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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 25.11.2018 01:14 |
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Ïîäñêàæèòå, ãäå âçÿòü çàâîäñêîé (èëè ìîæåò êòî ñâîé íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé äåëàë) îáðàç Ketron Audya 5? ìîæåò åñòü ó êîãî? Ëåã âèíò... Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî.... | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 26.11.2018 11:54 |
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Êè¿â, Óêðà¿íà Roland JUNO-STAGE, CME U-Key49, Yamaha EMT10 
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>Ïîäñêàæèòå, ãäå âçÿòü çàâîäñêîé (èëè ìîæåò êòî ñâîé íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé äåëàë) îáðàç Ketron Audya 5? ìîæåò åñòü ó êîãî? Ëåã âèíò Ïîïðîáóéòå ñïðîñèòü çäåñü: |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2018 13:31 |
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Ðîñòîâ-íà-Äîíó roland fa 76
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>>Ïîäñêàæèòå, ãäå âçÿòü çàâîäñêîé (èëè ìîæåò êòî ñâîé íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé äåëàë) îáðàç Ketron Audya 5? ìîæåò åñòü ó êîãî? Ëåã âèíò >Ïîïðîáóéòå ñïðîñèòü çäåñü: >http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/top ics/342900/Audya_5_HDD_backup_i...ackup_is_online >http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/top ics/364266/Audya_5_Hard_Drive_F...Hard_Drive_Fail >http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/top ics/350867/10 >>Ïîäñêàæèòå, ãäå âçÿòü çàâîäñêîé (èëè ìîæåò êòî ñâîé íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé äåëàë) îáðàç Ketron Audya 5? ìîæåò åñòü ó êîãî? Ëåã âèíò >Ïîïðîáóéòå ñïðîñèòü çäåñü: >http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/top ics/342900/Audya_5_HDD_backup_i...ackup_is_online >http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/top ics/364266/Audya_5_Hard_Drive_F...Hard_Drive_Fail >http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/top ics/350867/10 Ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå! Íàøåë ÷åëîâåêà ó êîòîðîãî åñòü îáðàç, íî! Íå ìîãó ñ íèì ñâÿçàòüñÿ ïî ñëåäóþùåé ïðè÷èíå... |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 02.07.2020 00:19 |
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Lviv Ketron SD1+ 
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Âñåì ïðèâåò! Êòî óâåëè÷èâàë ôëåø-ïàìÿòü íà Ketron SD5? Íà SD1 ñòèëè ãðóçèëèñü áåç ïðîáëåì, à çäåñü îêàçàëîñü ÷òî ïàì"ÿòü 2Ìá îïöèîíàëüíî è íóæíî åå äîñòàâëÿòü. Íî ïðîáëåìà-òàì ïàì"ÿòü áûâàåò äâóõ âèäîâ- ïëàíêîé è ìîäóëåì, êàêàÿ èç íèõ íóæíà äëÿ ïàòåðíîâ íåèçâåñòíî...) | ||
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 02.07.2020 04:31 |
