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Äèñêóññèè

Çàäàòü íîâóþ òåìó

Óâàæàåìûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè! Ïî ìíîãî÷èñëåííûì ïðîñüáàì ìû ñîçäàëè òðè ðàçäåëà äëÿ ñâîáîäíîãî îáùåíèÿ ìåæäó ïîñåòèòåëÿìè íàøåãî ôîðóìà, ðàçäåëèâ èõ ïî èíòåðåñàì.
Òóñîâêà ìóçûêàíòîâ - ìóçûêàëüíûå, îêîëîìóçûêàëüíûå òåìû è òåìû âñòðå÷/ìåðîïðèÿòèé ìóçûêàíòîâ.
Äèñêóññèè - ñåðü¸çíûå, íî íåìóçûêàëüíûå òåìû.


Âñå ñòðàíèöû:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Ïîñìîòðåòü âñþ òåìó
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Tchad
À/H2N3

>óêðû îâëîäåëè ôîòîøîïîì
>íå, ïîêà åù¸ òîëüêî ïýéíò îñâàèâàþò
äà âû ÷å, òàì ïî íèñïàäàþùåé, îíè ê íàñêàëüíûì ðèñóíêàì äâèæóòñÿ. Âåêòîð òî ïåðåìåñòèëñÿ. :oooi:
"How do you sleep at night, with the borrowed dreams from a broken past?"
Àâòîð
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Íåðåçèíîâêà
ïðåïàðèðîâàííàÿ ãèòàðà

>óêðû îâëîäåëè ôîòîøîïîì
>íå, ïîêà åù¸ òîëüêî ïýéíò îñâàèâàþò

ïîù¸ò ñîâð. óêðîâ íå çíàþ, íî ïåðüâûé ñîâåéòñêèé êîìïóòåð áûë ñîáðàí â Êûåâå â 1949-ì (ÝÂÌ Ëåáåäåâà)... à âàùå ðàíåå ÓÑÑÐ äàâàëà áîëüøîå êîë-âî ïðîãðàìì¸ðîâ - ïîìíèòñÿ: ìíîãèå äîñîâñêèå ðóñèôèöèðîâàííûå ïðîãðàììû áûëè àâòîðñòâà òîâàðèùåé èç Êèåâà, Äîíåöêà èëè Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêà. :da:
Àâòîð
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Ìîñêâà.


êðóòààààÿ ò¸òèùå (áëèæå ê êîíöó) -

http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1056336


...âñåõ çàõâà÷åííûõ ïëåííûõ ëóãàíñêîå ðóêîâîäñòâî ïëàíèðóåò ïåðåäàòü ðîäñòâåííèêàì.(ñ)

æýñòîêàñòè òèðàðèñòàô íåò ïðåäåëà! :oooi:
Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 00:02 
Ìîñêâà


"Åäóò â Ðîññèþ ê ðîäñòâåííèêàì-ãàñòàðáàéòåðàì" (ñ)

Ìåæ òåì áåæåíöåâ èç Óêðàèíû óæå ðàçìåùàþò â Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè, êîíêðåòíåå ïîä Âåðååé (Ðóçñêèé ðàéîí) è â Åãîðüåâñêå. Êòî-òî ñâîå ëè÷íî æèëüå ïðåäîñòàâëÿåò, äà÷è òàì èëè ê ñåáå â ñîæèòåëè áåðóò, òàêæå ìàññîâî ðàçìåùàþò ëþäåé â íåêîãäà ïóñòîâàâøèõ äåòñêèõ ëàãåðÿõ. ÇËÛÅ ÊÀÖÀÏÛ ÈÇ ÐÀØÊÈ ïîìîãàþò ëþäÿì èç Óêðàèíû îäåæäîé , åäîé, äåíüãàìè è äàþò êðûøó íàä ãîëîâîé.
Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 00:19 
Tchad
À/H2N3

÷åò ïîäóìàëîñü, â êàêèõ ãðàíèöàõ áóäåò ýòà íåçàëåæíîñòü, ãäå ìîæíî áóäåò ñðàêó(çàäíèöó) ïîêàçûâàòü çðèòåëÿì, ãäå ãðàíèöû ýòîãî âîëüåðà.
"How do you sleep at night, with the borrowed dreams from a broken past?"
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Óêðàèíà - 4
Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 00:23 
All you
need is love.

>÷åò ïîäóìàëîñü, â êàêèõ ãðàíèöàõ áóäåò ýòà íåçàëåæíîñòü, ãäå ìîæíî áóäåò ñðàêó(çàäíèöó) ïîêàçûâàòü çðèòåëÿì, ãäå ãðàíèöû ýòîãî âîëüåðà.

íó òàê çàáîð âûñîêèé ïîñòðîÿò è áóäóò åâðîïå ïîêàçûâàòü :4:
Ïîòîì ýòèõ äóðàêîâ ðàçûãðûâàþò â ìàéäàííûé ïîêåð, îáåùàÿ "âñå è ñðàçó". (ñ) Stop Âðåìÿ: 21.01.2014 23:09
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Îäèíöîâî
Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà

Ïîõîæå, òåìà ñåáÿ èçæèâàåò, èñõîäèò íà ïðîâîêàöèè è ðîçæèã. Ñîáûòèé íåò, îáñàñûâàåòñÿ ãðÿçü èç-ïîä íîãòåé...
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear your scream
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>Ïîõîæå, òåìà ñåáÿ èçæèâàåò, èñõîäèò íà ïðîâîêàöèè è ðîçæèã. Ñîáûòèé íåò, îáñàñûâàåòñÿ ãðÿçü èç-ïîä íîãòåé...
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Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 02:09 
Î÷åíü ïëîõîé ìîäåðàòîð


>áîìáÿò æèëûå êâàðòàëû ïàòàìóøòà òàì ïðÿ÷óòñÿ òåðàðèñòû

À ïî-òâîåìó, ïî÷åìó?
Ìîæåò, àìåðèêàíöû ïðèêàçàëè? Èëè ïðîñòî çëûå òàêèå?
Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 02:24 
Tchad
À/H2N3

>Ñîáûòèé íåò, îáñàñûâàåòñÿ ãðÿçü èç-ïîä íîãòåé...
âèäåî èç ïîä Ëóãàíñêà,ãðÿçü, óáèòàÿ áàáêà â êëî÷üÿ ëèùü âåäðî íåäîíåñåííûõ âèøåí. Ëåïïåð òû â ñâîåì óìå? Íèôèãà ñåáå ãðÿçü.
"How do you sleep at night, with the borrowed dreams from a broken past?"
Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 08:57 
Áàòàëüîí
Êîðã

Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Áàòàëüîí
Êîðã

Êàòÿ Òóðöåâà @Turtseva · 19 èþíÿ
@VRSoloviev @lifenews_ru êñòàòè, ñïðàøèâàþ ñåé÷àñ â Ýñòîíèè - âû ïðî ïîäæåã â Îäåññå ñëûøàëè ? Îòâåò - íåò. Ó íèõ äàæå íå áûëî íîâîñòåé
Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Áàòàëüîí
Êîðã

Äîñòîâåðêèí @dostoverkin · 18 èþíÿ
Ïîëèòèêè ÑØÀ,ñêâîçü ïàëüöû ñìîòðÿùèå íà íàïàäåíèÿ íà ïîñîëüñòâà,äîëæíû åùå ðàç âçãëÿíóòü íà ýòî ôîòî

Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 09:56 
Ìîñêâà


>Ïîõîæå, òåìà ñåáÿ èçæèâàåò, èñõîäèò íà ïðîâîêàöèè è ðîçæèã. Ñîáûòèé íåò, îáñàñûâàåòñÿ ãðÿçü èç-ïîä íîãòåé...

