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Áåðåì äæàç è äåëàåì ñòðàøíîå êàê íà êàðòèíêå. È áîæå ìîé , à ãäå æå Òðó-ïèêè? 😅 Ïåðåãðóç 15 äá à òðó-ïèêè â ðàéîíå 0.5 ? 😅 ýòî âîîáùå çàêîííî? 😅 https://disk.yandex.ru/d/CU9gJMoXkfOl5Q íî ýòî åùå íå ñàìîå ñìåøíîý. íîðìàëèçóåì ïîä -0.3 äá è äåëàåì ìï3. Ñìîòðèì òðó-ïèêè. ~1 dbTP !!! è ïîéäè åãî åùå óñëûøü ãäå îí. Òîåñòü, îá ýòîì òî÷íî íàäî ïàðèòüñÿ? è ýòî íèêàêèõ ñïåöèàëüíûõ ëèìèòåðîâ íå ïðèìåíÿëîñü, ïðîñòî ïåðåãðóçêà íà ìàñòåðå. |
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òåïåðü , ïåðåãðóç ~30 db íî íà ìàñòåðå ëèìèòåð G2 ñ îâåðñåìïëèíãîì 4. òðóïèêè < 1 dBTP íàì òî÷íî íàäî ÷òî-òî çíàòü î òðó-ïèêàõ? 😅 |
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Òåìà: Re: Íóæåí ëè äîìà ñòóäèéíûé ìàãíèòîôîí?
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>https://youtube.com/shorts/19TKacciKoM?feature=sh a re ãäå òî áûë åùå ñëó÷àé êàê îí íà ìûëî ëîâèë 😅 òàì òîæ ïàðíè ñ 1176ûìè ïðèôèãåëè😅 |
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Òåìà: Re: Íóæåí ëè äîìà ñòóäèéíûé ìàãíèòîôîí?
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à âîò îíî 😅 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6YluNbu3VpQ |
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Òåìà: Re: Íóæåí ëè äîìà ñòóäèéíûé ìàãíèòîôîí?
Âðåìÿ: 03.04.2023 13:59 |
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âîò òóò ïàðíèøêà èç Íàòî çàìîðî÷èëñÿ èçó÷èë òåìó ñ òðóïèêàìè íà Ñïîòèôàé. https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/comments/kl r4ax/spotify_states_14_lufs_and_10_db_true_peak_fo r/ Áîëüøèíñòâî èñòèííûõ ïèêîâ äàæå íå ïðèáëèçèëèñü ê -1,0 äÁ. ß âèäåë ìàññó Èñòèííûõ Ïèêîâ, êîòîðûå óøëè â ìèíóñ îò +0,1 äî +0,9. Ìíîãèå áûëè îò 0,0 äî -0,1 (íå -1,0). Íåêîòîðûå äîñòèãàþò îò -0,2 äî -0,3. Áîëüøèíñòâî òðåêîâ â ñðåäíåì èìåëè îò -7 äî -11 Integrated LUFS. Ìíîãèå òðåêè íàõîäèëèñü â äèàïàçîíå èíòåãðèðîâàííûõ LUFS îò -8 äî -9. Spotify States -14 LUFS and -1.0 dB True Peak for Mastering - Is anyone really doing this though? Discussion I been researching LUFS and testing things for a few weeks now. I bet many of you have been in the same boat at one time or another. I know this topic has been beat to death. I know the -14 LUFS is not a target to aim for and that it is just what the Spotify and other streaming sites are doing to normalize your track (turn volume down so all perceived loudness is same-ish). I have read a ton of stuff out there and watched videos about it. Looked at Loudness Penalty, etc.Spotify even states somewhere about mastering for Spotify you should be around -14 LUFS and not True Peak higher than -1.0. If song louder or more aggressive, then it should be -2.0.So there is a lot info out there that has you going a couple different ways and definitely can be confusing. Okay, so I bet maybe some of you threw a song on Spotify with those recommendations and then listened to it with other similar tracks and realized in sounds quiet compared to your track. Then you question your creating, mixing and/or mastering skills, etc. and wondering why your track does not sound like those similar artists. Well I did some testing, feel free to do it yourself if you want. I am not trying to sway you this way or that way or make up your mind or anything like that. I am just going to explain the testing I did and give you the results. On Spotify. I turned off normalization and turned on High Quality streaming.I did this to kind of see what the tracks big label and little artists are actually sending into Spotify before Spotify does its normalizing to them. (I