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ýýýý, à ÷òî òàêîãî òî? íó äà, ïðîçðà÷íîå ëèìèòèðîâàíèå, íó è øî, îò ýòîãî çâóê ñòàíîâèöî òîêà ìîùíåå  | 
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Íî ÷àñòîòêà-òî óðåçàåòñÿ. Ýòî èñêàæåíèÿ. Ìíå çâóê ñîâðåìåííûõ ñèäþêîâ êàæåòñÿ ñëèøêîì æåñòêèì. Âèíèë - âîò ýòàëîí. Õîòÿ òóò äåëî âêóñà.  | 
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Êîðî÷å, íàäî ìíå åùå è âåðòóøêó äëÿ âèíèëà ïîêóïàòü.  | 
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> Íî ÷àñòîòêà-òî óðåçàåòñÿ. Ýòî èñêàæåíèÿ. Ãðàìîòíî óðåçàåòñÿ ïðè ìàñòåðèíãå  | 
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êñòàòè. ïîìíþ êàê òåáå ðàç çà ðàçîì âñå áîëåå íðàâèëèñü óäàðíûå â "çìåå". ñêàæó ÷òî ÿ òàì íè÷åãî íå ïåðåñâîäèë, òîêà ýêâàëàéçèë ìèêñ, è ñ êàæäûì ðàçîì âñå ñèëüíåå êîìïðåññèë  | 
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Ìíå íðàâèëîñü, ÷òî îíè ÷åò÷å çâó÷àëè íà áàçå, ïîòîìó ÷òî ñ ýòèì ïðîùå áûëî ðàáîòàòü. À íà ñâîåé àïïàðàòóðå ÿ íå ñðàâíèâàë. Íàñ÷åò ìîùíîñòè - íå âî âñåé ìóçûêå îíà íóæíà, òóò îò ñòèëÿ çàâèñèò.  òÿæåëûõ âåùàõ ýòî ìîæåò ïîòðåáîâàòüñÿ, ôàêò. Íî, ïî ëþáîìó, ñîâðåìåííûå ñòàíäàðòû çâó÷àíèÿ ìåíÿ íå øèáêî ðàäóþò - ñëûøíà êàæäàÿ äåòàëü, íî çâóê íååñòåñòâåííûé. Âèíèë áûë âñåì õîðîø, êðîìå òîãî, ÷òî ïèëèëñÿ (èìõî). Ê ñëîâó ãîâîðÿ, ÿïîíöû íèêîãäà íå ïåðåæèìàþò çâóê.  | 
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Ïîíÿòèå ìîùíîñòè âîîáùå ñóáúåêòèâíîå. Íàïðèìåð, ìíå íðàâÿòñÿ ãëóõèå è ìÿãêèå âèíèëîâûå íèçû, â íèõ íåò ëèøíåãî æåëåçà, íî åñòü êàêàÿ-òî ñèëà. Ïîìíþ, êàê çâó÷àë ðîäíîé "Ôîêñòðîò" Äæåíåçèñà íà àìåðèêàíñêîì âèíèëå - ñêàçêà. Íî âîîáùå ðå÷ü íå îá ýòîì. Ïî ëþáîìó íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü, êàê óðåçàíèå ÷àñòîòêè ìîæåò óëó÷øèòü çâóê.  | 
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îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå - àâòîð îôèãåë òîëüêî êîãäà óâèäåë ýòè êàðòèíêè, äî ýòîãî  ìîìåíòà åìó áûëî ïîõ Êåðóàê, òû ñåé÷àñ ñàì ñåáÿ íàéîáûâàåøü òî÷íî òàêîé æå "êâàäðàòíûé ìàñòåðèíã" ìîæíî ñäåëàòü è íà âèíèëå íà òåõ ñêðèíøîòàõ ïî ñóòè ïîêàçàíà ýâîëþöèÿ êîìïðåññîðîâ, íà ñàìîì äåëå èñêàæåíèÿ çâóêà ìèíèìàëüíû è îñíîâíîì íàõîäÿòñÿ â ñàìîì íèæíåì ðåãèñòðå (êàê âèäíî íà êàðòèíêàõ) ãäå îíè íå çàìåòíû íà ñëóõ, ïðîñòî ñîâðåìåííûé ìíîãîïîëîñíûé êîìïðåññîð ðàâíîìåðíî çàïîëíÿåò äèàïàçîí è â èòîãå ìîæåò äàâàòü òàêóþ "ñòðàøíóþ" îãèáàþùóþ, à ÷óâàê êîòîðûé âûëîæèë ýòè êàðòèíêè íå îñîáî ñå÷¸ò ôèøêó, âîò åìó è ñòðàøíî ñ íåïðèâû÷êè  | 
