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Òåìà: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 21.03.2007 16:06 |
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Ïîòîðìîøó åù¸: Ãëàâíåéøàÿ òåìà â ýëåêòðîííîé ìóçûêå-ýòî òåõíèêà ãðóâèðîâêè ìèäè ìàòåðèàëà("Groove",êðîìå âñåõ îñòàëüíûõ çíà÷åíèé, èìååò åùå è òàêîå çíà÷åíèå, êàê øàáëîí èëè êîëåÿ. ïîýòîìó ñïîñîá êâàíòàéçà ïî ðèòìè÷åñêîìó øàáëîíó íàçûâàåòñÿ Ãðóâ-Êâàíòàéç.  áîëüøèíñòâå ñåêâåíñîðîâ ñóùåñòâóåò íàáîð íàèáîëåå ÷àñòî èñïîëüçóåìûõ ãðóâîâ. Êðîìå òîãî, â ïðîäàæå åñòü ñïåöèàëüíûå ñáîðíèêè ãðóâîâ: DNA grooves , â êîòîðûå ìîãóò âõîäèòü øàáëîíû ñ çàïèñåé èçâåñòíûõ ìóçûêàíòîâ..) Ê ñîæàëåíèþ,DNA grooves ó íàñ â íàðîäå ïî÷òè íå õîäÿò(õîòÿ â çàïàäíûõ æå ñòóäèÿõ,îíè îáû÷íàÿ ïðàêòèêà). Ïðîäàâàåìûå ãðóâû íåñóò â ñåáå ðèòìè÷åñêóþ ôîðìóëó óñïåøíî ïðîäàííûõ ïðîåêòîâ è íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ ê èñòèííîìó æèâîìó èñïîëíèòåëüñòâó íå èìåþò. Ýòî îäèí èç èíñòðóìåíòîâ øîó-èíäóñòðèè äëÿ îôîðìëåíèÿ,óïàêîâêè è äàëüíåéøåãî ïðîäâèæåíèÿ òîâàðà ñ öåëüþ ïîëó÷åíèÿ "ìàíè-ìàíè". Âåäóùèå ìóçûêàëüíûå ñòóäèè âåäóò íàñòîÿùóþ áîðüáó çà çâ¸çä-ñåññèîííèêîâ,èíäèâèäóàëüíûé ñòóäèéíûé òðåê êîòîðûõ áåçæàëîñòíî ïðåïàðèðóåòñÿ(ðàçðåçàåòñÿ íà êóñî÷êè)è ñ íåãî ñíèìàåòñÿ ýêñêëþçèâíûé ãðóâ,äëÿ íàêëàäûâàíèÿ íà îñòàëüíûå àêêîìïàíèðóþùèå òðåêè ñîçäàâàåìîãî ïðîäóêòà.È åñëè ïðîåêò ñòàíîâèòñÿ óñïåøíûì,ãðóâ ïàêóåòñÿ â áèáëèîòåêè è ñ ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåé ðåêëàìîé ïðîäà¸òñÿ íà âòîðè÷íûé ðûíîê. Òàêèõ ìóçûêàíòîâ-ãðóâîâèñòîâ íå òàê óæ ìíîãî.Âñå îíè íàïåðå÷¸ò.Ïîíÿòü ÷òî è êàê îíè òâîðÿò,èõ ôîðìóëó óñïåõà íåëüçÿ-ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî íå ìàòåìàòèêà(ìàòåìàòèêà-ýòî óæå ïîòîì,êîãäà ãðóâ ðàáîòàåò íà äðóãèõ â ñåêâåíñîðå). Íî åñëè âñ¸ æå èõ äîñòàë(èëè êóïèë,÷òî íå ä¸øåâî),òî êàê DNA grooves ïðèìåíÿòü ãðàìîòíî? Âîò â ÷¸ì âîïðîñ. öèòàòêà: «Ñåêâåíñîð âîñïðîèçâîäèò çâóêè íåêâàíòèçèðîâàííîé áàðàáàííîé ïàðòèè òî÷íî â äîëþ. Áàðàáàíùèêè ìîãóò èãðàòü íåêîòîðûå çâóêè ðàíüøå èëè ïîçæå äîëè. Ýòî íàçûâàåòñÿ "èãðîé âïåðåä" èëè "èãðîé íàçàä". Ïðè ýòîì íå ïðîèñõîäèò óñêîðåíèå èëè çàìåäëåíèå òåìïà, òàê êàê äðóãèå íîòû èãðàþòñÿ â