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Òåìà: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 05.06.2009 17:14 |
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âñåì ïðþâåò...ÿ âñ¸ â ïîèñêàõ ïóëüòà  ..â ÷¸ì ðàçëè÷èÿ ìåæäó Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r?
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
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ñëóøàé, âîò äàæå íåïîíÿòíî - çà÷åì òåáå ïîêóïàòü ïóëüò, åñëè òû íå â ñîñòîÿíèè ïðîàíàëèçèðîâàòü åãî îñîáåííîñòè?.. ñîððè, áåç îáèä.. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 12:49 |
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âîò èìåííî ïîýòîìó è ñïðàùèâàþ çíàþùèõ ëþäåé..òàê êàê ñ ïóëüòîì êðîìå êàê ñ ñîôòîâûì â ñàìïëèòóäå ÿ äåëà âîîáùå íå èìåë .à ÷èòàòü ïðîñòî ëèòåðàòóðó ïðî ïóëüòû íå èìåÿ åãî íà ðóêàõ íåîõîòà.à âìåñòî òîãî ÷òîáû îòâå÷àòü âîïðîñîì íà âîïðîñ ëó÷øå áû ïîìîãëè
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 12:52 |
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ïîëó÷èëîñü òèïà.çà÷åì ìíå ïîêóïàëè â äåòñâå âåëîñèïåä ??åñëè ÿ íå óìåþ åçäèòü
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 12:54 |
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 Ìàíóàëàõ íàïèñàíû âñå âîçìîæíîñòè è õàðàêòåðèñòèêè - ñðàâíèâ ìàíóàëû - ìîæíî ñäåëàòü âûâîäû - åñëè òî ÷òî òàì íàïèñàíî, íåïîíÿòíî - íî îáúÿñíåíèÿ çäåñü ïîêàæóòñ òàêèìè æå íåïîíÿòíûìè...)) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 13:06 |
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ìàíóàëû ìàíóàëàìè .à åñëè ÷åëîâåê ðàáîòàë ñ îäíèì èç íèõ òî ìîæåò óêàçàòü íà ìèíóñû è ïëþñû ïóëüòîâ.à íå êîëè÷åñòâî âõîäîâ è âûõîäîâ.áóäåì æäàòü îáëàäàòåëåé. )) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 13:23 |
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2ðîê2000 Ñòðàííûé Âû ÷åëîâåê... Òî Íîéìàí ïàëåíûé.. Òî óáèòûé 02ð áåç ýêðàíà íå ïóãàë - ëèøü áû ïîäåøåâëå, à òåïåðü áóäó âûáèðàòü ìåæäó 02 è 03 - ìíå î÷åíü âàæíû îñîáåííîñòè è ÷àñòíîñòè....  ìàíóàëàõ âñ¸ åñòü.. Íî íå äî âñåõ äîõîäèò, ÷òî ïðåæäå ñåì íà÷àòü ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ(íå ãîâîðÿ óæå î êóïèòü) ñëîæíûì äåâàéñîì, íåïëîõî áû èçó÷èòü ìàíóàë - ýòî ñîâîê... "Ìû êðóòûå - ìû ïî ôèøå÷êàì ðàçáåðåìñÿ, ìàíóàëû äëÿ ëîõîâ, ìû ÓÌÍÛÅ.. ñàìè ðàçáåðåìñÿ... Ëó÷øå âîí ñ Ïåòðîâè÷à ñïðîñèòü..." À ïîòîì óäèâëÿþòñÿ - ÷òî ýòî ÷óòîê ïðå-àóêñîâ-òî îêàçûâàåòñÿ íåò, èëè èç öèôðû òîëüêî ÀÄÀÒ åñòü.. "À Ïåòðîâè÷-òî íå ñêàçàë - âîò îí äóðàê.." À ïåòðîâè÷-òî çíàë - ïðîñòî îí æ òâîè ìûñëè íå ÷èòàåò... Óäà÷è îäíèì ñëîâîì... ) |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 14:01 |
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ìèêøåðíûé ïóëüò - ýòî èíñòðóìåíò ðåøåíèÿ îïðåäåëåííûõ çàäà÷. àáñîëþòíî òî÷íî îïðåäåëåíûõ. èëè çàäåë íà áóäóùåå. òîæå ñòðîãî îïðåäåëåíûé. ïîíèìàíèå çàäà÷ îäíîçíà÷íî ïðèâîäèò ê âûâîäó îòíîñèòåëüíî íåîáõîäèìîñòè òîãî èëè èíîãî ïóëüòà. ïðîñòî ôóíêöèîíàëüíî. âñå. äàæå î êîëè÷åñòâå êàíàëîâ ãîâîðèòü íå áóäó. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 14:04 |
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äà, âîïðîñ òâîé óìåñòåí ñêîðåå â ìóçûêàëüíîì ìàãàçèíå, ãäå ïðîäàâåö îáÿçàí âñå îáúÿñíÿòü äàæå èäèîòó.. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 15:38 |
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êàêàÿ âàì ðàçíèöà êàêîé ÷åëîâåê ,åñëè íè÷åãî âíÿòíîãî ñêàçàòü íå ìîæåòå.ïîïðîáóþ âîïðîñ ïåðåôðîçèðîâàòü .íàäî ïóëüò äëÿ ñâåäåíèÿ â ïàðå ñ êîìïîì .êîìï èãðàåò, ïóëüò ñâîäèò.äóìàþ çàäà÷à ñåé÷àñ ÿñíà åñòü çâóêîâóõà FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE PRO 40 ..òåïåðü .êàêîé èç ýòèõ äâóõ ïóëüòîâ ñïðàâèòñÿ ñ ýòîé çàäà÷åé ëó÷øå??? èëè êàêîé èç íèõ áîëüøå ïîäõîäèò äëÿ ýòîãî ??.
