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Åñòü ëè öåíèòåëè èõ òâîð÷åñòâà? Ëè÷íî ÿ äîáðàëñÿ äî íèõ ñîâñåì íåäàâíî. Î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëîñü.. Îñîáåííî ïåñíÿ Afterwards...  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 18.06.2007 20:50  | 
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                                    Shep of fools àõðèíåííàÿ ïåñíÿ | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 19.06.2007 00:14  | 
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                                    ãðóïïà õîðîøàÿ. òîëüêî âîò âîêàë ÷î òî ëîìàåò. | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 19.06.2007 14:13  | 
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                                            SPb programmin’, effectin’, beatmakin’, brainf#ckin’  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 19.06.2007 16:11  | 
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![]() Ïî ìíå òàê è âîêàë è ãðóïïêà î÷åíü õàðîøè  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 19.06.2007 16:45  | 
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                                    ñëûøàë, âèäåë, ãëóáî÷àéøèì ñìûñëîì íå ïðîíèêñÿ | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 07:10  | 
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                                    Ãðóïïà õîðîøà, íî, èìõî, âòîðè÷íà. | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 12:28  | 
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                                    Hawkeye, ýòî ñ êîãî æå îíè ïðèìåð áðàëè, ïî-Âàøåìó? | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 17:49  | 
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áîÿí ðàíüøå ñëóøàë - íàäîåëî  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 19:21  | 
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                                            Moscow ♪ Paiste Signature  | 
                                    
                                        
Íàçâàíèå íåïëîõîå-íàçâàëèñü â÷åñòü ïåðâîãî â èñòîðèè ÷åëîâå÷åñòâà ýëåêòðîãåíåðàòîðà, ñîçäàííîãî Âàí äåð Ãðààôîì   Âàí-äå-Ãðààôà ãåíåðàòîð - ýëåêòðîñòàòè÷åêèé ãåíåðàòîð âûñîêîãî ïîñòîÿííîãî íàïðÿæåíèÿ, â êîòîðîì äëÿ ïåðåíîñà ýëåêòðè÷åñêèõ çàðÿäîâ èñïîëüçóåòñÿ äèýëåêòðè÷åñêèé òðàíñïîðòåð â âèäå ãèáêîé ëåíòû. Ïðåäëîæåí â 1931 Ð. Âàí-äå-Ãðààôîì (R. Van de Graaf).  
                                        
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 22:09  | 
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schumann Ó ìåíÿ â ïàìÿòè îñòàëîñü ÷òî-òî î÷åíü ïîõîæåå íà ðàííèõ "Äæåíåçèñ". È åù¸ ÷òî-òî î÷åíü ïîõîæåå íà ðàííèõ æå Êðèìñîíîâ áûëî. Âîîáùå ïåðâîå âïå÷àòëåíèå îò ãðóïïû áûëî -"âðîäå êðóòî, òîëüêî âñ¸ ó êîãî-òî ñîäðàííî".  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 22:17  | 
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>ïîõîæåå íà ðàííèõ æå Êðèìñîíîâ áûëî Íó íåçíàþ...íà Êðèìñîíîâ òî ïîìîåìó ñîâñåì íå ïîõîæå  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 23:39  | 
