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òû êàê ñ ëóíû ñâàëèëñÿ ÷åñññëîâî 
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
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Íå ìîãó ñëóøàòü âñå ñóòêàìè è áûòü â êóðñå ïðÿìî âñåãî âñåãî 
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
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Moscow Sax-Alto,Tenor, Roland XPS-30, Roland XPS-10  
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Ïî÷åìóòî â áèîãðàôèè íà ññûëêå åãî ñðàâíèâàþò ñ Øîðòåðîì, õîòÿ â 80-90å îí èãðàë â íîëü êàê ì áðåêåð , íà àóäèî ÿ èíîé ðàç íå ìîã îòëè÷èòü ãäå Áåðã , à ãäå Áðåêåð , íàñòîëüêî îí âëàäåë áðåêåðîâñêèìè ôèøêàìè è çâóêîì | |
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«Äèïëîìàò-ýòî ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé ìîæåò ïîñëàòü âàñ íà #&# òàêèì îáðàçîì, ÷òî âû ñ ïðåäâêóøåíèåì áóäåòå æäàòü ïóòåøåñòâèÿ...
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Äà, âîò ÿ òîæ ïîäóìàë, ýòî æ òðîéêà êëîíîâ ïðÿì - Ìèíòçåð, Áðåêåð è Áåðã 
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 06:08 |
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Íå ñîâñåì ñîãëàñåí. Êîíå÷íî åñëè íå íàòðåíèðîâàííîìó óõó ïîñëóøàòü ÌàêËèíà, Ôèë Âóäñà è Ðè÷è Êóëà, òî òî æå ìîæíî ñêàçàòü ÷òî âñå îíè èäåíòè÷íû. Ìèíöåð ÿ òàê äóìàþ, âîîáùå íåñêîëüêî â ñòîðîíå ñòîÈò îò òåõ òîâàðèùåé (ÈÌÕÎ). Íà ñ÷¸ò Áåðãà íå çíàþ (ìàëî ñëóøàë). |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 06:38 |
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Áóì, êñòàòè ÿ òîæå ñ Ëóíû ñâàëèëñÿ – íå çíàë ïðî Áåðãà. Ïðîñòî â 2002 ÿ âîîáùå ìàëî ÷òî çíàë ïðî Äæàç…äà è ñåé÷àñ, ñîáñòâåííî.)) |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 08:28 |
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*** Ïî÷åìóòî â áèîãðàôèè íà ññûëêå åãî ñðàâíèâàþò ñ Øîðòåðîì, õîòÿ â 80-90å îí èãðàë â íîëü êàê ì áðåêåð , íà àóäèî ÿ èíîé ðàç íå ìîã îòëè÷èòü ãäå Áåðã , à ãäå Áðåêåð , íàñòîëüêî îí âëàäåë áðåêåðîâñêèìè ôèøêàìè è çâóêîì*** - 70-õ ãîäàõ Áåðã èãðàë òî÷íî êàê Êîëòðåéí, è âñå îïðåäåëåíèÿ ïîäõîäÿò íà 100 %. Îáùåå ó òðåõ òåíîðîâ-÷òî îíè åâðåè,è ó÷èëèñü ó òîãî æå ïåäàãîãà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 08:35 |
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P.S. ß õîòåë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íå çíàë î åãî ãèáåëè â àâòîêàòàñòðîôå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 08:37 |
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Äà äà, ÿ Áåðãà è Ìèíöåðà ïîñòîÿííî ïóòàë – êòî èç íèõ êòî.))) …äà, åâðåè íå òîëüêî â êëàññèêå ñèëüíû… |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
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***Áåðãà è Ìèíöåðà ïîñòîÿííî ïóòàë – êòî èç íèõ êòî***-Ìèíöåð ñ áîðîäêîé. À ïî ðóêàì ìîæíî áûëî ñïóòàòü-îáà àòëåòû ñ âåñüìà ðàçâèòûìè ìóñêóëàìè. Êñòàòè,çíàåòå ëè Âû, Leonardo, ÷òî Áåðãó êàê áûâøåìó ïèàíèñòó çàíÿëî âñåãî 8 ìåñÿöåâ îâëàäåòü ñàêñîôîíîì. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 09:39 |
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Ó ìåíÿ åñòü ÄÂÄþøêà The Abercrombie/Erskine/Mintzer/Patitucci Band – Live in New York City 1998 ß ïðîñòî òàùóñü ïî íåé.))) Îíè òàì åù¸ ñ ïóáëèêîé, òèïà ìàñòåð-êëàññà ïðîâîäÿò. Êòî íè áóäü âèäåë? |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 09:42 |
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2 NP: «…÷òî Áåðãó êàê áûâøåìó ïèàíèñòó çàíÿëî âñåãî 8 ìåñÿöåâ îâëàäåòü ñàêñîôîíîì.» È Âàñ èìåííî ýòî, âäîõíîâèëî íà òàêîé æå ïîñòóïîê??? |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
Âðåìÿ: 04.03.2007 10:40 |
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***È Âàñ èìåííî ýòî, âäîõíîâèëî íà òàêîé æå ïîñòóïîê???*** - íåò. Íà ìíîãî ëåò ïîñëå Ëåøè Êîçëîâà,íàìíîãî ëåò ðàíüøå,÷åì óñëûøàë áèîãðàôèþ Áåðãà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
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Êñòàòè,çíàåòå ëè Âû, Leonardo, ÷òî Áåðãó êàê áûâøåìó ïèàíèñòó çàíÿëî âñåãî 8 ìåñÿöåâ îâëàäåòü ñàêñîôîíîì?  Ïî ïîâîäó æå çâó÷àíèÿ - ìíå êàæåòñÿ âñå-òàêè, ýòà êàæäûé èç òðåõ î÷åíü äðóã íà äðóãà ïîõîæ, âû æ ñàìè ñêàçàëè - åâðåè è ó÷èëèñü ó îäíîãî ïðåï-ëÿ Íó íà ñàìîì äåëå çâóê ãäå-òî â îäíîé ïëîñêîñòè, ïðîõëàäíûé. Ýòî êñòàòè â òîé êíèæå÷êå ïîäìå÷åíî - Èñòîðÿ äæàçà - ÿ êàê ïðî÷åë ñðàçó ïîäóìàë, êàê õîðîøî àâòîðû ïîäìåòèëè À ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ â ñòîðîíå - òàê ýòî çâóê Äæî Ëîâàíî, íî áîëüøå âñåãî - Ëèáìàíà Äýéâà. âîò óæ êòî ñîçäàë äåéñòâèòåëüíî èíòåðåñíûé íåïîâòîðèìûé çâóê, îí äàæ êíèæå÷êó íàïèñàë íà ýòó òåìó, ÿ òóò âûëîæèë ãäå-òî, â òåìå ïðî ñàìîó÷èòåëè ïî-ìîåìó
