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Òåìà: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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Ñêàæèòå!!! Âîò âñå äðîâà ñ äèñêà ïîñòàâèë... È ÷å-òî íå ðàáîòàåò êàðòà ó ìåíÿ â ðåàëüíîì âðåìåíè êàê ïðîöåññîð ÀìïëèÒüþá2...  ïðåâåðàíñàõ íàïðîòèâ inputs/outputs = not connected âåçäå ïðîñòàâèëîñü - ÷å çà õíÿ????!!!!!!! Ïîìîãèòå!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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Ìëÿ, êàêêèå-òî âèðòóàëüíûå â êàðòå âõîäû-âûõîäû åñòü... òàê? Äà êàê æå èõ âûáðàòü-òî ïðàâèëüíî!!!???????????????????????? |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2008 08:27 |
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Ïîñòàâü ñåáå Êóáýéñ èëè Íóýíäî èëè Ñîíàð. Âûñòàâü òàì â íàñòðîéêàõ Àñèî-äðàéâåð ñâîåé çâóêîâîé êàðòû, îáðóáè Direct Monitoring, è âåøàé íà Insert àóäèîòðåêà Amplitube â ðåæèìå âíóòðåííåãî ïðîãðàìíîãî ìîíèòîðèíãà. 
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2008 10:34 |
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ïîñòàâü asio4all. ïîñëå ýòîãî â ïðåâåðàíñàõ ïîÿâèööà êó÷à âõîäîâ-âûõîäîâ è 0202 â òîì ÷èñëå. è áóäåò ùàñòüå. |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2008 12:01 |
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Òàê AmpliTube2 æå ìîæíî è Standalon çàïóñêàòü... ãèòàðó èëè ìèê - â êàðòó, à â Ïðåôåðåíöèÿõ Àìïëèòóáà âìåñòî íîòêîííåêòåä - âõîä êàðòû (íàçâàíèå èùè, òàì æå âàðèàíòû åñòü, à íå òîëüêî Not Connected... åñëè äðîâà íîðìàëüíûå... à òî îáíîâèòü ñ ñàéòà ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ) | |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 04.04.2008 15:25 |
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ïèïåö, ðóññêèé ÿçûê óæå íå êàíàåò - "ïðåôåðåíöèè", "ïðåâåðàíñû", áëèí. Ôèèèè... | |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2008 10:52 |
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Äà ÀÑÈÈÎ4ÀËË --- ÄÅÐÜÌÎ! ðîäíûå íàäî ñòàâèòü... íî íå ïîéìó - ïî÷åìó ðíè íå ïîñòàâèëèñü âìåñòå ñ äðîâàìè ñ äèñêà!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ß ÍÅÑÊÎËÜÊÎ ÐÀÇ ÏÅÐÅÑÒÀÂËßË!!!!!!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2008 16:36 |
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íó ÷òî âû ìíå ñêàæåòå??? ïî÷åìó íå âèäèò Àìïëèòüþá2 ìîþ êàðòó-òî? åùå ðàç àñèî4àëë = ÊÀË |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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Ïðè ÷¸ì òóò Asio4all - ó åíòîé êàðòû îòëè÷íûå ñâîè äðîâà - ñòàâü è íå ïàðüñÿ. Íåò äèñêà ñ äðîâàìè - ñêà÷àé ñ íåòà! | |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2008 17:54 |
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>Ïðè ÷¸ì òóò Asio4all - ó åíòîé êàðòû îòëè÷íûå ñâîè äðîâà - ñòàâü è íå ïàðüñÿ. Íåò äèñêà ñ äðîâàìè - ñêà÷àé ñ íåòà! Äà ïîñòàâèë æå ÿ ÅÅ ÄÐÎÂÀ!!! Íè âèäèò âõîäû\\âûõîäû êàðòû AmpliTube-2 è âñå òóò. Çíà÷èò, òèï óñòðîéñòâà âèäèò - USB 0202... À âîò íàïðîòèâ âõîä\\âûõîä --- ñòîèò Not Connected... È ÷å äåëàòü-òî?!!! |
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Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2008 17:59 |
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Âñòðîåííàÿ îòêëþ÷åíà â Äèñïåò÷åðå? Ýìó óêàçàíà â ÏÓ\\Àóäèîóñòðîéñòâà è íà âîñïð. è íà çàïèñü? |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2008 19:07 |
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Äà î êàêèõ òàêèõ ÏÓ òû ãîâîðèøü????????????? Äà, ïðåäûäóùàÿ êàðòà â Äèñïåò÷åðå Óñòðîéñòâ îòêëþ÷åíà. Íó è ÷òî íà ýòîì??????????????????? Âîò ìëÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2008 21:01 |
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pavel, ÿ ñìîòðþ òû øèáêî óìíûé! åñëè íàéäåøü âàðèàíòû çàïóñêà amplitube2 áåç asio4all-ðåñïåêò òåáå. ó ìåíÿ òàêàÿ æå êàðòà. àíàëîãè÷íàÿ ïðîáëåìà ðåøèëàñü òîëüêî ñ asio4all. óäà÷è! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2008 22:41 |
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akh4, ÿ âåäü íå çðÿ íàïèñàë èñïîëüçîâàòü ñåêâåíñîð - à Amplitube âåøàòü íà Insert êàê VST! Âèäèìî íå ïðåäóñìîòðåííû â Standalon USB-àóäèî! | |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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ïàðäîí, ïðåäûäóùèé ïîñò àäðåñîâàí pavel, íèêîì ìíåìíîãî îøèáñÿ! 
