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Òåìà: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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Äîáðîãî âðåìåíè ñóòîê, òîâàðèùè  Ïîñèäåë â ïîèñêå, ïî÷èòàë ðàçíûå òåìû - òîëêîì íè÷åãî êîíêðåòíîãî íåò. Ìîæåò áûòü ïëîõî èñêàë (åñëè òàêàÿ òåìà óæå åñòü, ïîæàëóéñòà, íàïðàâüòå ìåíÿ òóäà). Ñèòóàöèÿ:  íàëè÷èè èìååòñÿ ïðåäóñèëèòåëü Rocktron Voodu Valve (ñîáñòâåííî, ýòî â ïðèíöèïå íå ñòîëü âàæíî, êàêîé ïðåäóñèëèòåëü â íàëè÷èè). Ãèòàðû Caparison Horus (TB6 Distortion)/Ibanez 2620 qmsp (Dimarzio Evolution) Èãðàþ power/progressive metal Íà ïðåäóñèëèòåëå ìîæíî ýêâàëèçèðîâàòü êàê âõîäÿùèé ñèãíàë, òàê è âûõîäÿùèé. Ýêâàëèçèðîâàòü âõîäÿùèé ñèãíàë ìîæíî òàê: Íèçêèå ÷àñòîòû (boost/cut) Íèçêèå ÷àñòîòû (÷àñòîòà, êîòîðóþ ìîæíî boost/cut) Ñðåäíèå ÷àñòîòû (boost/cut) Ñðåäíèå ÷àñòîòû (÷àñòîòà, êîòîðóþ ìîæíî boost/cut) Ñðåäíèå ÷àñòîòû ("øèðèíà" ÷àñòîòû, êîòîðóþ ìîæíî boost/cut) Ýêâàëèçèðîâàòü âûõîäÿùèé ñèãíàë ìîæíî òàê: Íèçû/ñåðèäèíà/âûñîêèå/ïðåçåíñ ðåãóëèðóþòñÿ ïî òð¸ì ïàðàìåòðàì 1) boost/cut 2) ÷àñòîòà äëÿ boost/cut 3) "øèðèíà" ÷àñòîòû äëÿ boost/cut ß ïûòàëñÿ íàðóëèòü õîðîøèé çâóê, íî ìîèõ ïîçíàíèé â ýêâàëèçàöèè íå õâàòàåò. Âîïðîñû (íåêîòîðûå èç íèõ íåðàçóìíûå, íî òåì íå ìåíåå): 1) Êàê ðàçóìíåå âñåãî ðàñïîðÿæàòüñÿ ýòèìè ýêâàëàéçåðàìè? 2) Êàêèå ÷àñòîòû îáû÷íî ðåæóò/áóñòÿò (íàïðèìåð, êîíêðåòíî â çâóêå power/progressive metal). Íàïðèìåð, ïðîâàëû â ðàéîíå 500 ãåðö, ñðåçàíèå ÷àñòîò íà 20-40 ãåðöàõ è 20Ê? 3) Êàêîâà îáû÷íî "øèðèíà" ÷àñòîòû, êîòîðóþ ðåæóò/áóñòÿò? 4) Êàêîé ýêâàëàéçåð ñèëüíåå âëèÿåò íà çâóê - ïðå èëè ïîñò? ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ïîñò. 5) Íàñêîëüêî ïî ðàçíîìó äîëæåí áûòü îòñòðîåí çâóê åñëè ïðåäóñèëèòåëü áóäåò âêëþ÷àòüñÿ â êîìáèê/ãîëîâó è â ëèíèþ (÷åðåç XLR ðàçú¸ì, ñòåðåî) 6) Êàêèå êîíêðåòíî ÷àñòîòû îòâå÷àþò çà òî, ÷òîáû çâóê íå òåðÿëñÿ â ìèêñå, ÷òîáû åãî íå çàãëóøàë áàñ. 7) Ìîæåò ÷òî åù¸ ïîñîâåòóåòå. Ïðèìåð çâóêà â ïðèëîæåíèè. Çàðàíèå ñïàñèáî
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 14:32 |
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Ìîñêâà 
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ß ìîã áû òîëüêî ïîñîâåòîâàòü çàïèñàòü êóñîê ãèòàðû áåç ýêâàëèçàöèè. Çàòåì ïðîãðàìíûì ýêâàëàéçåðîì êîâåðêàòü ñâîé êóñîê. Ýòî äàñò õîòÿ áû îáùèå ïîëîæåíèÿ(ïðàêòè÷íûå) äàííîãî ïîíÿòèÿ. À òåîðèþ ìîæíî íàéòè â èíòåðíåòå - êó÷ó èíôîðìàöèè. |
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Îáó÷åíèå çâóêîçàïèñè - http://soundtraining.ru
Ñòóäèÿ çâóêîçàïèñè - http://zverevstudio.ru Àðàíæèðîâêà - http://arangirovka-master.ru VK - http://vk.com/zverevstudio mail - alex@zverevstudio.ru Ãëàâíîå ìóçûêà, à íå ÷àñòîòà åå äèñêðåòèçàöèè. © |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 15:05 |