know this still not the highest quality WAV file, but it is closest thing Spotify can give you.)Then I used loopback and iShowu to record audio from Spotify into my DAW. I used both to make sure nothing was different. It wasn't.I also have high quality WAV Files and some original CDs to compare the LUFS and True Peaks of those to the Spotify non-normalized tracks. Just to verify and to make sure nothing is getting turned up or turned down on the way into my DAW. Everything was cool here and matched up. I will talk more about this later.So looking at what Spotify states, we will use this to reference against.-14 Integrated LUFS (the whole track) with no True Peaks over -1.0 or -2.0 So I went into this thinking there is going to be a majority of tracks around the -14 LUFS and the True Peaks not going over the -1.0 dB. I was very wrong. I tested about 100 songs. From a bunch of different genres. Big artists to little artists. New songs to old songs. Here are the results:There was only 2 tracks that have a True Peak at -1.0 dB.That you can actually see it not going past the -1.0 dB. Like their limiter was set to the -1.0 dB. Onto the -14 Integrated LUFS.There was only 4 tracks with an average of about -14 Integrated LUFS. Majority of the True Peaks where not even close to the -1.0 dB. I seen a ton of True Peaks that went into the red +0.1 up to +0.9. A lot were around 0.0 to -0.1 (Not -1.0). Some hit around -0.2 to -0.3. Majority of the tracks averaged -7 to -11 Integrated LUFS. A lot of the tracks were in the -8 to -9 Integrated LUFS range. If you do not believe me, do the same tests yourself with your favorite artists and other artists to see for yourself. You might find some that follow Spotify recommendations, but it seems like that is far and in-between. I said above I would talk more about the WAV files and CDs I used to reference Spotify's un-normalized tracks too. Well every single track from WAV or CD that I matched their Integrated LUFS and True Peaks with Spotify's un-normalized high quality tracks were identical. Which surprised me and was very cool to know.What I think this means... I think majority of artists have one master for CD with settings around -6 to -11 LUFs with True Peak around -0.3 to -0.1 or even a little hotter (hitting the reds) and they just send that directly into Spotify and other Streaming services. No separate master for streaming or anything like that. Now I could be wrong, but that is what it looks like. Love to know what you guys think? Anyone else try similar tests? |
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>íîðìàëèçóåì ïîä -0.3 äá è äåëàåì ìï3. Ñìîòðèì òðó-ïèêè. ~1 dbTP !!! è ïîéäè åãî åùå óñëûøü ãäå îí Ýòî ïîíÿòèå îòíîñèòñÿ ê äèíàìè÷íîé ìóçûêå è èíñòðóìåíòàì ñ îñòðîé, áûñòðîé àòàêîé. Åñëè óáèòü âñþ äèíàìèêó , òî íå áóäåò íå òîëüêî òðó-ïèêîâ, íî è ïðîñòî ïèêîâ. Êàê â áåëîì øóìå:-) Åñëè âàì íðàâèòñÿ ñëóøàòü êèðïè÷è, òî ìîæíî íå îçàäà÷èâàòüñÿ ïðîáëåìîé òðóïèêîâ è ñìåëî äâèãàòüñÿ ê ïèêó ñëóõîâîé äåãðàäàöèè... |
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Òåìà: Re: Íóæåí ëè äîìà ñòóäèéíûé ìàãíèòîôîí?
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yiyiyaccc, à ñ êàêèõ ýòî ïîð òàêóþ äèíàìè÷íóþ ìóçûêó æìóò â ìï3?😅. ß áûë óâåðåí ÷òî åå ñðàçó íà âèíèë ïèøóò. Äà È êñòàòè ó ìåíÿ çà ïðèìåð âçÿò Äæàçîâûé òðåê 😉 |
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Ëîâëþ íà êèðïè÷è è òðóïèêè Îäíèì äâèæåíèåì ðóêè https://cloud.mail.ru/public/UsS5/av1JCPwED |
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Òåìà: Re: Íóæåí ëè äîìà ñòóäèéíûé ìàãíèòîôîí?