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s_petro , Ìíå ñòàëî èíòåðåñíî, ÿ çàìåíèë SIMM ñ 2Ìá. Ïîñòàâèë SIMM íà 8Ìá. Êåòðîí íå ïîø¸ë íà âçë¸ò.  Ìóðçèëêå ïîìíèòñÿ íàïèñàíî, ÷òî ýòà ïëàíêà ïàìÿòè îò÷å÷àåò çà îáü¸ì ñåêâåíñîðà. Òîëüêî è âñåãî. Èíòåëîâñêàÿ ôëýø ïàìÿòü íà îòäåëüíîé ïëàòå - â SD1 íàïðèìåð - âïàÿíà â ìàìêó. ß íå ñòàë ðèñêîâàòü. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2020 12:42 |
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Lviv Ketron SD1+
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>s_petro , Ìíå ñòàëî èíòåðåñíî, ÿ çàìåíèë SIMM ñ 2Ìá. Ïîñòàâèë SIMM íà 8Ìá. Êåòðîí íå ïîø¸ë íà âçë¸ò.  Ìóðçèëêå ïîìíèòñÿ íàïèñàíî, ÷òî ýòà ïëàíêà ïàìÿòè îò÷å÷àåò çà îáü¸ì ñåêâåíñîðà. Òîëüêî è âñåãî. >Èíòåëîâñêàÿ ôëýø ïàìÿòü íà îòäåëüíîé ïëàòå - â SD1 íàïðèìåð - âïàÿíà â ìàìêó. ß íå ñòàë ðèñêîâàòü. À êàê âûãëÿäåëà SIMM ñ 2Ìá ÷òî âû ìåíÿëè -êàê äëèííàÿ ÷òî íà ìîåì ôîòî ? È ñòðàííî ÷òî îíà çà ñåêâåíñîð îòâå÷àåò... Íà GEM WK 6,8 è SIMM è DRAM ïàìÿòü ìîæíà óâåëè÷èâàòü ê 32 è 8 Ìá ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, íî îíè óâåëè÷èâàëè ñåìïëåðíóþ ïàìÿòü. Íà Ketron SD5 ìàëî ïàìÿòè äëÿ þçåðñêèõ ñòèëåé (âñåãî äî 50 øò çàãðóæàåòñÿ) íî åñòü ãíåçäà äëÿ äîïîëíèòåëüíîé ïàìÿòè, êîòîðàÿ , êñòàòè â SD1 óæå óñòàíîâëåíà... |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 11.07.2020 06:47 |
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s_petro , Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ, ÷òî îòâå÷àþ íå ñðàçó. SIMM ìîäeëü îáû÷íûé îò äðåâíèõ IBM ìàøèí è èõ ñîâìåñòèìûõ.  SD1 ïî óìîë÷àíèþ ñòîÿë íà 2Ìá. ß, êàê çàëåç â êèøêè ïî ïðèáûòèè àïïàðàòà, ñòàë èçó÷àòü. Ñðàæó-çå â êîðîáêå ñ ìåçîçîéñêèì æåëåçîì ïîäîáðàë ïîäõîäùèé íà 8Ìá è ïîäîòêíóë. Ïîñêîëüêó ñåêâåíñîðîì êåòðîíà íå ïîëüçóþñü îò ñëîâà ÂÎÎÁÙÅ (ïðîñòî èíîãäà ïðîèãðûâàþ SMF â åãî ïëååðå) - ñîîòâåòñòâåííî íå âåäàþ ÷åãîé-òàì óâåëè÷èëîñü.  îñòàëüíîì ôóíêöèîíàëå íå èçìåíèëîñü íè÷åãîøåíüêè. À âîò Èíòåëîâñêóþ ôëýøêó âðîäå ïîòÿíóë-ïîêà÷àë - åìíèï îíà ïðèïàÿíà. Õîòÿ ïîä íåé âèäíååòñÿ ñëîò ðàçü¸ìà. Èëè ýòî íàïðàâëÿþùàÿ êîëîäêà. Íå ñòàë ÿ å¸ ïîòðîøèòü. Ìíå íåçà÷åì. À âîò íàñ÷¸ò äîïîëíèòåëüíûõ ñëîòîâ - èõ íåò â SD1.  
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2020 13:01 |
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Ñïàñèáî çà ïîäðîáíûé îòâåò! Èíòåëîâñêàÿ ïàìÿòü- ýòî íàâåðíîå êàê ðàç òî ÷òî ÿ èùó äëÿ SD5, êàæèñü íà íåé ñýêîíîìèëè è íóæíî äîêóïàòü ÷òîáû ïîëíîñòüþ ïàòåðíû çàãðóçèòü íà ïóñòûå ìåñòà. È îíà ñâîáîäíî ñíèìàåòñÿ, òàê êàê ñèäèò íà äâóõ ðàçúåìàõ... | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2020 14:49 |
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s_petro , Íà çäðàâèå! Îäíàêî ïîïðîáóþ ñíÿòü Èíòåëîâñêóþ...Íå ñòàë ÿ å¸ ñ õðóñòîì âûäèðàòü. Ïðèêèïåëà âèäèìî îò îêèñëîâ. Íî, ðàç Âû óòâåðæäàåòå, ÷òî îíà ñèäèò â ðàçü¸ìàõ - áóäåì ïîñìîòðåòü. Ìîæåò è ÿ ïîìåíÿþ, åñëè ñïåêè SD1 ïîçâîëÿò ðàñøèðèòü. 