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 15:46 |
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Ñâîäèò îáû÷íî íå ïóëüò, à ÷åëîâåê çà íèì ñèäÿùèé. åìó è ðåøàòü.. êàêèå-òî íîìèíàëüíûå îñîáåííîñòè ñðàâíåíèÿ ÿ íå ïîëåíþñü è ñãåîäíÿ íî÷üþ òåáå âûïèøó - ÈÇ ÌÀÍÓÀËÎÂ... | |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 16:00 |
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ÿ òåáå âñå ìîãó ñêàçàòü, áëèí. âíÿòíî. òîëüêî çà÷åì? ñêîüêî òåáå êàíàëîâ äëÿ ìèêñà íàäî?.. âîñüìè õâàòèò, ðîäíîé? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 16:47 |
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Ïàðíè, ñïîêîéíî. ×óòü ëåã÷å.)) rock2000, îáúÿñíþ íà ïàëüöàõ. Äóìàþ, ñåêðåòà íå îòêðîþ. Ñìîòðè, ñõåìà òàêàÿ - äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ñâîäèòü â öèôð.ïóëüòå, íóæíî â íåãî ïîäàòü ìíîãî êàíàëîâ. Ëèáî ïî öèôðå (÷åðåç 3-4 ADATa), ëèáî ÷ç àíàëîã - äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíû 24-32 êàíàëîâ ÀÖÏ, íî â ïîñëåäíåì ïîëó÷àåì ëèøíåå ÀÖÏ-ÖÀÏ è êó÷ó ëèøíåãî äîðîãîãî æåëåçà. Òåïåðü íóæíî âûÿñíèòü, êàêèå ó ðàññìàòðèâàåìûõ ïóëüòîâ åñòü ìíîã.êàí. èíòåðôåñû è ñîîòâ. îáîðóäîâàòü êîìï., êîòîðûé â ýòîì ñëó÷àå ñëóæèò ïðîñòî "íàêîïèòåëåì äîðîæåê". Ñêîðåé âñåãî ïîíàäîáèòñÿ ÷òî-òî âðîäå RME HDSP. Åñëè ÷òî ïðîïóñòèë, êîëëåãè ïîïðàâÿò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2009 16:53 |
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Ñâîäèò îáû÷íî íå ïóëüò, à ÷åëîâåê çà íèì ñèäÿùèé. åìó è ðåøàòü.. êàêèå-òî íîìèíàëüíûå îñîáåííîñòè ñðàâíåíèÿ ÿ íå ïîëåíþñü è ñãåîäíÿ íî÷üþ òåáå âûïèøó - ÈÇ ÌÀÍÓÀËÎÂ... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 07.06.2009 09:55 |
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âûõîäîâ â ìîåé çâóêîâîé 20 ..íî êàê âèæó âû ñîâñåì íå ïîíÿëè ìîåãî âîïðîñà ..êàêîé áîëüøå ïóëüò ïîòõîäèò äëÿ ýòèõ çàäà÷?ýòîò ??èëè òîò??? ëþäè êàí÷àéòå óìíè÷àòü, ãîâîðèòå ïî ñóùåñòâó n0-YåS..less ñïàñèáî çà òðåçâîå îòíîøåíèå ê äåëó.