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íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ðå÷ü èäåò î âñåâîçìîæíûõ íàñòðîéêàõ ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäà, êîòîðûå âëèÿþò íà çâóê íåñêîëüêî äðóãèì îáðàçîì, íåæåëè ýêâàëèçàöèÿ ïîñëå ìèêðîôîíà. îáùèõ ñîâåòîâ íåò - íî òåì íå ìåíåå - áåðåøü ôîíîãðàììó ëþáèìîé êîìàíäû - ñíèìàåøü èõ ïàðòèþ ñàäèøüñÿ îêîëî óñèëèòåëÿ - âêëþ÷àåøü çàïèñü - ñëóøàåøü, îñòàíàâëèâàåøü, èãðàåøü ñàì òó æå ïàðòèþ è ðóëèøü óñèëèòåëü òàê, ÷òîá áûëî îïòèìàëüíî ïîõîæå íà îðèãèíàë-÷åðåç ïàðó òðîéêó ëåò íà÷íåò áîëåå ìåíåå ïîïàäàòü â çâóê. Äà - è åùå - çâóê ãèòàðíûé çàâèñèò åùå è îò ãèòàðû è îò çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèÿ, è îò òîëùèíû ñòðóí - òàê ÷òî ýêâàëéçåð - ýòî ëèøü ìàëûé êðàåøåê àéñáåðãà ) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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ñóäÿ ïî âîïðîñó ó íåãî ñëóõà òî íåòó.òàê ÷òî ïàçë òâîé âàðèàíò íà ìûëî. òàêóþ äóðó îí êóïèë à êàéôà êàê áóäòî î êðåàòèâêå ãîâîðèò
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 15:33 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620  
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Àëåêñåé, Ìîæåò áûòü åñòü êàêèå íèáóäü õîðîøèå ññûëêè íàïðèìåòå? ÏÀÇË, Íå ñïîðþ, ýêâàëàéçåð ýòî âñåãî ëèøü îäíà èç ñîñòàâëÿþùèõ çâóêà. Êàê áû òî íè áûëî, ýòî î÷åíü âàæíàÿ ÷àñòü. Ïîýòîìó è èñ÷ó ñîâåòà òóò, ïîòîìó êàê îïèðàÿñü íà îïûò çíàþùèõ ëþäåé, ìîæíî äîáèòüñÿ ëó÷øèõ ðåçóëüòàòîâ. |
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 15:35 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Ëåíàð, Ñî ñëóõîì íèêàêèõ ïðîáëåì íåò, óâåðÿþ òåáÿ. Íåò îïûòà ðàáîòû ñ ýêâàëàéçåðàìè. |
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 15:37 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Ýýìì....íå "èñ÷ó", à "èùó" Ãû ) Ïî-÷óõîíñêè íàïèñàë
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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Áàòàëüîí Êîðã 
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Êðþãåð, ìîé õîðîøèé çíàêîìûé, âëàäåëåö ðîêòðîíà, íà ïðå-ÅÊ àöåíòèðóåò ñåðåäèíó (ïðè èãðå ñ äèñòîì) ÷òîáû ïîëó÷èòü îò÷åòëèâûå "çåðíà", ïîñëå ÷åãî â ïîñò-ÅÊ ñëåãêà ñåðåäèíó ïðèæèìàåò, ÷òîáû íå âûïèðàëà ñèëüíî... íó òàì ìíîãî ðàçíûõ íàñòðîåê âîîáùå... òî÷íî ïîäñêàçàòü íå ìîãó, Äðóã íå îñîáî ðàñïðîñòðàíÿëñÿ, ÷òî òàì è êàê êîíêðåòíî, íàäåþñü ýòî áóäåò ïîëåçíûì... | |
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 17:21 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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sh-wolf, Ñïàñèáî çà ñîâåò. Åñëè îí âäðóã ðåøèò ïîäåëèòüñÿ íàñòðîéêàìè ñ îáùåñòâåííîñòüþ, ïèøè ñþäû èëè ìíå íà ìûëî
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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ÁËèí ÷óâàê.Òû êÐÓÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒ à ðàíüøå òû êàê áåç ýêþ òî îáõîäèëñÿ èëè òû ñðàçó êàààààê êóïèë êààààààê çàèãðàë.Ìíå ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî...áåç îáèä
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 22:06 |