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>îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå - àâòîð îôèãåë òîëüêî êîãäà óâèäåë ýòè êàðòèíêè, äî ýòîãî ìîìåíòà åìó áûëî ïîõ Íå ñêàçàë áû... Íå äàëåå êàê ïîçàâ÷åðà êóïèë á/ó "ïåðâà÷" Ïèòåðà Ãðèíà "Èí çå Ñêàéç", à çàêîìïðåññîâàííûé ðåìàñòåð ïðîäàþ. Òà æå ôèãíÿ åùå ñ íåñêîëüêèìè äèñêàìè. À ýòó ññûëêó ïîëó÷èë çà 5 ìèíóò äî ïîñòà. Òàê ÷òî íå íàäî èíñåíóàöèé. À âèíèëà ÄÌ ó ìåíÿ íåò, òàê ÷òî ñðàâíèòü ñ ñèäþêîì íèêàê íå ìîãó. Ìîæåò, åñëè ê êîíöó ãîäà âåðòóøêó êóïëþ, òîãäà ñðàâíþ.  | 
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Çàáûë ñêàçàòü. >òî÷íî òàêîé æå "êâàäðàòíûé ìàñòåðèíã" ìîæíî ñäåëàòü è íà âèíèëå Ýòî åæó ïîíÿòíî. Íî íå äåëàëè æå.  | 
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                                    ...âïðî÷åì, ñ Ãðèíîì äåëî ìîæåò áûòü è íå â êîìïðåññèè. Íî ôàêò íàëèöî: ïåðâà÷ çâó÷èò ïðîçðà÷íî è îáúåìíî, ïðè òîì, ÷òî âñ¸ ñëûøíî, à ðåìàñòåð ïðÿìî òàêè îãðûçàåòñÿ äåòàëÿìè, æåëåçîì íèçîâ è ïðîíçèòåëüíûìè âåðõàìè. | |
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ïðîñòî ïîòîìó ÷òî ñîôòîâûõ êîìïðåññîðîâ òîãäà íå ñóùåñòâîâàëî, â ïîï-ìóçûêå  âñåãäà ñòðåìèëèñü äîáèòüñÿ èìåííî òàêîãî ýôôåêòà íàïðèìåð ñîâðåìåííûå àêóñòè÷åñêèå/àêàäåìè÷åñêèå/äæàçîâûå çàïèñè âûãëÿäÿò ïî îãèáàþùåé òàê æå êàê è ðàíüøå, òàêîé ìàñòåðèíã íà íèõ íå äåëàþò  | 
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ïóòàíî íàïèñàë, ñàìîìó íèõåðà íå ïîíÿòíî))) êîðî÷å, Äæåê, îòêðîé íà êîìïå âåéâ ñ cd êàêîãî-íèáóäü ñîâðåìåííîãî áëþçìåíà è óâèäèøü ÷òî òàì âñ¸ îê è âîîáùå òû óæå çàäðàë âñåõ ñðàâíåíèåì âèíèëà ñ ìï3, ïåðåõîäè óæå íà dvd-audio 192/24 íàêîíåö, ðàññêàæè íàì êàê îíî óéîáåùíî çâó÷èò ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ âîñêîâûìè âàëèêàìè)))  | 
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Îäíàêî ìàñòåðèíã Ñòèâà Õîôôìàíà ïðîäîëæàåò öåíèòüñÿ áîëüøå, ÷åì ïîñëåäíèå ïåðåèçäàíèÿ. ßïîíöû ñ SDCD òîæå õîðîøî çâó÷àò. Åñëè ãîâîðèòü ïðî ñîâðåìåííóþ ïîï-ìóçûêó, â íåé îáû÷íî ìíîãî ýëåêòðîíèêè, ïîýòîìó ôèã çíàåò, êàê îíà äîëæíà ïðàâèëüíî çâó÷àòü. Íî, èìõî, Àòöû ýòîé ìóçûêè çàïèñûâàëèñü â 70-å è ðàíüøå, ïîýòîìó â òå ãîäû áûëè çàëîæåíû è êàêèå-òî ñòàíäàðòû çâó÷àíèÿ, è íà íèõ ñòîèò òàê èëè èíà÷å îãëÿäûâàòüñÿ. Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, â ñîâðåìåííóþ ìóçûêó è ñòàíäàðòû çàêëàäûâàþòñÿ ñåãîäíÿ, íà òî îíà è ñîâðåìåííàÿ. À ñòàðèêîâ ÿ îäíîçíà÷íî ïðåäïî÷òó ïîñëóøàòü â ïåðâîèçäàíèÿõ, çà ðåäêèì èñêëþ÷åíèåì, î êîòîðîì çäåñü ãîâîðèòü íå ñòÎèò - ýòî óæå äðóãàÿ òåìà.  | 
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Ìàêñ, îá ìï3 âîîáùå ðå÷è íå øëî - ÿ ñëóøàþ ýòîò ôîðìàò ðåäêî è òîëüêî â ñëó÷àå íåîáõîäèìîñòè. Ðå÷ü î ìàñòåðèíãå êîìïàêò-äèñêîâ - íå áîëüøå, íå ìåíüøå.  | 