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õì..ñòðàííî ÿ íèêîãî èç íèõ òðåõ íå ïóòàë. Ìîæåò òîëüêî ïîíà÷àëó Áîá Ìèíöåð êñòà äàëåêî â ñòîðîíó óøåë îò ñòèëÿ Áðåêåðà. Âîò ñëóøàþ àëüáîì÷èê Abercrombie/Marc Jonson/Peter Erskine/Bob Mintzer - êðàñàâ÷èê ,íèêàêîãî Áðåêåðà â çâóêå. Ìíå áîëüøå âñåãî Áîá èìïîíèðóåò â ýòîé òðîéêå (ñàìûé ìèíèìàëèñò) |
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Ïîñëóøàéòå Ëèáìàíà ß äóìàþ ïîñëå íåãî áóäåò çàìåòíî, êàê ïîõîæ çâóê Ìèíòçåðà\\Áåðãà\\Áðåêåðà
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Tenor saxophonist Bob Berg channeled the bold dynamics of hard bop to emerge as one of contemporary jazz's most expressive and resourceful improvisers, honing a richly articulated sound bolstered by flawless technical command. Born in New York City on April 7, 1951, Berg grew up in Brooklyn, initiating piano lessons at age six. At 13, he moved to alto saxophone, first discovering jazz when a high school teacher introduced him to the music of Cannonball Adderley and Horace Silver. After dropping out of New York's High School of Performing Arts, Berg enrolled in a special non-academic curriculum at the Juilliard School of Music. In 1968, he made his professional debut touring behind Brother Jack McDuff, and by the time the 1960s drew to a close, he specialized in tenor saxophone, his subsequent creative path profoundly shaped by John Coltrane. After a brief flirtation with free jazz Berg renounced the avant-garde in favor of postwar bop. On the recommendation of fellow saxophonist Michael Brecker, he joined Silver in 1973, remaining with his boyhood hero for three years, when he replaced George Coleman in Cedar Walton's Eastern Rebellion. In 1978 Berg stepped out to record his debut LP, New Birth, and after leaving Walton in 1981 he cut his sophomore effort, Steppin': Live in Europe; he rose to new levels of renown upon joining Miles Davis in 1984, a three-year stint that set the stage for his 1987 breakout session, Short Stories. Berg closed out the decade in the band he led with co-founder/guitarist Mike Stern, cutting a series of LPs including 1988's Cycles and 1990's In the Shadows. In 1992, he signed on with Chick Corea's acoustic quartet, and that same year led his own quartet on a U.S. Department of State-sponsored tour of the Caribbean. Upon releasing the 1997 solo date Another Standard, Berg joined an acoustic reincarnation of the group Steps Ahead, and in 2000 he also joined the cooperative project the Jazz Times Superband, collaborating with Randy Brecker, Joey Defranchesco, and Dennis Chambers. Berg next surfaced alongside vibraphonist Joe Locke in the group 4 Walls of Freedom. Sadly, their eponymous debut set did not appear until after the saxophonist's death in an auto accident near his home on Long Island on December 5, 2002. ~ Jason Ankeny, All Music Guide |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
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2Leonardo Äà, âîò ÿ òîæ ïîäóìàë, ýòî æ òðîéêà êëîíîâ ïðÿì - Ìèíòçåð, Áðåêåð è Áåðã Leonardo, Íó ìèíöåð çäåñü íå êàòèò , îí èç äðóãîé îïåðû è ïî çâóêó è ïî ìàíåðå, À áðåêåð è áåðã- áëèçíåöû áðàòüÿ,çâóêó è ïî ìàíåðå, îñîáåííî â 80-90 ãã, êòî áû ÷òî íè ãîâîðèë, ïîñëóøàéòå ñàìè è âñ¸ ïîéì¸òå. íó è îáà îíè åññíî ñèäåëè â ñâîå âðåìÿ íà êîëòðåéíå |
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«Äèïëîìàò-ýòî ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé ìîæåò ïîñëàòü âàñ íà #&# òàêèì îáðàçîì, ÷òî âû ñ ïðåäâêóøåíèåì áóäåòå æäàòü ïóòåøåñòâèÿ...
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
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*** Áåäíûé Êîëòðåéí - êòî íà í¸ì òîëüêî íå ñèäåë...*** À åñëè áû íå óìåð ðàíî, ìîã áû áûòü î÷.áîãàòûì... |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîò òàê âîò... à ÿ è íå çíàë
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Àâòîðñêèå ïðàâà áû çàùèòèë íà "ñòèëü Êîëòðåéíà" è ñïàë áû ñïîêîéíî
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