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Óâàæàåìûé, Êðþãåð! Íàøè ñîâåòû-ýòî õîðîøî, íî î÷åíü ïîëåçíî ñàìîìó â ýòî äåëî âíèêíóòü.Ïîêà âû ñàìè "ñëûøàòü" íå íàó÷èòåñü, òîëêó ìàëî áóäåò.  Ëåò ÷åðåç ïÿòü ýòî ÷óâñòâî ìîæåò ïîÿâèòüñÿ. Ïðåäñòàâüòå ñåáå âîïðîñ íà ôîðóìå àâòîëþáèòåëåé. Êàê ìíå âûéòè èç çàíîñà? êîãäà è íà êàêîé óãîë ïîâåðíóòü ðóëü?:) |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 19.03.2007 23:56 |
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Êðþãåð ?!?!? ×òî, ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ, ñëîæíî ñëîâî "ýêâàëèçàöèÿ" ïðîïèñàòü â ïîèñêîâèêå? |
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Îáó÷åíèå çâóêîçàïèñè - http://soundtraining.ru
Ñòóäèÿ çâóêîçàïèñè - http://zverevstudio.ru Àðàíæèðîâêà - http://arangirovka-master.ru VK - http://vk.com/zverevstudio mail - alex@zverevstudio.ru Ãëàâíîå ìóçûêà, à íå ÷àñòîòà åå äèñêðåòèçàöèè. © |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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Íó ÌÎÐÅ ÂÎÍ èíôîðìàöèè!!! | |
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Îáó÷åíèå çâóêîçàïèñè - http://soundtraining.ru
Ñòóäèÿ çâóêîçàïèñè - http://zverevstudio.ru Àðàíæèðîâêà - http://arangirovka-master.ru VK - http://vk.com/zverevstudio mail - alex@zverevstudio.ru Ãëàâíîå ìóçûêà, à íå ÷àñòîòà åå äèñêðåòèçàöèè. © |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 20.03.2007 00:55 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Ëåíàð, Ðàíüøå õâàòàëî êðóòèëîê íà êîìáèêå. Profun, ÝõÚ. Óãîâîðèëè =) Ëàäíî, íå ãíåâàéòåñü, òîâàðèùè! Ïîéäó îïÿòü ïîèñêè áîðîçäèòü
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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Êðóòèëêè ýòî è åñòü ýêþ áëèí
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 20.03.2007 21:45 |
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Êðàñíîäàð Gibson LP Classic+Peavey6505+ 
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Ðóëè âîñíîâíîì çà ñ÷åò ïîëîæåíèÿ ìèêðîôîíà ïåðåä êàáèíåòîì. íàñ÷åò ëèíèè-ìîæåøü íå ïàðèòüñÿ,íå áûâàåò ãèòàðíîãî çâóêà â ëèíèþ,âìåñòî çâóêà ïåæíÿ ìàëîâðàçóìèòåëüíàÿ áóäåò,õîòü ÷òî êðóòè...À âîîáùå ìîé ñóáúåêòèâíûé ñîâåò- ïðîäàòü ïðåä è ýêâàëàéçåðû,êóïèòü îäèí ðàç íîðìàëüíûé ëàìïîâûé êîìáåã ,à ëó÷øå ñòåê è þçàòü åãî ðîäíîé ïåðåãðóç. | |
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à ãîëîâû áåç ñòåêà èçäàþò çâóê? à òî ïðî âîêñ íàïèñíî, ÷òî ýòî óíèâåðñàëüíûé 15âò óñèëèòåëü. òàê ãäå òàì äèíàìèêè? ïî áîêàì ìàëåíüêèå ÷òî ëÿ?
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 20.03.2007 22:30 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Ëåíàð, Éà çíàþ =))) Íî òàì èõ òîëüêî 3 ó ìåíÿ. Âñ¸ ëåãêî. È êàæäàÿ èç íèõ óæå íà îïðåäåë¸ííî íàñòðîåíà íà çîâîäå. À òóò âñ¸ òðóäíî íàõ. ÄèìàËåâ, Ñîãëàñåí ïîëíîñòüþ. Òîëüêî íà ñòýê èëè êîìáèê (êîòîðûé ÿ õî÷ó) ïîêà íå õâàòàåò. Äà è ñëóøàòü ó íàñ òóò â Ýñòîíèè âîîîîáùå íå÷åãî (èç õîðîøèõ àïïàðàòîâ). Íóæíî åõàòü êóäà òî... â Ôèíëÿíäèþ èëü â Ïèòåð. |
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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Áàòàëüîí Êîðã
