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Àâòîð Òåìà: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2006 23:21 



Ìîæåòå ïîñîâåòîâàòü õîðîøèå ãðóïû/ïåñíè â åòîì ñòèëå...÷òî-òî, ÷òî ìîæåò ïîíðàâèòüñÿ, åñëè î÷åíü íðàâèòüñÿ The Mars Volta.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2006 23:26 



ôó, áÿêà êàêàÿ...
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 18.08.2006 23:52 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Lychko ALB-8

×åñòíî, The Mars Volta íå ñëûøàë.. )) Ñòûäíî, èáî àðòîì è ïðîãîì óâëåêàþñü äàâíî è ñåðü¸çíî. Ìîæåò äàé äðóãèå îðèåíòèðû.
À ìîæåøü çàéòèòü íà www.forum.progmusic.ru - ïðîñòî ïîáðîäèòü, ïî÷èòàòü, ÷òî ëþäè ïèøóò. Ïîëåçíî è ïîçíàâàòåëüíî.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2006 00:02 



Yngwar, òóò íå÷åãî ñòûäèòüñÿ, ïîâåðü ìíå, òû íè÷åãî íå ïîòåðÿë)))
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2006 00:09 



Yngwar, íàïèøè, ÷òî èç ïðîãðåññèâíîãî ðîêà ñëóøàåøü??

Ìíîãîóâàæàåìûé ñóäàðü Êèëîãåðö, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ÿ íå íàõîæó âàøå èíäèâèäóàëüíîå ìíåíèå èìåþùèì äëÿ ìåíÿ êàêóþ-ëèáî èíòåëëåêòóàëüíóþ öåííîñòü, ïîñåìó ñìåþ ïðîñèòü âàñ íå ñìóùàòü ìåíÿ è ìîèõ ñîáåñåäíèêîâ ñâîèì ïðèñóòñòâèåì.

moder: :lol:

Íå ðóãàéòåñü, â îáùåì ))))
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2006 01:25 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Lychko ALB-8

>> Yngwar, íàïèøè, ÷òî èç ïðîãðåññèâíîãî ðîêà ñëóøàåøü??
Ý-ý, õì-ì.. ìíîãî ÷åãî =)
Ñàìûå ôàâîðèòû: Camel, Caravan, King Crimson, Greenslade, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator, Marillion, Magma, Gong, Asia Minor, Anglagard, Anekdoten, Kvazar...
Ò.å. áîëüøèíñòâî èç 70-õ - ýòî áðèòàíñêèé (â ò.÷. êåíòåðáåðè) è ôðàíöóçñêèé àðò. È î÷åíü ëþáëþ øâåäñêèé àðò 90-õ (3 ïîñëåäíèå êîìàíäû ê íåìó îòíîñÿòñÿ). Recomendóþ!! )
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 19.08.2006 01:37 



:lol: 2moder: ææîøü, ñöóêî
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 25.08.2006 00:01 



Äëÿ ëþáèòåëåé Progressive Rock î÷åíü ðåêîìåíäóþ àëüáîì An Absence Of Empathy ñ âîêàëîì Ñåáàñòüÿíà Áàõà (ex-Skid Row) Ñèëüíåéøàÿ âåùü!!!
Ïîñëóøàòü ñýìïëû ìîæíî çäåñü http://www.frameshift2.com/music.php
Êîíå÷íî ýòè îòðûâêè íå â ïîëíîé ìåðå îòðàæàþò âñþ ïîëíîòó çâó÷àíèÿ, â ïîëíîé âåðñèè åñòü áîëåå óäà÷íûå ìîìåíòû äëÿ âûðàæåíèÿ ñóòè êàæäîé êîìïîçèöèè.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.08.2006 19:54 
PurpleLand
Fender Strat, Fender Precision Bass

Ïðîã-ýòî ëàæà! ïîáåäà áóäåò íàøà!! :metal:
Long Live Rock-n-Roll!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 12:06 



Ritchie
Îñòðîóìíî,á\\ï.

Èç ïðîãà è àðòà (ïîìèìî ïåðå÷èñëåííîãî Yngwar
-îì) âñïîìèíàþòñÿ òàêèå âåùè êàê Soft Mashine,Genesis,Uriah Heep,Gryphon.
Î÷åíü ðåêîìåíäóþ Comus (ýòî ñêîðåå ýéñèä ôîëê (òîæå 70õ))
Tea and Symphony (íó ýòî íå ïðîã ðîê,íî âåñüìà áëèçêèé ê íåìó ïñèõîäåë â çàâÿçêå ñ ôîëêîì)
Âîîáùå ãðóïï ïîëíî.ß ìîãó ïîñîâåòîâàòü(åñëè êîìó íàäî) ïàðî÷êó ðåñóðñîâ,îòêóäà ìîæíî ïîä÷åðïíóòü ïîëåçíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 12:50 
PurpleLand
Fender Strat, Fender Precision Bass

Ìàìàé, Uriah Heep , Genesis -ïðîã ??? :eek:




