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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè  
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Ïðèâåò, ÿ íàïèñàë ïðîãðàììó äëÿ îáó÷åíèÿ âîêàëèñòîâ è èíñòðóìåíòàëèñòîâ ïðàâèëüíîìó èíòîíèðîâàíèþ - ïîïàäàòü â íîòû. Ïðîãðàììà íà Äæàâå è ìîæåò ðàáîòàòü â ðàçíûõ îïåðàöèîíêàõ, íî âñå ðàâíî â íèõ åñòü îòëè÷èÿ êàê â ãðàôèêå, òàê è â óñòðîéñòâàõ ââîäà âûâîäà çâóêà. ×òîáû ðàññòàâèòü ïðèîðèòåòû, ÿ õîòåë áû çíàòü, êàêèå îïåðàöèîíêè íàðîä èñïîëüçóåò. |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>>ïîïàäàòü â íîòû. >òþíåð ÷òîëå? Òèïà, òîëüêî áîëåå ïðîäâèíóòûé. íàïðèìåð ÷åë ïîåò ãàììó à îíà â ðèàëòàéìå ãðàôè÷åñêè ïîêàçûâàåò âûñîòó òîíà, ïîïàë îí â íîòó ãàììû èëè íåò. òóò òðèàë |
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×òî-òî òèïà Àâòîòþíà? Âûêëàäûâàé - ïîòåñòèì 
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ñêîðåå òèïà òèðà: áàö, áàö, è ìèìî!
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>×òî-òî òèïà Àâòîòþíà? Íåò, îíî íå òþíèò ãîëîñ. Îíî ïîêàçûâàåò êóäà þçåð ïîåò, èëè èãðàåò. Òóäà èëè íå òóäà. Ýòî íå ïðîèçâîäñòâåííàÿ ïðîãðàììà, à îáó÷àòåëüíàÿ. Ïîìîãàåò íàó÷èòüñÿ òî÷íî íîòû áðàòü. >Âûêëàäûâàé - ïîòåñòèì òóò òðèàë |
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Ýòî íàçûâàåòñÿ - ñîëüôåäæèî... | |
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åäð¸íûòü ýò âàì íå èòèòü.
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Æåñòÿíùèê, îíî êîíå÷íî ìûñëü áëàãàÿ, íî áîþñü ÷òî èäåÿ ýòà ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ ìåäâåæüåé óñëóãîé, âðÿä ëè ïîìîæåò. Ïðè òàêîé ìåòîäèêå ìîòîðèêà ñëóõà íå íàðàáîòàåòñÿ. Âèçóàëüíûé êîíòðîëü áèåíèé ñëóõ íå ðàçîâüåò. Ìíå êàæåòñÿ âïóñòóþ òû âðåìÿ ïîòðàòèë íà ýòó ïðîãó. ÈÌÕÎ. |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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ÕîÇå, ïî óìíîìó âîïðîñó ñðàçó âèäíî óìíîãî ÷åëîâåêà!  Ïåðåä òåì êàê íà÷àòü äåëàòü, ÿ òîæå äóìàë èìåííî îá ýòîì. Íî ïîòîì ðåøèë, âåäü ìåòðîíîì-æå íå ïîäàâëÿåò ó ìóçûêàíòà ÷óâñòâà ðèòìà. Åñëè èì ïðàâèëüíî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ. Çàíèìàòüñÿ òîæå íàäî ñ óìîì, ïîïåë ãëÿäÿ íà êðèâóþ ñâîåãî òîíà, ãîðëî ïðèâûêëî êàê íàäî, óõî ïðèâûêëî. Íàâûê íåìíîãî çàêðåïèëñÿ. Íà÷èíàé ïåòü íå ãëÿäÿ. Íà ñëóõ. À ãëÿäè óæå ïîñëå òîãî êàê ñïåë. Äëÿ ïðîâåðêè. Åñëè åñòü îòêëîíåíèÿ, íà÷èíàé ñíà÷àëà. ß ñàì èìåííî òàê çàíèìàþñü. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî ñëóõîâîé ñàìîêîíòðîëü ïðèòóïëÿåòñÿ ñî âðåìåíåì. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ó ìåíÿ. Ïîñëå 20 ìèíóò êðèâîãî ïåíèÿ ñëóõ ïðèâûêàåò ê îøèáêàì ãîëîñà, è íà÷èíàåò êàçàòüñÿ, ÷òî ñïåë âñå ïðàâèëüíî. À çðåíèåì òû ñðàçó âèäèøü ëàæó, è íå äàåøü ñëóõó ê íåé ïðèâûêíóòü. Íåñîìíåííî, ïðîãðàììà íå çàìåíÿåò ó÷èòåëÿ, êàê íå ìîæåò åãî çàìåíèòü ìåòðîíîì. Íî ó÷èòåëü ïóñòü ñòàâèò ãîëîñ, çâó÷àíèå, ìóçûêàëüíîñòü, âûðàçèòåëüíîñòü è ïðî÷èå òîíêèå âåùè. À ïðîñòî ïîïàäàòü â íîòû, çà÷åì äëÿ ýòîãî òðàòèòü äîðîãîå âðåìÿ ñ ïðåïîäîì? Ïîýòîìó, ÈÌÕÎ, ýòî î÷åíü ïîëåçíàÿ ïðîãà. |