Íà ñàìîì äåëå, ýòî ïðîèçîøëî åùå ìåñÿöà òðè íàçàä.
Àâòîð
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Áàòàëüîí
Êîðã

Ïî èòîãàì ñòû÷êè ìàéäàóíîâ ñ ìàéäàóíàìè íà ìàéäàóíå âîçëå êîíñóëüñòâà ÐÔ àðåñòîâàíî ÷åòâåðî ìàéäàóíîâ, ó êîòîðûõ îáíàðóæåíû âçðûâ÷àòûå âåùåñòâà.
Âñåì ïðèÿòíîãî âå÷åðà, âûæèâøèì ìàéäàóíàì æåëàþ ïåðåæèòü íî÷ü, êòî ñóìååò.
Ç.Û. Êîíñóëüñòâî Ðîññèè â Îäåññå íè ðàçó íå ïîñòðàäàëî.




http://ivakin-alexey.livejournal.com/721816.html

È ïðîäîëæåíèå:

À áîìáó â÷åðà è ïðÿìü íàøëè...







Âñå ÷åòâåðî òåððîðèñòîâ óøëè â ãëóõóþ íåñîçíàíêó. Çà íèõ ïûòàåòñÿ äîãîâîðèòüñÿ ñ ìèëèöèåé äåïóòàò îò ÎÏà "Ñâîáîäà"

http://ivakin-alexey.livejournal.com/721973.html

Íî êàê ìû ñ âàìè çíàåì, íèêàêèõ òåððîðèñòîâ âíà Óêðàèíå íåò, îíè âñå íà Äîíáàññå â äåòñêèõ ñàäàõ è áîëüíèöàõ ïðÿ÷óòñÿ... èëè íà îãîðîäàõ âûøíþ ñîáèðàþò.
Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
Àâòîð
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Îäèíöîâî/Âèñáàäåí


http://novosti.dn.ua/details/227996/
 ÎÎÍ ïîäòâåðäèëè ïðè÷àñòíîñòü ñïåöñëóæá Ðîññèè ê ãèáåëè ëþäåé â Îäåññå 2 ìàÿ

"Îáíàðóæåíû äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïîäãîòîâêè áåñïîðÿäêîâ â ãîðîäå è ñîáûòèé â îäåññêîì Äîìå ïðîôñîþçîâ ðîññèéñêèìè ñïåöñëóæáàìè. Äîñòîâåðíî èçâåñòíî îá ó÷àñòèè äâóõ îôèöåðîâ Ãëàâíîãî ðàçâåäûâàòåëüíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ", - ãîâîðèòñÿ â ñîîáùåíèè îðãàíèçàöèè.
Ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî ïðèéòè ê Áîãó - âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî ãëóõîíåìîìó ñòàòü âåëèêèì êîìïîçèòîðîì.

Êîãäà ãîâîðÿò î “ðóññêîé ïîýçèè”, î åå “çîëîòîì” èëè “ñåðåáðÿíîì âåêå” – ìíå ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñìåøíî. “Ðóññêîé ïîýçèè” íåò, êàê íåò “ðóññêîãî ðîêà”.
Àâòîð
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6 ñòðóí

olirup , ÷¸, ïðÿì óäîñòîâåðåíèÿ íà ìåñòå òðàãåäèè ïîòåðÿëè?
Ïîñëå òîãî, êàê àìóð óøåë ïîïèñàòü çà óãîë, íåîáõîäèìîñòü â èãðå ó êëîóíà èñ÷åçëà..ñóõóì
áàáàëàéêà
:dyavol:
Àâòîð
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 10:55 
All you
need is love.

>http://novosti.dn.ua/details/227996/
> ÎÎÍ ïîäòâåðäèëè ïðè÷àñòíîñòü ñïåöñëóæá Ðîññèè ê ãèáåëè ëþäåé â Îäåññå 2 ìàÿ
>"Îáíàðóæåíû äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïîäãîòîâêè áåñïîðÿäêîâ â ãîðîäå è ñîáûòèé â îäåññêîì Äîìå ïðîôñîþçîâ ðîññèéñêèìè ñïåöñëóæáàìè. Äîñòîâåðíî èçâåñòíî îá ó÷àñòèè äâóõ îôèöåðîâ Ãëàâíîãî ðàçâåäûâàòåëüíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ", - ãîâîðèòñÿ â ñîîáùåíèè îðãàíèçàöèè.

Îëè ññûëêà áèòàÿ. :4:
Ïîòîì ýòèõ äóðàêîâ ðàçûãðûâàþò â ìàéäàííûé ïîêåð, îáåùàÿ "âñå è ñðàçó". (ñ) Stop Âðåìÿ: 21.01.2014 23:09
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Îäèíöîâî/Âèñáàäåí


http://novosti.dn.ua/details/227991/
Ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî ïðèéòè ê Áîãó - âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî ãëóõîíåìîìó ñòàòü âåëèêèì êîìïîçèòîðîì.

Êîãäà ãîâîðÿò î “ðóññêîé ïîýçèè”, î åå “çîëîòîì” èëè “ñåðåáðÿíîì âåêå” – ìíå ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñìåøíî. “Ðóññêîé ïîýçèè” íåò, êàê íåò “ðóññêîãî ðîêà”.
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Ìîñêâà


>Îëè ññûëêà áèòàÿ.
Äðóãîé íåò :lol:
Íà ñàéòå ÎÎÍ- òîëüêî îñóæäåíèÿ óáèéñòâ æóðíàëèñòîâ.
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðû ôåíäåð,á¸ðíè, ïåðåäàò÷èê, Ãëîòêà

>olirup , ÷¸, ïðÿì óäîñòîâåðåíèÿ íà ìåñòå òðàãåäèè ïîòåðÿëè?
Íàâåðíîå àìåðèêîñû ïðåäîñòàâèëè çàïèñü ðàçãîâîðà .âàñüÿ âîò èç ìàé êñèâà ïåòÿ òû âàíäåôóë ïðèäóðîê.
Êðè÷è ñëàâà óêðàèíå è ãåðîÿì ñëàâà à íå ãîò ìèò àíö.
ÿ êàê Àëåêñàíäðîâñêèé ñòîëï
ñòîþ è íå ïàäàþ è çà ìíîé ìîé àíãåë è êðåñò
íî íåêîòîðûå äåáèëû äóìàþò òàê
èëè ñòîëáû íå âèñÿò íà ïðîâîäàõ ýòî ïðîâîäà âèñÿò íà ñòîëáàõ
http://www.realmusic.ru/that_take
bahvik@bk.ru
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Îäèíöîâî/Âèñáàäåí


ïî âëîæåííîé ññûëêå
êðàòêîå èçëîðæåíèå:
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=14741&LangID=E


ïîëíàÿ âåðñèÿ:
http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/UA/HRMMUReport15June2014.pdf
Ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî ïðèéòè ê Áîãó - âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî ãëóõîíåìîìó ñòàòü âåëèêèì êîìïîçèòîðîì.