ìäà....
Long Live Rock-n-Roll!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 13:07 



Ritchie, òû ëîõ

Genesis - îäíà èç ïÿòè ãëàâíûõ àðò-ðîêîâûõ ãðóïï
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 16:15 



Ritchie,íåò áëèí,ýòî Canterbury :D
C ðàäîñòüþ âûñëóøàþ âàøó òðàêòîâêó.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 16:55 
PurpleLand
Fender Strat, Fender Precision Bass

KillOHertz, Ýòî àðò ! Èíèêàê íå ïðîã!!! :idea2:
Long Live Rock-n-Roll!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 16:59 
PurpleLand
Fender Strat, Fender Precision Bass

KillOHertz, Ìíå ëè íå çíàòü êòî òàêèå Genesis !
è ïîïðîøó áåç àÇêîðáëåíèé :super:
Long Live Rock-n-Roll!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 17:25 
Côte d’Ivoi
Jazz My Dick

Îïà.. êàê èíòåðåñíî. Ãîñïîäà, à King Crimson âû êóäà îòíåñåòå - ê àðòó èëè æå ê ïðîãó ??
- Thank you very many
- Without problem
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 17:27 
Côte d’Ivoi
Jazz My Dick

È âîîáùå, óâåðåíû ëè âû, ÷òî âñåãäà ñìîæåòå ïðîâåñòè ÷åòêóþ ãðàíèöó ìåæäó àðòîì è ïðîãîì ?
- Thank you very many
- Without problem
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 18:10 
PurpleLand
Fender Strat, Fender Precision Bass

Ôñ¸-òàêè "ñòàðûå" ãðóïïû áûëè ðîäîíà÷àëüíèêàìè È ýòî áåÇ îáñóæäåíèé! â òîé ìóçûêå áûëà ÈñÊðÀ :mol:
à åñëè áðàòü çà ïðîã êàêîé-íåäü Äðèìòßòð- ýò âààïñ÷Å ëàæà!
Long Live Rock-n-Roll!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 18:12 



Jack Bruce,Ritchie,ñóùåñòâóåò ìíîãî ìíåíèé ñ÷èòàòü ëè àðò-ðîê âñåãî ëèøü îäíèì èç îòâåòâëåíèé progressive rock,ëèáî æå àðò-ðîê áîëåå îáúåìëþùàÿ ìóçûêàëüíàÿ åäèíèöà.
Òàê èëè èíà÷å,Ritchie,åñëè âû âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷òåòå ìîé ïîñò ñî ñïèñêîì ãðóïï,òî çàìåòèòå,÷òî ÿ íàïèñàë "ïðîã è àðò".Õîòÿ â ñïèñêå ïðèâåë òåõ æå Soft Mashine,êîè ÿâëÿþòñÿ ÿðêèìè ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿìè ñòèëÿ Canterbury.Ýòî ó âàñ ïî÷åìó òî íå âûçâàëî íèêàêèõ âîïðîñîâ :)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 18:41 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Lychko ALB-8

Íó âû çàìóòèëè!!! Ìåæäó àðòîì è ïðîãîì, äåéñòâèòåëüíî, ïðîçðà÷íàÿ ãðàíü. Canterbury - ýòî ïðîñòî îòäåëüíàÿ øêîëà àðòà (ïðîãà, êîìó óãîäíî òàê), ò.å. ÝÒÎ ÒÎÆÅ ÀÐÒ-ÐÎÊ! :) Genesis - 100% àðò. Uriah Heep âñ¸ æå ÷åãî-òî äî àðòà íå õâàòàåò. Çäîðîâî, êðàñèâî... íî íå àðò.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.08.2006 19:33 
PurpleLand
Fender Strat, Fender Precision Bass

Ìàìàé, ó âàñ î÷åíü ñòðàøíûé àâàòàð.....
ÿ áîþñü.....
Long Live Rock-n-Roll!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 10:34 



Êàñàòåëüíî Ìàðñ Âîëüòû - ñàì îáàëäåë,òàêàÿ äåðçêàÿ ìóçûêà...Èç ìîäåðí-ïðîãà ïîðåêîìåíäîâàë áû åùå Opeth, Tool, Riverside, Porcupine Tree, Godspeed You Black Emperor,Indukti, The Amber Light,Paatos.
Ïðîã/àðò - 99% òîãî,÷òî ÿ ñëóøàþ(ïîñìîòðèòå íà íèê! :fan: ).

Èç êëàññèê-ïðîãà - Genesis, King Crimson, Camel, Caravan, Pink Floyd, Kaipa, Gnidrolog, Locanda delle Fate,Pfm, Le Orme, Celeste(èòàë-ïðîã âàùå êëàññ,ïîêà íå âñòðå÷àë ïëîõèõ êîìàíä),Jethro Tull,Eloy,Curved Air etc.Rush è Yes íå îñîáî ëþáëþ,ELP,VDGG è Gentle Giant ñëóøàþ,íî íå öåïëÿåò.