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Æåñòÿíùèê, âðåìÿ ïîêàæåò, êàê ïîäñïîðüå ïî÷åìó íåò. Íî êàê îñíîâíîé - íè â êîåì ñëó÷àå. ÈÌÕÎ. ß íå ñìîãó îáÿúñíèòü, èáî íå ïåäàãîã è íå òåîðåòèê, íî ïðàâèëüíàÿ ìîòîðèêà íàðàáàòûâàåòñÿ òîëüêî ñòàðûìè äîáðûìè ìåòîäèêàìè ïðîâåðåííûìè òûñÿ÷åëåíòèÿìè, ñòàòèñòèêà ãîâîðèò çà ýòî. Íå òû ïåðâûé â ïîäîáíûõ ýêñïåðèìåíòàõ. Âïðî÷åì åñëè âðåìåíè íå æàëêî, òî ïîïûòêà íå ïûòêà, ïîæóåì óâèäèì. À âäðóã? PS: êñòòå äàëåêî íå âñåãäà åñòü íåîáõîäèìîñòü â òî÷íîì èíòîíèðîâàíèè ÷àñòîòû, íàïðèìåð â áëþçå è äæàçå â ýòîì íåò íåîáõîäèìîñòè, ñêîðåé äàæå íàîáîðîò... È êàê òóò áûòü ñ òâîåé ïðîãðàìîé?
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>À ïðîñòî ïîïàäàòü â íîòû, çà÷åì äëÿ ýòîãî òðàòèòü äîðîãîå âðåìÿ ñ ïðåïîäîì? Äëÿ ýòîãî ñàìîå ãëàâíîå óñëîâèå - îáëàäàíèå ìóçûêàëüíûì ñëóõîì. Ïðåïîä íóæåí, â äàííîì êîíòåêñòå, äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè âíóòðåííåãî ñëóõà è êîîðäèíàöèè åãî â âçèìîñâÿçè ñ èíñòðóìåíòîì. È ÿ êàê òî ñîìíåâàþñü, ÷òî òâîÿ ìåòîäèêà ïîìîæåò â ýòîì.
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal
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ÕîÇå , òû ÷åãî äà ïàöàíà äîêîïàëñÿ?   Àâòàð ðàçîáðàëñÿ â ßâå, íàïèñàë ïðîãðàììó. Ïîìîæåò åìó - õîðîøî
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>ïðàâèëüíàÿ ìîòîðèêà íàðàáàòûâàåòñÿ òîëüêî ñòàðûìè äîáðûìè ìåòîäèêàìè ïðîâåðåííûìè òûñÿ÷åëåíòèÿìè, òîãäà êîìïóòåðîâ íå áûëî >ñòàòèñòèêà ãîâîðèò çà ýòî ïîäåëèñü ñòàòèñòèêîé? >íå âñåãäà åñòü íåîáõîäèìîñòü â òî÷íîì èíòîíèðîâàíèè Óæ ýòè-òî ìàñòåðà ìîãóò èíòîíèðîâàòü êàê õîòÿò. Õîòü â íîòó, õîòü îêîëî. Íî èìåííî ïîòîìó, ÷òî îíè ñàìè òàê õîòÿò. Ýòî êàê ÷òîáû ìåòàòü íîæ ïîïàäàÿ âîçëå ãîëîâû, íàäî óìåòü îòëè÷íî ìåòàòü íîæ. Ò.å. êàê íè êðóòè à ìîòîðèêó íàäî òðåíèðîâàòü. Îñîáåííî äëÿ äæàçà. >ñàìîå ãëàâíîå óñëîâèå - îáëàäàíèå ìóçûêàëüíûì ñëóõîì. Èíîãäà è ñëóõ åñòü, à ÷åë ïîåò ìèìî. Ãîðëîì íå ìîæåò åùå óïðàâëÿòü. >Ïðåïîä íóæåí, â äàííîì êîíòåêñòå, äëÿ òðåíèðîâêè âíóòðåííåãî ñëóõà è êîîðäèíàöèè åãî â âçèìîñâÿçè ñ èíñòðóìåíòîì. Ïðåïîä íóæåí, êîíå÷íî. Íî ïðåïîä òîæå âåëèò äîìà ñàìîìó çàíèìàòüñÿ. Òóò-òî ïðîãà è ïîìîæåò. ñïàñèáî! |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>êñòòå äàëåêî íå âñåãäà åñòü íåîáõîäèìîñòü â òî÷íîì èíòîíèðîâàíèè ÷àñòîòû, Êñòàòå, ïðîãà ïîääåðæèâàåò ìèêðîèíòîíèðîâàíèå. Ò.å. ìîæíî òðåíèðîâàòü äæàçîâûå "îêîëîíîòèÿ" è àðàáñêèå ëàäû