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Áëèí, ìîæåò, ó ìåíÿ ïóòàíî ïîëó÷èëîñü, íî òåìà íå î êðóòèçíå õàé-ôàÿ è íå î òîì, ÷òî ìï3 - ãàâíî.  | 
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ÿ å¸ â ïåðâûé ðàç óâèäåë ãîäà äâà íàçàä, è òîæå î÷åíü óäèâèëñÿ, à ïîòîì ïîíÿë ÷òî  ýòî íà ñàìîì äåëå ôèãíÿ, ýòî ïðîñòî ðåçóëüòàò òîãî ÷òî ñîôòîâûå ìàêñèìàéçåðû ðåàãèðóþò íà ñèãíàë âî ìíîãî ðàç áûñòðåé æåëåçíûõ êîìïðåññîðîâ à èñêàæåíèé äîôèãà è íà äðóãèõ íîñèòåëÿõ, õîðîøèé ëàìïîâûé óñèëèòåëü òîæå ïî-ñâîåìó êîìïðåññèðóåò è èñêàæàåò ñèãíàë  | 
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                                    ÿ áû ñêàçàë, ÷òî â ýòîì åñòü ñâîè ïëþñû è ìèíóñû... ïëþñû - áîëåå ïëîòíîå çâó÷àíèå è ò.ä. à ìèíóñ, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, ýòî òî, ÷òî âñå ñîâðåìåííûå, îñîáåííî çàïàäíûå ãðóïïû ñòàëè çâó÷àòü îäèíàêîâî.. òåðÿåòñÿ óíèêàëüíîñòü ñàóíäà îòäåëüíîé ãðóïïû.. õîòÿ â îñíîâíîì ýòî êàñàåòñÿ ðîê è ìåòàëë ãðóïï | |
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ýòî òåáå êàæåòñÿ, ïîòîìó ÷òî òû òîëüêî òàêóþ êóéíþ è ñëóøàåøü åñëè âçÿòü òîïîâûå ìåòàëüíûå ãðóïïû, íàïðèìåð in flames, mudwayne èëè meshuggah, òî âñå îíè çâó÷àò ïî-ðàçíîìó, à ïèîíåðû âñåãäà êîïèðîâàëè ÷óæîé ñàóíä, íàïðèìåð â 60-å â êàëèôîðíèè áûëî äîôèãà ãðóïï ñî çâóêîì êàê ó beach boys ìàêñèìèçàöèÿ íèêàê íå âëèÿåò íà òåìáðàëüíóþ ñîñòàâëÿþùóþ, íàïðèìåð âåéâñîâñêèå ìàêñèìàéçåðû ðàáîòàþò ñ çàäåðæêîé, çà âðåìÿ êîòîðîé ïðîñòî òóïî àíàëèçèðóþò ïèê è ïîäãîíÿþò åãî ïîä ïîòîëîê ïî ãðîìêîñòè, ìîæíî ñäåëàòü "êâàäðàòíûé ìàñòåðèíã" Ìîòðå Õî÷åò Ñïàòü è ó íèõ âñ¸ ðàâíî îñòàíåòñÿ àáñîëþòíî òàêîé æå ñàóíä, ïðîñòî îí áóäåò "ãðîì÷å"; ïîñëåäíèé àëüáîì DM çâó÷èò òàê æå ïî-äåïåøìîäîâñêè ñâîåîáðàçíî, èõ çâó÷àíèå âåäü íå ñòàëî ïîõîæèì íà Ìàäîííó  
                                        
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                                    äàëáàéîï,####íþ ñëóøàåøü òû.. à ÿ ñåé÷àñ ãîâîðþ ïðî òàêèå êîìàíäû êàê Incubus, Nickelback è ò.ä. åñëè òû ñ÷èòàåøü ýòè êîìàíäû ïèîíåðñêèìè. òî èäè ëå÷èñü, óêóðîê, íàõ | |
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                                            Ìîñêâà Îäíàêî, ãèòàðû.  | 
                                    Ãèäð@ëèñê, íà ìîé ñëóõ Èíêóáóñ è Íèêåëáåê - ðàçíûå çâó÷àíèÿ...êîíåøíî â îäíîé òåìå, íî îíè ðàçíûå... | |