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2020 14:51 |
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Âîò ôîòêà ïîæèðíåå
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2020 15:03 |
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Lviv Ketron SD1+
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Ðàñøèðèòü âðÿä ëè óäàñòñÿ íàâåðíîå- ýòî ôëåøêà äëÿ ïàòåðíîâ, ò.å. þçåðñêèõ ñòèëåé è îíà ñòðîãî ïîä ÿ÷åéêè. Íî åñëè á óäàëîñü ðàñøèðèòü åå- ïîëó÷èëîñü áû êàê ó Êîðãîâ- äî 1000 ñòèëåé. Ïðàâäà äëÿ SD1 ýòî íå î÷åíü è íóæíî, òàê êàê èìååòñÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ÷èòàòü ñòèëè íàïðÿìóþ ñ õàðäà-òàê ÷òî íàâåðíîå íå ðèñêóéòå. À âîò óâåëè÷èòü ñåìïëåðíóþ ïàìÿòü ñ 16 äî 32 Ìá áûëî áû ñîâñåì íåïëîõî, ïðàâäà ïåðåä ýòèì îïåðàöèîíêó ñëåäóåò îáíîâèòü äî SD1+. | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2020 15:55 |
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s_petro , >À âîò óâåëè÷èòü ñåìïëåðíóþ ïàìÿòü ñ 16 äî 32 Ìá áûëî áû ñîâñåì íåïëîõî, ïðàâäà ïåðåä ýòèì îïåðàöèîíêó ñëåäóåò îáíîâèòü äî SD1+. ×åì óâåëè÷èòü? Ãälå íà ïëàòå SD1 ýòîò RAM ÷èï? ß äàâíî íå çàãëÿäûâàë â êèøêè, õîòÿ ôîòîê íàù¸ëêàë ïðèëè÷íî. ÅÌÍÈÏ â SD1 ñýìïëåðíàÿ ïàìÿòü íå óâåëè÷èâàåòñÿ. È ÎÑü ìàêñèìàëüíàÿ ñòàâèòñÿ 4.0.b. Åñòü Êàñòîìíàÿ îñü ïîä SD1? |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2020 23:31 |
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SD1 áåç ïðîáëåì îáíîâëÿåòñÿ ê SD1+, ïðàâäà ñ íåêîòîðûìè õèòðîñòÿìè, åñòü òàêæå íîâàÿ ÎÑ ñ ïîääåðæêîé êàðò-ðèäåäåðà.  îñòàëüíîì íå ïîäñêàæó òàê êàê ó ìåíÿ ñåé÷àñ SD5 ïîñëåäíåé âåðñèè è õî÷ó ìàêñèìàëüíî åãî ðàñøèðèòü... | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2020 10:52 |
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>SD1 áåç ïðîáëåì îáíîâëÿåòñÿ ê SD1+ Ãäå ïðóô? SD1 òîëüêî òàê. Åñëè ïðîáîâàòü íàêàòèòü Æåëåçÿêà ëèáî âèñíåò â ïðîöåññå, ëèáî åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü ïîëó÷èòü êèðïè÷. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2020 11:20 |
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Lviv Ketron SD1+
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Íó ÿ æå íàïèñàë, ÷òî îáíîâëÿåòñÿ ñ íåêîòîðûìè õèòðîñòÿìè- âñåãî òî íàâñåãî F6 íóæíî óäåðæèâàòü ïðè âêëþ÷åíèè è ïðîöåññ ïîéäåò- êó÷à ëþäåé óæå òàê îáíîâèëè ñâîè ñèíòû. Ãîâîðÿò ÷òî äîáàâèëîñü ÷óòü ñòèëåé, çâóêîâ è çâó÷àíèå ñòàëî íåìíîãî äðóãèì. Íî ýòî îïÿòü æå äëÿ ëþáèòåëåé âñå îáíîâëÿòü- êàðäèíàëüíî íè÷åãî íå ìåíÿåòñÿ â çâó÷àíèè... | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2020 08:50 |
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Ïðîøó ïîìîùè êåòðîíùèêîâ. Åñòü XD3 èç øòàòîâ, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî âêëþ÷àëñÿ îí âñåãäà â 110 âîëüò. Çàäà÷à - âûÿñíèòü, íàäî ëè êàê-òî ïåðåêëþ÷èòü åãî íà 220. ß îòêðûë àïïàðàò, íî íå íàøåë âíóòðè íèêàêèõ äæàìïåðîâ èëè ñâè÷åé. Êàêîâà âåðîÿòíîñòü òîãî, ÷òî îí ñàì àâòîìàòîì ðàñïîçíàåò 220 è ïåðåêëþ÷àòü íè÷åãî íå íàäî? Áîþñü ñïàëèòü. Íà ñàìîì àïïàðàòå íàïèñàíî "117 v 60 hz". |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2020 08:56 |