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 07.06.2009 12:29 |
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íåíàâèæó ôèðìó ßìàõà.. Íåò èíôîðìàöèè íà ñàéòå ïî ñíÿòûì ñ ïðîèçâîäñòâà èçäåëèÿì... Íî òåì íå ìåíåå âîò ïî 02ð96ÂÖÌ èíôà: A Complete Revamp of the Legendary 02R After its release in August 1995, the 02R rapidly became the de-facto digital console standard for musicians and engineers around the globe(ï-è-çäåæ). The 02R96 picks up where the 02R left off, implementing the most advanced digital audio technology developed and refined in parallel with development of the top-of-the-line DM2000 console(ðàçíûå äå ôàêòî êîíñîëè, íî ïî çâóêó - îäíà ôèãíÿ). The result is that the 02R96 surpasses the 02R in every respect: audio quality, processing power, and DAW integration capability. Where the 02R had 21 motor faders, the 02R96 has 25. Other additions include recorder control keys, user defined keys, and dramatically improved operability overall. But since it has the same footprint as the 02R, it can be used as a direct replacement without requiring major infrastructure changes. Precise 24-bit/96-kHz Audio and High-performance Head Amps Advanced custom DSP7 LSIs feature 32-bit internal processing (58-bit accumulator) at extremely high speed. Full functionality is provided when mixing all 56 channels at 96 kHz. All analog inputs and outputs - including the 16 microphone/line inputs - employ precision 24-bit A/ ÂÎÒ ÇÄÅÑÜ ÂÍÈÌÀÍÈÅ - 16 ìèê-ëàéí èíïóòîâ...(Òû ïðàâäà çàäà÷è íå îáðèñîâàë - ïîýòîìó íåïîíÿòíî ñêîëüêî è ÷ãåîò òåáå íàäî, è ÷òî ó òåáÿ åñòü) D and D/A converters for an outstanding 110-dB dynamic range. Top-performance head amplifiers provide precise, uncolored pre-amplification prior to A/D conversion, and optimum circuit Íàãëàÿ ëîæü - êðàñÿò - ÿð÷àò è äåëàþò çâóê ïîðòèâíûì.... configurations and parts for all stages of the design were determined through repeated listening tests by some of the best "ears" in the industry. 56-input 18-bus Mix Capacity at 96 kHz Although it maintains the same compact desk-top dimensions as the 02R, the 02R96 offers generous mixing capacity with up to 56 simultaneous inputs. All 56 input channels include four-band parametric EQ, gating, compression/limiting, and up to 453 milliseconds of delay with variable feedback. ÂÎ ÂÑÅÕ ÊÀÍÀËÕ ÅÑÒÜ ÝÊÜÞ, ÃÅÉÒ, ÊÎÌÏÐÅÑÑÎÐ, ËÈÌÈÒÅÐ È ÇÀÄÅÐÆÊÀ ÄÎ 453 ÌÑ Ñ ÐÀÇÍÛÌ ÔÈÄÁÅÊÎÌ... What's more, all of this functionality is available at 96 kHz. The output section also offers plenty of versatility with 18 buses: 8 mix buses, 8 auxiliary buses and a stereo bus. 8 ÏÎÄÃÐÓÏÏ, 8 ÀÓÊÑÎÂ È ÑÒÅÐÅÎ ØÈÍÀ Mix buses 1 through 6 also function as surround buses, and a Bus to Stereo function allows sound-reinforcement type sub-mixing as well as easy downmixing of 5.1 or 3-1 surround to stereo. Of the 8 auxiliary buses, 1 through 6 can be used as surround effect sends, and there's 1-6 ÀÓÊÑÛ ÌÎÃÓÒ ÁÛÒÜ ÈÑÏÎËÜÇÎÂÀÍÛ ÊÀÊ 5.1 ÏÎÑÛË... a "Unity" function that automatically sets the auxiliary buses to nominal (0 dB) level, so they can be used as additional mix buses. Powerful Channel Functions with Flexible Control and Patching All 56 input channels, 8 mix buses, 8 auxiliary buses, and stereo bus feature powerful mixing functions including gate and compressor dynamics processing, input attenuation, four-band parametric EQ with a choice of Type I and Type II algorithms, channel inserts, delay, ÈÍÑÅÐÒÛ ÂÅÇÄÅ - ÍÀ ÊÀÍÀËÀÛ, ÏÎÄÃÐÓÏÏÛ È ÀÓÊÑÛ ÑÎ ÑÒÅÐÅÎ ÃÐÓÏÏÎÉ - ÇÀÌÀÍ×ÈÂÎ, ÍÎ ÍÅ ÔÀÊÒ ×ÒÎ ÏÐÀÂÈËÜÍÎ ÍÀÏÈÑÀÍÎ - ÑËÀÁÎ ÍÀÏÐÈÌÅÐ ÑÅÁÅ ÏÐÅÄÑÒÀÂËßÞ ÈÍÑÅÐÒ ÍÀ ÀÓÊÑÅ... surround and stereo panning, and phase. Easy-access dedicated controllers are provided for routing, auxiliary send, dynamics, stereo and surround panning, and EQ. Control data is graphically displayed via the LCD screen, and can be saved in "libraries" for easy recall whenever needed. All inputs, outputs, insert patch points, direct outputs, and effect sends and returns can be freely patched to configure the system as required via graphical on-screen "digital patching" displays: for example, you could patch one input to multiple