Èç íåî-ïðîãà - Marillion, Collage, Red Sand, Shadowland, Pendragon, NYL(ðóññêèå!),Pallas, Clepsydra etc

Ïðîã-ìåòàë ïî÷òè íå ñëóøàþ,î÷åíü ïðåäñêàçóåìûé â ñâîåì áîëüøèíñòâå,ïî ñòàðîé ïàìÿòè âòûêàþ Äðàì Òåàòð è Ýêñòðîâåðò - èõ ðóññêèé àíàëîã.

Èç íüþ-ñèôîíèê - Discipline, The Watch, Anekdoten, Anglagard, Sinkadus, Aufklarung, Magenta, Valinor's Tree, Mirage etc.Spock's Beard è Flower Kings íå ëþáëþ.

Êñòàòè äà,òîæå ðåêîìåíäóþ forum.progmusic.ru - Yngwar'à îòòóäà çíàþ :idea2: (ÿ òàì çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí êàê Èãîðü)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 10:34 



Êàñàòåëüíî Ìàðñ Âîëüòû - ñàì îáàëäåë,òàêàÿ äåðçêàÿ ìóçûêà...Èç ìîäåðí-ïðîãà ïîðåêîìåíäîâàë áû åùå Opeth, Tool, Riverside, Porcupine Tree, Godspeed You Black Emperor,Indukti, The Amber Light,Paatos.
Ïðîã/àðò - 99% òîãî,÷òî ÿ ñëóøàþ(ïîñìîòðèòå íà íèê! :fan: ).

Èç êëàññèê-ïðîãà - Genesis, King Crimson, Camel, Caravan, Pink Floyd, Kaipa, Gnidrolog, Locanda delle Fate,Pfm, Le Orme, Celeste(èòàë-ïðîã âàùå êëàññ,ïîêà íå âñòðå÷àë ïëîõèõ êîìàíä),Jethro Tull,Eloy,Curved Air etc.Rush è Yes íå îñîáî ëþáëþ,ELP,VDGG è Gentle Giant ñëóøàþ,íî íå öåïëÿåò.

Èç íåî-ïðîãà - Marillion, Collage, Red Sand, Shadowland, Pendragon, NYL(ðóññêèå!),Pallas, Clepsydra etc

Ïðîã-ìåòàë ïî÷òè íå ñëóøàþ,î÷åíü ïðåäñêàçóåìûé â ñâîåì áîëüøèíñòâå,ïî ñòàðîé ïàìÿòè âòûêàþ Äðàì Òåàòð è Ýêñòðîâåðò - èõ ðóññêèé àíàëîã.

Èç íüþ-ñèôîíèê - Discipline, The Watch, Anekdoten, Anglagard, Sinkadus, Aufklarung, Magenta, Valinor's Tree, Mirage etc.Spock's Beard è Flower Kings íå ëþáëþ.

Êñòàòè äà,òîæå ðåêîìåíäóþ forum.progmusic.ru - Yngwar'à îòòóäà çíàþ :idea2: (ÿ òàì çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí êàê Èãîðü)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 12:16 



ìíå Ìàðñ Âîëüòà î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëèñü. ìåñòàìè óëàâëèâàåòñÿ ÿâíîå âëèÿíèå Êèíã Êðèìçîí. êàê ñòàðîìó ïðîã ðîêåðó ðàäîñòíî, ÷òî åñòü ìîëîäûå ïàöàíû, êîòîðûå ïîääåðæèâàþò âèíòàæíûå ïðîã ðîêîâûå òðàäèöèè. êàðî÷è, ïðîã-ðîê ðóëèò ôîðåâà ! ïàïñó ôôòîïêó - äàåøü ïðîã ðîê !
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 12:19 



è åñëè âû ó ìåíÿ ïðîñèòå ÷òî òàêîå ïðîã ðîê. ÿ âàì ñêàæó îäíîçíà÷íî, ÷òî ýòî òîíêàÿ, óìíàÿ, èíòåëëåãåíòíàÿ ìóçûêà â êîòîðîé ìàññà íüàíñîâ è êîòîðóþ èíòåðåñíî ñëóøàòü. è òàêæå íåìàëîâàæíî (õîòÿ ÿ âîáùåì òî è íå ðàñèñò) ÷òî ïðîã ðîê âñå òàêè äåðæèòñÿ íà êëàññè÷åñêîé "áåëîé" åâðîïåéñêîé ìóçûêàëüíîé êóëüòóðå.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 12:25 



÷óâàêè, ïðîã ðîê - ýòî ðåàëüíàÿ ìóçûêà !
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 14:15 



Ê óæå ïåðå÷èñëåííûì ãðóïïàì äîáàâëþ Egg, COLOSSEUM.
Íåâîîáðàçèìî ïðîãðåññèâåí è Òåððè Ðàéëè. ×åãî ñòîèò õîòÿ áû åãî 40-ìèíóòíûé "ìèíèìàëèçì" In C...

