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Äîìàøíåå ïåíèå â Ñìóëå
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Ìîñêâà Äîìàøíèé ãîëîñ, äèëåòàíò
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>À ÷òî òàêîå ì1? Áåëüêàíòî çíàåò, áîëüøå íèêòî íà ÌÔ. |
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Äîìàøíåå ïåíèå â Ñìóëå
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Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 10:43 |
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Êàðàáàñèõà Ïåð÷àòêè 
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>Áåëüêàíòî çíàåò, áîëüøå íèêòî íà ÌÔ. Ñåé÷àñ èñïðàâèì. Research in recent years (by Natalie Henrich and others) has identified four different Laryngeal Mechanisms, numbered from 0 to 3: M0 – where the Body and Cover are both loose. M1 – where both the Body and Cover vibrate. M2 – where the Body no longer vibrates. M3 – where the the vocal folds are very thin and very tightly stretched, and only the Cover vibrates, often with incomplete fold closure. The decision to number the Laryngeal Mechanisms rather than name them was made to move away from the confusing and inexact concepts of 'Head' and 'Chest' registers / voices. But if you want to understand Laryngeal Mechanisms in other, more familiar terms: M0 is Vocal Fry, Slack folds, Strohbass. M1 is Modal voice, Thick folds, Heavy, 'Chest voice', Mix, Middle. M2 is Thin folds, Cry, Light, Loft, 'Head' voice (sometimes confusingly called Falsetto), Mix, Middle. M3 is Whistle, Stiff folds. You'll notice that 'Mix' and 'Middle' are listed as both M1 and M2. This is because singers access their 'Mix' in different ways, as explained in this article: What is the 'Mixed' voice? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåíèå â ì1 - ýòî íàïåâàíèå
Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 10:58 |
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Êàðàáàñèõà Ïåð÷àòêè
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ß íå î÷åíü çíàþ, êàê ÷àñòè ãîëîñîâûõ ñâÿçîê íàçûâàþòñÿ ïî-ðóññêè, ýòî ìåäèöèíñêèå äåëà. Íî èäåò ðàçäåëåíèå íà òàê íàçûâàåìîå "òåëî" è "âåðõíþþ ÷àñòü". Íå çíàþ êàê ïðàâèëüíî íàçûâàåòñÿ.  Ì1 ýòî âñå âèáðèðóåò, è ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ðåæèì ïîëíîãî ãîëîñà. |
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Ñåðãåé, çäðàâñòâóéòå, âîîáùå ïîíÿòü ãäå ó âàñ Ì1 à ãäå Ì2 äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî, ïîïðîáóéòå ñäåëàòü Éîäëü íà ëþáîé íîòå, ïåðâàÿ íîòà áóäåò íà Ì1, à âòîðàÿ íà Ì2 ñêîðåå âñåãî.  ñîîáùåíèè îñòàâëþ ïàðó ìîèõ àóäèî, ñïåëà íà ñîëü ìàëîé è ñîëü ïåðâîé â äâóõ ìåõàíèçìàõ, è âòîðîå àóäèî ïåðåõîä â ìåõàíèçìàõ â èíòåðâàë áîëüøàÿ ñåêóíäà.  ïåðâîì àóäèî âû íàâåðíîå ñëûøèòå ñëàáóþ ðàçíèöó, òàê è ìíå ñëîæíî ïîíÿòü íà 100 ïðîöåíòîâ â êàêîì ìåõàíèçìå âû ñïåëè, äàòü îòâåò íà ýòîò âîïðîñ ìîæåòå âû ñàìè èëè ëàáîðàòîðèÿ. Åñëè ó ïåâöà òâîé òèï ãîëîñà è îí ïîåò âûñîêèå íîòû íà ñëóõ ìåõàíèçì ïîíÿòü ãîðàçäî ïðîùå, âî âñåõ äðóãèõ ñëó÷àÿõ ìîãóò áûòü ñîìíåíèÿ. ß âñåãäà òî÷íî ìîãó îïðåäåëèòü â êàêîì ìåõàíèçìå ïîþ è ýòî äàåò ìíå ñâîáîäó â òåõíè÷åñêîì èñïîëíåíèè ðàçíûõ ñòèëåé. |
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Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 11:23 |
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Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 11:25 |
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êíîïêà Çàãðóçèòü MP3 íå ãðóçèò ôàéëû, ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ ðåêëàìà:( Ñåðãåé, à êàê âû çàãðóæàåòå àóäèî? |
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Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 11:26 |
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Âû ïîïðîáóéòå ÷åðåç ýòîò ñàéò çàãðóçèòü è äàäèòå ïðîñòî ññûëêó. Çäåñü íà ñàéòå çàãðóçêà íåïîíÿòíî êàê ðàáîòàåò. Òîëüêî ó Ñåðãåÿ Íèêîëàåâè÷à êàê-òî ðàáîòàåò. |