äîëþ. Íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûå ñïîñîáû: èãðàòü ñ îïåðåæåíèåì çâóêè, ïðèõîäÿùèåñÿ íà ïåðâóþ è òðåòüþ äîëþ, èëè ñ çàïàçäûâàíèåì - ïðèõîäÿùèåñÿ íà âòîðóþ è ÷åòâåðòóþ äîëþ. ×àñòî èñïîëüçóåòñÿ ïðèåì, êîãäà çâóêè õåòà èëè òàðåëêè ïîñòîÿííî èãðàþòñÿ ñ îïåðåæåíèåì, à ìàëîãî áàðàáàíà - ñ çàïàçäûâàíèåì ("ñ îòòÿæêîé"). Èìåííî òî, êàê ýòî äåëàåò áàðàáàíùèê, è ñîñòàâëÿåò åãî èíäèâèäóàëüíûé "äðàéâ" èëè ðèòìè÷åñêèé ïîñûë, âêëàäûâàåìûé èì â èñïîëíÿåìóþ ïàðòèþ» Íî! Îáùåèçâåñòíî,÷òîáû ãðóâ ïðàâèëüíî äåéñòâîâàë íåîáõîäèìà ïðåäâàðèòåëüíàÿ ðàáîòà ñ ìèäèòðýêîì: íàèãðûâàíèå åãî íå ñ ñèëüíîé äîëè ìåòðîíîìà,à ñî ñëàáîé äîëè íà ñèëüíóþ-è ðàç è äâà,êàê èãðàþò çàïàäíûå ìóçûêàíòû(ïðè÷¸ì ñ÷¸ò "è"óæå çàïèñûâàåòñÿ â ìèäèòðýê, èëè ïî äðóãîìó:àðàíæèðîâùèêè ñäâèãàþò âåñü ìèäèìàòåðèàë â òðýêå íà îïðåäåë¸ííîå êîëè÷åñòâî òèêîâ,à óæ ïîòîì ðàáîòàþò ñ ãðóâîì,êîòîðûé ñêîïèðîâàë òåõíèêó êàêîãî-íèáóäü ìàñòèòîãî ìóçûêàíòà.Ïîñëå ïðèìåíåíèÿ ãðóâà âñå íîòû â ìèäèòðýêå ïîäâèãàþòñÿ âïåð¸ä èëè íàçàä(äëÿ ýòîãî ñäâèã è íåîáõîäèì). Åñëè ýòî áàðàáàíû,òî ãðóâèðîâêà èä¸ò äëÿ êàæäûì èíñòðóìåíòà îòäåëüíî.Çäåñü íóæåí òî÷íûé,âûâåðåííûé,ìîäíûé,ñòèëåâîé íàáîð DNA Groove! Óâàæàåìûå,êîëëåãè,à âîò çäåñü çàãâîçäêà. Ðàáîòàþò DNA Groove òîëüêî ñ Ëîäæèêîì èëè ñ Êóáèêîì äî âåðñèè 5,1(÷òî î÷åíü ñòðàííî).  ïîñëåäíèõ Êóáèêàõ ãðóâû èìåþò ðàñøèðåíèå .prt,à íå dna. Êàê ïîìåñòèòü DNA Groove â Ëîäæèê? Åñëè ÿ íå îøèáàþñü,â ïàïêå Logic íóæíî ñîçäàòü ïàïêó GROOVES, òóäà ïîìåñòèòü ôàéëû áèáëèîòåê. Ïîòîì ìåíþ OPTIONS/Groove Templates/Import DNA Groove templates, òàì ïîÿâèòñÿ îêíî ñ áèáëèîòåêàìè).Ïîñëå âûçîâà ôóíêöèè ãðóâû îòîáðàæàþòñÿ ãðàôè÷åñêè â âèäå ñïèñêà ñ âàðèàöèÿìè ãäå ìîæíî âûáðàòü íåîáõîäèìûé, îí ïîïàäåò â àðàíæèðîâêó â ñòàíäàðòíûé ñïèñîê ñòèëåé êâàíòàéçà äàííîé àðàíæèðîâêè è èñïîëüçîâàòü åãî ìîæíî ñêîëüêî óãîäíî ðàç (íåäåñòðóêòèâíûé êâàíòàéç)..Åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîìíþ, íåîáõîäèì ðåñòàðò Ëîäæèêà, ò.å. îí "íà ëåòó" ñâåæåïîëîæåííûå ãðóâû íå óâèäèò". Äà è åù¸, åñëè íå îøèáàþñü,Perfomer ÷òî äëÿ ÌÀÊà è Cakewalk Project 5 v.2 òîæå ïîíèìàþò dna ôàéëû. Êîíå÷íûé ðåçóëüòàò ïðèìåíåíèÿ DNA Grooves: ñòàíäàðòíûé ìèäèòðýê-÷àñû íà÷èíàåò çâó÷àòü êàê áóäòî åãî íàèãðàë æèâîé ìóçûêàíò-ìàñòåð.