À óòâåðæäåíèå
"ïðîã ðîê âñå òàêè äåðæèòñÿ íà êëàññè÷åñêîé "áåëîé" åâðîïåéñêîé ìóçûêàëüíîé êóëüòóðå." - ñïîðíî.

 ïðîãðåññèâå, õîòÿ áû íà ïðèìåðå Êåíòåðáåðèéöåâ, ïðîñëåæèâàåòñÿ ïðÿìîå âëèÿíèå è ïðîñëóøèâàåòñÿ ÿâíàÿ ñîñòàâëÿþùàÿ äæàçà (ñêîðåå âñåãî áèáîïà, êàê íàèáîëåå ñëîæíîãî è ýëèòàðíîãî â ïëàíå âîñïðèÿòèÿ). Äà è ïðî Êèòà Ýìåðñîíà ãîâîðèëè, ÷òî ó íåãî ê ìóçûêå äæàçîâûé ïîäõîä.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 15:29 



òû ïðàâ, ÷óâàê. ñ òåáÿ áóòûëêà.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2006 23:43 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Lychko ALB-8

2 Prog-jester: õå, ò¸çêà)), ÿ ïî ïàøïîðòó òîæå Èãîðü :)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.09.2006 12:38 
Óñèïóñè
ÍÓ!!! ÀÊÀÃ!!!

×åñíî ãîâîðÿ,äàâíî óø ïåðåñòàë äåëèòü ìóçûêó íà ñòèëè....íó åñè òîêà îñíîâíûå íàïðàâëåíèÿ...íàõ ýò âàùå íàäî òà?
"...÷¸ðíàÿ èêðà è ã0âíî ìàæóòñÿ íà õëåá îäèíàêîâî."(ñ) ïðîôåññîð Âèøíåâñêèé
"ß ëþáëþ ïèòü è áûòü ïîñòîÿííî ïüÿíûì..." (ñ) Î.Îñáîðí.
"ß íå öåëêîâûé, ÷òîáû âñåì íðàâèòüñÿ" (ñ) Â. Ìàÿêîâñêèé
"Òàêèì ëþäÿì ìåñòî - ïîä çåìë¸é!" (ñ) Ð. Êàäûðîâ
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.09.2006 15:03 



2 Prog-jester: õå, ò¸çêà)), ÿ ïî ïàøïîðòó òîæå Èãîðü

ãû,à âèäèøü,âûäåëûâàåìñÿ - îäèí Prog-Jester,äðóãîé Yngwar... :)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.09.2006 15:10 



÷óâàêè, ïðîã ðîê - ýòî ðåàëüíàÿ ìóçûêà !

Çàëàòûå ñëîâà!!!Ðåñïåêò è óâàæóõà!!! :super:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 29.09.2006 16:30 
Óñèïóñè
ÍÓ!!! ÀÊÀÃ!!!

ß,êñòàòå,ïî ïàøïîðòó,òîæ Èãîðü :)
"...÷¸ðíàÿ èêðà è ã0âíî ìàæóòñÿ íà õëåá îäèíàêîâî."(ñ) ïðîôåññîð Âèøíåâñêèé
"ß ëþáëþ ïèòü è áûòü ïîñòîÿííî ïüÿíûì..." (ñ) Î.Îñáîðí.
"ß íå öåëêîâûé, ÷òîáû âñåì íðàâèòüñÿ" (ñ) Â. Ìàÿêîâñêèé
"Òàêèì ëþäÿì ìåñòî - ïîä çåìë¸é!" (ñ) Ð. Êàäûðîâ
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 30.09.2006 00:54 



Ïî ñàáæó
ìîãó ïîñîâåòîâàòü Dream Theater :fan:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 30.09.2006 00:57 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
drums & percussion

Emperor ìîäåðí-ïðîã.. :what:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 30.09.2006 03:13 
Moscow
guitar - Gibson SG, Ibanez s470, Gibson LP Custom

Ïðîã ñ ïñèõî+åùå õç ÷åãî, íî äîâîëüíî èíòåðåñíî (ìíå çäîðîâî ïîíðàâèëîñü) High Tide
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 01.10.2006 10:52 



2 Kabal - Godspeed you Black Emperor - íå áëýêóøíûé Emperor/Êàíåøà ïðîã,êàê è áîëüøèíñòâî ïîñò-ðîêà,êîòîðûé ëè÷íî ìíå íðàâèòñÿ äî ñìåðòè!!!È ïîñëå,âèäèìî ,òîæå... :super:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 01.10.2006 21:15 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
drums & percussion

Îé, ñîððè, ÿ íå âíèìàòåëåí)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 02.10.2006 05:13 



Äëÿ ëþáèòåëåé èíñòðóìåíòàëüíîãî ïðîãà è ïðîñòî õîðîøåé ìóçûêè çàâòðà (âòîðíèê, 3 îêòÿáðÿ) áîëüøîå ñîëüíîå âûñòóïëåíèå Disen Gage â FM-Club'e, ÷òî íà Òàãàíêå (Çåìëÿíîé Âàë, 60/28). Íà÷àëî â 21:00. Îáèëå÷èâàíèå ïî 200 ðý ïðÿì íà âõîäå.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 02.10.2006 23:30 