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>à ñ êàêèõ ýòî ïîð òàêóþ äèíàìè÷íóþ ìóçûêó æìóò â ìï3? êòî æì¸ò, êðîìå âàñ? Âû ïèêè îò òðóïèêîâ íå îòëè÷àåòå, è íå ïîíèìàåòå, ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó ïðèðîäó èõ âîçíèêíîâåíèÿ. ñóäÿ ïî âàøèì äèëåòàíòñêèì âáðîñàì, ìîæåò âàì äðóãèì äåëîì çàíÿòüñÿ? >ó ìåíÿ çà ïðèìåð âçÿò Äæàçîâûé òðåê Ïðèìåð ÷åãî? êàê âû ìîæåòå óõàíäîøèòü äàæå ÷óæóþ çàïèñü äæàçà? Ìàñòåðñòâî çàñ÷èòàíî:-) |
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>Âû ïèêè îò òðóïèêîâ íå îòëè÷àåòå, è íå ïîíèìàåòå, ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó ïðèðîäó èõ âîçíèêíîâåíèÿ. Íà ýòó òåìó ïîëíî ìàòåðèàëîâ â ñåòè . íå î÷åíü ñëîæíî. |
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>ïåðåãðóç ~30 db íî íà ìàñòåðå ëèìèòåð G2 ñ îâåðñåìïëèíãîì 4. >òðóïèêè < 1 dBTP >íàì òî÷íî íàäî ÷òî-òî çíàòü î òðó-ïèêàõ? Íå íàäî, íå íàäî.... Áåñïîëåçíî !:-) |
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yiyiyaccc, ïîäåëèòåñü îïûòîì. Ìîæåòå ñêèíóòü òðåê ãäå áóäåò îò÷¸òëèâî ñëûøíî êàê íåïðàâèëüíûå òðóïèêè äîáàâëÿþò èñêàæåíèé è òðåñêà? | |
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>ãäå áóäåò îò÷¸òëèâî ñëûøíî êàê íåïðàâèëüíûå òðóïèêè äîáàâëÿþò èñêàæåíèé è òðåñêà? Çà÷åì âàì, âû æ è ïðè +30 íå ñëûøèòå. À... , âû æ ïûòàëèñü óëó÷øèòü Ìàäèí òðåê êàêîé-òî.. Âîò òàì â ïîëíîé êðàñå âñ¸ è ïðèñóòñòâóåò. Ñêà÷àéòå ñâîé îïóñ è òðåíèðóéòåñü... |
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>è ïðè +30 íå ñëûøèòå. òàê èõ è íå ñëûøíî è â +200, ïîæàòûõ â 0 ÒÏ - ýòî ïðî èíäèêàöèþ, è âðÿä ëè ïðî ÷òî òî äðóãîå >Ëîâëþ íà êèðïè÷è è òðóïèêè >Îäíèì äâèæåíèåì ðóê >https://cloud.mail.ru/public/UsS5/av1JCPwED ßâíûé ïðèìåð íà äþæèíå òðåêîâ Èëè çäåñü íåäîñòàòî÷íî ïîíèìàíèÿ ïðèðîäû ñèëû çåìëè? 