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ÄèìàËåâ - ãëàçà ïðîòðè!!! Óêàçàííûå åêâàëàéçåðû âñòðîåíû â ãèòàðíûé ïðîöåññîð, ìåæäó ïðî÷èì Ðîêòðîí âåñüìà íåäóðñòâåííî ïåðåãðóçû äåëàåò (áëàãî ëàìïà òàì æèâåò), è åñëè ìíå íå èçìåíÿåò ìîé ñêëåðîç, òî â Ðîêòðîíàõ åñòü ñïèêîñèìóëÿòîð, êîòîðûé êîíå÷íî íå ïàíàöåÿ, íî êîå-÷òî ìîæåò
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 21.03.2007 09:31 |
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Ñåâàñòîïîëü
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Âóäó âàëüâå - õîðîøÿ æåëåÿêà, åñëè íóæåí òåìáð ïîñîâðåìåííåé åãî è â êîìáî ìîæíî âîòêíóòü è â äîìåñ ê êîìáó èñïîëüçîâàòü. Ìû ïàðó ëåò íàçàä ÷åðåç íåãî â êîìáî äàæå áàñ ïèñàëè, íóæåí áûë ïðîñòî ìîùíûé, íà ãðàíè ïîäãðóçà íî íå ïåðäÿùèé áàñ - ïîëó÷èëîñü ïðèêîëüíî |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWRxTCIH2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 21.03.2007 13:36 |
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×åáóðàøêè ó êîòîðîãî íå áûëî äðóçåé
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Êðþãåð - íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíî êàêîé çâóê òû õî÷åøü íàðóëèòü, íó äà ëàäíî. Åñòü ïàðà ÷àñòîò êîòîðûå ëó÷øå ñðåçàòü - 150-170 Ãö è â ðàéîíå 800-850 Ãö. Ýòî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ðàçâåñòè ãèòàðó ñ áàñîì. Ìíå íðàâèòñÿ â ðèòìîâîé ãèòàðå îñíîâà, ïîýòîìó ÿ ïîäíèìàþ 80-100 Ãö. Íó è äèàïàçîí â ðàéîíå 10 êÃö ó ìåíÿ òàêæå ðàáîòàåò â ïëþñ. Åñëè èíòåðåñóåò Q, òî ýòî, êàê ïðàâèëî, â ðàéîíå 1.4-2, êðîìå äèàïàçîíà 150-170, òàì 4-6. Óäà÷è. | |
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"I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation." Martin Luther King, Jr
https://soundcloud.com/andrew-klyushnikov http://vk.com/akmix |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 21.03.2007 16:19 |
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Áàòàëüîí Êîðã
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Êóÿñå!!! Êñòà äåëüíî, òîêà íå çíàþ, åñòü ëè â Ðîêòðîíå q | |
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 21.03.2007 21:45 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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ïàïî÷êà, Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå çà ñîâåò! À Q ýòî ÷òî?
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 21.03.2007 22:13 |
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Êèðêà äà ëîïàòà
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Êðþãåð, Q-äîáðîòíîñòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2007 00:52 |
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Ñåâàñòîïîëü