ÂÍÈÌÀÍÈÅ!
Îáúÿâëåííûé ðàíåå íà 3 îêòÿáðÿ êîíöåðò ãðóïïû DISEN GAGE â FM-Club'e ïî-òåõíè÷åñêèì (êàê-áû ãëóïî ýòà îòìàçêà íå çâó÷àëà) ïðè÷èíàì íå ñîñòîèòñÿ!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 03.10.2006 00:06 
Îäèíöîâî
Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà

Äà, ïóòàíèöà òóò ó âàñ â ïðîãå è àðòå. Âñå æå ÿ áû ðàçäåëèë äàííûå ïîíÿòèÿ. Àðò-ðîê óòâåðäèëñÿ êàê ñòèëü è êàê òåðìèí ðàíüøå ïðîãðåññèâ-ðîêà. ß äóìàþ, ðàçíèöà ìåæäó íèìè òàêàÿ: ó àðò-ðîêà íåò ãðàíèö â ìóçûêå, ñàì ñòèëü âûõîäèò çà ðàìêè ìóçûêè, î÷åíü ÷àñòî àðò-ðîêåðû óñòðàèâàëè ïðåäñòàâëåíèå òåàòðàëèçîâàííîå íà ñâîèõ êîíöåðòàõ. ×àñòîå èñïîëüçîâàíèå íåðîêîâûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ, î÷åíü áîëüøîå çíà÷åíèå ïðèäàåòñÿ àðàíæèðîâêå, òåêñòó, êîíöåïöèè.
Ïðîãðåññèâ-ðîê äåëàåò óïîð íà äðóãîå.  ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü, íà ñëîæíîñòü, òåõíè÷åñêóþ è êîìïîçèöèîííóþ. Òî åñòü ìóçûêà ðàäè ìóçûêè, à íå ðàäè èäåè. Óñëîæíåííîñòü, ïåðåãðóæåííîñòü ðèôôàìè, ðàçìåðàìè, òåõíè÷åñêèå íàâîðîòû - âîò âàì ïðîã-êîìïîçèöèÿ.
Íó è ñîîòâåòñâåííî ãðóïïû: êèòû àðò-ðîêà - Pink Floyd, Rush (íàçâàòü èõ ïðîãîì ÿçûê íå ïîâåðíåòñÿ), îòöû ïðîãà - Dream Theatre, Opeth.
Ê ñëîâó Uriah Heep íå áûëè íè àðòåðàìè, íè ïðîããåðàìè. Old School Hard Rock.
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear your scream
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 03.10.2006 01:44 



Dream Theater ðóëèò!!! Èäåàëüíîå ñî÷åòàíèå êîìïîçèòîðñêîãî è òåõíè÷åñêîãî ìàñòåðñòâà.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 03.10.2006 02:05 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
drums & percussion

Îñîáåííî åñëè ó÷åñòü, ÷òî èäåàëîâ íå ñóùåñòâóåò âîâñå, â ìóçûêå òåì áîëåå :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 03.10.2006 17:18 



Disen Gage - :fan: Õîðîøàÿ âåùü!Æàëü,ïî-ëþáîìó íå ïîïàë áû,ñëèøêîì äàëåê ÿ îò Ìîñêâû...
Íàñ÷åò äåôèíèöèè ïðîãà ñ àðòîì - ÷åñòíî,ìíå âñå ðàâíî.ß çàìåòèë,÷òî àðòîì íàçûâàþò (â îñíîâíîì,â ïîñò-ÑÑÑÐ) âåñü êëàññè÷åñêèé,õîðîøî èçâåñòíûé ïðîã âðîäå Ôëîéäîâ,Äæåíåçèñ,Éåñ,Êðèìçîíà èòä.ß ïðåäïî÷èòàþ òåðìèí "ïðîã" êàê áîëåå øèðîêèé è îõâàòûâàþùèé ïî÷òè âåñü ñïåêòð ðàçíîîáðàçèÿ ýòîé Ìóçûêè - îò äèêîãî àíòèìóçûêàëüíîãî àâàíãàðäà äî ôàêòè÷åñêè òàíöåâàëüíîãî ýëåêòðîíèê-ïðîãà(Òàíæåðèí Äðèì,Êðàôòâåðê è ò.ä.)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 03.10.2006 18:09 



Prog-jester

Êñòàòè, Disen Gage æèâü¸ì - ïðîñòî óë¸ò. Ïëàñòèíêà èõ äîâîëüíî âÿëàÿ îêàçàëàñü, èìõî. ß îæèäàë áîëüøåãî, õîòÿ è îíà, íåñîìíåííî î÷åíü êðóòà.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 05.10.2006 19:09 