Çàòåì èä¸ò ðàáîòà ñ äðóãèìè ìèäèòðýêàìè.Êàê ñ íèìè ðàáîòàòü,÷òîáû îíè áûëè ñ ïåðâûì ñäåëàííûì òðýêîì êàê åäèíîå öåëîå- ýòî ê ñîæàëåíèþ, äëÿ ìíîãèõ íàñ ñåêðåòèê.Õîòåëîñü áû ïîó÷èòüñÿ ó «ñïåöîâ». Äðóãèå ñêàæóò:äà ìû íàèãðàåì ñàìè! Âîò âàì è ãðóâ. ×òî æ òîãäà è ñëóøàéòå ñàìè.  îáùåïðèçíàííûõ ãðóâàõ ñêðûò îïûò ìíîãèõ è ìíîãèõ ìóçûêàíòîâ,ñêðûò êîä óñïåõà òàíöåâàëüíîñòè è ìîäíîñòè.Îñòà¸òñÿ òîëüêî ïðèäóìàòü òàëàíòëèâóþ ìóçûêó. Äà î ÷¸ì ýòî ÿ!?........ Òàê ÷òî óòâåðæäåíèå î òîì,÷òî è ìû âîò íàèãðàåì ñ äðàéâîì è "êà÷åì" è âñ¸ áóäåò ÎÊ,è áóäåò óñïåõ,åñòü áîëüøîå çàáëóæäåíèå Êñòàòè, âîïðîñ ñïåöàì: Ãäå äîñòàòü äëèííûå ãðóâû?×òîá íà âåñü ïîëíîêðîâíûé òðýê,à íå íà 4 è íå íà 8 òàêòîâ. Ãäå äîñòàòü ãðóâû íà 3/4? È ïðàâèëüíî ëè ðàáîòàòü ñ ãðóâàìè íå â 4/4,à â 8/8? È ÂÎÒ,×ÒÎ ÂÀÆÍÎ: Îñòàëüíûå ìåëîäè÷åñêèå òðåêè âû íàèãðûâàåòå(ìíîãîêðàòíî âûâåðÿÿ áëèçêóþ âàì ïî îùóùåíèþ ðèòìèêó)ïî îòãðóâèðîâàííûì áàðàáàíàì èëè ãðóâèðóåòå òîæå ýòîé áèáëèîòåêîé,ñîõðàíÿÿ ñòèëèñòèêó MICROTIMINGà? Êñòàòè,âîò çàëèë íå ÷àñòûå â íàðîäå áèáëèîòåêè: 1.Midi Drum & Percussions Collection(íå ïåðåñëóøàòü,åñòü è îòãðóâèðîâàííûå) 2. grooves dna(ìîäíàÿ ïðî-áèáëèîòåêà)-------- ÎÁÐÀÒÈÒÅ ÅÙ¨ ÐÀÇ ÍÀ ÝÒÎ ÂÍÈÌÀÍÈÅ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3. Áèáëèþ ïî íàñòðîéêå áàðàáàíîâ 4. MICROTIMING_DEVIATIONS_IN_GROOVE 5.What Are DNA Groove Templates 6.Êâàíòàéç â ñåêâåíñîðå File: How-to-make-drums-V.Bychkov-.rar File size: 64.50 Mb Your Download Link: http://fileho.com/download/a64e67560876/How-to-make-drums-V.Bychkov-.rar.html Íå âåðíî óòâåðæäåíèå,÷òî èç ìåõàíè÷åñêîé, êàê ÷àñû,áàðàáàííîé ìèäþøêè íåëüçÿ ñäåëàòü äîñòîéíûé ïðîäóêò.Åù¸ êàê ìîæíî!Êòî ìàñòåðñêè âëàäååò ãðóâîì,òîò äåëàåò ýòî øóòÿ è ñìåÿñü.Êñòàòè ó òàêèõ àðàíæèðîâùèêîâ â çàïàñå î÷åíü áîëüøèå áàíêè íå òîëüêî ãðóâîâ,íî è ìèäèçàãîòîâîê: Groove Monkee Electronic Groove Monkee Funk, Hip Hop and R&B Groove Monkee Metal Groove Monkee Rock File: groove-monkee.rar File size: 4.25 Mb http://fileho.com/download/49b233217065/groove-monkee.rar.html Çäåñü ìèäè ôàéëû + Groove Monkee Rock "All Inclusive" folder: File: Drum-Styles.rar File size: 393.49 Kb