÉ ÊÓÐÑ ÃÀÐÌÎÍÈÈ ÄÆÀÇÀ.Íà àíãëèéñêîì ÿçûêå-êóðñ Õåðáà Ïîìåðîÿ LINE WRITTIG. Âêðàòöå î ïðèìåðå:ñðåäè 4-õ àêêîðäîâ íàèáîëåå äèññîíàíòíûé òðåòèé(ðàçìåð äèññîíàíòíîñòè-5óñëîâíûõ åäèíèö),ïåðâûé è âòîðîé ñîäåðæàò ïî 2 óñë. åäèíèöû,çàêëþ÷èòåëüíûé-2,5óñë. åä.

Ìåðà äèññîíàíòíîñòè â óñëîâíûõ åäèíèöàõ:

1 åä.-áîëüøàÿ ñåêóíäà,áîëüøàÿ íîíà,ìàëàÿ ñåïòèìà( Secondary Dissonance ïî Ïîìåðîþ)
0,5 åä. - òðèòîí
2 åä. -ìàëàÿ ñåêóíäà,ìàëàÿ íîíà,áîëüøàÿ ñåïòèìà ( Primary Dissonance ïî Ïîìåðîþ)
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 12:58 

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(Ïðîäîëæåíèå)

 êëàññè÷åñêîé 4-õ àêêîðäîâîé êàäåíöèè T-S-D7-T ñîáëþäàåòñÿ òîò æå ïðèíöèï,è íå óâåðåí ÷òî îñîçíàííî:êóëüìèíàöèÿ íåóñòîé÷èâîñòè è äèññîíàíòíîñòè ïðèõîäèòñÿ íà òðåòèé àêêîððä â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ ïðàâèëîì çîëîòîãî ñå÷åíèÿ Ôèáîíà÷÷è.
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 19:24 
Ìîñêâà
Âåíñêèé Ñèìôîíè÷åñêèé, Êëàâà, Ñòðóíû, Ñâÿçêè ( òîæå Áðóíàí-Äæè)

ûûûû... âîáùåì òî ÷òî òî ÷èòàë î äðóãèõ ïðèíöûïàõ ãîëîñîâåäåíèÿ... íî îñîáåííî íåâäàâàëñÿ â ïîäðîáíîñòè... âîçìîæíî ÷òî è çíàêîìî íî, íåèñïîëüçóåòüñÿ... äàæå íåïîïîìíþ òàêîé òåðìèí "ãåòåðîôîíè÷åñêèé"...

ûûûû... ìåðà äèñîíàíòíîñòè ýòî æåñòü...

çîëîòîå ñå÷åíèå â êëàññè÷åñêîé êàäåíöè... ýòî íà ìîé âçãëÿä çà óøè... èáî äîìèíàíòñåïòàêîðä òàì èç äðóãèõ ñîîáðàæåíèé...
Ìàíèÿ âåëè÷èÿ, Ãàëþöèîíàöèè, Íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûå âñïûøêè ýìîöèé...
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 21:22 

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Charly-Aestheti,òû äåéñòâèòåëüíî îñòàâèë 7023 òàêèõ ñîîáùåíèé? :lol:
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 21:23 

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7024?
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 21:25 
Ìîñêâà
Âåíñêèé Ñèìôîíè÷åñêèé, Êëàâà, Ñòðóíû, Ñâÿçêè ( òîæå Áðóíàí-Äæè)

ýòî 7025 :sm1:

íà ñàìîì åëå âäâîå áîëüøå... çàðåãèëñÿ âñåãî ãîä íàçàä :gigi:

à ÷òî?
Ìàíèÿ âåëè÷èÿ, Ãàëþöèîíàöèè, Íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûå âñïûøêè ýìîöèé...
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 21:37 
Ìîñêâà
Âåíñêèé Ñèìôîíè÷åñêèé, Êëàâà, Ñòðóíû, Ñâÿçêè ( òîæå Áðóíàí-Äæè)

è òàêèõ ýòî êàêèõ?
Ìàíèÿ âåëè÷èÿ, Ãàëþöèîíàöèè, Íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûå âñïûøêè ýìîöèé...
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 21:38 

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:sm1:
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 21:42 
Ìîñêâà
Âåíñêèé Ñèìôîíè÷åñêèé, Êëàâà, Ñòðóíû, Ñâÿçêè ( òîæå Áðóíàí-Äæè)

:hmm:
Ìàíèÿ âåëè÷èÿ, Ãàëþöèîíàöèè, Íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûå âñïûøêè ýìîöèé...
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 22:56 



NP, ñêàæèòå, à (Alt), íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî, ýòî àëüòåðèðîâàííàÿ 5-ÿ èëè 9-ÿ ñòóïåíü. Êîãäà ïèøåòñÿ G7(Alt), êàêóþ ïîâûøàòü?
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 23:00 

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>NP, ñêàæèòå, à (Alt), íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî, ýòî àëüòåðèðîâàííàÿ 5-ÿ èëè 9-ÿ ñòóïåíü. Êîãäà ïèøåòñÿ G7(Alt), êàêóþ ïîâûøàòü?

G7/b9/#9/#11(b5)/b13(#5).
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Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2007 23:05 



>>NP, ñêàæèòå, à (Alt), íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî, ýòî àëüòåðèðîâàííàÿ 5-ÿ èëè 9-ÿ ñòóïåíü. Êîãäà ïèøåòñÿ G7(Alt), êàêóþ ïîâûøàòü?
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>G7/b9/#9/#11(b5)/b13(#5).

Áëàãîä
àðþ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: voicings in fourths
Âðåìÿ: 03.10.2007 22:23 



NP, âûñëàë Âàì íà ïî÷òó âîïðîñ. :)
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!