Ýðêþëü,ãäå ýòî ÷óäî äîñòàòü?
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 11.10.2006 19:13 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Lychko ALB-8

Prog-Jester: èíòåðåñíî óñëûøàòü òâî¸ ìíåíèå ïî ïîâîäó òåìêè, óæå íåìíîãî çàáûòîé íà ôîðóìå http://www.musicforums.ru/rockmusic/view.php?bn=mfor_rockmusic&key=1150132501&pattern=camel#N1152643419
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.10.2006 13:50 



Ñòðàííî, ÷òî "Dream òåàòð" íåêîòîðûå èäåàëèçèðóþò êàê ïðîã - ïî ìíå òàê îíè âûäîõëèñü .. åñòü ãðóïïû ÏÎÕëåñ÷å! ïðè÷åì - ÃÎÐÀÇÄÎ!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.10.2006 13:58 



ñòðàííî, ÷òî åñòü ëþäè, êîòîðûå èäåàëèçèðóþò ÄðèìÒåàòð ñ ïðîãîì. Ïî ìíå òàê îíè âûäîõëèñü êàê ñóøåíûå îáåçüÿíû. 100% åñòü ãðóïïû ïîõëåñ÷å íà ïîðÿäîê.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2006 13:40 



Ñîãëàñåí ñ ïðåäûäóùèì îðàòîðîì.

Yngwar,Âåðáëþäû - òðåòüÿ ëþáèìàÿ êîìàíäà èç êëàññèêè ïîñëå Äæåíåçèñ è Êðèìçîíîâ. ñâîå âðåìÿ ñòàë ñëóøàòü ÎÐÅÒÍ òîêà èç-çà òîãî,÷òî Àêåðôåëüäòó íðàâèòñÿ Êýìýë(òåïåðü è áåç ýòîé ïðè÷èíû ñëóøàþ ;-) )
Ëþáèìûé - A Nod and A Wink.Ýòî ñîâåðøåíñòâî.Ïðîñòî íåò ÍÈ ÎÄÍÎÉ íîòû ìèìî êàññû,ïëþñ îí âñòàâëÿåò ýìîöèîíàëüíî,â òî âðåìÿ,êàê Moonmadness è Mirage(ëþáèìûå èç ðàííåãî) ñîäåðæàò íåìíîãî ýìîöèé,à ïîòîìó äëÿ ìåíÿ èäóò íà 2ì ìåñòå.Ñèòóàöèÿ ñ ïîñëåäíèì Êýìýëîâñêèì ìíå íàïîìèíàåò ñèòóàöèþ ñ ïîñëåäíèì Le Orme "L'Infinito" - òîæå,íà ìîé âçãëÿä,èõ ëó÷øèé...Òàêèå ãðóïïû íå ëîøàòñÿ à òîëüêî ïðîãðåññèðóþò!!!
Ñòðàííî,íî íàèìåíåå èíòåðåñíûå (ÈÌÕÎ) àëüáîìû èìåþò ÒÀÊÈÅ èíñòðóìåíòàëêè â ñåáå...( "I Can see..." - Survival è Ice; "Rajaz" - Sahara è 3 Wishes).
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2006 13:45 



Ñîãëàñåí ñ ïðåäûäóùèì îðàòîðîì.

Yngwar,Âåðáëþäû - òðåòüÿ ëþáèìàÿ êîìàíäà èç êëàññèêè ïîñëå Äæåíåçèñ è Êðèìçîíîâ. ñâîå âðåìÿ ñòàë ñëóøàòü ÎÐÅÒÍ òîêà èç-çà òîãî,÷òî Àêåðôåëüäòó íðàâèòñÿ Êýìýë(òåïåðü è áåç ýòîé ïðè÷èíû ñëóøàþ ;-) )
Ëþáèìûé - A Nod and A Wink.Ýòî ñîâåðøåíñòâî.Ïðîñòî íåò ÍÈ ÎÄÍÎÉ íîòû ìèìî êàññû,ïëþñ îí âñòàâëÿåò ýìîöèîíàëüíî,â òî âðåìÿ,êàê Moonmadness è Mirage(ëþáèìûå èç ðàííåãî...è äåáþò õîðîø òîæå) ñîäåðæàò íåìíîãî ýìîöèé,à ïîòîìó äëÿ ìåíÿ èäóò íà 2ì ìåñòå.Ñèòóàöèÿ ñ ïîñëåäíèì Êýìýëîâñêèì ìíå íàïîìèíàåò ñèòóàöèþ ñ ïîñëåäíèì Le Orme "L'Infinito" - òîæå,íà ìîé âçãëÿä,èõ ëó÷øèé...Òàêèå ãðóïïû íå ëîøàòñÿ à òîëüêî ïðîãðåññèðóþò!!!

Ñòðàííî,íî íàèìåíåå èíòåðåñíûå (ÈÌÕÎ) àëüáîìû èìåþò ÒÀÊÈÅ èíñòðóìåíòàëêè â ñåáå...( "I Can see..." - Survival è Ice; "Rajaz"(ñêó÷íûé îí,ÈÌÕÎ,ìàëîýìîöèîíàëüíûé) - Sahara è 3 Wishes).