http://en.swoopshare.com/file/cdada6be771863174f2290bced546b0d/Drum+Styles?tags=Drum+Styles&lang=en Ñ óâàæåíèåì. Âèêòîð Áû÷êîâ ÑÏá/UK,EastGrinstead(ñòóäèÿ) P.S. À âîò èñòîðèÿ DNA Grooves: DNA Grooves were made possible by a feature introduced in Steinberg Cubase 2.0 called Groove Quantize. This feature allowed the creation of a non-linear quantize grid or template that could be used instead of the standard mathematical quantize algorithms that essentially create perfectly timed music. In 1991, Ray Williams was so struck by the swinging feel of Lisa Stansfield's "All Around The World" that he loaded up his Sound Designer program and tried to figure out how the rhythmic hits were arranged in time, because it certainly wasn't quantized, yet it felt really great. Williams examined every hit in the two bar drum loop used as the rhythmic back bone of the piece and discover that they followed a swinging pattern - i.e. every second 16 note is delayed. Williams recorded the placement in milliseconds of each hit along the two bars and then super-imposed this ratio over a two bar grid of bars and beats. The resulting note placements were manaully entered in the Cubase Groove Quantize editor and the groove of "All Around The World" was now available for use on one of Williams' own compositions - which was the point of the exercise. Later on Williams explained what he had done to his friend Peter Evans who was the first to coin the phrase "DNA Groove." Williams was then introduced to Ernest Cholakis who owned a Synclavier and insisted that he could automate and refine Williams method of extracting grooves using the power of the then state-of-the-art synclav. Williams and Cholakis then formed WC Music Research to develop and sell DNA Grooves. The company went on to develop a line of sampling CD with drum loops accompanied by their DNA Grooves. For the first time the DNA Grooves of such drumming luminaries as Bernard Purdie, Clyde Stubbliefield and Sly Dunbar were available to anyone with a sequencer. Êàêèå áûâàþò DNA Groove Templates è èõ öåíû. http://www.numericalsound.com/en-us/dept_3.html http://www.midi-classics.com/s/sW1337.htm Åù¸ õîðîøèå