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                                    Ìàéêè ÿ ãîâîðþ èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî ïðî ìàíåðó ñâåäåíèÿ è ìàñòåðèíãà.. ïðîñòî ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ ÿ çàìå÷àþ ïîÿâëåíèå íåêîåãî íîâîãî "ñòàíäàðòà" çâó÷àíèÿ.. åñëè òóïî àóäèàëüíî òî ýòî ïîÿâëåíèå íàâÿç÷èâîé "ñåðåäèíû".. äà è ïðîñòî çâó÷àíèå èíñòðóìåíòîâ.. ïî÷òè âñå ñåé÷àñ èñïîëüçóþò "øèïÿùåå" æåëåçî, ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî îäèíàêîâûé "ìîäíûé" òåìáð ïåðåãðóçà íà ãèòàðàõ, è ò.ä. ìíå íàïðèìåð òàêîå çâó÷àíèå íðàâèòñÿ, íî ÿ ñòàë çàìå÷àòü íåêîòîðîåîäíîîáðàçèå èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî â ïëàíå ìàñòåðèíã\\çàïèñü\\ñâåäåíèå.. ìóçûêà çäåñü íå ïðè÷¸ì.. | |
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Íàñ÷¸ò ñåðåäèíû ñîãëàñåí. Çà ïðèìåðàìè äàëåêî õîäèòü íå íàäî, ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ íàôèãà èñïàãàíèëè çâóê ó òàêèõ êîìàíä êàê Slipknot, Every Time I Die,... Meshuggah ïðîñòî ïîðàçèëà,.. Èç ðû÷àùåãî ïèëîîáðàçíîãî ðîêîòà, ïëàñòìàññîâûé, ë¸ãêèé... ôó...  | 
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                                    À ìíå âàùå íåðåàëüíî íðàâèöî çâóêàí ÏëåèíãÝíæåëà!!! Î÷åíü è î÷åíü êðóòî ñäåëàíî!!! | |
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                                            Flowershop, Íèê Steinberger GU-7R, GU-Standard, Fender Strat, Cort M-LTD SB.  | 
                                    Âûçûâàéòå ñêîðóþ è â áîëüíè÷êó;) | |
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                                    à ìíå çâóê The Good The Bad & The Queen íðàâèòñÿ ÷òî áîæýæòûìîé... | |
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                                    "×òî ýòî çà ãîíåâî? Ïóñòü ðàññêàæåò îá ýòîì Áàððè Äàéìåíòó è Ñòèâó Õîôôìàíó. Çàîäíî ìîèì óøàì. Êîòîðûå ïîíìèàþò, ÷òî óæàñ êîìïðåññèè - íå â èñêàæåíèè, à â äàâëåíèè íà ñëóõ, èçëèøíåé äåòàëüíîñòè è ãðîìêîñòè". | |
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"èçëèøíåé äåòàëüíîñòè è ãðîìêîñòè" à òåïåðü âîçìè êîëîíêè 'Genius' çà 100 ð, èëè ìàãíèòîôîí-ìûëüíèöó, è ñðàâíè çàïèñè íà íèõ. äàâëåíèÿ íà óøè íå áóäåò âñå ðàâíî íèãäå êðîìå íàóøíèêîâ, à âîò ñëóøàòüñÿ ëó÷øå áóäåò ëèìèòèðîâàííàÿ 'êâàäðàòíàÿ' çàïèñü.  | 
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Ýòî ÿ öèòèðîâàë. Òî åñòü, ñîâðåìåííûé çâóê ðàñ÷èòàí íà äåøåâûå êîëîíêè è áóìáîêñû?  | 
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                                    Äåëî-òî â òîì, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê ñëóøàåò ìóçûêó íà ïðèëè÷íîé àïïàðàòóðå. Äà è ÿ òîæå. È ìíîãî äðóãèõ ëþäåé. À ëþäè, êîòîðûå ïîëüçóþòñÿ Ãåíèóñîì çà 100 ð., î çâóêå âðÿä ëè çàáîòÿòñÿ. | |