Êàñàåìî Ôèãóðû è Òðýâåëëåðà - ê ñâîåìó ñòûäó,åùå íå ñëûøàë(è Äàñò ýíä Äðûìç òîæà).Äîìà ëåæèò,íàäî çàöåíèòü.Ñèíãë Ôàêòîð íå ëþáëþ,Ãàâàíü Ñëåç - ñêó÷íàÿ øòóêà.Ðýéí Äýíñåç è Áåçäûõàííûå - íåïëîõèå àëüáîìû,÷óòü êåíòåðáåðèéñêèå,õîòÿ óæå ÷óâñòâóåòñÿ îòõîä îò ñòàðîãî Êýìýëà ê ÷åìó-òî íîâîìó
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2006 14:58 



Yngwar,ïîñëóøàë Òðýâåëëåðà.Ñèëà!!!Î÷åíü ìÿãêî è êàê âñåãäà ïî-êýìýëîâñêè ÈÍÒÅËËÈÃÅÍÒÍÎ!!! Ó íèõ ïðîã-ðîê - ðîê íå äëÿ èíòåëëåêòóàëîâ,à äëÿ èíòåëëèãåíòîâ!!! :) Èíñòðóìåíòàëêè(îñîáåííî 5é òðåê) è ïîñëåäíÿÿ âåùü âàùå ñóïåð!!!Ñîððè,ïîêà íå âñå íàçâàíèÿ ïîìíþ.Ñåãîäíÿ ïðèñòóïëþ ê Íüþäó
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2006 13:22 



Ìîæåò ÿ êàíýøíà õ...ûé ÷èòàòåëü, íî íå íàøåë â ýòîì çàìå÷àòåëüíîì ðàçäåëå ôîðóìà òàêèå ñóïåð êîìàíäû êàê
Pain of Salvation (îäíè èç ëþáèìåéøèõ ïðîã-ðîêåðîâ) :super:;
Àyreon ( âûòÿíóë àëüáîì Human Equation ïîñëóøàòü , óçíàâ ÷òî òàì Ì. Àêåðôåëüäò íà ãðîóëå ïîñòàâëåí - êîìàíäà îêàçàëàñü ñóïåð!!! :super: ñòûäíî ÷òî íå ñëûøàë èõ ðàíüøå...);
Peccatum (ïðîåêò èìïåðîâöà Ihsahn"à) - â ñèëó òîãî ÷òî íàìåøàíî êó÷ó ðàçíîîáðàçíûõ ýëåìåíòîâ âñÿ÷åñêèõ ñòèëåé è êîìïîçèöèè âåñüìà òÿæåëû äëÿ âîñïðèÿòèÿ - ïðîñòî ïðîãðåññèâ!! Õîòÿ íå ïðîñòî , à ñóïåð-êðàñèâî !!! îñîáåííî àëüáîì "Lost In Reverie" – 2004!
Òàêæå äîñòîèí íå ìåíüøåãî âíèìàíàÿ ñîëüíûé ïðîýêò òîãî æå ãåíèàëüíîãî òîâàðèñ÷à Ihsahn "The Adversary" :super: 2006
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2006 13:28 



À âàùå â ïëåíå îïðåäèëåíèÿ ñòèëÿ (÷òîá íèêòî íå ññîðèëñÿ :) ) â êàêîé òî ìåðå ïîìàãàåò ýòîò ðåñóðñ http://www.progarchives.com/
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 30.10.2006 14:01 



Êñòàòè ïî ïîâîäó ýòîãî ðåñóðñà î÷åíü óäèâèëñÿ, ïîòîìó, ÷òî îáíàðóæèë, ÷òî ÿ ïî÷òè ôàíàò ïðîãà :)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2007 03:42 



http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock

Sometimes referred to as "Prague Rock" due to its roots in Czechloslovakian Folk Music, progressive rock rebelled against the more popular regressive rock, in which artists would work backwards, from material about self actualization and to political philosophy, to songs like "Work ####s", "School ####s", "I Want My Mommy" and finally "Gurgle Gurgle".
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2007 22:54 
Ìîñêâà


http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BA

òîæå ñàìîå, òîëüêî ïî-ðóñèø! Ùàñ èäå "Song With The Song" êàìåëåâñêàÿ)))
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2007 00:42 
Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Ïîñîâåòîâàë áû Talisma......õîòÿ ýòî íå÷òî ñðåäíåå ìåæäó ïðîãðîêîì ôüþæíîì è ìÿòàëîì.....ïîëíîñòüþ èíñòðóìåíòàëüíî...
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2007 16:02 



