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Òåìà: Ïîñòàâèë 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê íà ñòðàò...
Âðåìÿ: 27.05.2010 10:41 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Fender Stratocaster, Yamaha SA, Martin  
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 îáùåì, åñòü ó ìåíÿ ñòàðûé ÿïîíñêèé ñòðàò (3 ñèíãëà, êîïèÿ Ôåíäåðà 70-õ ãã.), íà êîòîðîì âñþ æèçíü ñòîÿë õëèïêèé ðîäíîé 3-ïîçèöèîííûé ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü. Âîëåâûì ðåøåíèåì ÿ åãî â÷åðà ïîìåíÿë íà ôåíäåðîâñêèé 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê. Ðàñïàéêó ñäåëàë àêêóðàòíî ïî ñõåìå + ñäåëàë òàê, ÷òîáû íèæíèé òîí îòâå÷àë åùå è çà áðèäæåâûé çâó÷îê.  èòîãå âñå ðàáîòàåò îê (ðåäêèé ñëó÷àé, êîãäà ÿ óâåðåí â ðàñïàéêå íà 99%), äàò÷èêè ïåðåêëþ÷àþòñÿ êàê íàäî (n-nm-m-mb-b), íî! âî âòîðîì è 4-ì ïîëîæåíèÿõ ñîõðàíèëñÿ "ôèðìåííûé" ñèíãëîâûé ôîí... Íå íàâîäêè, íå ðàäèî, à èìåííî ÷åñòíûé ôîí ëþáîãî îáû÷íîãî ñèíãëà, õîòÿ, ïî èäåå áûòü åãî íå äîëæíî... Ïîñëå äîëãèõ ðàçäóìèé ÿ ïðèøåë ê ìûñëè, ÷òî äåëî â ñðåäíåì äàò÷èêå - íå óâåðåí, ÷òî â 80-õ ÿïîíöû "ìîòàëè" åãî â äðóãóþ ñòîðîíó äëÿ õàì-êýíñåëà... Ïðàâ ëè ÿ? Âîò, ÷òî íàøåë â Âèêèïåäèè íà ýòó òåìó: The three pickups were originally identical in their construction. With the rising popularity of using pickups in combination, Fender introduced a new feature in 1977 coinciding with the standard 5-position switch; a reverse-wound, reverse-polarity middle pickup. As the desorry_but_any_script_is_not_allowedion implies, the magnetic polarity of this pickup is opposite the other two, as is the direction of the wire winding around the bobbin. This provides a hum-canceling effect (removing hum induced by poorly shielded, medium to high output AC devices) in positions 2 and 4 on the selector switch. This principle had been known for many years beforehand, being applied in the form of Gibson's humbucking pickup and Fender's own split-coil pickup used on the Precision Bass. Today, virtually all Fender instruments with more than one single-coil pickup (most notably the Stratocaster, Telecaster and Jazz Bass) are wired in such a manner as to provide a hum-canceling combination of pickups. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñòàâèë 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê íà ñòðàò...
Âðåìÿ: 27.05.2010 12:11 |
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Ïðàãà ãèòàðà
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âîáùå åñòü òàêàÿ òåìà. Âèäåë íà ñòàðûõ ðîàäñòàðàõ âñå 3 ñèíãëà îäíîèì¸ííûìè ïîëþñàìè ìàãíèòîâ êâåðõó ñòîÿò. Ïðîâåðü. Åñëè òàê, òî ýòî âèíòàæ ñõåìà ñ òð¸õïîçèöèîííèêîì, êîòîðàÿ íå ðàñ÷èòàíà íà øóìîïîäàâëåíèå. Ìåíÿé òîãäà äàò÷èêè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñòàâèë 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê íà ñòðàò...
Âðåìÿ: 27.05.2010 12:20 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Fender Stratocaster, Yamaha SA, Martin
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À êàê ïðîâåðèòü? Òåñòåðîì? Ìåíÿòü, ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, æàëêî - óæ áîëüíî çâó÷àò õîðîøî  Ê ñëîâó, â áðèäæå óæå ñòîèò êàêîé-òî ñòýê (2 êàòóøêè, îäíà íàä äðóãîé, áåç îïîçíàâàòåëüíûõ çíàêîâ, íî ïðåäûäóùèé õîçÿèí ãîâîðèë, ÷òî Äèìàðöèÿ) ñ 4 ïðîâîäàìè: êðàñíûé - çåìëÿ, ãîëóáîé - ãîðÿ÷èé è äâà êîðîòêèõ ÷åðíûõ, ñïàÿííûõ âìåñòå. Íèêòî íå çíàåò, ÷òî ýòî ìîæåò áûòü çà ìîäåëü? È êàê ìîæíî ðàñïàÿòü êàòóøêè íà 5-ïîçèöèîííèê? Ñïàñèáî, äðóãè!
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñòàâèë 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê íà ñòðàò...
Âðåìÿ: 27.05.2010 14:28 |
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Ìèíñê
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Wah-Wah , ìäà, ñàì íåäàâíî ñòîëêíóëñÿ ñ òàêîé òðàáëîé.  èòîãå ïîñòàâèë ÷åëó ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü ôàçû ñðåäíåãî äàò÷èêà. Òâîé ñòåê òî÷íî íå Äèìàðçèî - íå òåõ öâåòîâ ïðîâîäà... Íó ëèáî ïåðåïàèâàëè. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñòàâèë 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê íà ñòðàò...
Âðåìÿ: 27.05.2010 14:45 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Fender Stratocaster, Yamaha SA, Martin
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> èòîãå ïîñòàâèë ÷åëó ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü ôàçû ñðåäíåãî äàò÷èêà. > à êàê ýòî ñäåëàòü? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñòàâèë 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê íà ñòðàò...
Âðåìÿ: 27.05.2010 20:22 |
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Ïåðìü Ãèòàðæåöå è Áàñöå 
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è åù¸ ñòýê íå ìîæåò ñ ñèíãëîì äàâàòü øóìîïîäàâëåíèå, â ñòýêå óæå 2 êàòóøêè â ïðîòèâîôàçå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñòàâèë 5-òè ïîçèöèîííèê íà ñòðàò...
Âðåìÿ: 28.05.2010 10:45 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Fender Stratocaster, Yamaha SA, Martin
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>è åù¸ ñòýê íå ìîæåò ñ ñèíãëîì äàâàòü øóìîïîäàâëåíèå, â ñòýêå óæå 2 êàòóøêè â ïðîòèâîôàçå. ýòî ñàìî ñîáîé Íî è â ïîëîæåíèè neck+middle ñèíãëîâûé ôîí âñå ðàâíî ñîõðàíÿåòñÿ...  îáùåì, ÿ ðåøèë îñòàâèòü âñå êàê åñòü - çâóê óñòðàèâàåò, à ôîí íå êðèòè÷íûé. 
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