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"Òî åñòü, ñîâðåìåííûé çâóê ðàñ÷èòàí íà äåøåâûå êîëîíêè è áóìáîêñû?" È íà íèõ òîæå! " À ëþäè, êîòîðûå ïîëüçóþòñÿ Ãåíèóñîì çà 100 ð., î çâóêå âðÿä ëè çàáîòÿòñÿ." ß ïîëüçóþñü ãåíèóñîì çà 150 ð.  | 
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                                    à âû åùå ïîïðîáóéòå òàê ñæàòü ïèñòàòî, êàê äåïåøà? à? ïèëÿòü äà à ÷åì ÿ ãîâîðþ âàùå))) âû ïîïðîáóéòå òàê çàïåñàòü åïòà))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) øîï òàê ñæàëîñü êðàñèâà))) | |
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>È íà íèõ òîæå! Ýòî ïîíÿòíî. ß èìåë â âèäó - èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî íà íèõ. Íå ñ÷èòàþ ýòî ïðàâèëüíûì. >ß ïîëüçóþñü ãåíèóñîì çà 150 ð. Âñ¸ æå íå çà 100. Íàâåðíîå, èñïîëüçîâàíèå òîáîþ ýòèõ êîëîíîê ÷åì-òî îïðàâäàíî, ïîòîìó ÷òî òû íå áóäåøü äåëàòü ÷òî-ëèáî íåîáäóìàííî. Íî ðàçâå ïëîõà èäåÿ ñòóäèéíûõ ìîíèòîðîâ, åñëè ãîâîðèòü î ñâåäåíèè? ×òî òàêîå RMS?  | 
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                                     îáùåì, îñíîâíàÿ ìîÿ ìûñëü â ýòîì òîïå íàêîíåö ðîäèëàñü: õîðîøàÿ ìóûçêà äîëæíà õîðîøî çâó÷àòü íà ñèñòåìå ëþáîãî êëàññà, ïîñêîëüêó òåõíîëîãèè ýòî ïîçâîëÿþò. | |
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                                            DEAD MONKEYS Rothmans & Burny  | 
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                                            DEAD MONKEYS Rothmans & Burny  | 
                                    à åùå ÿ ñåé÷àñ ïîñòàâèë êàññåòó Åãîðà è Î####åíåâøèõ. Âîò ýòî çàìå÷àòåëüíûé çâóê. | |
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íå ìîãó áèòëç íà êîìïå ñëóøàòü. òîëüêî íà ïëàñòèíêàõ. à ñëèïíîò íà ïëàñòèíêå ÷òî-òî íå î÷åíü ïðåäñòàâëÿþ  | 
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" ìîùíîñòü àêóñòè÷åñêîé ñèñòåìû - õàðàêòåðèñòèêà, óêàçûâàåìàÿ ïðîèçâîäèòåëåì â ïàñïîðòå èëè íà óïàêîâî÷íîé êîðîáêå àêóñòè÷åñêîé ñèñòåìû. Íåñìîòðÿ íà øèðîêî ðàñïðîñòðàíåííîå ìíåíèå, íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ õàðàêòåðèñòèêîé ìàêñèìàëüíîé ãðîìêîñòè çâóêà. Íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûå ñòàíäàðòû, â êîòîðûõ óêàçûâàåòñÿ ìîùíîñòü àêóñòè÷åñêèõ ñèñòåì - RMS è PMPO. ìîùíîñòü àêóñòè÷åñêîé ñèñòåìû â RMS (Root Mean Squared - ñðåäíåêâàäðàòè÷íîå çíà÷åíèå ìîùíîñòè) - ïàðàìåòð, îáû÷íî èçìåðÿåìûé ïîäà÷åé ñèíóñîèäàëüíîãî ñèãíàëà ÷àñòîòîé 1000 Ãö äî äîñòèæåíèÿ îïðåäåëåííîãî óðîâíÿ íåëèíåéíûõ èñêàæåíèé. Ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî àêóñòè÷åñêàÿ ñèñòåìà ïðè ïîäâåäåíèè ê íåé ñèãíàëà óêàçàííîé ýëåêòðè÷åñêîé ìîùíîñòè ìîæåò ðàáîòàòü äëèòåëüíîå âðåìÿ áåç ìåõàíè÷åñêèõ ïîâðåæäåíèé äèíàìè÷åñêîé ãîëîâêè. ìîùíîñòü àêóñòè÷åñêîé ñèñòåìû â PMPO (Peak Music Power Output - ïèêîâàÿ ìóçûêàëüíàÿ ìîùíîñòü) - ïàðàìåòð, èçìåðåííûé ïîäà÷åé êðàòêîâðåìåííîãî (äëèòåëüíîñòüþ ìåíåå 1 ñåêóíäû) ñèíóñîèäàëüíîãî ñèãíàëà ÷àñòîòîé íèæå 250 Ãö (îáû÷íî ïîäàåòñÿ 100 Ãö). Ïðè ýòîì íå ó÷èòûâàåòñÿ óðîâåíü íåëèíåéíûõ èñêàæåíèé, à êðèòåðèåì ïðîõîæäåíèÿ òåñòà ÿâëÿåòñÿ îòñóòñòâèå ìåõàíè÷åñêèõ ïîâðåæäåíèé äèíàìè÷åñêîé ãîëîâêè. " ß âîò òîæå ëþáëþ âèíèë. Æàëü, óñèëîê íàêðûëñÿ. Íàäî ïðåäîõðàíèòåëü çàìåíèòü, à ÿ óæå âñå ñïàëèë, ÷òî áûëè â çàïàñå ñ ñîâåòñêèõ âðåìåí. Íàäî á â êàêîé-íèáóäü "×èï è Äèï" íàâåäàòüñÿ, à âëîì.  | 
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                                            Ìîñêâà Bartlett  | 
                                    
                                        
ÿ ñëóøàþ è ÑÄ, è âèíèë - ïî íàñòðîåíèþ. Ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî âèíèë äåéñòâóåò áëàãîòâîðíî íà ïñèõèêó, õîòÿ ìíîãîå çàâèñèò è îò ìóçûêàëüíîãî ìàòåðèàëà )) Ïåðåêîìïðåññèðîâàííûå çàïèñè ýòî óæàñíî è íå ìóçûêàëüíî - êîãäà íåò äèíàìèêè â çâóêå, òî òàêîå âïå÷àòëåíèå. ÷òî ñëóøàåøü ñîâêîâîå ðàäèî  | 
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                                    Â÷åðà ïðèîáðåë ÿïîíñêèé óñèëîê 88 ã. Sansui 607 extra. Âîò, ìàòü ÷åñòíàÿ, ýòî - ÇÂÓÊ! Òåïåðü ïðèäåòñÿ ðàñêîøåëèâàòüñÿ íà ñèäþê è êîëîíêè. | |
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                                    Òàê, òóïëþ. Õîòåë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íà ýòîì óñèëêå ñóõîñòü è ïëîñêîñòü çâóêà "ðåìàñòåðîâ" âñïëûëè ïî ïîëíîé ïðîãðàììå. À "ïåðâà÷è" çâó÷àò êëàññíî, êàê ñóêèíû äåòè. | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 22.02.2007 17:36  | 
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                                            SPb programmin’, effectin’, beatmakin’, brainf#ckin’  | 
                                    
                                        
Õîòÿ, êîíå÷íî, ëó÷øå ËÞÁÎÉ êîìïàêò, ÷åì ýòîò ï-ö ïîä íàçâàíèåì ìï3.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 09:25  | 
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>  Õîòÿ, êîíå÷íî, ëó÷øå ËÞÁÎÉ êîìïàêò, ÷åì ýòîò ï-ö ïîä íàçâàíèåì ìï3.  Íàïðèìåð êîìïàêò, çàïèñàíûé ñ mp3 )))  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 12:02  | 