Êîãäà ãîâîðÿò î “ðóññêîé ïîýçèè”, î åå “çîëîòîì” èëè “ñåðåáðÿíîì âåêå” – ìíå ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñìåøíî. “Ðóññêîé ïîýçèè” íåò, êàê íåò “ðóññêîãî ðîêà”.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Óêðàèíà - 4
Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 11:15 
All you
need is love.

>http://novosti.dn.ua/details/227991/


íó íå ñìåøíî.. óæå :7: òû âêèäûâàåøü îòêðîâåííóþ ëàæó ... èáî.

Âîò òåêñò è ññûëêà â òåêñòå íà òåêñò Ïðåññ-öåíòðà ÎÎÍ

Íàáëþäàòåëè ÎÎÍ â Óêðàèíå íàøëè ïîäòâåðæäåíèå òîìó, ÷òî â òðàãè÷åñêèõ ñîáûòèÿõ 2 ìàÿ â Îäåññå ó÷àñòâîâàëè ñïåöñëóæáû Ðîññèè. Îíè íàøëè äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ïîäãîòîâêè âñåõ áåñïîðÿäêîâ â Îäåññêîì Äîìå ïðîôñîþçîâ ðîññèéñêèìè ñïåöñëóæáàìè. Äîñòîâåðíî èçâåñòíî îá ó÷àñòèè 2 îôèöåðîâ ÃÐÓ, - ñêàçàíî â äîêëàäå ÎÎÍ ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà ññûëêà (http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayN ews.aspx?NewsID=14741&LangID=E)

Êîíêðåòíûå ôàìèëèè â òðåòüåì äîêëàäå Ìèññèè ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà â Óêðàèíå íå íàçûâàþò, íî èç äîêëàäà ÷åòêî âèäíî, ÷òî âèíîâíûå â ñìåðòÿõ â Îäåññå, ýòî ðîññèéñêèå ñïåöñëóæáû.


×èòàé òåêñò íà ðóññêîì.

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Íîâûé äîêëàä ÎÎÍ ïî Óêðàèíå ñîäåðæèò ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î íàðóøåíèÿõ çàêîíà è ïîðÿäêà íà âîñòîêå è òðåâîæíûõ òåíäåíöèÿõ â Êðûìó

ÆÅÍÅÂÀ (18 èþíÿ 2014 ã.) – Óïðàâëåíèå Âåðõîâíîãî êîìèññàðà ÎÎÍ ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà â ñðåäó îïóáëèêîâàëî íîâûé äîêëàä ïî Óêðàèíå, â êîòîðîì ñîäåðæèòñÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ î íàðóøåíèè çàêîíà è ïîðÿäêà â ðåãèîíàõ, êîíòðîëèðóåìûõ âîîðóæåííûìè ãðóïïèðîâêàìè, íà âîñòîêå ñòðàíû, è ðàñòóùåì ÷èñëå ñâèäåòåëüñòâ ñëó÷àåâ ïîõèùåíèÿ, çàäåðæàíèÿ, ïûòîê è óáèéñòâ, à òàêæå î ðÿäå «òðåâîæíûõ òåíäåíöèé», âîçíèêàþùèõ â Êðûìó.

Âåðõîâíûé êîìèññàð Íàâè Ïèëëýé ïðèçâàëà âîîðóæåííûå ãðóïïèðîâêè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèå ñâîþ äåÿòåëüíîñòü â âîñòî÷íûõ ðåãèîíàõ Äîíåöêà è Ëóãàíñêà, «ïðåêðàòèòü äîâîäèòü ñåáÿ è ëþäåé, æèâóùèõ â ðåãèîíå, äî áåçâûõîäíîé ñèòóàöèè, âåäóùåé ê íèùåòå, ðàçðóøåíèÿì, ïåðåñåëåíèÿì è óõóäøåíèþ ýêîíîìè÷åñêîãî ïîëîæåíèÿ”.

“Âñå, ÷åãî îíè äîáèëèñü, ýòî àòìîñôåðà íåçàùèùåííîñòè è ñòðàõà, êîòîðàÿ îêàçûâàåò îãðîìíîå ïàãóáíîå âîçäåéñòâèå íà ìíîãèå òûñÿ÷è ÷åëîâåê”, - çàÿâèëà îíà. “Ïðèøëî âðåìÿ ñëîæèòü îðóæèå è ïîãîâîðèòü. Ìèð è ïðèìèðåíèå, à òàêæå äîëãîñðî÷íûå ðåøåíèÿ àáñîëþòíî äîñòèæèìû”.

Äîêëàä íà 58 ñòðàíèö, ðàññìàòðèâàþùèé ïåðèîä ñ 7 ìàÿ ïî 7 èþíÿ, óæå òðåòèé äîêëàä Ìèññèè ÎÎÍ ïî ìîíèòîðèíãó ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà ñ ìîìåíòà åå ðàçìåùåíèÿ Âåðõîâíûì êîìèññàðîì â ìàðòå.

Ïîñâåòèâ ïîëîâèíó äîêëàäà íåäàâíèì ñîáûòèÿì íà âîñòîêå Óêðàèíû è â Êðûìó, Ìèññèÿ ïî ìîíèòîðèíãó òàêæå âûäåëèëà ðÿä òåêóùèõ ðàññëåäîâàíèé è èíèöèàòèâ (âñåãî 5), îòíîñÿùèõñÿ ê íàðóøåíèÿì ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà âî âðåìÿ àêöèé ïðîòåñòà íà Ìàéäàíå ñ íîÿáðÿ 2013 ãîäà ïî ôåâðàëü 2014 ãîäà.  äîêëàäå òàêæå ñîîáùàåòñÿ î 6 ðàññëåäîâàíèÿõ è êîìèññèÿõ, ó÷ðåæäåííûõ ñ öåëüþ ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ òðàãè÷åñêèõ ñîáûòèé â Îäåññå 2 ìàÿ.  äîêëàäå ãîâîðèòñÿ î òîì, ÷òî íåîáõîäèìî îòâåòèòü íà ðÿä âîïðîñîâ äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû îáåñïå÷èòü íàäåæíîñòü ðàññëåäîâàíèé, ïîäîò÷åòíîñòü è îòïðàâëåíèå ïðàâîñóäèÿ.  òîì ÷èñëå ðå÷ü èäåò î òîì, êòî ñòðåëÿë â äåìîíñòðàíòîâ äíåì; ïî÷åìó ïîëèöèÿ è ïîæàðíàÿ áðèãàäà ñâîåâðåìåííî íå ïðåäïðèíÿëè ìåðû èëè âîîáùå íå ïðåäïðèíÿëè íèêàêèõ ìåð; ÷òî ñëó÷èëîñü â çäàíèè ïðîôñîþçà, è ïî÷åìó ïðîèçîøåë ïîæàð; è êòî íåñåò îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà íàðóøåíèÿ.