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Í-ñê Keyboards 
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Íà äðóãîì ôîðóìå áûëà òåìà: Êîðã, ïðèâåç¸ííûé èç ßïîíèè, ñïàëèëè. Ïî-ìîåìó, ëó÷øå ïîäêëþ÷àòü ÷åðåç ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèé àäàïòåð. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, äî ïîÿâëåíèÿ äîñòîâåðíîé èíôîðìàöèè... |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2020 09:06 |
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Ýòî ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ÷åðåç àäàïòåð. Áóäåì æäàòü îòâåòà... | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2020 11:58 |
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 íåêîòîðûõ ñëó÷àÿõ áûâàåò äîñòàòî÷íî ïåðåïàÿòü âûõîäíîé ïðîâîä òðàíñôîðìàòîðà â áëîêå ïèòàíèÿ íà äðóãîé êîíòàêò. Íî ýòî, êîíå÷íî, òîëüêî åñëè òðàíñôîðìàòîð ìóëüòèîáìîòî÷íûé, è òàêîé âàðèàíò ïðåäóñìîòðåí çàâîäîì-èçãîòîâèòåëåì. | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2020 12:28 |
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Äà, ÷òî-òî ïîäîáíîå ÿ è íàäåÿëñÿ íàéòè, íî íèêàêèõ ñâîáîäíûõ êîíòàêòîâ äëÿ ïåðåïàéêè ÿ íà áëîêå ïèòàíèÿ íå îáíàðóæèë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2020 12:40 |
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Åñòü êàêîé-òî çåëåíûé öèëèíäð, íà êîòîðîì íàïèñàíî INPUT: 100-250V | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2020 12:42 |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 20.10.2020 07:56 |
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Ïîëó÷èë îòâåò íà ôîðóìå Ketron Òðàíñôîðìàòîð íå íóæåí, ïèòàíèå óíèâåðñàëüíîå. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 07.01.2021 16:47 |
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Ïîìîãèòå ïëèèç... Ó êîãî áûëà ïðîáëåìà ñ äèñïëååì êåòðîíà ñä1? Ìîæåò ó êîãî åñòü ôîòêè ìàðêèðîâêè äèñïëåÿ? Ñïàñèáî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 07.01.2021 18:51 |
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>Ó êîãî áûëà ïðîáëåìà ñ äèñïëååì êåòðîíà ñä1?  ÷¸ì èìåííî îíà çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ, íàïèøèòå ïîäðîáíåå. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 02:09 |
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Ïîëîñêè íà åêðàíå (ãîðèçîíòàëüíûå) | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 02:21 |
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Ñèíòåçàòîð ñëó÷àéíî íå ðîíÿëè? Ó ìåíÿ áûëà ïîõîæàÿ ñèòóàöèÿ, òîëüêî íå ñ Êåòðîíîì, à ñ ßìàõîé.  îáùåì, ïîñëå ïàäåíèÿ ïîÿâèëèñü ãîðèçîíòàëüíûå ïîëîñû. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 11:05 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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Áèòûå ïèêñåëè. ß åù¸ íà ñâî¸ì íå çàíèìàëñÿ äèàãíîñòèêîé è óñòðàíåíèåì ïîñòåïåííî âñïëûâàþùèõ íåïîëàäîê. Óæå ñ ïîëãîäà äèñïëåé íà÷àë êîñÿ÷èòü. 