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>Ëîâëþ íà êèðïè÷è è òðóïèêè >Îäíèì äâèæåíèåì ðóêè >https://cloud.mail.ru/public/UsS5/av1JCPwED Êîãî ëîâèòå, è çà÷åì? >Èëè çäåñü íåäîñòàòî÷íî ïîíèìàíèÿ ïðèðîäû ñèëû çåìëè? Ïðèðîäà òðóïíûõ êèðïè÷åé íå ðàñêðûòà. Îñåíüþ íà ïåðåñäà÷ó:-) Ðàçáåðèòåñü óæå ñ LUFSRMSPEAK ! |
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>Ïðèðîäà òðóïíûõ êèðïè÷åé íå ðàñêðûòà Èçìåðåíèÿ ãîâîðÿò ïîëíîñòüþ îá îáðàòíîì Ìîæåòå ìíå íàçâàòü ëþáîå ñâî¸ èçìåðèëîâî äëÿ òåñòà, ÿ ñäåëàþ òàê æå îäíî äâèæåíèå ðóêîé è íèêàêèõ òðóïèêîâ íå áóäåò. |
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Ìaäÿ, òû ïîíèìàåøü èëè íå ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî òðóïèêè ýòî àòàêè ñèãíàëà, êîòîðûå ïðèõîäÿò â ÖÀÏ? åñëè òû èõ îòðåçàë - òû îòðåçàë àòàêè.âàòà íàøå âñå. åñëè òû èõ ïðîïóñòèë òû ñîçäàë íåâûíîñèìûé ïåðäåæ. ìîæåøü ñêîëüêî óãîäíî ðàçãîíÿòü êèðïè÷è è øåâåëåíêè, íà âûõîäå áóäåò ëèáî ãðîìêàÿ âàòà áåç îñòðèå àòàê, ëèáî ïðåäåæ. òàêèå âîò "ãðàôèêè"
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ß ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî òðóïèêè ýòî èíäèêàöèÿ Âû ìîæåòå òðàêòîâàòü èíäèêàöèþ êàê óãîäíî è âåðèòü âî ÷òî óãîäíî Âîçüìè ñèíóñû áåç àòàê, òàì òîæå áóäóò òðó ïèêè |
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>ß ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî òðóïèêè ýòî èíäèêàöèÿ >Âû ìîæåòå òðàêòîâàòü èíäèêàöèþ êàê óãîäíî è âåðèòü âî ÷òî óãîäíî >Âîçüìè ñèíóñû áåç àòàê, òàì òîæå áóäóò òðó ïèêè êîíå÷íî áóäóò, ïîòîìó ÷òî àíàëîãîâûé ñèãíàë >ß ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî òðóïèêè ýòî èíäèêàöèÿ >Âû ìîæåòå òðàêòîâàòü èíäèêàöèþ êàê óãîäíî è âåðèòü âî ÷òî óãîäíî >Âîçüìè ñèíóñû áåç àòàê, òàì òîæå áóäóò òðó ïèêè åñëè òðó ïèêîâ íåò, òîãäà ÷òî ïðèâîäèò ê "ïåðåãðóçó" ÖÀÏà è ñëûøèòñÿ êàê ïåðäåæ ïðè ïðîñëóøèâàíèè êèðïè÷åé, îáðåçàííûõ ïî óðîâíþ -3-4 äá? |
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Èñêëþ÷èòåëüíà ðîêàâûå ÷àñòîòû
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Ãàðìîíè÷åñêèå è ÷àñòîòíûå êîíôëèêòû, êîòîðûå âûçûâàþò èñêàæåíèÿ Ïîíèçü ëþáîé êèðïè÷ øîá íóëÿ íå êàñàëñÿ, èíäèêàöèÿ è íå áóäåò ñðàáàòûâàòü. À ñëûøàòüñÿ ìîæåò ÷òî óãîäíî |
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>Ãàðìîíè÷åñêèå è ÷àñòîòíûå êîíôëèêòû, êîòîðûå âûçûâàþò èñêàæåíèÿ >Ïîíèçü ëþáîé êèðïè÷ øîá íóëÿ íå êàñàëñÿ, èíäèêàöèÿ è íå áóäåò ñðàáàòûâàòü. >À ñëûøàòüñÿ ìîæåò ÷òî óãîäíî ïîíÿòèå "êëèïóåò" òåáå èçâåñòíî? ýòî ýòî îçíà÷àåò? ïî÷åìó êëèïóåò êèðïè÷ ñ óðîâíåì -3 äá? -3 ýòî ìåíüøå 0 èëè áîëüøå? êàê ïîíèçèòü êëèïóþùèé êèðïè÷ ñ óðîâíåì -3 äá íèæå íîëÿ?