 äîêëàäå ãîâîðèòñÿ, ÷òî Ïðàâèòåëüñòâî Óêðàèíû ïðîäîëæàåò îñóùåñòâëÿòü Æåíåâñêóþ äåêëàðàöèþ îò 17 àïðåëÿ ïóòåì ïðîâåäåíèÿ ðÿäà èíèöèàòèâ è çàêîíîäàòåëüíûõ èçìåíåíèé, à òàêæå ïðåäïðèíèìàÿ ïåðâûå øàãè íà ïóòè ê ïðèíÿòèþ êîíñòèòóöèîííîé ðåôîðìû, âêëþ÷àÿ äåöåíòðàëèçàöèþ âëàñòè è ïðèäàíèå ñïåöèàëüíîãî ñòàòóñà ðóññêîìó ÿçûêó. Áûëè ïðèíÿòû çàêîíîäàòåëüíûå ïîïðàâêè ñ öåëüþ ïðîòèâîäåéñòâèÿ äèñêðèìèíàöèè è êîððóïöèè, à òàêæå êàñàòåëüíî ïîëîæåíèÿ áåæåíöåâ; êðîìå òîãî, áûëè ïðåäïðèíÿòû ìåðû ïî àìíèñòèè, ëþñòðàöèè ñóäåé, ÿçûêîâûì ïðàâàì, âíóòðåííå ïåðåìåùåííûì ëèöàì (ÂÏË) èç Êðûìà, ýòíè÷åñêîé ïîëèòèêå, ïûòêàì è æåñòîêîìó îáðàùåíèþ, ÑÌÈ è ðåôîðìå ïðàâîîõðàíèòåëüíûõ îðãàíîâ.

Âî âðåìÿ îò÷åòíîãî ïåðèîäà ñèòóàöèÿ â îáëàñòè ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà â âîñòî÷íûõ ðåãèîíàõ Äîíåöêà è Ëóãàíñêà ïðîäîëæàëà óõóäøàòüñÿ, - ãîâîðèòñÿ â äîêëàäå.  íåì òàêæå îòìå÷àåòñÿ ðîñò ïðèñóòñòâèÿ âîîðóæåííûõ ëþäåé è îðóæèÿ â îáîèõ ðåãèîíàõ è òî, ÷òî «ïðåäñòàâèòåëè Äîíåöêîé Íàðîäíîé Ðåñïóáëèêè ïðèçíàëè ïðèñóòñòâèå â èõ ðÿäàõ ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, â òîì ÷èñëå èç ×å÷íè è äðóãèõ ðåñïóáëèê Ñåâåðíîãî Êàâêàçà».

“Ðîñò ïðåñòóïíîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè, âåäóùèé ê íàðóøåíèÿì ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà, áîëüøå íå îãðàíè÷èâàåòñÿ íàïàäåíèÿìè íà æóðíàëèñòîâ, âûáîðíûõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé, ìåñòíûõ ïîëèòèêîâ, ãðàæäàíñêèõ ñëóæàùèõ è îáùåñòâåííûõ àêòèâèñòîâ”, - ãîâîðèòñÿ â äîêëàäå. “Ïîõèùåíèÿ, çàäåðæàíèÿ, æåñòîêîå îáðàùåíèå è ïûòêè, óáèéñòâà ñî ñòîðîíû âîîðóæåííûõ ãðóïïèðîâîê òåïåðü îòíîñÿòñÿ ê áîëåå øèðîêîìó íàñåëåíèþ äâóõ âîñòî÷íûõ ðåãèîíîâ, õàðàêòåðèçóþùèõñÿ ñåé÷àñ àòìîñôåðîé ñòðàõà”.

 ðåçóëüòàòå, íåñêîëüêî òûñÿ÷ ëþäåé áûëè âûíóæäåíû ïîêèíóòü Äîíåöêóþ è Ëóãàíñêóþ îáëàñòè. Íàðÿäó ñ òàêèìè ïðè÷èíàìè áåãñòâà, êàê ïðîèçâîëüíîå íàñèëèå è óõóäøåíèå ýêîíîìè÷åñêèõ è ñîöèàëüíûõ óñëîâèé, íåêîòîðûå îïðîøåííûå ïåðåìåùåííûå ëèöà óïîìÿíóëè «öåëåíàïðàâëåííûå íàïàäåíèÿ è çàïóãèâàíèÿ àêòèâèñòîâ è âñå ÷àùå «ïðîñòûõ» æèòåëåé, èçâåñòíûõ èõ ïðîóêðàèíñêîé ïîçèöèåé”. Ìåñòíûå ÍÏÎ ïîäòâåðäèëè, ÷òî ïðè çàõâàòå àäìèíèñòðàòèâíûõ çäàíèé âîîðóæåííûå ãðóïïèðîâêè ïðèîáðåòàëè äîñòóï ê ëè÷íûì äàííûì àêòèâèñòîâ, ó÷àñòâîâàâøèõ â ìèòèíãàõ. Ïî ñîîáùåíèÿì, òàêèå àêòèâèñòû è èõ ñåìüè ïîëó÷àëè â ñâîé àäðåñ óãðîçû è îñêîðáëåíèÿ. Ãðóïïà ïî ìîíèòîðèíãó îòìåòèëà «ìíîãî÷èñëåííûå ñîîáùåíèÿ î òîì, ÷òî òûñÿ÷è ëþäåé ñòðåìÿòñÿ ïîêèíóòü çîíû êîíôëèêòà, êàê òîëüêî îíè ïîëó÷àþò âîçìîæíîñòü áåçîïàñíî ïåðåäâèãàòüñÿ”.