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                                    Òàê îíè, âîîáùå-òî, â îäíî è òî æå âðåìÿ ðàáîòàëè. Èç òîé ýïîõè âñå áóäåò êàçàòüñÿ ïîõîæèì. Äà óæ, íà Êðèìñîíîâ îíè íå ïîõîæè ñîâñåì. | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.06.2007 23:44  | 
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Van Der Graaf Generator Formed 1967 Disbanded 1978 King Crimson Formed 1969 Genesis Formed 1966 Òàê ÷òî âîïðîñ, êòî ñ êîãî ñëèçûâàë îñòàåòñÿ îòêðûòûì.  | 
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schumann Äà òàì êîíå÷íî âñå äðóã ó äðóãà äðàëè, ïðîñòî ÿ Ãåíåðàòîðîâ óñëûøàë óæå ïîçæå Äæåíåçèñ. Äæåíåçèñ ìíå î÷åíü íðàâèëèñü, à âîò êîãäà ñëóøàë Ãåíåðàòîðîâ, áûëî îùóùåíèå ÷òî ÷åãî-òî ÷óòü-÷óòü íå õâàòàåò, âîò åù¸ áû êàïåëüêó ýòîãî "÷åãî-òî" è áûëî áû âñ¸ êðóòî. À òàê ÷¸-òî êàê-òî íèòî))  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 21.06.2007 14:59  | 
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>Van Der Graaf Generator >Formed >1967 >Disbanded >1978 > > King Crimson >Formed >1969 > >Genesis >Formed >19 66 > > >Òàê ÷òî âîïðîñ, êòî ñ êîãî ñëèçûâàë îñòàåòñÿ îòêðûòûì. +1 Àáñîëþòíî íå ïîõîæèå äðóã íà äðóãà êîëëåêòèâû. È åñëè ó ãåíåçèñà ïîÿâèëñÿ äîñòîéíûé ïîñëåäîâàòåëü â âèäå Ìàðèëüîíà, òî ó ïåðâûõ äâóõ äàæå òàêîâûõ íåò. Âñå ÷òî ìîæåò èõ îáúåäèíÿòü, òîëüêî ñòèëü àðò-ðîê.  | 
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>>Van Der Graaf Generator >>Formed >>1967 >>Disbanded >>1978 >> >>King Crimson >>Formed >>1969 >> >>Genesis >>Formed >>1966 >> >> >>Òàê ÷òî âîïðîñ, êòî ñ êîãî ñëèçûâàë îñòàåòñÿ îòêðûòûì. >+1 Àáñîëþòíî íå ïîõîæèå äðóã íà äðóãà êîëëåêòèâû. È åñëè ó ãåíåçèñà ïîÿâèëñÿ äîñòîéíûé ïîñëåäîâàòåëü â âèäå Ìàðèëüîíà, òî ó ïåðâûõ äâóõ äàæå òàêîâûõ íåò. Âñå ÷òî ìîæåò èõ îáúåäèíÿòü, òîëüêî ñòèëü àðò-ðîê. èìåííî òàê  
                                        
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>Van Der Graaf Generator >Formed >1967 >Disbanded >1978 Ðà çâå îíè ðàçâàëèëèñü??? Îíè âåäü â ÑÏÁ íåñêîëüêî ëåò íàçàä ïðèåçæàëè êàæåòñÿ...èëè ýòî òèïî ðåþíèîí áûë???   Çíàþ òîëüêî ÷òî â 1969 îíè ðàçâàëèëèñü íà íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ, à ïîòîì ñíîâà ñîáðàëèñü ïðàêòè÷åñêè â äðóãîì ñîñòàâå.... Ðàçâå íåò??  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 21.06.2007 17:09  | 
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Ðàçâå îíè ðàçâàëèëèñü??? >Îíè âåäü â ÑÏÁ íåñêîëüêî ëåò íàçàä ïðèåçæàëè êàæåòñÿ...èëè ýòî òèïî ðåþíèîí áûë??? >Çíàþ òîëüêî ÷òî â 1969 îíè ðàçâàëèëèñü íà íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ, à ïîòîì ñíîâà ñîáðàëèñü ïðàêòè÷åñêè â äðóãîì ñîñòàâå.... >Ðàçâå íåò?? Sepulchrave, íå ìîãó îòâå÷àòü çà äîñòîâåðíîñòü èíôîðìàöèè, íî ïðèåçæàëè âðîäå áåç Õåììèëà. Êòî òàì áûë èç îðèãèíàëüíîãî ñîñòàâà íå çíàþ. Õåììèë ïðèåçæàë ñîëüíî, íà åãî ñîëüíèê ÿ õîäèë. Îí âîîáùå îäèí âûñòóïàë, ïîë êîíöåðòà ïîä ãèòàðó ïåë, âòîðóþ ÷àñòü ïîä ðîÿëü. Ãîëîñèùå ó íåãî - àáàëäåòü.  | 
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Àãà! Âàêàë õàðîøûé...äàæå î÷åíü!  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 05.07.2007 21:22  | 