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Æåñòÿíùèê , äà íå âîïðîñ, êàê ïîäñîáíûé èíñòðóìåíò äëÿ ïîäñòðîéêè ñâÿçîê è òðåíèðîâêè êîîðäèíàöèè ïî÷åìó æå íåò. Îäíàêî åñòü ñ âîêàëîì íåêèå õèòðîñòè, ïðè÷åì ñóãóáî ñóáúåêòèâíûå, êîòîðûå òàêàÿ ïðîãðàììà íå ñìîæåò ó÷åñòü, è äåëî íå â ìèêðîèíòîíèðîâàíèè, äåëî â ãàðìîíèêàõ, îíè äàëåêî íå âñåãäà âñå òîíàëüíû.  ðåàëå áîëüøå ðàáîòàåò èíòóèöèÿ à íå ôèçèêà.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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> Æåñòÿíùèê , äà íå âîïðîñ, êàê ïîäñîáíûé èíñòðóìåíò äëÿ ïîäñòðîéêè ñâÿçîê è òðåíèðîâêè êîîðäèíàöèè ïî÷åìó æå íåò. Èìåííî òàê ÿ åãî è ïîçèöèîíèðóþ. >Îäíàêî åñòü ñ âîêàëîì íåêèå õèòðîñòè, ïðè÷åì ñóãóáî ñóáúåêòèâíûå, êîòîðûå òàêàÿ ïðîãðàììà íå ñìîæåò ó÷åñòü, è äåëî íå â ìèêðîèíòîíèðîâàíèè, äåëî â ãàðìîíèêàõ, îíè äàëåêî íå âñåãäà âñå òîíàëüíû. > ðåàëå áîëüøå ðàáîòàåò èíòóèöèÿ à íå ôèçèêà. Íó äà, íåò ðå÷è, ÷òîáû îòíîñèòåëüíî ïðèìèòèâíûé êîìïüþòåðíûé àëãîðèòì ìîã êîíêóðèðîâàòü ñ òàêîé ðàçâèòîé ñèñòåìîé, êàê óõî-ìîçã. Íî çàäóìêè ó ìåíÿ åñòü. Ìîæíî, íàïðèìåð, çàäåéñòâîâàòü íåéðîííóþ ñåòü äëÿ àäàïòèâíîãî ïðåîáðàçîâàíèÿ Ôóðüå. Ýòî è áóäåò íå÷òî âðîäå èíòóèöèè. Ýòî íå Ìîçã, êîíå÷íî, íî òàêîé ìààëåíüêèé ìîçæå÷åê
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Íó òû øàìàí!!! Íó âàùå! 
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Ðàìåíñêîå Ëàïû è õâîñ 
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>Ýòî è áóäåò íå÷òî âðîäå èíòóèöèè. >Ìîæíî, íàïðèìåð, çàäåéñòâîâàòü íåéðîííóþ ñåòü äëÿ àäàïòèâíîãî ïðåîáðàçîâàíèÿ Ôóðüå. Ôèãà äèñêóññèÿ, ó âàñ åñòü êàíäèäàòû òåõíè÷åñêèõ íàóê ñ ïðîôåññîðàìè?(è èõ íàäî ìíîãî )Ýòî ñêîðåå âñåãî áóäåò íå èíòóèöèÿ à ýêñïåðòíàÿ ñèñòåìà, êîòîðóþ ïðèä¸òñÿ îáó÷àòü, ò.å. çàáèâàòü â íå¸ äàííûå òàêæå êàê â áàçó äàííûõ(ÁÄ), âñ¸ îñòàëüíîå áóäóò äàííûå àêêóìóëèðóåìûå íà çàâèñèìîñòÿõ êîòîðûå òîæå íàäî áóäåò çàáèâàòü(áàçà çíàíèé). Õî÷åøü ñåðü¸çíî çàíÿòüñÿ ýòîé àõèíååé ïðîïèøè â èíåòå òåðìèíû "èíòåëëåêò" è "ýêñïåðòíûå ñèñòåìû", ðàññìîòðè îñíîâíûå ôóíêöèè. À èñòèííàÿ èíòóèöèÿ áåð¸òñÿ äàëåêî íå îòòóäà - ó êîãî òî åñòü, ó êîãî òî å¸ âîâñå íåò. Ïñèõîëîãèÿ è ýêñòðàñåíñîðíûå ñïîñîáíîñòè íå áîëåå. ÕîÇå , äà âàùå ïèïåö, íåóæåëè îí ýòî ðåàëüíî ñîáðàëñÿ äåëàòü... |
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Òåðìèíîëîãèÿ ïîâåëèòåëÿ - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YEbuOOgBcICEKIZZefGRFAeCrqJBUIQwhMPub7v05jw
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal
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>çàäåéñòâîâàòü íåéðîííóþ ñåòü äëÿ àäàïòèâíîãî ïðåîáðàçîâàíèÿ Ôóðüå. ÁÏÔ ñ÷èòàòü?