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Professional musician, arranger, sound engineer, sound producer
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 11:47 |
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Êè¿â, Óêðà¿íà Roland JUNO-STAGE, CME U-Key49, Yamaha EMT10
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Åù¸ ðàç ê âîïðîñó î äâèæêå ôîðóìà. Íîðìàëüíûå äâèæêè óìåþò ìàñøòàáèðîâàòü êàðòèíêè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 14:45 |
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ketron sd1
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Èíñòðóìåíò íå ðîíÿëñÿ, ïðîñòî îò ñòàðîñòè . Ìíå íóæíî ìàðêèðîâêó äèñïëåÿ, òî åñòü òàì ñçàäè íà ïëàòå ïèøåò íîìåð. Íî òàì åù¸ íå âñ¸. Òàì åñòü REV-A. REV-B. REV-C. ß íå çíàþ êàêîé REV äîëæåí áûòü ó ýòîãî äèñïëåÿ.. | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 15:45 |
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Êè¿â, Óêðà¿íà Roland JUNO-STAGE, CME U-Key49, Yamaha EMT10
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Âîò òóò ìíîãî ïèøóò íà èíòåðåñóþùóþ âàñ òåìó. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 22:22 |
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ketron sd1
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âîò òàêàÿ ïëàòà, íî íå âèäíî ìàðêèðîâêè | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 08.01.2021 22:47 |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 09.01.2021 12:28 |
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>Åù¸ ðàç ê âîïðîñó î äâèæêå ôîðóìà. Íîðìàëüíûå äâèæêè óìåþò ìàñøòàáèðîâàòü êàðòèíêè. Ðàíüøå, ôîòîãðàôèè çàãðóæàëèñü íîðìàëüíî, â àäåêâàòíîì ðàçìåðå. À ñåé÷àñ âñ¸ ïîìåíÿëîñü, èìåííî ïîñëå âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ ñàéòà. Äâèæîê ñìåíèòü êîíå÷íî áû íå ïîìåøàëî. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 09.01.2021 12:29 |
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>âîò òàêàÿ ïëàòà, íî íå âèäíî ìàðêèðîâêè Èçîáðàæåíèå íå çàãðóçèëîñü? |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2021 19:10 |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2021 14:21 |
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Lviv Ketron SD1+
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>Ïîìîãèòå ïëèèç... Ó êîãî áûëà ïðîáëåìà ñ äèñïëååì êåòðîíà ñä1? Ìîæåò ó êîãî åñòü ôîòêè ìàðêèðîâêè äèñïëåÿ? Ñïàñèáî. Ðåøèëè âîïðîñ ñ ýêðàíîì ? Ó ìåíÿ íåäàâíî äðóã ìåíÿë-çàêàçûâàë íîâûé, ïðèñëàëè íå òîò, ïîòîì íà êàêîì òî íåìåöêîì ôîðóìå ïîäñêàçàëè êàê åãî ïðèñïîñîáèòü äëÿ ðàáîòû ñ ÑÄ1...Ýòî ïðîáëåìà ñòàðûõ ÑÄ1 -ìíîãèå äàæå â ìîëîäîñòè ñòðàäàëè ïîëîñàìè íà ýêðàíå. |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2021 18:02 |
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ketron sd1
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-For-Hitachi-LMG7420P LFC-X-5-1-inch-LCD-Screen-Display-Panel/1642845037 09?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D7f8d881846c44e4 9a395ec13da4d17de%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D 15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D164284503709%26itm%3D1642 84503709%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26bran d%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkp arms=pageci%3Acc54de51-5fe7-11eb-bf92-0242078e2a3a %7Cparentrq%3A3f3991c01770a9bdb1b42498ffc6f686%7Ci id%3A1 | |
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2021 18:04 |
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Åòî îðèãèíàëüíûé ì ñàìûé äåøîâûé, ÷òî ÿ íàøåë 
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Òåìà: Re: KETRON
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2021 18:07 |
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ñêèíü ñâîþ åëåêòðîíêó... ó ìåíÿ åñòü ôîòî ìîåãî. 
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