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Òåìà: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 10:46 |
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Âñåì ïðèâåò))) Ïîñîâåòóéòå ïëèç ïðîöåññîð ýôôåêòîâ äî 50òð Ñêëîíÿþñü ê âûáîðó Lexicon mpx1 á/ó çà 20òð. Ìîæåò ÷òî òî ïîëó÷øå åñòü? Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî. Êñòàòè, íîâûå Lexicon mx 300 è mx 400 êòî íèáóäü ïðîáîâàë? |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 11:07 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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mpx1 õâàëÿò â ñåòè, íî îòïóãèâàåò, òî ÷òî îí àíîíñèðîâàí 1996 ãîäó... à ñîâðåìåííûå Ëåêñû ñåðèè mx ðóãàþò, ìîæåò ýòî êàê ñ âèíäîóâñ 7 ïîñëå õð - íîâîå, íå ïðèâû÷íîå âîò è ðóãàþò... |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 11:12 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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Óïñ, çàáûë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íóæíà äëÿ âîêàëà, òàêàÿ ïëîòíàÿ, êîðîòêàÿ øèïÿùàÿ ðåâåðáåðàöèÿ, êàê ó áîëüøèíñòâà ñîâðåìåííûõ ïåñåí. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 11:21 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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Àïïàðàòíàÿ íóæíà, hardware. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 14:06 |
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-- 400-é ÿ ïðîäàë ìíîãî ëåò íàçàä, à äîâîëåí ýòèì - äî ñèõ ïîð. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 14:29 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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>-- 400-é ÿ ïðîäàë ìíîãî ëåò íàçàä, à äîâîëåí ýòèì - äî ñèõ ïîð. Âû íå óêàçàëè êàêèì? |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 15:17 |
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Pey whiskey Love siski 
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>>-- 400-é ÿ ïðîäàë ìíîãî ëåò íàçàä, à äîâîëåí ýòèì - äî ñèõ ïîð. >Âû íå óêàçàëè êàêèì? Ëîíã äîâîëåí òåì, ÷òî ïðîäàë 400-é. |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 18:02 |
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>Óïñ, çàáûë ñêàçàòü, ÷òî íóæíà äëÿ âîêàëà, òàêàÿ ïëîòíàÿ, êîðîòêàÿ øèïÿùàÿ ðåâåðáåðàöèÿ, êàê ó áîëüøèíñòâà ñîâðåìåííûõ ïåñåí. Îäèí ñöûëü íà þòþá, íàïðèìåð... À òàê, â êà÷åñòâå ðåâåðà, õâàëèëè Áðèêàñòè Ì7. |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 19:00 |
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>Lexicon vs. TC Electronics TC Electronics (ê ïðèìåðó M2000M3000) ëó÷øèé àïïàðàò äëÿ èìèòàöèé ðàçíûõ ïîìåùåíèé, ïîýòîìó åãî ëþáÿò êèíîøíèêè |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 19:49 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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TC Electronics âçÿë ïîïðîáîâàë - íå ìóç äåâàéñ âîîáùå, òî÷íî êèíîøíûé... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 19:53 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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>> >Îäèí ñöûëü íà þòþá, íàïðèìåð... > Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë: |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 23:14 |