Êîãäà Ïðàâèòåëüñòâî ðàçìåñòèëî ñâîè âîéñêà â Äîíåöêîé è Ëóãàíñêîé îáëàñòÿõ, òàì ðàçâåðíóëèñü áîëåå ðåãóëÿðíûå è èíòåíñèâíûå áîè. “Ìåñòíûå æèòåëè ýòèõ ðàéîíîâ ñòàëè âñå ÷àùå ïîïàäàòü ïîä ïåðåêðåñòíûé îãîíü ìåæäó óêðàèíñêèìè âîéñêàìè è âîîðóæåííûìè ãðóïïèðîâêàìè, ïîãèáàÿ èëè ïîëó÷àÿ ðàíåíèÿ”, - ãîâîðèòñÿ â äîêëàäå.  íåì òàêæå äîáàâëÿåòñÿ, ÷òî Ìèññèÿ ÎÎÍ ïî ìîíèòîðèíãó ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà “îáåñïîêîåíà ðàñòóùèì ÷èñëîì ñîîáùåíèé î íàñèëüñòâåííûõ èñ÷åçíîâåíèÿõ â ðåçóëüòàòå îïåðàöèé ñëóæáû áåçîïàñíîñòè”.

Âåðõîâíûé êîìèññàð Íàâè Ïèëëýé ïðèçâàëà Ïðàâèòåëüñòâî «ïðîÿâèòü ñäåðæàííîñòü, îáåñïå÷èòü, ÷òîáû îïåðàöèè ñëóæáû áåçîïàñíîñòè ñîîòâåòñòâîâàëè ìåæäóíàðîäíûì ñòàíäàðòàì è îáðàùàòü îñîáîå âíèìàíèå íà çàùèòó ìèðíûõ ãðàæäàí ïðè âçàèìîäåéñòâèè ñ âîîðóæ¸ííûìè ãðóïïèðîâêàìè».

“Ñâîáîäà âûðàæåíèÿ ìíåíèé ïðîäîëæàåò íàõîäèòüñÿ ïîä óãðîçîé, îñîáåííî â âîñòî÷íûõ ðåãèîíàõ, ãäå æóðíàëèñòû ñòàëêèâàþòñÿ ñ çàïóãèâàíèÿìè è óãðîçàìè èõ æèçíè”, - ñîîáùàåòñÿ â äîêëàäå.  íåì ïðèâåäåí ðÿä ñëó÷àåâ íàñèëèÿ, íàäðóãàòåëüñòâ, ïðîèçâîëüíûõ çàäåðæàíèé è ïîõèùåíèé æóðíàëèñòîâ, âêëþ÷àÿ óêðàèíñêèõ ãðàæäàí â Äîíåöêîé è Ëóãàíñêîé îáëàñòÿõ è Êðûìó, à òàêæå ðîññèéñêèõ ñîòðóäíèêîâ ÑÌÈ, îñâåùàþùèõ ñîáûòèÿ íà âîñòîêå. “Ðå÷è íåíàâèñòè, îñîáåííî â ñîöèàëüíûõ ÑÌÈ, ïðîäîëæàþò óñèëèâàòü íàïðÿæåíèå è óñóãóáëÿòü ðàñêîë â îáùåñòâå”, - îòìå÷àåòñÿ â äîêëàäå.

 äîêëàäå ïåðå÷èñëÿåòñÿ ðÿä ïðèìåðîâ ëîæíîãî èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ôîòîãðàôèé è âèäåîôèëüìîâ ñ öåëüþ ïðîïàãàíäû, âêëþ÷àÿ ôîòîãðàôèþ ðàíåíîãî ðåáåíêà â Àëåïïî (Ñèðèÿ), êîòîðûé áûë ïðåäñòàâëåí êàê æåðòâà áîåâ â äîíåöêîì àýðîïîðòå; è âèäåî ñ óêðàèíñêèìè âåðòîëåòàìè ñ ñèìâîëèêîé ÎÎÍ, êîòîðûå áûëè ñíÿòû ðàíåå â äðóãîì ìåñòå è íå èñïîëüçîâàëèñü, êàê óòâåðæäàëîñü â âèäåî, â íûíåøíèõ áîÿõ â Óêðàèíå. Äîêëàä òàêæå îòìå÷àåò ðÿä íàñèëüñòâåííûõ ñëó÷àåâ, óãðîç è çàïóãèâàíèé â àäðåñ äóõîâåíñòâà è ÷ëåíîâ Óêðàèíñêîé ïðàâîñëàâíîé öåðêâè, à òàêæå â àäðåñ ïîñëåäîâàòåëåé äðóãèõ êîíôåññèé â Äîíåöêîé è Ëóãàíñêîé îáëàñòÿõ è â Êðûìó.

 Êðûìó “ââåäåíèå çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâà Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè âîïðåêè ðåçîëþöèè Ãåíåðàëüíîé Àññàìáëåè ÎÎÍ 68/262 è ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèì îðãàíàì ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ïðàâà ïðåïÿòñòâóåò ïîëüçîâàíèþ ïðàâàìè ÷åëîâåêà è îñíîâíûìè ñâîáîäàìè”, - ãîâîðèòñÿ â äîêëàäå.  íåì òàêæå îòìå÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî “ýòî ñîçäàåò ñèòóàöèþ íåîïðåäåëåííîñòè, ïîñêîëüêó äî 1 ÿíâàðÿ 2015 ãîäà ïðåäïîëàãàåòñÿ äåéñòâèå óêðàèíñêîãî çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâà, íî ïðè ýòîì îò ïðàâîâûõ èíñòèòóòîâ óæå òðåáóåòñÿ ñîîòâåòñòâèå ïîëîæåíèÿì çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâà Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, íàïðèìåð, ÍÏÎ íå ìîãóò ðåãèñòðèðîâàòüñÿ”.

“Æèòåëè Êðûìà, èçâåñòíûå ñâîåé ïðîóêðàèíñêîé ïîçèöèåé, ïîäâåðãàþòñÿ çàïóãèâàíèÿì”, - ñîîáùàåòñÿ â äîêëàäå, â êîòîðîì òàêæå îòìå÷àåòñÿ áåñïîêîéñòâî ïî ïîâîäó òîãî, ÷òî ìíîãèå ìîãóò ñòîëêíóòüñÿ ñ ðàñòóùåé äèñêðèìèíàöèåé, â îñîáåííîñòè â îáëàñòè îáðàçîâàíèÿ è òðóäîóñòðîéñòâà, è äîáàâëÿåòñÿ, ÷òî ëèäåðû è àêòèâèñòû êîðåííîãî íàðîäà êðûìñêèõ òàòàð ñòàëêèâàþòñÿ ñ ïðåñëåäîâàíèÿìè è îãðàíè÷åíèÿìè ïîëüçîâàíèÿ èõ êóëüòóðíûìè ïðàâàìè.

“Âî âðåìÿ îò÷åòíîãî ïåðèîäà ñèòóàöèÿ âñåõ æèòåëåé Êðûìà óõóäøèëàñü ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ ïîëüçîâàíèÿ èõ ïðàâàìè íà ñâîáîäó âûðàæåíèÿ ìíåíèé, ìèðíûõ ñîáðàíèé, àññîöèàöèé, ðåëèãèè è óáåæäåíèé”, - ñêàçàíî â äîêëàäå.