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Ìaäÿ, óòðî âå÷åðà ìóäðåíåå, ó ìåíÿ óæå âðåìÿ îáåäà à òåáå ñïàñòü äàâíî ïîðà, îòäîõíè õîðîøåíüêî, êàê ïðîñíåøüñÿ ïîãîâîðèì î òðóïèêàõ )) |
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Î....Õ....... ! ÏèÊ - ýòî óðîâåíü âûøå êîòîðîãî íà÷èíàþòñÿ ÈñÊàæåíèÿ. Òðóïèêè íèêòî íå ñëûøèò, ýòî ìèêðîñåêóíäû, íî îíè ñâèäåòåëüñòâóþò î íàëè÷èè èñêàæåíèé, êîòîðûå, åñëè íå ñëûøíî, çíà÷èò íåò ïðàâèëüíîãî ìîíèòîðèíãà ! Áîëüøå âñåõ âåùàþò íàñ÷¸ò íåçíà÷èòåëüíîñòè òðóïèêîâ Ìaäÿ è 5$MIX, âûëîæåííûå çäåñü îïóñû êîòîðûõ êàê ðàç ïî÷òè âñå ñòðàäàþò ÊÍÈ ïîðÿäêà 10% ! Îäíî èç òð¸õ, èëè îíè íå ïîíèìàþò, ÷òî òàêîå èñêàæåíèÿ, èëè èì íàäî ìåíÿòü ìîíèòîðû.... |
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Èñêëþ÷èòåëüíà ðîêàâûå ÷àñòîòû
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Îíî êëèïóåò, íî òðóïèêè íå ñðàáàòûâàþò, êàê òàê? >êàê ïîíèçèòü êëèïóþùèé êèðïè÷ ñ óðîâíåì -3 äá íèæå íîëÿ? Êàê, ðó÷êîé ôåéäåðà, ãåéíîì. Èíäèêàöèÿ íà ìàñòåðå è íå áóäåò òîãäà ñðàáàòûâàòü. ß ýòèì ñïîñîáîì ïîíèçèë äåñÿòîê òðåêîâ https://cloud.mail.ru/public/UsS5/av1JCPwED Íè÷åãî íå òðóïèêàåò, êàê îáúÿñíèòü? |
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Èñêëþ÷èòåëüíà ðîêàâûå ÷àñòîòû
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>Òðóïèêè íèêòî íå ñëûøèò, ýòî ìèêðîñåêóíäû, íî îíè Íå çíàþ î ÷¸ì âû, ïðè êèðïè÷å îíè äëÿòñÿ äåñÿòêàìè ñåêóíä äî òîãî, êàê èì ïîíèçèòü óðîâåíü |
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Èñêëþ÷èòåëüíà ðîêàâûå ÷àñòîòû
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ß â óïîð äàþ âèäîñ ãëÿíóòü, ãäå âñ¸ íàãëÿäíî ïîêàçàíî À òóò êàê îáû÷íî, øàáàø êàêîé òî |
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Èñêëþ÷èòåëüíà ðîêàâûå ÷àñòîòû
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Íå ëþáëþ ïóñòîé áîëòîâíè åðåòèêîâ Íàòå, Èâàíû÷à íà ðàñòåðçàíèå, øîáû ñâî¸ òîæå çàïàõëî âåñíîé  https://cloud.mail.ru/public/3cik/y5pxWh3ZC |
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Èñêëþ÷èòåëüíà ðîêàâûå ÷àñòîòû
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Íó ÷î òàì ïî àòàêàì ïî òðóïèêàì? Ìåøàåò ëè îäíî äðóãîìó? Èëè òîëüêî Èâàíû÷ó ìîæíî êèðïè÷è ëåïèòü è ïðîïîâåäîâàòü î ñâÿòûõ íàìåðåíèÿõ? Ïîõîæå íà ïðîïîâåäü Ïàòðèàðõà Êèðèëëà äëÿ ãðåøíèêîâ, à ó ñàìîãî òà÷êè áëóäíèöû è êðåñòèê ñêëàäíîé 