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ïàïî÷êà,à òû óìååøü ñ íèçîì ãèòàð ðàáîòàòü, ÿ åãî áîþñü - ïðåäïî÷èòàþ íîæíèöû 100-130 - ïî çàäà÷å, íàäî ïîäóìàòü - ìîæåò â ýòîì ÿ íå ðàâ (( | |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWRxTCIH2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2007 01:33 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Àøîò, Õì õì... ñîìíåâàþñü ÷òî ÿ âîîáùå êîãäà òî ñëûøàë îá ýòîé âåùè. ÏÀÇË, Ñêàæè ïîæàëóéñòà, ÷òî çíà÷èò "íîæíèöû 100-130"? Ò.å. òû ýòè ÷àñòîòû ïðèæèìàåøü? |
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2007 07:53 |
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Áàòàëüîí Êîðã
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Q - åñòü Quality - äîáðîòíîñòü - ðåãóëÿòîð íà ïàðàìåòðè÷åñêîì ýêâàëàéçåðå, îïðåäåëÿþùèé "ãëóáèíó" âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà À×Õ â çàäàííîé îáëàñòè... ïðèìåðíî òàê... õîòÿ ìîæåò íå ñîâñåì òî÷íî ñêàçàë
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2007 07:54 |
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Áàòàëüîí Êîðã
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 îáùåì îò Q çàâèñèò êðóòèçíà êðèâîé À×Õ â îáðàáàòûâàåìîì äèàïàçîíå ÷àñòîò
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2007 09:25 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Ïîíÿòíà =) Ó ìåíÿ ýòîãî ïîëþáîìó íýòó. | |
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2007 11:02 |
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Ëûòêàðèíî ðóêè-óõè
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2 Êðþãåð:2 Ïîíÿòíà =) Ó ìåíÿ ýòîãî ïîëþáîìó íýòó." Íàïðîòèâ, "ïîëþáîìó" åñòü. Âû ýòî îïèñàëè ñàìè, êàê:"øèðèíà" ÷àñòîòû, êîòîðóþ ìîæíî boost/cut". Ýòî è åñòü äîáðîòíîñòü. Ïîïðîáóéòå ðàçîáðàòüñÿ âîò â ýòîì òåêñòå: http://long.ru/articles/fproc/index.html |
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.... è åäèíñòâåííûå íàóøíèêè, êîòîðûì ÿ ïîëíîñòüþ äîâåðÿþ ýòî beyerdynamic DTX 501p
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 22.03.2007 11:26 |
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×åáóðàøêè ó êîòîðîãî íå áûëî äðóçåé
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ÏÀÇË - ýòî ïîòîìó, ÷òî ó òåáÿ íñ-êè. ãëàâíîå - ðåçóëüòàò. ó òåáÿ - õîðîøèé. çíà÷èò - ðàâ
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"I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation." Martin Luther King, Jr
https://soundcloud.com/andrew-klyushnikov http://vk.com/akmix |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2007 00:45 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Äìèòðèé-2, Ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå çà ðàçúÿñíåíèå! Ñòàòüÿ è ñàéò ïîëåçíûå. |
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2007 13:51 |
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Ïèòåð ãèòàðà, âîêàë
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ÄèìàËåâ, ñ îáû÷íûìè ãèòàðàìè (êðóòûìè, íåêðóòûìè) â ëèíèþ ïóòíî íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ - ýòî èçâåñòíî,è ñ îáû÷íîé àêòèâ ýëåêòðîíèêîé - òîæå, à âîò åñëè àêòèâêà íà áàëàíñíûõ ñõåìàõ (â ñàìîé ãèòàðå)- âåñìà èíòåðåñíî è â ëèíèþ, ìîãó äàòü ññûëêó HI-FI & Music ¹3,ìàðò,96ã, ñ22, òàì ïðàâäà îòçûâ î çâóêå ÷åðåç áàëàíñíûå âõîäû-âûõîäû â HI-end óñèëèòåëÿõ, íî â ãèòàðàõ ýôôåêò íè÷óòü íå ìåíüøå, åñëè íå áîëüøå. | |