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Íàñòîÿùèå æåëåçêè íà ðåâåðáåðàöèè Lexicon 480 Lexicon 300 NuVerb Lexicon PCM70 Lexicon MPX-1 Ýòî ìîé ëè÷íèé ðåéòèíã (íè íà ÷òî íå ïðåòåíäóþ), â êîòîðûé âêëþ÷åíû èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî ïðèáîðû, êîòîðûìè äîâåëîñü ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ â ðåàëüíîé ðàáîòå. Áóäó ðàä, åñëè ýòî ïîìîæåò îïðåäåëèòüñÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 12.07.2016 23:22 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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Ñïàñèáî dess, à êîìïðåññîð åù¸ íå ïîñîâåòóåòå? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 01:44 |
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>TC Electronics âçÿë ïîïðîáîâàë - íå ìóç äåâàéñ âîîáùå, òî÷íî êèíîøíûé... íî ñàì çâóê ñàìûé êà÷åñòâåííûé èç âñåãî â ýòîì äèàïàçîíå äëèííûå âûñîêî÷àñòîòíûå õâîñòû ðåâåðáåðàöèè áåç âñÿêîãî ÃÐßÇÍÎÃÎ ÏÅÑÊÀ â îòëè÷èè îò êîíêóðåíòîâ |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 02:10 |
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Saint-Petersburg
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>Ñïàñèáî dess, à êîìïðåññîð åù¸ íå ïîñîâåòóåòå? Ýòî ãîðàçäî ñëîæíåå. Î÷åíü ìíîãî çàâèñèò îò òîãî, ÷òî è êàê Âû ñîáèðàåòåñü êîìïðåññèðîâàòü, à òàê æå îò áþäæåòà, ñòèëÿ/æàíðà/íàïðàâëåíèÿ ìóçûêè è ëè÷íîãî âêóñà. Ëè÷íî ÿ â ðàçíûõ óñëîâèÿõ ïîëüçóþñü ËÞÁÛÌ äîñòóïíûì/èìåþùåìñÿ çäåñü è ñåé÷àñ. Ëþáèìûé — êëîí vari-mu îò Âëàäèìèðà Ïåòðîâà. Íà ðàáîòå èñïîëüçóþ íîâîäåëüíûé Universal Audio 2-1176 Twin. Ïîêàçàëñÿ ìíå èíòåðåñíûì Stereochannel îò óâàæàåìîãî Long'à, íî ó ìåíÿ íåò ñâîåãî, óâû... Èç ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííûõ ìíå ÑÊÎÐÅÅ ÍÅ íðàâèòñÿ (èëè íå ïîêàçàëîñü) — Symetrix 501 è dbx 1066. Íî ïðèçûâàþ Âàñ íå ñëèøêîì îïèðàòüñÿ íà ìîé (è ÷åé-ëèáî åù¸!) îïûò, à ïûòàòüñÿ íàðàáàòûâàòü ñâîé. |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 02:12 |
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Saint-Petersburg
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Êñòàòè, ðåâåðáåðàòîðû TC Elåctronics ìíå íå ïîíðàâèëèñü. Ó íèõ ìíå ïîêàçàëèñü èíòåðåñíûìè õîðóñû, à ïðîñòðàíñòâà òèïà "hall" — íà ìîé âêóñ ñëèøêîì ìàòåìàòè÷íû. À ÿ ëþáëþ ìóçûêó âìåñòî ÷èñòûõ ñèíóñîâ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 03:23 |
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Moscow
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>mpx1 õâàëÿò â ñåòè, íî îòïóãèâàåò, òî ÷òî îí àíîíñèðîâàí 1996 ãîäó... -- Íå ïóãàéòåñü. 480-é âîîáùå â 1986 áûë âûïóùåí, àí - è ïîíûíå îäèí èç ëó÷øèõ ðåâåðîâ. Âîò ñîâðåìåííûå ëåêñû - ëó÷øå íå íàäî. Áÿêà... 