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2008 15:24 |
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Òàê íåò æå - ïðåäûäóùàÿ êàðòà ó ìåíÿ áûë JamLab (M-Audio) - USB!!! È ðàáîòàëî âñå! À ýòó âçÿë ÒÎËÜÊÎ èç-çà âñòðîåííûõ â íåå ïðåàìïîâ!!! Âîò æå áëèí... Ùàñ òîêà ñ ðàáîòû âåðíóëñÿ è ñîáèðàþñü íàçàä åå â ìàãàçèí îòâåçòè. À ýòî òî åñòü â Ðîñòîâ åõàòü ìíå íàäî (70 êì)... Ïèñåö ïðîñòî... Íà÷åðêàë èì ïèñüìî íà www.emu.com - ïîëó÷èë èíôó, ÷òî êîãäà-íèáóäü ìíå îíè îòâåòÿò... Òàì ÿ ÷åòêî îáðèñîâàë ìîþ ïðîáëåìó... Äà ÷òî æå çà õðåíüüü òî òàêàÿ... Òàêàÿ ÊÀÐÒÈÙÀ è íå õî÷åò ðàáîòàòü... Ïðèêðåïëÿþ ñêðèí-øîòû Ýòîãî Âñåãî, ÷òî ó ìåíÿ åñòü... Ìîæåò êòî è ïîìîæåò ìíå ñ Ïðîáëåìîé... |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2008 15:50 |
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Ïîñòàâü Nuendo,òàì â íàñòðîéêàõ àâòîìàòîì äóìàþ âûñòàâèòñÿ ðîäíûå asio,à äàëåå óæå ïðîñòî àìïëèòóá îòêðûâàé òàì êàê âñò â îáùåì òî,íó êàê Þðèê è ñêàçàë,òîëüêî ó ìåíÿ èçíà÷àëüíî çâóêà íå áûëî,ÿ òàì áóêîâêó L íàæèìàþ è âñå ãóä,òàì æå è çàïèñûâàòü êñòàòè óäîáíåå | |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2008 16:30 |
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À åñòü ãäå ñêà÷àòü Íóýíäî??? Äàé ññûëü!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2008 17:23 |
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Íå ðæè ñ ìåíÿ-ëàìåðà!!! ÕÀÕÀÕÀ! ========================= ========== À âîò ãëÿíüòå.... Ïåðåäóìàë ÿ îòâîçèòü Êàðòî÷êó... Ïîêóìåêàþ åùå ÷óòîê íàä íåé............. ß Êóáýéñ âïåðâûå óñòàíîâèë... È ÷å êàê òóò - íå ñîîáðàæàþ... Ñêàæèòå, ÷å òåðü äåëàòü-òî? |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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>Íå ðæè ñ ìåíÿ-ëàìåðà!!! >ÕÀÕÀÕÀ! Äà ÿ óæ äàâíî íå íàä òîáîé, à íàä òåì, ÷òî íà ïåðâîì ñêðèíå  ß ðàáî÷èé Êóá 3.1 áðàë òóò: à ìîæíî è òàêóþ äîõîäÿãó: |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2008 19:39 |
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>>Íå ðæè ñ ìåíÿ-ëàìåðà!!! >>ÕÀÕÀÕÀ! >Äà ÿ óæ äàâíî íå íàä òîáîé, à íàä òåì, ÷òî íà ïåðâîì ñêðèíå >ß ðàáî÷èé Êóá 3.1 áðàë òóò: > >à ìîæíî è òàêóþ äîõîäÿãó: > âûõîäè íà ñâÿçü (ÊÈÏ) |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2008 19:06 |