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Äåëàþ àêòèâíóþ ãèòàðíóþ ýëåêòðîíèêó, ñèììåòðè÷íûå ñõåìû- ñóïåð.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 23.03.2007 16:53 |
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Áàòàëüîí Êîðã
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Âàëåðà, òû òîêà îäíîãî íå ó÷åë, ÷òî áîëüøèíñòâî ïðèìî÷åê íå íà áàëàíñòíûõ ñõåìàõ 
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 24.03.2007 12:42 |
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Producer ESP 
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Ìîÿ ýêâàëèçàöèÿ ãèòàðû Îáðåç íèæíèõ íà 80 ãåðö (íå âûøå), 90-110 ãö ïðèïîäíÿòû +3 ÄÁ ïîíèæå ãóëà íà 200-300 ãö øèðîêèé íåãðóáîêèé âûðåç ñåðåäèíû 500-1000 ãö -1.5 äÁ ïîäüåì 3-4 äÁ 3500-4500 Ãö, çàòåì ïîñòåïåííûé çàâàë âûïóêëîé âíèç êðèâîé ê 8 êÃö è òàì îáðåç íàõðåí ) |
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ß ãàðàíòèðóþ ýòî.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 24.03.2007 12:54 |
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Ïèòåð ãèòàðà, âîêàë
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Sh-wolf, òû æ âðîäå êðóòîé ÷óâàê â ðàçíûõ òîïàõ òàê ïî ìîðäàì ìíîãèì äàâàë, ýòî âõîä ñõåìû áàëàíñíûé ñî ñòîðîíû äàò÷èêîâ, à âûõîä ñõåìû ðàçóìååòñÿ í####àíñíûé è áåç ïðîáëåì ïîäñîåäèíÿåòñÿ ê òåìáðîáëîêó, ò.å. ãèòàðà ïî êîììóòàöèè ê êîìáèêàì èëè ê ïðèìî÷êàì îñòàåòñÿ áåç èçìåíåíèé. | |
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Äåëàþ àêòèâíóþ ãèòàðíóþ ýëåêòðîíèêó, ñèììåòðè÷íûå ñõåìû- ñóïåð.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 24.03.2007 12:54 |
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Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620
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Ñïàñèáî! Ïîñìîòðèì, êàê ýòî ïðèìåðíî áóäåò çâó÷àòü Ñòðóíû 16-88? 0_î |
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Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 25.03.2007 14:24 |
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Producer ESP
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ß èãðàþ æîñòêî è ìíå íóæíà ñîîòâåòñòâóþùàÿ îòäà÷à, òåì áîëåå ñòðîé äðîï ëÿ - âïîëíå ÎÊ | |
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ß ãàðàíòèðóþ ýòî.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 25.03.2007 16:07 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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Ãîñïîäà, ñëóøàåì êóðñ "Golden Ears" íà õîðîøèõ ìîíèòîðàõ â íîðìàëüíîì ïîìåùåíèè.×åðåç òðè ìåñÿöà çàíÿòèé âàøè "÷àñòîòû ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ" ãîòîâû! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2007 08:39 |
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Áàòàëüîí Êîðã
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Âàëåðà, òåïåðü äîïåðëî...