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>ß â óïîð äàþ âèäîñ ãëÿíóòü, ãäå âñ¸ íàãëÿäíî ïîêàçàíî >À òóò êàê îáû÷íî, øàáàø êàêîé òî òû ïîíèìàåøü ÷òî â êîìïå, â ÄÀÂ, òîëüêî íîëèêè è åäèíè÷êè, öèôåðêè îäíè áåãàþò, ïîýòîìó òû ìîæåøü êðóòèòü âñå ñèêîñü íàêîñü, õîòü +30 äá íà ãðàôèêå íàðèñóé, ýòî áóäóò âñåãî ëèøü íàáîðû íîëèêîâ è åäèíè÷åê, öèôðîâîé äâîè÷íûé ñèãíàë. íàáîð íîëèêîâ è åäèíè÷åê ñòàíåò íàïðÿæåíèåì, êîòîðîå ðàñêà÷èâàåò äèíàìèêè òîëüêî òîãäà, êîãäà åãî ñôîðìèðóåò ÖÀÏ â çâóêîâîé êàðòå, èç êîìàíä òåõ ñàìûõ íîëèêîâ è åäèíè÷åê! òàê âîò, ýòî âîëøåáíûé è çàãàäî÷íûé ÖÀÏ ðàáîòàåò êàê íàäî (áåç ïåðäåæà, òðåñêà è êëèïà) òîëüêî òîãäà, êîãäà íà íåãî ïðèõîäèò ñèãíàë èç íîëèêîâ è åäèíè÷åê, îïèñûâàþùèé óðîâåíü, íèæå íîëÿ! êàê òîëüêî ó òâîåé êèðïè÷íîé øåâåëåíêè "íèæå íîëÿ" èç êàðòèíêè â ÄÀ ïðîëåòåëà êîìàíäà âûøå íîëÿ - âñå, ÖÀÏ óéäåò â ïåðåãðóç è âûäàñò ïåðäåæ âìåñòî çâóêà! ýòî ïîíÿòíî? è íè êàêèå ãàðìîíè÷åñêèå êîíôëèêòû òóò íå ïðè ÷åì.
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ß íà ÖÀÏ è ïîäàþ êèðïè÷ Èâàíû÷à, ñíà÷àëà íîðìàëèçîâàííûé ïîòîì ñíèæàþ åìó ãðîìêîñòü ïî èíäèêàöèè ÒÏ Íî êèðïè÷îì òî îí áûòü íå ïåðåñòàë. È ñ àòàêàìè êàêîé òî áåäû íå íàáëþäàþ. |
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>Òðóïèêè íèêòî íå ñëûøèò, ýòî ìèêðîñåêóíäû, íî îíè ñâèäåòåëüñòâóþò î íàëè÷èè èñêàæåíèé, êîòîðûå, åñëè íå ñëûøíî, çíà÷èò íåò ïðàâèëüíîãî ìîíèòîðèíãà Èâàíû÷, ÷òî ñêàæåòå â ñâî¸ îïðàâäàíèå íà âàøåì æå ïðèìåðå? Âðîäå íå ìîè ýòî ñëîâà. Êàê âèäíî èçíà÷àëüíî, ïðè íîðìàëèçàöèè, òàì "æèâîãî ìåñòà íåò", ñóäÿ ïî âàøèì ñëîâàì |
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Àõ äà, èñêàæåíèÿ À äèñòîðøí ãèòàðà ìîæåò ñâèäåòåëüñòâîâàòü î íàëè÷èè èñêàæåíèé? Êàê òàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî íà íåé äàæå èãðàþò? È äàæå êàêàÿ òî ìóçûêà âûõîäèò. È äàæå â îêîíå÷íîñòè îíà ìîæåò áûòü áåç ïèêîâ, òðóïèêîâ è òä è òï. Ýòî ÷èñòî íà ïîäóìàòü ÿâíûé ïðèìåð íåñîîòâåòñòâèÿ òîìó, ÷òî çäåñü ïûòàåòñÿ äîíîñèòüñÿ |
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>Àõ äà, èñêàæåíèÿ >À äèñòîðøí ãèòàðà ìîæåò ñâèäåòåëüñòâîâàòü î íàëè÷èè èñêàæåíèé? >Êàê òàê ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî íà íåé äàæå èãðàþò ðàç òàê, ÷î ñòåñíÿòüñÿ, äîáàâü äèñòîðøåíà íà âîêàë, òàðåëêè è áàðàáàñû, áî÷êà è äèñòîðøåíîì íàâåðíîå î÷åíü çàéäåò ðîöêåðàì âñåõ ìàñòåé )) |
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Òàê ÿ è íå ñòåñíÿþñü Äàþ ïîíÿòü òåì, êòî äåëàåò òàê æå, íî ãîâîðèò î ÷¸ì òî îáðàòíîì, óòâåðæäàÿñü â íàäóìàííîé ñâÿòîñòè ÷òî ýòî ïóñòîé ãîí Ñ ïðóôàìè 
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