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“Æèòåëè Êðûìà, èçâåñòíûå ñâîåé ïðîóêðàèíñêîé ïîçèöèåé, ïîäâåðãàþòñÿ çàïóãèâàíèÿì”, - ñîîáùàåòñÿ â äîêëàäå
Ñðàçó ÷óâñòâóåòñÿ ñåðüåçíûé, îñíîâàòåëüíûé ïîäõîä â èññëåäîâàíèè :lol:
À ïîäñêàæèòå, â êàêîì òàì ïóíêòå ïðî ðîññèéñêèõ ãðóøíèêîâ? À òî áóêâ ìíîãîâàòî.
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðû ôåíäåð,á¸ðíè, ïåðåäàò÷èê, Ãëîòêà

olirup , îëå ÷åòû ãîíèøü, ÿ íå ïîëåíèëñÿ è ïåðåâåë .â îñíîâíîì òàì ñïëîøíûå îõàíüÿ è àõàíüÿ ïî ïîâîäó óõåäøåíèÿ æèçíè è ñòðàäàíèé ìèðíîãî íàñåëåíèÿ è ïðèçûâû îñòàíîâèòü ñòîëêíîâåíèÿ è íå ïûòàòü ïðåññó.
Ïðè ýòîì ñêðîìíî óìàë÷èâàåòñÿ êòî ïûòàåò è óáèâàåò.
Ïðî îäåññó òàì ñêàçàíî ÷òî íàäî ðàññëåäîâàòü,
Çàòî àôèãåòü êàê îêàçûâàåòñÿ ñòðàäàþò êðûì÷àíå îñîáåííî òàòàðû èç çà òîãî ÷òî êàêîãî òî õðåíà èõíåãî íå òî àðåñòîâàëè íå òî íåïóñêàþò â êðûì.
â îáùåì ãàâíþêè ýòè õüþìàí ðåïîðò,èëè êàê èõ òàì,
Ñâàëèëè âñå â êó÷ó óáèâàþò ðîñèéñêèõ æóðíàëèñòîâ à âèíîâàòû ñåïàðàòèñòû è äà ñàìîå ãëàâíîå îíè ïðèçíàëèñü ÷òî ñðåäè ñåïàðàòèñòîâ åñòü ðóññêèå äîáðîâîëüöû
 îáùåì ïó÷
Ñòü çàñóíóò ñåáå â çàäíèöó òàêèå äîêëàäû.
ÿ êàê Àëåêñàíäðîâñêèé ñòîëï
ñòîþ è íå ïàäàþ è çà ìíîé ìîé àíãåë è êðåñò
íî íåêîòîðûå äåáèëû äóìàþò òàê
èëè ñòîëáû íå âèñÿò íà ïðîâîäàõ ýòî ïðîâîäà âèñÿò íà ñòîëáàõ
http://www.realmusic.ru/that_take
bahvik@bk.ru
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6 ñòðóí

Òðýøåð , îòñòàíü îò Ëåðóïà, åãî ñàì Ðûáíèêîâ íà_óé ïîñëàë.
Êòî òû ïðîòèâ Ðûáíèêîâà?
:idea2:
Ïîñëå òîãî, êàê àìóð óøåë ïîïèñàòü çà óãîë, íåîáõîäèìîñòü â èãðå ó êëîóíà èñ÷åçëà..ñóõóì
áàáàëàéêà
:dyavol:
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Ìîñêâà


ëåíüòÿåöÚ , íå, íó ÿ ïðàâäà õîòåë ïî÷èòàòü, îçíàêîìèòüñÿ (êàþñü!). Íî ÿ ïîêà âñ¸ ÷èòàòü áóäó, òóò æå åùå äâå ñòðàíèöû êèðïè÷åé íàâàëÿò.
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Ïåâ÷åíñê•*°`*•-.,_,.-•*
Âîêàë•*°`*•-.,_,....

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íó íèõðåíàñå "ïîäàðêè" ðàçäàþò . îïàñíî íàõîäèòñÿ ãäå ìíîãî íàðîäó .
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 11:53 
Îäèíöîâî/Âèñáàäåí


ËÞÄÂÈà , ÿ â îòëè÷èå îò òåáÿ, ñìîòðþ ïîëíûé òåêñò íà èíãëèøå. Íà òîì æå ñàéòå âûëîæåíî. Ññûëêà âûøå. Ïðî ñïåöñëóæáû ïîêà íå íàø¸ë (âîçìîæíî, ýòî ïåðåñêàç ÎÎÍ-îâöàìè ðåçóëüòàòîâ 6 ïàðàëëåëüíî ïðîâåä¸ííûõ óêðàèíñêîé ñòîðîíîé ðàññëåäîâàíèé), çàòî âèæó èçëîæåííóþ ÎÎÍ õðîíîëîãèþ ñîáûòèé:

38. Early in the morning of 2 May, at least 600 football fans arrived from Kharkiv. Football fans from both teams are known to have strong “Pro-Unity”8 sympathies. A pre-match rally for “United Ukraine” had been planned for 3.00 p.m. on Sobornaya square and gathered, at least, 2,000 people, including supporters of the two football teams, Right Sector activists, members of so-called self-defence units, and other “Pro-Unity” supporters. Right Sector and “self-defence” unit supporters were observed by the HRMMU wearing helmets and masks, and armed with shields, axes, wooden/metallic sticks and some with firearms. By 3:00 p.m. the HRMMU had observed 15 police officers on Sobornaya square and two buses of riot police officers parked nearby.

39. Meanwhile, the HRMMU observed that about 450 metres away from Sobornaya street, “Pro-Federalism” activists, comprising approximately 300 activists from “Odesskaya Druzhina” (radical “Pro-Federalism” movement), had also gathered one hour earlier. They reportedly intended to prevent the “Pro-Unity” rally; and were wearing helmets, shields, masks, axes, wooden/metal sticks and some of them with firearms.

40. The HRMMU observed an insufficient and inadequate police presence to manage and ensure security, and crowd control of the “United Ukraine” march towards the football stadium. The HRMMU noted that additional police officers arrived at the scene, but were unable to stop the violent confrontation.

41. At 3.15 p.m., the “Pro-Federalism Odesskaya Drujina”, “Narodnaya Drujina” and other activists approached the Sobornaya square and started to provoke the participants of the “United Ukraine” rally . Clashes arose and quickly turned into mass disorder, which lasted for several hours until 6.30 p.m. Police officers and supporters from both sides were injured during the afternoon. Six men were killed by gunshots fired by activists.


òàêèì îáðàçîì ÷¸òêî óêàçàí çà÷èíùèê: Îäåññêàÿ è Íàðîäíàÿ äðóæèíû.
Ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî ïðèéòè ê Áîãó - âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî ãëóõîíåìîìó ñòàòü âåëèêèì êîìïîçèòîðîì.