ñòàòüè http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul01/articles/grove1.asp http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/arti...rformertech.htm http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_expert_advice_4/ |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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À âîò áåç ýòîãî âîîáùå íèêóäà! Íî ÷òî ìû íàáëþäàåì: Òàêèå òåìû ôèëîñîôñêèå â Ôîðóìå ãîðäåëèâî ñâåòÿòñÿ! (ïðî ëàäû çàáûòûå äà ñâåðõìîäíûå èñêóññòâåííûå,ïðî òå÷åíèÿ ìóçûêàëüíûå ýêçîòè÷åñêèå äî òåîðèè ïîëóçàáûòûå,íå æèçíåííûå...) Ñòðàøíî àæ æóòü,à îá ýòîì ìîë÷îê... Ìîæåò òóò ìíîãèå ïðèòâîðÿþòñÿ â óìíîñòè ñâîåé è òåìû ýòè èñêóññòâåííû îò ãîðäîñòè ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé,ãðåõîâíîé(âû÷èòàë è ùàñ îãëóøó èíòåëëåêòîì..íèêòî íå äîãàäàåòñÿ ÷òî ñàì â ýòîì íè áóì-áóì...) Ìîæåò áûòü áóäåì ïðîùå,ïðàêòè÷íåå è áîëüøå âñ¸ î òîì ÷òî äåéñòâèòåëüíî íåîáõîäèìî,÷òî çíàåøü(äàæå åñëè çíàíèå ýòî âîâñå è íå çíàíèå ìóçûêàíòñêîå à òàê íàõîäêà-îçàðåíèå,íî â ÷¸ì òî îíî æå òåáÿ ïðîäâèíóëî...) Äîëîé ìåðòâÿ÷èíó! Âåñíà èä¸ò,âåñíå äîðîãó... 
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Öèòàòà: "Ìîæåò òóò ìíîãèå ïðèòâîðÿþòñÿ â óìíîñòè ñâîåé è òåìû ýòè èñêóññòâåííû îò ãîðäîñòè" Ïðåäëàãàåøü ëþäÿì ñìåëûìè áûòü? Áûëè áû îíè ñìåëûìè, òåîðèþ äàâíî áû îòáðîñèëè, êàê ñòàðûå êîñòûëè, è çäåñü áû ÿâíî íå çàñèæèâàëèñü Òåîðåòèêè ïî ïðèðîäå òðóñû, "êíèæíûå ÷åðâè", ñëîâîì, íè÷åãî ñâîåãî.
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Ùàñ! Ðóäè îí íå óéä¸ò! Îí êàê Ëåíèí ïðîïëà÷åí....
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Âîò óæ äåéñòâèòåëüíî. Âèòåê, òû ñëó÷àéíî ôîðóìîì íå îøèáñÿ? Òåáå áû â "ìóçûêàëüíûé ñîôò". Íó èëè ñðàçó â ïàëàòó íîìåð 6. |
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UP! Åù¸ îäèí êîìïëåêñóþùèé "ñïåöèàëèñò" íà êðþ÷êå!  Ðàäîñòíî! Ñêîðî âñþ "îêîëîìóçûêàëüíóþ øâàëü" âûëîâëþ.
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Àíäðåéêà! DNA Grooves òî äîðîãèå íà õàëÿâó(ìîðùàñü êîíå÷íî ÷òî îò Â.Á.) íåáîñü ñêà÷àë? À âîò ïðèìåíèòü òî è íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ.... Âîïðîñèê î ïîìîùè çàäàòü íàäî àâòîðó à íå óäîáíî. 