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                                    áûëà â 90õ àìåðèêàíñêàÿ ãðóïïà DISCIPLINE, êîñèâøàÿ ïîä Ãðààôîâ - ëþáëþ èõ ãîðàçäî áîëüøå Õýììèëà è Êî. Èõ âåùü "Canto(Limbo)" ìîæíî ïîñëóøàòü íà www.progarchives.com â îíëàéí-ïëåéåðå | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 07.07.2007 06:35  | 
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                                             Fender Squier  | 
                                    À ÷åì íàðîä òàê Ãåíåñèñ ïð¸ò, âîò ÿ ïî÷òè âñåãî îëä-ïðîãà íàñëóøàëñÿ, ÂûäåëèòÜ ìîãó òîëüêî EmeresonLake&palmer Crimson`îâ Yes Ãýíòë Ãýíò ñîòàëüíîå, ÷òî-òî êàê-òî íå òî... ïîñòàÿííî ÷åãî-òî íåõâàòàåò. Åù¸ íåäàâíî ïîñëóøàë Glass Hammer íè÷¸ òàê ãðóïêà, ïàðó òðýêîâ õîðîøèõ åñòü.  ïîëñäíåå âðåìÿ ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ñëóøà â îñíîâíîì òîëüêî àíãëèéñêóþ ìóçûêó ðàçíûõ íàïðàâëåíèé è ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî àíãëè÷àíå BEST îô çý Áåñò | |
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tebe eshe slushat' i slushat'.Poka ty ne slushal Italian Prog i redkosti hota by vrode FRUUPP, CURVED AIR, FINCH ili BANZAI, ne stroy iz seb'a znatoka     | 
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Prog-jester, Êñòà, åñëè íå ñëîíî, íàñîâåòóé êîãî èç èòàëüÿíöåâ ëó÷øå ïîñëóøàòü.. Ñëóøàë òîëüêî Floating State è Opus Avantra..î÷. ïîíðà... ÇÛ >íãëè÷àíå BEST îô çý Áåñò  
                                        
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 27.07.2007 12:22  | 
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Ïèòåð Õýììèëë ïðèåçæàë îäèí â 1998 ãîäó (èëè â 97-ì), íå ïîìíþ óæå, à VDGG îáúåäèíèëèñü â çîëîòîì ñîñòàâå â 2005, âûïóñòèëè äâîéíèê è ïðîêàòèëèñü â ìèðîâîå òóðíå.  Ãðóïïà, êîòîðóþ íåëüçÿ íå ïðèçíàòü â êà÷åñòâå îòöîâ-îñíîâàòåëåé. Íðàâèòñÿ-íå íðàâèòñÿ ýòî óæ äåëî âêóñà, íî çàñëóãà èõ íåîñïîðèìà. Õîäèë. Âèäåë. Ñóïåð. 2 Subconscious: Èç èòàëüÿíöåâ - PFM, ðàçóìååòñÿ, íó è âñå îñòàëüíîå â òîì êëþ÷å. Ñ ìîåé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ - ñëèøêîì ìåëîäè÷íî è ïðåäñêàçóåìî, åñòü îùóùåíèå, ÷òî Ñàí Ðåìî è â àðò-ðîêå áûâàåò.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 28.07.2007 01:31  | 
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Ñ êàêèõ ýòî ïîð íàëè÷èå áîãàòîé ìåëîäèêè îçíà÷àåò îòñóòñòâèå ïðîãîâîñòè/àðòîâîñòè? Äëÿ ìåíÿ íàîáîðîò  Locanda delle Fate, Le Orme, The Watch (â ýòî âîñêðåñåíüå âèäåë èõ æèâüåì, óäàëîñü äàæå ïîáîëòàòü, íàôîòàòüñÿ è íàõâàòàòüñÿ àâòîãðàôîâ), Semiramis, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, New Trolls, Maxophone, RDM, Metamorfosi, Nuova Era, Moongarden...êó÷à ôèã êîìó èçâåñòíûõ, íî êóëüíûõ áàíä!!!  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2007 15:27  | 
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2 Prog-jester ß íå îòðèöàþ ïðîãîâîñòü/àðòîâîñòü, ïðîñòî äëÿ ìåíÿ "ñåâåðíàÿ" ìóçûêà çâó÷èò áîëåå ïðèâëåêàòåëüíî, ÷åì "þæíàÿ". Åñòü îãðîìíîå êîëè÷åñòâî âåëèêîëåïíûõ íåàíãëîÿçû÷íûõ êîìàíä, íî èòàëüÿíñêèé êîëîðèò î÷åíü âûïèðàåò. Åñëè çàìîðî÷èòüñÿ, ìîæíî ðàçâèòü äàæå òåîðèþ ìåëîäèçìà "îò êåëüòîâ" è "îò ðèìëÿí". Ñòîèò ëè? Ñêîëüêî ðàçìåð íå ëîìàé, âñå ðàâíî "ôåëè÷èòà" Áåç îáèä, àãà!  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 30.07.2007 18:52  | 