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
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Òàãàíðîã Àýðîóïðóãîñòü 
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ÄèìàËåâ >Ðóëè âîñíîâíîì çà ñ÷åò ïîëîæåíèÿ ìèêðîôîíà ïåðåä êàáèíåòîì. íàñ÷åò ëèíèè-ìîæåøü íå ïàðèòüñÿ,íå áûâàåò ãèòàðíîãî çâóêà â ëèíèþ,âìåñòî çâóêà ïåæíÿ ìàëîâðàçóìèòåëüíàÿ áóäåò,õîòü ÷òî êðóòè...À âîîáùå ìîé ñóáúåêòèâíûé ñîâåò- ïðîäàòü ïðåä è ýêâàëàéçåðû,êóïèòü îäèí ðàç íîðìàëüíûé ëàìïîâûé êîìáåã ,à ëó÷øå ñòåê è þçàòü åãî ðîäíîé ïåðåãðóç. Ïëþñòûøøà!
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ÏÀÎ "ÒÀÍÒÊ èì. Ã. Ì. Áåðèåâà", ÎÊÁ
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ ïî ÷àñòîòàì ãèòàðíîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ.
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2007 03:29 |
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Ïèòåð ãèòàðà, âîêàë
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Âîîáùå òî îñîáåííîñòè áàëàíñíîé ñõåìû êîãäà îíà óñòàíîâëåíà â íåïîñðåäñòâåííîé áëèçîñòè ê ïåðâîèñòî÷íèêó ñèãíàëà (ò.å. ê äàò÷èêàì) òå æå ñàìûå ÷òî è ðóëåæêà ìèêðîôîíîâ ïåðåä êîìáèêîì ïðè ïîïûòêå íàéòè îïòèìàëüíóþ òî÷êó äëÿ ñúåìà ìàêñèìàëüíî ïîëåçíîãî ñèãíàëà. Ò.ê. ýòè ñõåìû ïîëåçíûé ñèãíàë îò äàò÷èêîâ ðàñêðó÷èâàþò êàê ðàç ìàêñèìàëüíî ( ìîæíî ñêàçàòü íå íà 100 à íà 200 %), è äàæå ìîãóò ïîñðåäñòâåííîå çâó÷àíèå ãèòàðû êàðäèíàëüíî èçìåíèòü â ëó÷øóþ ñòîðîíó. Ïðîñòî òàêîå ãèòàðíîå ïðèìåíåíèå ýòèõ ñõåì òîëêîì åùå íå èçó÷åíî. Êîìó èíòåðåñíî, ìîãó äàòü ïðèìåð çàïèñè â ëèíèþ îäíîé èç òàêèõ ãèòàð ñî âñòðîåííîé áàëàíñ. ñõåìîé. Ãèòàðà, ïðàâäà, íåäîðîãàÿ, è ñòðóíû ñòàðûå, íî òåì íå ìåíåå. | |
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Äåëàþ àêòèâíóþ ãèòàðíóþ ýëåêòðîíèêó, ñèììåòðè÷íûå ñõåìû- ñóïåð.
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