Êîãäà ãîâîðÿò î “ðóññêîé ïîýçèè”, î åå “çîëîòîì” èëè “ñåðåáðÿíîì âåêå” – ìíå ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñìåøíî. “Ðóññêîé ïîýçèè” íåò, êàê íåò “ðóññêîãî ðîêà”.
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 11:57 
All you
need is love.

>ËÞÄÂÈà , ÿ â îòëè÷èå îò òåáÿ, ñìîòðþ ïîëíûé òåêñò íà èíãëèøå. Íà òîì æå ñàéòå âûëîæåíî. Ññûëêà âûøå. Ïðî ñïåöñëóæáû ïîêà íå íàø¸ë (âîçìîæíî, ýòî ïåðåñêàç ÎÎÍ-îâöàìè ðåçóëüòàòîâ 6 ïàðàëëåëüíî ïðîâåä¸ííûõ óêðàèíñêîé ñòîðîíîé ðàññëåäîâàíèé), çàòî âèæó èçëîæåííóþ ÎÎÍ õðîíîëîãèþ ñîáûòèé:
> 38. Early in the morning of 2 May, at least 600 football fans arrived from Kharkiv. Football fans from both teams are known to have strong “Pro-Unity”8 sympathies. A pre-match rally for “United Ukraine” had been planned for 3.00 p.m. on Sobornaya square and gathered, at least, 2,000 people, including supporters of the two football teams, Right Sector activists, members of so-called self-defence units, and other “Pro-Unity” supporters. Right Sector and “self-defence” unit supporters were observed by the HRMMU wearing helmets and masks, and armed with shields, axes, wooden/metallic sticks and some with firearms. By 3:00 p.m. the HRMMU had observed 15 police officers on Sobornaya square and two buses of riot police officers parked nearby.
>39. Meanwhile, the HRMMU observed that about 450 metres away from Sobornaya street, “Pro-Federalism” activists, comprising approximately 300 activists from “Odesskaya Druzhina” (radical “Pro-Federalism” movement), had also gathered one hour earlier. They reportedly intended to prevent the “Pro-Unity” rally; and were wearing helmets, shields, masks, axes, wooden/metal sticks and some of them with firearms.
>40. The HRMMU observed an insufficient and inadequate police presence to manage and ensure security, and crowd control of the “United Ukraine” march towards the football stadium. The HRMMU noted that additional police officers arrived at the scene, but were unable to stop the violent confrontation.
>41. At 3.15 p.m., the “Pro-Federalism Odesskaya Drujina”, “Narodnaya Drujina” and other activists approached the Sobornaya square and started to provoke the participants of the “United Ukraine” rally . Clashes arose and quickly turned into mass disorder, which lasted for several hours until 6.30 p.m. Police officers and supporters from both sides were injured during the afternoon. Six men were killed by gunshots fired by activists.
>òàêèì îáðàçîì ÷¸òêî óêàçàí çà÷èíùèê: Îäåññêàÿ è Íàðîäíàÿ äðóæèíû.


Ýòî åù¸ äîêàçàòü íóæíî, à èìåííî ïðè÷àñòíîñòü ëþäåé ñ ïîâÿçêàìè ê Îäåññêîé Äðóæèíå, à òû ï#####c âêèíóë ïðî 2 ÃÐÓ øíèêîâ.. ãäå òåêñò??? ãäå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî???
Ïîòîì ýòèõ äóðàêîâ ðàçûãðûâàþò â ìàéäàííûé ïîêåð, îáåùàÿ "âñå è ñðàçó". (ñ) Stop Âðåìÿ: 21.01.2014 23:09
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Ìîñêâà


>Ïðî ñïåöñëóæáû ïîêà íå íàø¸ë
Âîò ÿ êàê-òî òîæå...

>òàêèì îáðàçîì ÷¸òêî óêàçàí çà÷èíùèê: Îäåññêàÿ è Íàðîäíàÿ äðóæèíû.
Ïðîâîöèðîâàòü òåáÿ è ïüÿíûé ìîæåò. Íî çà÷èíùèê è âèíîâíûé- ýòî äàëåêî íå âñåãäà îäíî è òî æå.
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All you
need is love.

È åù¸ ìû âñå âèäåëè ñîòíèêà Ìûêîëó â çàñîñå ñ ìåíòàìè è Ïàðóäè¸ì ïîëó÷àþùåãî áðîíèêè. À ïîòîì ñòðåëÿþùåãî ïî îêíàì â Äîìå Ïðîôñîþçîâ. Êàêèå åù¸ íóæíû Äîêàçàòåëüñòâà? Íåò åñëè òû äîêàæåøü ÷òî ýòîò óðîä è åñòü ÃÐÓ-øíèê ÿ ïðè ëþäíî èçâèíþñü çà âñ¸ ñêàçàííîå è ïîëÿíó íàêðîþ.
Ïîòîì ýòèõ äóðàêîâ ðàçûãðûâàþò â ìàéäàííûé ïîêåð, îáåùàÿ "âñå è ñðàçó". (ñ) Stop Âðåìÿ: 21.01.2014 23:09
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Îäèíöîâî
Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà

>>Ñîáûòèé íåò, îáñàñûâàåòñÿ ãðÿçü èç-ïîä íîãòåé...
>âèäåî èç ïîä Ëóãàíñêà,ãðÿçü, óáèòàÿ áàáêà â êëî÷üÿ ëèùü âåäðî íåäîíåñåííûõ âèøåí. Ëåïïåð òû â ñâîåì óìå? Íèôèãà ñåáå ãðÿçü.
Òàì âîéíà èä¸ò, çà÷åì îáñóæäàòü êàæäûé âûñòðåë? Ðàñ÷¸ñûâàòü ðàíû è ïðäêèäûâàòü äðîâèøêè?

crowsgazer , íåò, íî ïðèõîäèòñÿ ÷èòàòü âñ¸, âîò è ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ æåëàíèå ñêàçàòü.

>>Ïîõîæå, òåìà ñåáÿ èçæèâàåò, èñõîäèò íà ïðîâîêàöèè è ðîçæèã. Ñîáûòèé íåò, îáñàñûâàåòñÿ ãðÿçü èç-ïîä íîãòåé...
>Íà ñàìîì äåëå, ýòî ïðîèçîøëî åùå ìåñÿöà òðè íàçàä.
Òàê äàâàéòå ïåðåêëþ÷àòüñÿ. È òàê âñå ñ êàòóøåê ñúåçæàþò.