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íó äà,åñòü òàêîé ôåëè÷èòèçì  | 
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Íó, ðàçíûå, ñ áóêâû À íà÷èíàÿ...  Äà è êîëëåêöèîíèðîâàíèå óæå íà ñïàä ïîøëî, íå ïðîñëóøàòü âñå òî, ÷òî íàñîáèðàë. Ñåé÷àñ óæå â îñíîâíîì ñëóøàþ ëèáî íîâûå ðåëèçû âñÿêèõ ñòàðè÷êîâ, ëèáî ñàìèõ ñòàðè÷êîâ, ëèáî íè÷åãî íå ñëóøàþ. Ïîñëåäíåå, ÷òî êðóòèë ïîìíîãó "Conspirasy" DVD live. Íó è 2-é àëüáîì.  
                                        
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2008 19:51  | 
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Íåäàâíî ïðî÷èòàë ðåöåíçèþ íà èõ êîíöåðò â 2005îì... Àâòîð î÷åíü õîðîøî îõàðàêòåðèçîâàë èõ ìóçûêó: "Ìóçûêó VDGG ìîæíî îõàðàêòåðèçîâàòü îäíîâðåìåííî âçàèìîèñêëþ÷àþùèìè ñëîâàìè - ýòî îò÷àÿííàÿ, òðàãè÷åñêàÿ, ðîìàíòè÷íàÿ, çëàÿ, òðåâîæíàÿ íåóþòíàÿ ïåñíü. È ðîìàíòè÷íàÿ, åù¸ ðàç. Äâà ãëàâíûõ íàñòðîåíèÿ - òðåâîãà è ðîìàíòèêà. Âîîáùå ÿ áû ñêàçàë îãðóáë¸ííî - âñå èõ ïåñíè íàïîìèíàþò òðàãè÷íûå ïîõîðîííûå ìàðøè, äà äàæå è íå ìàðøè, ïîñêîëüêó â íèõ íåò ïðÿìîãî ïðîñòîãî óáåäèòåëüíîãî ðèòìà."  | 
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 20.03.2008 20:28  | 
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                                    ïîñëóøàë íîâûé äèñê. Âñå-òàêè Ãðààô - íå ìî¸ | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 03.04.2008 20:57  | 
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                                    Ìíå ñàìûé ïåðâûé è The Pawn Hearts áîëüøå âñåãî íðà | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 13.04.2008 13:57  | 
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                                    Êñòàòè, îíè â Á1 âûñòóïàþò 20 àïðåëÿ | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 13.04.2008 16:21  | 
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De_Facto, Àãà...ÿ õîòåë â Ìîñêâó íà íèõ ïðèåõàòü, íî ñåé÷àñ ïåðåäóìàë.  | 
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| Àâòîð | 
                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2008 12:16  | 
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                                            Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã | 
                                    êñòàòè, ïî ïîâîäó Êðèìñîâ è íèõ - äàæå â Âèêèïåäèè íàïèñàíî, ÷òî Ôðèïï ïîìîãàë èì â çàïèñè íåñêîëüêèõ àëüáîìîâ | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2008 19:04  | 
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                                    Àãà. Íó Ôðèïï ìíîãî ãäå ó÷àñòâîâàë. Îí äàæå â Porcupine Tree çàñâåòèëñÿ)) | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Van der Graaf Generator
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 22.05.2008 17:41  | 
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>ïîñëóøàë íîâûé äèñê. ìíå òîæå Òðèñåêòîð íå íðà.. òàì íåò ìàíüÿêà-ñàêñîôîíèñòà  | 
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