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Âèòÿ, ñîâåò òåáå, äîðîãîé! Äåðæè ðÿäûøêîì 2 áðàóçåðà îòêðûòûõ. Òîãäà â ìîçèëëå áóäåøü Âèêòîð Áû÷êîâûì, à â IE - Âÿñåé Áåçãîëîâûì, íó èëè êàê åùå õî÷åøü. Ãäå ñîôò áåðóò íàõàëÿâó - ÿ çíàþ ëó÷øå òåáÿ, ïîâåðü óæ Åñëè õîòöà ãðóâ-ïàðòèé â ìèäè - âîçüìè groove agent è íå ïàðüñÿ - ïîñëåäíÿÿ âåðñèÿ óìååò è â õîñò ïåðåäàâàòü è â ôàéë ïèñàòü. Êñòàòè î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî ïîòîì ïîëó÷åííûé ìèäè îòêðûòü ñèáåëèóñîì. Íàãëÿäíî âèäíû âñå îïåðåæåíèÿ è çàïàçäûâàíèÿ. Òîëüêî âñÿ ýòà òåìà íå èìååò íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ ê ìóçûêàëüíîé òåîðèè. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2007 17:21 |
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Àíäðþøà, êîìïüþòåðíûé ãåíèé òû íàø, à òû â êóðñå, ÷òî ìîæíî îäíîâðåìåííî íåñêîëüêî âêëàäîê â ÌÎçèëëå îòêðûâàòü? òàê æå è ÈÅ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2007 17:46 |
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Àõ, Âèòÿ, åùå íèê ñåáå ïðèîáðåë! Óìíèê-Îòäûõàþùèé, ìîçèëëà øàðèò êóêè âî âñå òðåäû. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2007 18:25 |
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Çàïóòàëñÿ àíäðþøà â áåññèëèè ñâî¸ì.. "..Åñëè õîòöà ãðóâ-ïàðòèé â ìèäè - âîçüìè groove agent..." ÂÎÒ îí ÓÐÎÂÅÍÜ çíàíèé! Ùàñ òóäû DNA ïðèêëåèì,âïåðâûå â ìèðå! |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2007 19:01 |
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Ãîñòü
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×î.Ìîæåò õâàòèò äðóã íà äðóãà.Äàâàéòå âûáåðåì ñåáå òóò ñàìîãî óìíîãî. è çàêðîåì òåìó . ×î óìíè÷àòü. Êîìó-òî groove agent õîðîøî.Êîìó-òî íåò.Ìíå íàïðèìåð èíòåðåñòíî è ìíåíèå Rudi È ìíåíèå Â.Áû÷êîâà è Ñåðãåÿ èòä.Ïðàâäà èíòåðåñòíî.Ýòî æ íå ôîðóì òîëüêî êëàññè÷åñêîé ìóçûê###àäàþò âîïðîñû.Âû ãðàìîòíî îòâå÷àåòå.Íó ïîñïîðèòü ìîæíî.Çà÷åì ðóãàòüñÿ? Âîò âîïðîñ
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 24.03.2007 13:53 |
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Ñòðàøíî ñ âàìè ðàçãîâàðèâàòü,âñå çëûå!Íå íàäî,!!!õîòåëà ïðèïèñàòü ïàðó ñòðîê è èñïóãàëàñü,ïîòåðÿëà ñàìîóâåðåííîñòü.×òî âû ñ ëþäüìè äåëàåòå!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2007 11:52 |
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"Ïîíÿòü ÷òî è êàê îíè òâîðÿò,èõ ôîðìóëó óñïåõà íåëüçÿ-ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî íå ìàòåìàòèêà(ìàòåìàòèêà-ýòî óæå ïîòîì,êîãäà ãðóâ ðàáîòàåò íà äðóãèõ â ñåêâåíñîðå)." Áðåä... Ìèëëèîíû ìóçûêàíòîâ â ìèðå êàæäûé äåíü èãðàþò ðàçíûå è î÷åíü èíòåðåñíûå ãðóâû... |
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Ìîæåøü íå ïåòü - íå ïîé. Ìîæåøü íå èãðàòü - íå èãðàé.