Ïðî Îäåññó ñïîðèòü áåç òîëêó, åñëè íèêòî íèêîìó íå âåðèò. Íèêòî íå ïðàâ, âèíà íà îáåèõ ñòîðîíàõ. À ïîñòðàäàëè êàê âñåãäà îáû÷íûå ÷óâàêè.
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear your scream
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

olirup , çà÷åì òû ïûòàåøñÿ íàéòè îïðàâäàíèÿ ñîáûòèé â Îäåññå?
òàì îñíîâíûõ äâà ôàêòà
1. - óáèéñòâà ñ äèêîé æåñòîêîñòüþ
2. - îòíîøåíèå îêðóæàþùèõ ê çâåðñòâàì â ìîìåíò è ïîñëå ñîáûòèé.
ÿ ïîñìåþñü íàä ñâîèìè óñïåõàìè, è èõ ïîäëèííàÿ öåíà ñòàíåò î÷åâèäíîé
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Tchad
À/H2N3


http://top.rbc.ru/politics/20/06/2014/931464.shtml#xtor=AL-[internal_traffic]--[..._body]-[item_4]
Ãåíñåê ÍÀÒÎ îáâèíèë Ðîññèþ â çàãîâîðå ïðîòèâ äîáûò÷èêîâ ñëàíöåâîãî ãàçà

Ñàìàÿ äîáûâàþùàÿ îðãàíèçàöèÿ äîëãî òóæèëàñü, äóìàÿ ñ êåì ÐÔ ìîãëà âñòóïèòü ñ çàãîâîð è â èòîãå âûñ..ðàëà òàêóþ âåðñèþ. Åâðîïåéñêèå ýêîëîãè.
Ó íèõ òàì ñîâñåì ñ ìîçãàìè ïëîõî ñòàëî íà ïî÷âå óêðàèíû? Ýòî óæå äàæå íå ïðîñòî ôýéñïàëì, ôýéñïàëì ôýéñïàëìîâ. :oooi:
"How do you sleep at night, with the borrowed dreams from a broken past?"
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Ìîñêâà


>>>Ïîõîæå, òåìà ñåáÿ èçæèâàåò, èñõîäèò íà ïðîâîêàöèè è ðîçæèã. Ñîáûòèé íåò, îáñàñûâàåòñÿ ãðÿçü èç-ïîä íîãòåé...
>>Íà ñàìîì äåëå, ýòî ïðîèçîøëî åùå ìåñÿöà òðè íàçàä.
>Òàê äàâàéòå ïåðåêëþ÷àòüñÿ. È òàê âñå ñ êàòóøåê ñúåçæàþò

Äà âñå âîò ÷òî-òî íèêàê. Âåäü â èíòåðíåòå êòî-òî íå ïðàâ! À åñëè íà åãî ïðîñòîðàõ åùå îáíàðóæåíû è 146%-íûå äîêàçàòåëüñòâà, ñëåïëåííûå êåì-òî íà êîëåíêå ëóëçîâ ðàäè, òî ñàì áîã âåëåë áûñòðåé èõ çàïîñòèòü, âûíóæäàÿ îïïîíåíòà äîêàçûâàòü, ÷òî îí íå âåðáëþä.
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Tchad
À/H2N3

>Òàì âîéíà èä¸ò,
Leper_Messiah , à âîò àâàêà òàê íå ñ÷èòàåò, òàì ÀÒÎ, âîåííîå ïîëîæåíèå îíè òîëüêî ñîáèðàþòñÿ ââîäèòü. Ìàëî êðîâè âèäèìî, òàì ïîõîæå âñå âîéñêà óêðàèíû ñòÿãèâàþòñÿ â äîíåöê-ëóãàíñê.
"How do you sleep at night, with the borrowed dreams from a broken past?"
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Ìîñêâà


>olirup , çà÷åì òû ïûòàåøñÿ íàéòè îïðàâäàíèÿ ñîáûòèé â Îäåññå?
>òàì îñíîâíûõ äâà ôàêòà
>1. - óáèéñòâà ñ äèêîé æåñòîêîñòüþ
>2. - îòíîøåíèå îêðóæàþùèõ ê çâåðñòâàì â ìîìåíò è ïîñëå ñîáûòèé.

Íó ïàòàìóøòà îíè ïåðâûå îáçûâàòüñÿ íà÷àëèèèèè!
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Òðýøåð , íó ïðàâèëüíî, ó âñåõ ïðåñòóïíèêîâ âèíîâàòà æåðòâà.

òóò æå âàðèàíò ïðîñòî óìó íå ïîñòèæèìûé - åñòü óáèòûå, íåò óáèéö, åñòü ñïðîâîöèðîâàííûå ïàé ìàëü÷èêè.
ÿ ïîñìåþñü íàä ñâîèìè óñïåõàìè, è èõ ïîäëèííàÿ öåíà ñòàíåò î÷åâèäíîé
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Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2014 12:35 
Îäèíöîâî/Âèñáàäåí


>òàì îñíîâíûõ äâà ôàêòà
>1. - óáèéñòâà ñ äèêîé æåñòîêîñòüþ
>2. - îòíîøåíèå îêðóæàþùèõ ê çâåðñòâàì â ìîìåíò è ïîñëå ñîáûòèé.

ñ äèêîé æåñòîêîñòüþ óáèâàëè â Õàðüêîâå è â Äîíåöêå. Òû ïðàâ, òîëüêî ñêàçàâøè À, äîãîâîðè è Á.
Âåçäå áûë îäèí ñöåíàðèé: ñòîðîííèêè îòäåëåíèÿ, ñòûäëèâî èìåíóþùèå ñåáÿ ôåäåðàëàìè, êîëå÷èëè ìèðíûõ äåìîíñòðàíòîâ, ñòîðîííèêîâ åäèíîé Óêðàèíû.  Õàðüêîâå ïîâòîðÿëîñü íåñêîëüêî ðàç.

äàëåå ñìîòðèì òåêñò (÷òîá íå ôàíòàçèðîâàòü):

At 7.30 p.m., when the “Pro-Unity” supporters reached Kulikovo Pole square, they burned all the “Pro-Federalism” tents. The “Pro-Federalism” activists, who had hidden in the Trade Union Building, and the “Pro-Unity” activists, then reportedly started throwing Molotov cocktails at each other . Gunshots could reportedly be heard coming from both sides .


èòàê, êîêòåëè ìîëîòîâà è ñòðåëüáà èç "ïóøåê" êîíñòàòèðóþòñÿ ñ îáåèõ ñòîðîí.

Íî òû, Ãåíà , íîåøü íå îá ýòîì. Òåáå äîñàäíî, ÷òî êàê è ïðè ÀÒÎ îñíîâíûå æåðòâû ñðåäè "ïîëîæèòåëüíûõ ðîññèÿí", à íå "íàòîâöåâ"
Ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî ïðèéòè ê Áîãó - âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî ãëóõîíåìîìó ñòàòü âåëèêèì êîìïîçèòîðîì.

Êîãäà ãîâîðÿò î “ðóññêîé ïîýçèè”, î åå “çîëîòîì” èëè “ñåðåáðÿíîì âåêå” – ìíå ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñìåøíî. “Ðóññêîé ïîýçèè” íåò, êàê íåò “ðóññêîãî ðîêà”.
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