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                                            Moscow electro grooves  | 
                                    
                                        
>Íàïðèìåð êîìïàêò, çàïèñàíûé ñ mp3 ))) ß óæ è çàáûë, ÷òî òàê äåëàåòñÿ - íå óâëåêàþñü ïîäîáíûì óæå ëå ïÿòü êàê ìèíèìóì. Êñòàòè - ê ïðèëè÷íîé ñèñòåìå ìîæíî æå è ìï3-ïëååð ïîäêëþ÷èòü. Íî ýòî óæå îôôòîï.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 16:36  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 20:46  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 20:58  | 
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                                            Îáðåçàííûå ïåéñû Âûòÿãèâàþ ïèñüêó äÿòëà è áðåí÷ó ![]()  | 
                                    
                                        
áîëâàíêà, êëåâà, çâó÷èò  
                                        
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 21:03  | 
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                                            Ìîñêâà piano, melodica  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 21:52  | 
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                                    êñòàòè, êàê-òî ïåðåïèñàë ñ áîëâàíêè ÌÐ3 íà ñâîåì öåíòðå îäèí àëüáîì÷èê íà ïðîñòóþ àóäèî êàññåòó è ìíå äàæå ïîêàçàëîñü, ÷òî çàïèñü íà àóäèî êàññåòå çàçâó÷àëà äàæå êðó÷å ÷åì ñàì îðèãèíàë ÌÐ3. ìîæ ìíå ïðîñòî òàê ïîêàçàëîñü, ìîæåò áûòü ýòî ÷èñòî íà ïñèõîëîãè÷åñêîì óðîâíå. íå çíàþ. íî ïî ìíå òàê ñëóøàòü ìóçûêó íà ÌÐ3 - ýòî îäíî è òîæå, ÷òî òðàõàòü áàáó ñ ïðåçèêîì. | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 21:57  | 
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                                            SPb programmin’, effectin’, beatmakin’, brainf#ckin’  | 
                                    
                                        
Îëåã, íó òû îòæåã! Îòëè÷íîå ñðàâíåíèå!  | 
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  We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land. 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2007 22:00  | 
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                                             ÏüÿíüÐâàíüÄðÿíü  | 
                                    Oleg G, À ïèâî ó òåáÿ òîæå íå âêóñíîå? | |
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  ß ÍÅ ñ Ïèò.òóñîâêè!!! 
Ìàëîëåòíÿÿ øàëàâà!  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 25.02.2007 00:41  | 
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                                    íîðìàëüíà, òàê è íàäà | |
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