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>êíîïêà Çàãðóçèòü MP3 íå ãðóçèò ôàéëû Íàäî îáÿçàòåëüíî äîæäàòüñÿ âñòàâêè êîäà â òåêñò. Íàçâàíèå ôàéëà íå äîëæíî ñîäåðæàòü ðóññêèõ ñèìâîëîâ, âñÿêèõ çàïÿòûõ, ïðîáåëîâ. |
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Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 11:37 |
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Êòî ýòîò ÷åëîâåê êîòîðûé ïðèíåñ ýòîò áðåä ïî ì1 è ì2 íà ôîðóì? ׸ ãîëîâó áðåäîì çàáèâàòü. Ïî õîðîøåìó âîêàëèñòó âîîáùå íå íàäî çíàòü ÷î è ÷åì îí ïîåò, íå ìèêñòû íå ãîëîâíÿêè. Äîñòàòî÷íî äâå êàòåãîðèè èñïîëüçîâàòü: 1)Ãîëîñ 2)Ôàëüöåò Âñå! |
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Ìîñêâà Äîìàøíèé ãîëîñ, äèëåòàíò
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>êíîïêà Çàãðóçèòü MP3 íå ãðóçèò ôàéëû, ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ ðåêëàìà:( >Ñåðãåé, à êàê âû çàãðóæàåòå àóäèî? Íàçâàíèå ôàéëà íà àíãëèéñêîì èëè öèôðû. Íå äîëæíî áûòü ðóññêèõ áóêâ â íàçâàíèè. |
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Äîìàøíåå ïåíèå â Ñìóëå
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåíèå â ì1 - ýòî íàïåâàíèå
Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 13:37 |
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Äîáàâèëà â ìîé ãóãë îòêðûòûå ññûëêè: Ì1 íà Ì2 Áîëüøàÿ ñåêóíäà Ì1 íà Ì2 Ñîëü ìàëîé ñîëü ïåðâîé Ì3 Ñâèñòêîâûé ðåãèñòð, êðàéíÿÿ ëÿ áåìîëü 3 Ì3 ×åðíîâèê Öàðèöà íî÷è |
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Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 14:03 |
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Ê ñëîâó, ýñòðàäíûé áåëòèíã ìîæåò áûòü òîëüêî íà Ì1 >Êòî ýòîò ÷åëîâåê êîòîðûé ïðèíåñ ýòîò áðåä ïî ì1 è ì2 íà ôîðóì? ׸ ãîëîâó áðåäîì çàáèâàòü. Ïî õîðîøåìó âîêàëèñòó âîîáùå íå íàäî çíàòü ÷î è ÷åì îí ïîåò, íå ìèêñòû íå ãîëîâíÿêè. Äîñòàòî÷íî äâå êàòåãîðèè èñïîëüçîâàòü: 1)Ãîëîñ 2)Ôàëüöåò Çàðàíåå ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ ó àäåïòîâ âûøåîïèñàííîé êîíöåïöèè, íî ÿ íå òåíîð è ìíå òåðÿòü â îáùåì òî íå÷åãî. Îñìåëþñü âûñêàçàòü ãèïîòåçó (åñòü âåðîÿòíîñòü ÷òî îøèáàþñü), ÷òî òåíîðà â àêàäåì âîêàëå êàê è ñîïðàíî, äîâîëüíî ðàíî âûõîäÿò â Ì2 è äàëåå â ìåõàíèçìå ñìûêàíèÿ ñâÿçîê íè÷åãî íå ìåíÿþò, à òî ÷òî íà êðàéíèõ âåðõàõ ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ôàëüöåò, òàê ýòî ïðîñòî êðàñêà. Äàëåå äâèãàÿñü â ýòîé ãèïîòåçå îñìåëþñü ïðåäïîëîæèòü ÷òî çíàìåíèòîé äî äè ïåòòî íå ñóùåñòâóåò, ñâÿçî÷íûé ìåõàíèçì è â ôàëüöåòå è â äî äè ïåòòî îäèí è òîò æå è ýòî Ì2. Ýòî âñåãî ëèøü ïðåäïîëîæåíèå, íàäåþñü â ëàáîðàòîðèè êîãäà íèáóäü âûÿñíÿò ýòîò âîïðîñ. |
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Âðåìÿ: 06.05.2020 14:19 |
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Ìîñêâà Äîìàøíèé ãîëîñ, äèëåòàíò
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>Äîáàâèëà â ìîé ãóãë îòêðûòûå ññûëêè: >Ì1 íà Ì2 Áîëüøàÿ ñåêóíäà >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MdJ0S8JGBF8YJOyd a i7rpj84MoOm55Fz/view?usp=shari...iew?usp=sharing >Ì1 íà Ì2 Ñîëü ìàëîé ñîëü ïåðâîé >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pLz5Sqdt6kvbzJjG h HA-mfGWuQ6j06Pf/view?usp=shari...iew?usp=sharing >Ì3 Ñâèñòêîâûé ðåãèñòð, êðàéíÿÿ ëÿ áåìîëü 3 >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j8R6HHtAq4gwZ7Lg b ySiVlLgTj_rU2mY/view?usp=shari...iew?usp=sharing >Ì3 ×åðíîâèê Öàðèöà íî÷è >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bjdwLIl76ipfc_ba P OBBSxiTl5jcp3xE/view?usp=shari...iew?usp=sharing Äàæå íå çíàþ, ÷òî ñêàçàòü. Äèàïàçîí áîëüøîé. Ñìûêàíèå òâåðäîå. |
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Äîìàøíåå ïåíèå â Ñìóëå
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Ðèì ïåäàãîã ïî âîêàëó 🎤
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>Äèàïàçîí áîëüøîé. ñî øòðîáàñîì áóäåò ïî÷òè ïÿòü îêòàâ, íî ýòî íå ÿ, à ñâÿçî÷íûå ìåõàíèçìû, è îíè åñòü ó âñåõ ëþäåé |
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