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 09:18 |
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Ìîñêâà
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Ñòàðûå äèãèòå÷è ïîñìîòðèòå... Òîò æå ëåêñèêîí òîëüêî ñáîêó | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 12:10 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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Âñåì ñïàñèáî íà÷íó ñâîé ïóòü ñ ìðõ1. À èç êîìïðåññîðîâ âûáîð ïàë íà dbx160 èëè 160À |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 13:25 |
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Moscow
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>èç êîìïðåññîðîâ âûáîð ïàë íà dbx160 èëè 160À -- À âîò ýòî - çðÿ. Äè÷àéøèé îâåðïðàéñ, êàê ìèíèìóì. (Ïðî "êàê÷åñòâî" ñîâðåìåííûõ äáõ - ãîâîðèòü, ïîëàãàþ, íå íàäî?) Íóæåí õîðîøèé êîìïðåññîð è íå äîðîãî - ñìîòðèòå â ñòîðîíó 3630 ñ íàøåé ïåðåäåëêîé. Ýòî ÷óòü ëè íå âòðîå äåøåâëå 160À, òîëüêî áóäóò ÄÂÀ êàíàëà, è ÕÎÐÎØÈÕ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 14:55 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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Long ñïñ, íóæíî ïðîìîíèòîðèòü. ß òóò ñ Mpx1 ìóäîõàþñü.... êàê íàñòðîèòü ðåâåðá äëÿ âîêàëà? Òðè âîïðîñà: 1) ÷òî ëó÷øå âûáðàòü: vocal plate, hall, chamber ( small, medium, large, rich) è òä 2) êàêîé óñòàíîâèòü Pre-delay 3) êàêîé äëèíû Decay Äîïóñòèì, ïîïñà, ðèòì òðåêà 120 óäàðîâ â ìèíóòó... |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2016 22:56 |
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Saint-Petersburg
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>Long ñïñ, íóæíî ïðîìîíèòîðèòü. >ß òóò ñ Mpx1 ìóäîõàþñü.... êàê íàñòðîèòü ðåâåðá äëÿ âîêàëà? >Òðè âîïðîñà: >1) ÷òî ëó÷øå âûáðàòü: vocal plate, hall, chamber ( small, medium, large, rich) è òä >2) êàêîé óñòàíîâèòü Pre-delay >3) êàêîé äëèíû Decay >Äîïóñòèì, ïîïñà, ðèòì òðåêà 120 óäàðîâ â ìèíóòó... ÎÒÂÅÒÈË â "ëè÷êó" |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 09:17 |
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Ìîñêâà Roland XP-80, Main Stage, Logic Pro 
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>ß òóò ñ Mpx1 ìóäîõàþñü.... êàê íàñòðîèòü ðåâåðá äëÿ âîêàëà? Êóïèë òóò ñêðèïêó Ãâàðíåðè. Íà ôîðóìàõ ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî Ñòðàäèâàðè êðóòî, íî äîðîãî. À íà Ãâàðíåðè òèïà Ïàãàíèíè èãðàë è òîæå íîðìàëüíî áûëî. Âîò òåïåðü ñ íåé ìóäîõàþñü. ×òî íà íåé èãðàòü, ÷òîá êðóòî çâó÷àëî è äåíåã äàëè? (ïåðâûé òàíåö æåíèõà è íåâåñòû) Òàïêàìè íå êèäàéòåñü, - â æèçíè íà ñêðèïêå íå èãðàë. 
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 10:11 |
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Ìîñêâà Roland XP-80, Main Stage, Logic Pro
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>Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë: >https://youtu.be/EBEirN5_jo8 Âîò áóäåò ïðèêîë, åñëè òàì íà ñàìîì äåëå êàêîé-íèáóäü Space Designer
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 10:24 |
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Í-ñê Keyboards
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>>Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë: >>https://youtu.be/EBEirN5_jo8 > Âîò áóäåò ïðèêîë, åñëè òàì íà ñàìîì äåëå êàêîé-íèáóäü Space Designer À ÿ ÷òî-òî íå óâåðåí, ÷òî ðåâåð ïðèâíîñèò "øèïåíèå". Ñêëîíåí äóìàòü, ÷òî íåò. Çà "øèïåíèå" îòâå÷àåò íå ðåâåð. Âïðî÷åì, ìîæíî îòûñêàòü ñòàðûé àíàëîãîâûé — âîò òàì ñîáñòâåííûé "øèï" è åù¸ è ìåòàëëè÷åñêèé ïðèçâóê, — è ãîòîâî î÷åðåäíîå ìîäíîå çâó÷àíèå ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 16:51 |
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Lexicon vs. TC Electronics Ñðâíèâàòü íåò ñìûñëà. Ýòî ëèäåðû ðåâåðîñòðîåíèÿ. Ðàçíûå êîíöåïöèè, ðàçíûå àëãîðèòìû. Øèðîêî èñïîëüçóåþòñÿ âî âñåõ òîïîâûõ ñòóäèÿõ ìèðà. Ìîè ëþáèìûå - TC M 6000, Lexicon 224XL |
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Ñàìîå ñ÷àñòëèâîå âðåìÿ-ýòî äåòñòâî, êîãäà â äåðåâíå ó áàáóøêè áåæèøü íî÷üþ èç òóàëåòà è ðàäóåøüñÿ, ÷òî òåáÿ íèêòî íå ñúåë !