channels, or assign the signal from one bus to multiple outputs. The encoders associated with each fader can be used to make input patch and direct out settings, and you can save your patch settings as library data for recall when needed. Four Advanced Multi-effect Processors Include Surround Effects The 02R96's four internal effect processors deliver full functionality and performance even when the console is running at 96 kHz. New effect programs such as multi-band compression and surround-compatible 5.1 reverb and 5.1 modulation* augment the console's processing capabilities, and can be used in a send/return loop or as inserts effects. * Each surround processor may occupy up to four of the onboard effect processors. Versatile Connectivity for a Wide Range of Applications The 02R96 rear panel provides 16 microphone/line inputs with balanced XLR/TRS jacks that feature top-performance head amplifiers for outstanding audio quality. These inputs also offer insert I/O jacks with bypass switches, and individual phantom power switches. There are five 2-track inputs: two analog and three digital with built-in sample rate converters. All analog inputs and outputs employ precision 24-bit, 96-kHz converters. Eight versatile "omni" outputs can be used for stereo or surround monitoring. One AES/EBU format digital stereo output and two coaxial digital stereo outputs provide a total of three digital outs for broad connectivity. Four I/O Expansion Slot for Easy Expansion in a Variety of Formats Each of four Mini-YGDAI (Yamaha General Digital Audio Interface) expansion card slots support up to 16 additional channels of digital I/O in AES/EBU, ADAT or TASCAM format, as well as a range of other interface cards including double-speed 96 kHz (AES/EBU) digital I/O cards, 96-kHz compatible AD/DA cards, and a range of analog I/O cards. The 02R96 expansion slot also accepts various Mini-YGDAI compatible cards available from third parties. Comprehensive Interface with Touch-sensitive 100-mm Motor Faders 24 faders provide access to the console's 56 input channels in three layers: 1 through 24, 25 through 48, and 49 through 56 plus master. Add the stereo master and you have a total of 25 top-quality 100-millimeter motor faders with high 8-bit/256-step resolution. The bus and auxiliary faders are provided in another layer, and a "remote" layer is provided for external device control. A Fader Mode key additionally allows the auxiliary send levels to be assigned to the faders. The rotary encoder and switch associated with each fader can be switched to any of four modes via the Encoder Mode key. The encoders can be used for panning or auxiliary send, as well any two functions you assign. You could assign input patching or direct out assignments to the encoders to allow fast, efficient setup in your specific work environment. Scene Memory and Automix Functions for Efficient Workflow The 02R96 features automix capability with 1/4-frame resolution, allowing full automation of parameters right down to the internal effects. Automix functions can be assigned to the User Defined Keys for easy access. Scene memories allow fade times and recall safe settings to be specified independently for each channel, while recall safe can even be specified at the function level. The supplied 02R96 Editor that runs on the Studio Manager application can be used to manage scene and automix data on your personal computer. Versatile Pairing and Grouping Functions Enhance Mixing Efficiency In addition to "horizontal pairing" of adjacent channels, the 02R96 allows "vertical pairing" of channels on different layers so that, for example, you can control up to 24 stereo sources from a single layer. Grouping functions include the familiar fader and mute grouping, as well as sophisticated EQ and dynamics grouping. The latter can be a great advantage when mixing surround sound. 