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 11:42 |
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"Áðåä...Ìèëëèîíû ìóçûêàíòîâ â ìèðå êàæäûé äåíü èãðàþò ðàçíûå è î÷åíü èíòåðåñíûå ãðóâû...." À âîò ïîïóëÿðíû òîëüêî ñîòíè! Èõ òî ãðóâû è ôèêñèðóþò ôèðìû âìåñòå ñ èõ êîäîì ïîïóëÿðííîñòè â DNA GROOVES. À îñòàëüíûå ìèëëèîíû "ëîêòè êàñàþò" è ñàìè ñâîè "ðàçíûå è î÷åíü èíòåðåñíûå ãðóâû" ñëóøàþò... Òàê ÷òî "áðåä" òî âû áàòåíüêà íåñ¸òå è âåñüìà áåçàïïåëÿöèîííî... Ìîëîäîé íàâåðíî ïåòóøîê!
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2007 13:26 |
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... íå âûíåñëà äóøà ïîýòà (ñ) - åãî íèêòî íå âûíîñèë... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2007 23:31 |
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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=en&u=http://encycl.opentopia.com/term/Swung_note&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dswing%2Brhythm%26start%3D10%26hl%3Dru%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2007-14,GGLD:ru%26sa%3DN . ññûëêà .ïðàâäà ïåðåâîä÷èêîì íàäî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ. òàì ìíîãî èíòåðåñòíûõ ññûëîê ïî òåìå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 22:35 |
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Àíäðåé ß ïîäñ÷èòàë òóò ññûëîê íà DNA Grooves íà 200 ñ ëèøíèì ôóíòîâ è âûëîæåíî âñ¸ áåñïëàòíî,à âû âñå ñìåðäèòå.... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2007 22:44 |
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ãåñò
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guest-áû÷êîâ,ìîæíî ïîäóìàòü òû èõ êóïèë è âûëîæèë.âîò äóäà÷îê. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2007 15:36 |
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À åñëè âñ¸æå.... Âàøà îäíîáîêîñòü ìûøëåíèÿ íàíîñèò Âàì íåïîïðàâèìûé âðåä.. Ñðàçó âèäíî ÓÌÍÛÉ,íî ê íåñ÷àñòüþ ðîæä¸ííûé â ÑÑÑÐ: íè äëÿ êîãî è íè äëÿ ÷åãî...
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2007 12:32 |
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Ìîñêâà ãèòàðà 
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Ñïàñèáî àâòîðó çà èíòåðåñíûé è â îáùåì-òî íóæíûé ëþäÿì òîïèê. Ìíå óáîãîìó òîêà íåïîíÿòíî ÷åãî åôòî íåêîòîðûå îñîáî îäàðåííûå òàê áåñÿööî. À Áû÷êîâó ðåñïåêò è ïàñèï. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2007 12:52 |
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"Àâòîðèòåòû-òåîðåòèêè" åìó ïðîñòèòü íå ìîãóò ñëîâî "çàìøåëîñòü" è òî,÷òî îí íå â îáùóþ äóäó è "ïðîòèâ èõ òå÷åíèÿ"....
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2007 14:19 |
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ãåñò
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igorv: Ìíå óáîãîìó òîêà íåïîíÿòíî ÷åãî åôòî íåêîòîðûå îñîáî îäàðåííûå òàê áåñÿööî. áû÷êîâ: "Àâòîðèòåòû-òåîðåòèêè" åìó ïðîñòèòü íå ìîãóò ñëîâî "çàìøåëîñòü" è òî,÷òî îí íå â îáùóþ äóäó è "ïðîòèâ èõ òå÷åíèÿ"... Íó âîò Áû÷êîâ, êàê îáû÷íî, ñàì è îòâåòèë, çàùèùàÿ ñåáÿ ëþáèìîãî. Ïðèìåðíî â ýòîì ïðè÷èíà íåïðèÿòèÿ è åñòü - ïàôîñíîñòü è íàäìåííîñòü, æåëàíèå ïðèíèçèòü îñòàëüíûõ ïðè òîì, ÷òî ïèøåòñÿ ïîðîé áðåä, ëèáî ÷óæîå âûäàåòñÿ çà ñâîå. È ñîâñåì óæ âûçûâàåò ïðåçðåíèå, êîãäà Áû÷êîâ íà÷èíàåò ïèñàòü ïðî ñåáÿ, êàêîé îí ãåíèÿëüíûé èç ïîä äðóãèõ íèêîâ. Âîò è ñåé÷àñ - â òðåòüåì ëèöå "åìó ïðîñòèòü íå ìîãóò". Ïèñàë áû íîðìàëüíî, ïóñòü è ñïîðíûå âåùè, íî áåç ãëóïîãî "çàäèðàíèÿ" - íå áûëî áû âîïðîñîâ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2007 16:46 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2007 20:57 |
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ãåñò. Òû òî ÷¸ âåñü èññòðàäàëñÿ? Ãäå Â.Á.òàì è òû ñ äðóãîé îðèåíòàöèåé. Ïåäèê ÷¸ëè?