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2016 21:21 |
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×åáóðàøêè ó êîòîðîãî íå áûëî äðóçåé
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>TC Electronics âçÿë ïîïðîáîâàë - íå ìóç äåâàéñ âîîáùå, òî÷íî êèíîøíûé... îøèáàåòåñü. âïîëíå ñåáå ðàáî÷èå ëîøàäêè. 6000/4000 - î÷åíü õîðîøèå. âîïðåêè áûòóþùåìó ìíåíèþ, ìíå íðàâèòñÿ è 5000, õîðóñû òàì çàìå÷àòåëüíûå. êîãäà â 2009 óñëûøàë Bricasti M7 - ñðàçó êóïèë. è âîò ïî÷åìó - ÿ òùàòåëüíî ýêâàëèçîâàë è êîìïðåññèðîâàë õâîñòû Lexicon 300/480, âêëþ÷èë M7 è óñëûøàë ðîâíî òî, ÷òî õîòåë. áåçî âñÿêèõ òàíöåâ ñ áóáíàìè. â êà÷åñòâå ðåçþìå - ìîè ëè÷íûå ôàâîðèòû - Bricasti M7, AMS RMX16, Yamaha SPX90, Lexicon PCM70 è tc6000. â êà÷åñòâå ýôôåêò-ïðîöåññîðîâ - Eventide DSP4000/H8000FW, tc FireworX. |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 01:05 |
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>Bricasti M7, AMS RMX16, Yamaha SPX90, Lexicon PCM70 è tc6000. â êà÷åñòâå ýôôåêò-ïðîöåññîðîâ - Eventide DSP4000/H8000FW, tc FireworX. Ïðàâèëüíûé âûáîð, òîëüêî 70-é øóìíîâàò, ïîýòîìó ó ìåíÿ 81-é. |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 02:53 |
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You can try TC Electronics Flashback, bro. I bought it, and im really glad i did! The looper is no longer the prime use of this pedal as i intended, i didnt tought that the delay effects would sound this nice. 
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 09:36 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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>>Äà ïîëíî... âîò íàïðèìåð ñàìûé ÿðêî-øèïÿùèé âîêàë: >>https://youtu.be/EBEirN5_jo8 >Âîò áóäåò ïðèêîë, åñëè òàì íà ñàìîì äåëå êàêîé-íèáóäü Space Designer Ìíå êàæåòñÿ ýòî êà÷åñòâåííûé ðåâåð òàêèå êîñìè÷åñêèå òøèèèè - òøèèèè )) øèïåíèÿ âûäà¸ò, ó äåø¸âîãî ðåâåðà, åñëè ââåðõ çàäðàòü, òî ìåòàëëè÷åñêèé çâóê áóäåò. Âîò åù¸ ïðèìåð õîðîøî ñëûøíî íà æåíñêîì âîêàëå: |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
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Ìîñêâà Fender Am Deluxe ProTools12 
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bumpup , ýòî ÷òî çà ñàòàíèçì? | |
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Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
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Ìîñêâà Roland XP-80, Main Stage, Logic Pro
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>îáû÷íî âåðõ ðåæóò âðîäå) Íó ìàëî ëè ÷òî ÷åëîâåêó ïîêàçàëîñü. Íîðìàëüíàÿ ïðàêòèêà â ñòóäèè, êîãäà êëèåíò óâåðåí, ÷òî ýòîò øèïÿùèé âåðõ èìåííî îò ðåâåðà, äà åùå îáÿçàòåëüíî îò äîðîãîãî è íåïðåìåííî æåëåçíîãî. Ðàçóáåæäàòü áåñïîëåçíî.