óõ òû,ÿ äóìàë,òîëüêî ÿ èõ ñëûøàë!!! Äà,Õðîìèóì(àëüáîì,÷òî ó ìåíÿ åñòü) ÷ðêçâû÷àéíî çîðîø!Ñëîæíî,íî ìåëîäè÷íî è âïîëíå äîñòóïíî!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2007 18:30 
Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Prog-jester, Ó ìåíÿ òîëüêî Corpus ó íèõ ñëóøàë...
À Parallel Mind è Spaced Out ñëûøàë? Òîæå ÷òî-òî â òàêîì äóõå èãðàþò.
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 08.11.2007 23:55 
Îêñþìîðîí
Àìèêîøîíñòâî Áàòðàõîìèîìàõèÿ

×åðò. Êóäà äåëèñü âñå ýòè ëþäè, òàê çäðàâî ãîâîðÿùèå î ïðîãå? Ãîä íàçàä ÌÔ áûëè êóäà èíòåðåñíåé
Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow. :banana1:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 00:05 



óõòû!
òàì äàæå ìîè ñòàðûå ïîñòû åñö :D
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 00:06 



à åñëè ñåðüåçíî, òî âñå ÷òî ìîæíî óæå îáñóäèëè è îñòàåòñÿ òîëüêî ôëóäèòü :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 00:10 
Îêñþìîðîí
Àìèêîøîíñòâî Áàòðàõîìèîìàõèÿ

Òàê òû áåëûé êðîëèê?
Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow. :banana1:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 00:11 



áûë äî çîáàíà :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 17:52 



Âñ¸-òàêè ýòî êàêàÿ-òî îñîáàÿ ðóññêàÿ òåìà, ñ ïåíîé ó ðòà äîêàçûâàòü ÷òî-òî ïðî êàêîé-òî ñòèëü. Ïî-áîëüøîìó ñ÷¸òó, ïðîã-ðîê è àðò-ðîê ýòî îäíî è òîæå. Âû ìîæåòå ìíå ãîâîðèòü, ÷òî ýòî íå òàê, è ýòî âàøå ïðàâî. Íî ìíå ýòè âûÿñíåíèÿ èíäè/íå èíäè, ðóññêèé ðîã/ãîâíîðîã, àðò/ïðîã, ÷åðòîâñêè íàïîìèíàåò: "Ýé, ïàðåíü, à òû ñ êàêîâà ðàéîíà?".
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 17:55 
Îêñþìîðîí
Àìèêîøîíñòâî Áàòðàõîìèîìàõèÿ

Jester òû íå â òåìå. Ïðè÷åì òóò ýòî
Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow. :banana1:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 18:50 



>à åñëè ñåðüåçíî, òî âñå ÷òî ìîæíî óæå îáñóäèëè è îñòàåòñÿ òîëüêî ôëóäèòü
óðà, íàêîíåö-òî, ñêó÷íî ÷èòàòü âñå ýòî áûëî :4:
ïðîøó ïðîñòèòü)
àðò-ðîê ëóáëó è ñëóøàþ, ñ ïðîãîì ñëîæíåå... ñêàæåì äàëåêî íå âñå è íå ó âñåõ - ýòî òèïà ïî ñàáæó
îíè íå ëþäè. îíè ìóçûêàíòû (ñ)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 09.11.2007 18:52 



>Íî ìíå ýòè âûÿñíåíèÿ èíäè/íå èíäè, ðóññêèé ðîã/ãîâíîðîã, àðò/ïðîã, ÷åðòîâñêè íàïîìèíàåò: "Ýé, ïàðåíü, à òû ñ êàêîâà ðàéîíà?".
òûê ñ ðàçíûõ ðàéîíîâ ðàçíûå ïàðíè..
:7:
îíè íå ëþäè. îíè ìóçûêàíòû (ñ)
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 27.11.2007 15:43 



***àðò-ðîê ëóáëó è ñëóøàþ, ñ ïðîãîì ñëîæíåå...***

äûãûãû, ýòî òèïà "áóòåðáðîäû ÿ ëþáëþ, à âîò êóñîê õëåáà ñ ìàñëîì è êîëáàñîé - íå î÷åíü..."
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 27.11.2007 19:27 



äûê ïîíÿòèå "àðò-ðîê" äîñòàòî÷íî ñìóòíîå...âîò ÿ äî ñèõ ïîð íå ñîâñåì ïîíèìàþ ÷î ýòî :4: ýòî âèäèìî ðàçíîâèäíîñòü ïðîãà...
ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî êðýì èãðàþò àðò ðîê..
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 27.11.2007 22:18 
Îêñþìîðîí
Àìèêîøîíñòâî Áàòðàõîìèîìàõèÿ

>àðò-ðîê ëóáëó è ñëóøàþ

Ëóêàâèòå, áàðûøíÿ :moral: Òå êòî ëþáèò àðò-ðîê íå ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî Êýìåë ñêó÷íûå :idea2:
Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow. :banana1:
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Òåìà: Re: Progressive Rock
Âðåìÿ: 27.11.2007 23:37 



>Òå êòî ëþáèò àðò-ðîê íå ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî Êýìåë ñêó÷íûå
:idea2: :idea2: :idea2: :idea2: :idea2:
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!