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ÂÎÒ!!! ß ÂÎÒ ÊÀÊ ÏÐÅÈÍÀ×Ó ÑÂÎÞ ÂÎÏÐÎÑ! ×òîáû ìíå òàêîå ñäåëàòü, äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû ïîÿâèëèñü ÐÅÀËÜÍÛÅ ÂÕÎÄÛ/ÂÛÕÎÄÓ (âõîäû/âûõîäû, âèäèìûå äëÿ ÀÑÈÎ-ïðèëîæåíèÿ, ýòî ó ìåíÿ ñåé÷àñ ÀìïëèÒüþá2)???? Çíà÷èò, ïîñëå ÷åãî ÿ òàê ñòàë çàäóìûâàòüñÿ - ïîñòàâèë ñ äèñêà ñ ñîôòîâîãî èäóùåãî ñ êàðòîé - ïîñòàâèë Cubase LE. È â ìåíÿ Ïóñê-Ïðîãðàììû-Êóáåéñ ïîÿâèëîñü ñëåäóþùåå... Ñì. ñêðèí-øîò... Ìîæåò çäåñü ãäå-òî è ìîæíî ÍÀÑÒÐÎÈÒÜ ÀÑÈÎ-Äðàéâåð ìîåé 0202??? Äàéòå çíàòü, ïîæàëóéñòà!!!!!! |
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pavel, èñïîëüçóé ðîäíîå Asio êàðòû - øòàéíáåðãîâñêèå Asio íàôåã - çàäåðæêè áîëüøèå!
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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ÄÀ ÍÅ ÐÀÁÎÒÀÅÒ ÅÅ ÐÎÄÍÎÅÅ ÀÑÈÎ, ÍÈÎÒÊÓÄÀ ÍÅ ÂÛÇÛÂÀÅÒÑß"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""" ÌËßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß |
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pavel, ïîïðîáóé äðîâêè ñ èíåòà ñâåæèå ñêà÷àòü - åñëè íå çàðàáîòàåò - çíà÷èò ëàæà ñ êàðòîé - ñäàâàé ïîêà íå ïîçäíî! òû êñòàòè íà f4 â êóáýéñå õîäèë - èñêàë òàì âõîäû-âûõîäû íà ðîäíîì Asio êîãäà â VST-Multitrack âûñòàâëåíî ASIO E-MU 0202?
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íåò â Êóáåéñå íèêîãäà åùå íè÷åãî íå çàïèñûâàë è íå èèãðàë - íàó÷è!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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À âîîáùå â âèíäå êàðòà ðàáîòàåò? Ó ìåíÿ 0404, ÿ ñ íåé òîæå ïàðó äíåé êîâûðÿëñÿ, ïîêà çàðàáîòàëà. Ïðè÷åì, â âèíäå âñå ÎÊ, à â êóáå - íèêàê. Îäíîçíà÷íî, ASIO òîëüêî ðîäíîé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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ÅÙÅ ÐÀÇ!!!!!! ÂÎÒ!!! ß ÂÎÒ ÊÀÊ ÏÐÅÈÍÀ×Ó ÑÂÎÞ ÂÎÏÐÎÑ! ×òîáû ìíå òàêîå ñäåëàòü, äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû ïîÿâèëèñü ÐÅÀËÜÍÛÅ ÂÕÎÄÛ/ÂÛÕÎÄÓ (âõîäû/âûõîäû, âèäèìûå äëÿ ÀÑÈÎ-ïðèëîæåíèÿ, ýòî ó ìåíÿ ñåé÷àñ ÀìïëèÒüþá2)???? Çíà÷èò, ïîñëå ÷åãî ÿ òàê ñòàë çàäóìûâàòüñÿ - ïîñòàâèë ñ äèñêà ñ ñîôòîâîãî èäóùåãî ñ êàðòîé - ïîñòàâèë Cubase LE. È â ìåíÿ Ïóñê-Ïðîãðàììû-Êóáåéñ ïîÿâèëîñü ñëåäóþùåå... Ñì. ñêðèí-øîò... Ìîæåò çäåñü ãäå-òî è ìîæíî ÍÀÑÒÐÎÈÒÜ ÀÑÈÎ-Äðàéâåð ìîåé 0202??? Äàéòå çíàòü, ïîæàëóéñòà!!!!!! ============================ =========================== Äà ïîäñêàæèòå ìíå êòî-íèáóäü ïî ïîñëåäíåìó ñêðèí-øîòó - ÿ ìîãó íàñòðàèâàòü ÀÑÈÎ-äðàéâåð?!?!?!?! ß ïðî òîò ÿðëûê íà êîòîðîì îñòàíîâëåí êóðñîð íà ìîåé ïîñëåäíåé ôîòîãðàôôèè!!! ÆÄÓ!!! Ñïàñèáî ÂÑÅÌ!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