02R96 Editor Software Supplied The 02R96 comes supplied with an advanced 02R96 Editor application for Windows or Mac computers. The 02R96 connects to your computer via the TO HOST interface (USB or RS232), creating a production environment that goes beyond simple parameter viewers. The Console Window, Selected Channel Module, Surround Editor, Patch Editor, Effect Editor, Timecode Counter Window, GEQ Editor, and Library Window can be accessed via the computer's expansive color display, and the main mixer functions can be edited offline. Memory management functions allow 02R96 data to be transferred to and from the computer where it can be managed and even shared via LAN or the Internet. Sophisticated DAW or Digital Recorder Integration In addition to its extensive stand-alone capabilities the 02R96 can integrate with your computer-based DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) or digital recorder to create an advanced digital production environment. The 02R96 can function as a physical controller for both recorder and mixer sections of your DAW. The standard library includes control compatibility with Digidesign Pro Tools® and Steinberg NUENDO® workstations, and the General DAW mode supports a range of other DAW systems. MIDI control tables can also be created to provide functionality with MIDI-compatible DAW systems. An Ideal Platform for Surround Production Surround panning was originally provided on the 02R and 03D, but the 02R96 goes much further with a comprehensive range of features for surround production. The Bus to Stereo function makes it easy to downmix 5.1 or 3-1 surround sources to stereo, and the 3-1 output can be connected via Dolby Surround or DTS stereo encoders back to an 02R96 slot input to allow real-time comparison between the encoded and pre-encoded sound. A panning joystick is provided in the Selected Channel control section to facilitate complex panning moves and trace specified panning patterns. Surround panning features 127 x 127 resolution, and divergence control is possible in 0 ~ 100 steps. Surround-compatible effects in up to 8-in/8-out configurations include 5.1 reverb, modulation, and dynamics.* EQ and dynamics grouping is another feature that can be a great advantage for surround production. * Each surround processor may occupy up to four of the onboard effect processors. Enhanced Surround Monitoring Environment Includes Bass Management The 02R96 monitor section provides facilities for muting individual buses (speakers), centralized level control of all monitor outputs, stem mix monitoring, and real-time comparison between the encoded and pre-encoded Dolby Surround or DTS stereo sound. Downmix processing allows 5.1 to 3-1, 5.1 to stereo, or 3-1 to stereo monitoring without affecting the signal sent to the recorder. A Speaker Control function allows fine control of the monitoring environment to match the program material you are mixing as well as your working environment. All of the top-line DM2000 console's surround features have been implemented in the 02R96, including bass management, attenuators for precise speaker level control, and delay for "virtual speaker repositioning". Version 2 Implements Ideas from the Field(Version2) 02R96 Version 2 implements a range of additions and refinements that reflect the needs of professionals in the field, providing an improved working environment for production, live sound, broadcast, and installed applications. Seamless Add-on Effects Support(Version2) The 02R96 V2 provides full support for all five of Yamaha's Add-on Effects packages (each package is sold separately). The advanced effects and signal-processing capabilities provided by these packages are accessed and operated via the console's internal effect processors in the same way as the built-in effects. A Major Studio Manager Evolution(Version2) The Studio Manager application has undergone a major evolution, and is now a host application that can support multiple editors (such as the 02R96 Editor) within its framework. This offers many advantages including total project recall and smoother online and offline editing with multiple 02R96 units. A variety of other enhancements include Add-on Effect support, multiple windows, and improved overall operability through shortcuts, keyboard operations, drag and drop, and using the console's User Defined Keys to remotely open and close windows. The Console Window now provides a quick online/offline switch, the ability to show or hide the parameter block, user assignable layers, long stroke meters, quick jump to the Selected Channel window by double-clicking the EQ section, and numerical fader level indication. A new Master Fader window and Meter window have been added for easier master level monitoring as well as simultaneous meter display for 48 channels plus gain reduction metering. There's also a new Automix Library window that makes it much easier to use automix. The Selected Channel window now shows gate type and long-stroke channel meters. The Patch Editor window can be resized, provides PM1D-like cursor shape and operation, and makes it possible to list and edit the port names. In the Library window you can operate multiple scenes and libraries simultaneously, recall them directly from hard disk, and link scene memories with patch libraries. As with the 02R96 itself, the Surround Editor window now supports 6.1 channels. You can also use the joystick in the Effect Editor window to control the ER/REV position of the REV 5.1 effect. ÄÀËÜØÅ ÊÎÌÌÅÍÒÈÐÎÂÀÒÜ ÍÅ ÁÓÄÓ - ÍÎ ÄÓÌÀÞ ÏÎÍßÒÍÎ ×ÒÎ Â ÌÀÍÓÀËÅ ÑÎÄÅÐÆÈÒÑß ÂÑß ÍÓÆÍÀ ÒÅÁÅ ÈÍÔÎÐÀÌÖÈß ÏÎ ÏÓËÜÒÀÌ, È ÑÐÀÂÍÈ 2 ÌÀÍÓËÀ ÓÆ ÒÎ×ÍÎ ÌÎÆÍÎ ÐÅØÈÒÜ ÊÀÊÎÉ ÈÇ ÍÈÕ ÁÎËÜØÅ ÏÎÄÎÉÄÅÒ ÏÎÄ ÒÂÎÞ "ËÈ×ÍÓÞ ÑÈÒÓÀÖÈÞ" - ÊÎÒÎÐÓÞ ÒÛ ÍÀÌ ÒÀÊ È ÍÅ ÑÔÎÐÌÓËÈÐÎÀË ÒÎËÊÎÌ - ÈÍÀ×Å ÁÛ ÒÎ×ÍÎ ÏÎËÓ×ÈË ÁÎËÅÅ Î×ÅÐ×ÅÍÍÛÉ È ÊÎÍÊÐÅÒÍÛÉ ÎÒÂÅÒ... ÎÒ ÑÅÁß ÕÎ×ÅÒÑß ÎÒÌÅÒÈÒÜ ÊÐÀÉÍÅ ÓÐÎÄÑÊÎÅ ÎÏÈÑÀÍÈÅ ÒÅÕÍÈÊÈ ÍÀ ÑÀÉÒÅ ßÌÀÕÀ - ÏÐÈØËÎÑÜ ÂÛÓÆÈÂÀÒÜ ÑÏÅÖÈÔÈÊÀÖÈÞ ÈÇ ÄÎËÁÀÍÍÎÃÎ ÒÅÊÑÒÀ... À  ÏÓÍÊÒÅ ÑÏÅÖÈÔÈÊÀÖÈß ÎÇÍÀ×ÅÍÛ ËÈØÜ ÐÀÇÌÅÐÛ.... 2 ÁÀËÀ ÔÈÐÌÅ ßÌÀÕÀ ÇÀ "ÞÇÅÐ-ÔÐÅÍÄËÈ2.... |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 07.06.2009 19:41 |
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ñïàñèáî..ÿ óæå ðàçîáðàëñÿ êàêîé èç íèõ ìíå íàäî 
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
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Ìîñêâà
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ðàçîáðàëñÿ, ìàòü òâîþ! àôèãåòü! ïðàçðàâëÿþ! íåäü 02 áîëüøå òåáå ïîäõîäèò, ïðàâäà? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 08.06.2009 19:20 |
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à ïî÷åìó òû ðåøèë ÷òî 03 ìåíüøå ïîäõîäèò???? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 08.06.2009 19:35 |
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Ñåâàñòîïîëü
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à Ò¸ìà ìûñëè íà ðàññòîÿíèè óìååò ÷èòàòü... | |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGje6mctCXc https://www.realmusic.ru/albums/32323 |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 08.06.2009 23:22 |
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ïîòîìó ÷òî 03 íè äëÿ ÷åãî íå ïîäõîëèò.. ìûñëè íà ðàññòîÿíèè ÷èòàþ, íî íå ïðî ïóëüòû.. |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2009 01:37 |
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Ìîñêâà
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íå â êîíÿ êîðì | |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2009 00:50 |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2009 20:27 |
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Ïåòåðáóðã Ìèêøåð
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Ææîòå Îäíîñëîæíûå ðåïëèêè VS ñìàéëû: êòî êîãî? |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 07.11.2012 06:26 |
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ïðîäàì ñâîé YAMAHA 02R v2 (ßïîíèÿ, CD "The Visualizer v2.88") - 42200 ðóá -- ïëàòà CD8-CS CASCADE äëÿ ñîåäèíåíèÿ äâóõ ïóëüòîâ YAMAHA 02R (åñòü 2 øò - CD8CS) - 2200 ðóá Çâîíèòå: 8-926-21O5542, Ìèõàèë (ìîáèëüíûé â ìîñêâå, êðóãëîñóòî÷íî.) (Åñëè áåðåò àâòîîòâåò÷èê, ïëèç, îñòàâüòå ñîîáùåíèå.) |
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Òåìà: Re: Yamaha 03d è Yamaha 02r
Âðåìÿ: 08.11.2012 03:33 |
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moscow mouse
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òûù çà 10 åñëè âñ¸ èñïðàâíî | |
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