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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Ñòàâðîïîëüñêèé êð ñ Êî÷óáååâñêîå
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> ... äà âàùå ïèïåö, íåóæåëè îí ýòî ðåàëüíî ñîáðàëñÿ äåëàòü... À ïî÷åìó áû è íåò? Æåñòÿíùèê âîîáùå ðåäêî çäåñü ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ. ×åëîâåê ïðàêòè÷íûé, íà ôîðóìå â ïóñòóþ (êàê íåêîòîðûå) ÿçûêîì íå áîëòàåò. À åãî ïîÿâëåíèå îçíà÷àåò è ïîÿâëåíèå íîâîé êàêîé íèáóäü íîâîé ïðîãðàììêè, ïóñòü è íå òàêîé óæ íåîáõîäèìîé, íî, âñå-òàêè ñâîÿ. |
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Ëûòêàðèíî ðóêè-óõè
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Ó ìåíÿ åñòü òàêàÿ ìàëåíüêàÿ êîðîáî÷êà: õðîìàòè÷åñêèé ãèòàðíûé òþíåð ñî âñòðîåííûì ìèêðîôîíîì (20$). Êîãäà ïîþ, îí òîæå ïîêàçûâàåò êàêóþ íîòó ÿ êóäà íåäîòÿíóë.  ÷åì íîâèçíà? |
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.... è åäèíñòâåííûå íàóøíèêè, êîòîðûì ÿ ïîëíîñòüþ äîâåðÿþ ýòî beyerdynamic DTX 501p
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Ìîñêâà Ãèòàðû
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À êàê ïðîãó-òî çàïóñòèòü? ÖÌÄ ôàéë ÷òîëü? | |
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal
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> ÷åì íîâèçíà? òàì àññåìáëåð. à òóò - ßâà. Òèïà ïðîãðåññèâíûé ÿçûê äëÿ ïðîìûøëåííîé ðàçðàáîòêè è âñå òàêîå
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>À êàê ïðîãó-òî çàïóñòèòü? ÖÌÄ ôàéë ÷òîëü? > Åñëè â Âèíäå, òî ÖÌÄ, åñëè â ëèíóêñå, òî Ø. Ùàñ ðàáîòàþ íàä çàïóñêàëêîé äëÿ Ìàêà. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>ÁÏÔ ñ÷èòàòü? Ñ ÁÏÔ ïðîáëåìêà åñòü, êîãäà ïåðåâîäèøü èç ðàâíîðàçäåëåííîãî äèñêðåòíîãî âðåìåííîãî äîìåíà, òî ÷àñòîòíûé äîìåí òîæå ðàâíîðàçäåëåí. Ëèíåéíàÿ äèñêðåòèçàöèÿ ÷àñòîòíîãî äîìåíà íå ñîâïàäàåò ñ ëîãàðèôìè÷åñêîé ÷àñòîòíîé (íîòíîé) äèñêðåòèçàöèåé, ïðèíÿòîé â ìóçûêå. Íåéðîííûé àëãîðèòì ïîçâîëÿåò äåòåêòèðîâàòü íàñòîÿùèå ÷àñòîòû, à íå íàáèðàòü ñòàòèñòèêó ïî ïîääèàïàçîíàì, à ïîòîì ãàäàòü, êàêàÿ-æå òî÷íî áûëà ÷àñòîòà â ïîääèàçîíå ñ íàèáîëüøåé ñòàòèñòèêîé.  íàñòîÿùèé ìîìåíò â ïðîãðàììå èñïîëüçóåòñÿ àëãîðèòì àâòîêîððåëÿöèè. Îí ïðîñò è òî÷åí. Íî ñ íèì ïðîáëåìà òàêàÿ, îí íå ó÷èòûâàåò àìïëèòóäû ñîñòàâëÿþùèõ (äà âîîáùå ñîñòàâëