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Òåìà: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2004 15:21 |
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I believe this one is getting underway this week  Acoustic DOBRO with arched flame maple back and solid Bubinga top Solid flame maple sides Set neck (5 piece flame maple and ebony) Bubinga headstock facing Fretboard of Maccassar Ebony Ivoroid binding around top, back, fretboard and headstock. Ivoroid knobs, strap buttons & trim, Lace magnetic pickup 24 3/4" scale length, 12 frets clear of the body. The body will be "contoured" in a unique way, so that the guitar is much thinner at the top than it is at the bottom  here is a (VERY ROUGH) sketch: (the guitar's final outlines will be much more symmetrical!) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 25.10.2004 17:13 |
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Stop hogging the crafters Mike, or we'll never get our guitars!  Nah, just joking . How many guitars have you had Shamray build for you now though? I know of the LP, the Futura and this one, are there any more? I like the specs on this one, acoustics built out of flame maple always look real sweet, I'm asuming you're going with a natural finish?It's cool how you seem to go for the slightly odd projects, it's not like you see a lot of Futuras or Dobros around... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.10.2004 02:12 |
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Actually i have had three more magnificent flame-maple-neck Shamrays, a 'strat', 'tele', and a 'Jazz Bass'. Plus of course P-00 (aka Bebb-II) and P-01, P-02, and P-03 bass prototypes built to my design (P-04 is currently underway now). You will be able to see all those basses at http://ShamrayBass.com when it opens to the public next month! Incidentally , i had to stand in line for this one A LONG TIME (and i wouldnt even have qualified for Andre's valuable time if i hadnt insisted on paying Shamray 'full retail' just like everybody else). The futura is actually being built by Dudnik 'in his spare time', so its not cutting into his extremely busy schedule - and i dont expect it to be completed any time soon. This Dobro will be either natural finish, or "maybe" dyed a very bright orange (i am on an orange kick right now) under the clear lacquer. Now that you mention it, I am leaning towards an ORANGE-BURST back and sides... i have owned more than 200 "conventional" guitars over the years, (well - a few of those were not so conventional, but the vast majority were Gibsons, Fenders, Rickenbackers, Gretsches, etc) so I try to make these guitars really "my own" in some small ways. Just wait till you see my upcoming Creation Series solidbody electric 12-string... 
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.10.2004 02:19 |
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oh, and (below) are the first shop pics of my new 'baby' : the rough-cut one piece top of solid bubinga, and the arched maple back (the back is about 50 years old, i got it from an old luthier's shop in Germany)... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 11.11.2004 11:20 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 23.11.2004 08:46 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2004 11:41 |
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spec update... the last two pics above are a board of ZEBRAWOOD, after Andre sawed and thicknessed it into a pair of GUITAR SIDES I was looking through my private stock the other day and noticed a board of Zebrawood that just "happened" to be exactly the right size to make sides for this guitar (just like the old board of flame maple we used for the neck just "happened" to be exactly the right size for this guitar's neck lams) so i thought "Why not?"... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2004 19:13 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2004 19:15 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 04.12.2004 19:38 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 06.12.2004 13:10 |
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Oh yeah, you guys can work fast, but only, if you need a guitar yourself... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 06.12.2004 14:03 |
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Andre IS making steady progress.. but i would hardly call 8 months "fast"... (my guitar has been in the build queue since MAY 1st.. i actually dont get any preferential treatment in that regard!)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 10.12.2004 00:24 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 10.12.2004 00:53 |
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Its not a funny camera angle - the guitar is "ergonomically designed" so that the body is much thinner on top than it is on the bottom (the patented Wedge-O-Matic® Dobro...) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2004 11:51 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 24.02.2005 00:25 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.02.2005 01:13 |
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UPDATE: decided to go with ALL NATURAL clear lacquer finish... top, back, sides, and neck
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.02.2005 03:21 |
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Stop giving people G.A.S Michael !!! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2005 21:14 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 19.05.2005 18:39 |
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Ìîñêâà ãèòàðà, êëàâèøè, òðóáà
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michael. what a brilliant looking neck. brilliant top and side woods also. i really like the shape too, i hadnt seen one before. kudos. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 21.05.2005 22:39 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 03.06.2005 14:35 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 03.06.2005 18:10 |
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Ìîñêâà ãèòàðà, êëàâèøè, òðóáà
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this is awesome. the back has come out so nicely too. when do you take it home? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 03.06.2005 23:42 |
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wait till you see the next batch of pics ( and it looks even better in person!) Im hoping i can take it home by the middle of june
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 07.06.2005 13:52 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 00:58 |
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how does this shape result in sound? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 15:13 |
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the 'shape' doesnt have much to do with the sound... But if you are referring to the 'great gaping hole' in the front, it will be filled with a RESONATOR CONE (a mechanical amplifer that is driven directly by the strings) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 22:14 |
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i mean the assymetric bredth | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 09.06.2005 23:58 |
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ahh... I specified that only for "ergonomics" (to make the guitar lay more comfortably on my body). I don't think the assymetrical body depth will have very much impact on the sound, as the dobro body is primarly acting as a semi-rigid (top is 10mm thick!) "enclosure" to react with the speaker cone of the resonator. But i guess we will find out.. after its built, i will take it out and compare it with 3 or four "commercial" dobros - for some scientific research! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 21.07.2005 16:20 |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 21.07.2005 17:03 |
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michael, may i ask about your headstock on this? Im fascinated to why it looks the way it does, did you design the shape? whats the story dude? | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 21.07.2005 22:10 |
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I've always wanted a guitar with that kind of headstock.. i first sketched a guitar (bass, actually) with that exact headstock shape back in 1978 Just a couple years ago, i found the pics of a similar "canoe-paddle" headstock on one of Orville Gibson's 1897 all-walnut creations, which reminded me again of my early idea - and last year, when i started sketching this Dobro, i knew immediately my design had found it's way home... |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 22.07.2005 21:49 |
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Leaving it natural really shows the quality of the workmanship and the wood. A great advert for the company. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 23.07.2005 00:30 |
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*You shouldn´t be in here Mats, leave immediately* -Ok, maybe you´re right! Bye! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 23.07.2005 23:04 |
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michael, how much would this one cost, if it were to be a NORMAL acoustical guitar? not dobro, but with a normal soundhole (without the rozet) cause i LOVE the woods, but not the dobro-element. i am not really into slideguitar, and whatever I do with slide, i play on my strats, which goes quite fine. so: how much 
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 23.07.2005 23:22 |
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The 'same guitar', except built as a radical arch-backed flat-top (instead of a Dobro) would cost something in the neighbourhood of $3000 if built by us... so we don't plan to build many acoustic guitars! Acoustics require so much special custom tooling, (bending jigs, etc) its not profitable to make them unless you set up a full-blown acoustic shop making a very limited set of models full time. Thats why its not uncommon to pay $5,000-10,000+ for a real custom acoustic in America... basically its one guy taking six to nine months out of his life to build it! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 23.07.2005 23:59 |
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Hi Michael! I think that the price helps in keeping it more special if you own one! I bet you can't wait to add this one to your collection. It's will be a beauty for sure. | |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 24.07.2005 00:40 |
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3000 euro's for a handbuild acoustical guitar....thats not much really...but still...its SO much work!! SO much work.... but if i ever want one like this (but just like a normal acoustic, no arched back/top, just like a normal flamengo, but with these woods) I sure as hell will consider you guys (but first; a les paul!!) this thing is just pure eye-candy. what can I say? |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.07.2005 17:28 |
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Hehe, Crazy! It looks unbelievable good even with masking tape on Michael! Can you educate me on the difference between the conevariations that are available for resonators? (Please!) |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.07.2005 20:45 |
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There are two basic kinds of resonator guitar: 1) National "biscuit" bridge - the bridge is attached directly to the center of the cone (convex cone) 2) Dobro "spider" bridge - the bridge is attached to a metal "spider" which contacts the cone on the edges. (concave cone, like a loudspeaker) As you can imagine, they each have their own distinct sound! there also is a sort of a Hybrid called a TRICONE, but its really three little 'biscuit' cones that are connected with a "t-bridge" that straddles them. Plenty of Good info can be found at the links below: NATIONAL DOBRO |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.07.2005 20:53 |
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You can find cheap resonators on Ebay for instance. What cones do they usually have? I have heard that you hav eto swap them to get "the real feeling". |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.07.2005 21:05 |
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the biscuit bridge ones are cheaper ( less parts!) but i have seen brand-new Korean resonators of both kinds going for under $200 on ebay. |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 26.07.2005 21:47 |
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OK! Mojo as we say Thanks for the lesson Michael! |
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Òåìà: Re: CS 0069 - Shamray Custom Shop "DOBRO" for Michael Walker (Moscow, Russia)
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2005 18:28 |
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