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pavel, DX FullDuplex Asio åíòî íå ðîäíîé ASIO-äðàéâåð êàðòû, è çàäåðæêè â í¸ì áóäóò íå õèëûå! Ê òîìó ýå åíòî íå ðåøåíèå ïðîáëåììû! Ìî¸ ìíåíèå òàêîãî: ÊðåàòèÔ÷åã + USB = áîëüøóùèé ãëþê! Ñîáñòâåííî ïîäîáíûå òåìû è ïðî ASIO è ïðî çâóêîâóõè èçúþçàíû íà íåò è íà ýòîì ôîðóìå, è íà ôîðóìå ó Ïåòåëèíûõ. Òû áû ïîëàçèë - ïî÷èòàë - óæå íåòó ñèëîÔ îäíî è òî æå êàæäîìó îáúÿñíÿòü: Âîîáùåì ô ïîèñà - ìàòåðèàëà ïîëíî óæå íàïèñàííîãî! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 11.04.2008 20:12 |
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âñå....... çíà÷èò çàâòðà ïîåäó îòâîçèòü êàðòó.................... ýýýýýýýýýõõõõõõõõ |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 11.04.2008 21:45 |
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À óðîê èçâëåêàòü? Âåäü ìîæíî ñïðîñèòü ñîâåòà íà áóäóùåå - êàêóþ áðàòü â îáìåí
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 11.04.2008 23:47 |
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Äà! Ïîñîâåòóéòå (â òîé æå öåíîâîé êàòåãîðèè = 3850ð) ÷òî ïîäîéäåò-òî?!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2008 02:42 |
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ÝÉÉÉ!!! Ðåáÿòà, ïîñîâåòóéòå!!! ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, íàäî áðàòü ëèáî ÏèñèÀé ëèáî ÔàéåðÂàåð?!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2008 03:53 |
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M-Audio: FW Solo 6500-7500 rublej ili USB Fast Track, esli za te zhe dengi |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2008 04:11 |
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Çàøèáèñü ïîñîâåòîâàë USB Fast Track îäíîçíà÷íî íàõ, ïîòîìó ÷òî USB!  FW Solo íåò ìèäè âõîäà, åñëè áóäåøü ðàáîòàòü ñ ìèäè-êëàâîé - òîæå íàõ, áî midi ÷åðåç USB - Íàõ!
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2008 04:16 |
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2008 04:17 |
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YurikRecords, â êðàéíîñòè âïàäàåøü!  Îòëè÷íî ðàáîòàåò ìèäè ïî USB! À åñëè åñòü àðãóìåíòû ïðîòèâ, òî îãëàøàé,- óâèäèì, íàäî ëè îíî ðåàëüíî!.. Åñëè ìîæåøü çà òå æå äåíüãè ïîñîâåòîâàòü FireWire,- êàì îí!  îáùåì, íå îòâëåêàéñÿ îò ñóòè âîïðîñà
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Òåìà: Re: E-MU 0202 USB + AmpliTube2 - ïîìîãèòå !!!
Âðåìÿ: 12.04.2008 04:20 |
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Paolo, òåáå ñ Ïåòåëèíûõ ñ ïðîáëåììàìè ïî ìèäè ÷åðåç USB ñöûëîê ïîíàêèäàòü - òàì õâàòàåò Íàõ åìó ôàåðâàåð - õàé áåð¸ò ïèñèàéíóþ Delta 192 ëèáî 2496 è íèèï¸ò ìîñÃ! È ä¸øåâî, è íàä¸æíî, è ñåðäèòî... |
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