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 13:04 |
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Ìîñêâà Ñòðàòîêàñòåð
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Íó à ÷òî ýòî? Âàøè ïðåäïîëîæåíèÿ? |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 13:36 |
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Êóðñê
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Bricasti M7, tc6000.... ìå÷òà! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 15:47 |
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Moscow
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>Âîò åù¸ ïðèìåð õîðîøî ñëûøíî íà æåíñêîì âîêàëå: > -- ×òî, íà ÝÒÎÌ ÷òî-òî îöåíèâàòü??????? Íàñòîëüêî âñ¸ óãàíäîøåíî ñæàòèåì, áåññìûñëåííî... >ýý ýêñàéòåð? ãàðìîíàéçåð? -- Ýý.... Àïïàðàòû, íå èìåþùèå íè÷åãî îáùåãî ìåæäó ñîáîé. Êàéô.... |
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 17:51 |
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>Ãàðìîíè÷åñêèé ýíõàíñåð Ãàðìîíèêè ñïåêòðà, ýòî íå ãàðìîíèÿ ñäåëàííàÿ ïèò÷ øèôòåðîì... ìåíüøå ÷èòàéòå âñÿêèå âèêèïåäèè, à òî áóäåò ãîðìîíè÷åñêîå ïåðåâîçáóæäåíèå:-) |
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Ñàìîå ñ÷àñòëèâîå âðåìÿ-ýòî äåòñòâî, êîãäà â äåðåâíå ó áàáóøêè áåæèøü íî÷üþ èç òóàëåòà è ðàäóåøüñÿ, ÷òî òåáÿ íèêòî íå ñúåë !
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 18:08 |
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Ó÷èòåëÿ, ïîäè êàæäûé ìåñÿö íàâåùàåòå â ìàâçîëåå ?:-) Õîòèòå ñîáðàíèå ñî÷èíåíèé âîæäÿ ? |
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Ñàìîå ñ÷àñòëèâîå âðåìÿ-ýòî äåòñòâî, êîãäà â äåðåâíå ó áàáóøêè áåæèøü íî÷üþ èç òóàëåòà è ðàäóåøüñÿ, ÷òî òåáÿ íèêòî íå ñúåë !
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 18:21 |
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Õîðîøî. Îòñêàíèðóþ. Áóäåò ïðèìåðíî 32 òåðàáàéòà. | |
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Ñàìîå ñ÷àñòëèâîå âðåìÿ-ýòî äåòñòâî, êîãäà â äåðåâíå ó áàáóøêè áåæèøü íî÷üþ èç òóàëåòà è ðàäóåøüñÿ, ÷òî òåáÿ íèêòî íå ñúåë !
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 18:39 |
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Âñ¸, ïîø¸ë æàòü... Íî èìåéòå ââèäó, åñëè ó âàñ íå òî÷íî 220v, òî íè÷åãî íå ïîëó÷èòå. Ìû ðàáîòàåì òîëüêî ñ ñåðòèôèöèðîâàííûìè ïîòðåáèòåëÿìè ! |
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Ñàìîå ñ÷àñòëèâîå âðåìÿ-ýòî äåòñòâî, êîãäà â äåðåâíå ó áàáóøêè áåæèøü íî÷üþ èç òóàëåòà è ðàäóåøüñÿ, ÷òî òåáÿ íèêòî íå ñúåë !
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Òåìà: Re: Lexicon vs. TC Electronics
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2016 20:28 |
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Moscow
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>íåìîãó! Â.È.Ë., Çàâåùàë ÷èòàòü! -- Óãó. ÙÀÇÇÇ! «Ó÷èòüñÿ, ó÷èòüñÿ è ó÷èòüñÿ» ÏÑÑ, ò. 45. |
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