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2007 21:11 |
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guest, îõ - ó êîãî ÷åãî áîëèò, òîò î òîì è ãîâîðèò. íå ðåâíóé, áóðàòèíêà-äåðåâÿøå÷êà, ìîæåøü íå çàùèùàòü ñâîåãî ëþáèìîãî Áû÷êîâà - îí íå íóæåí íèêîìó. Ïðîäîëæàé ñàì ñåáÿ èìåòü, äóðàøêà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2007 21:23 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2007 21:39 |
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ãåñò
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íó òî÷íî Àáñîëþòíûé Ãàâ-íþê - êàêíóë-ïóêíóë è òåïåðü äîâîëåí, óëûáàåòñÿ. | |
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Òåìà: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2007 00:48 |
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Ñìîòðèòåëü
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Ýòî æ íàíî òàê, ñàì ñ ñîáîé ïðÿìî ïðè âñåõ... è ñòîëüêî ãàâíà ñþäà âûëèë, íó è Âèòÿ. Êîðà ñ àáñîëþòíûì ãàâíþêîì âàùå ñóïåð, ïðÿìî â éàáëî÷êî, ðæàë ïîë÷àñà, à ÷è÷àñ, âñïîìíèë è îïÿòü ðæó. Ïîáîëüøå áû òàêèõ õàêåðîâ, ìîé èì ðåïåêò, ïðîäîëæàéòå â òîìæå äóõå è óñ¸ áóäåò çûèïèñü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2007 19:36 |
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Ïåðå÷èòàë ïåðâûé ïîñò,ñ çàÿâëåííîé òåìîé. Âñ¸ êîððåêòíî,ðàçóìíî. Îñêîðáèòåëüíî âñïûëèëè äðóãèå. Îñîáåííî Àíäðåé è ãåñò. Ñ áîëüíîé ãîëîâû íà çäîðîâóþ ïîõîæå... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2007 19:38 |
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>Ïåðå÷èòàë ïåðâûé ïîñò,ñ çàÿâëåííîé òåìîé. >Âñ¸ êîððåêòíî,ðàçóìíî. >Îñêîðáèòåëüíî âñïûëèëè ïîñëå äðóãèå. >Îñîáåííî Àíäðåé è ãåñò. >Ñ áîëüíîé ãîëîâû íà çäîðîâóþ ïîõîæå... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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>Ùàñ! >íà÷í¸òñÿ ïîõîæå... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
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Òåìà: Re: Ðàçìûøëåíèÿ î Grooves/èç ïðàêòèêè.
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2007 23:43 |
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Êðåàòèâ-Áû÷êîâ-Àà > Ïåðå÷èòàë ïåðâûé ïîñò,ñ çàÿâëåííîé òåìîé. > Âñ¸ êîððåêòíî,ðàçóìíî. Áû÷êîâ, îïÿòü ïåðåîäåâàåøüñÿ, òèïà êòî-òî âïåðâûå çàøåë, ïî÷èòàë è îáúåêòèâíî òàê ðàññóäèë. "êîððåêòíî,ðàçóìíî" - îïÿòü ñàì â çàùèòó ñåáÿ ïèøåøü. ÀÃ, ýêèé òû ñìåøíîé, ïðàâî. |
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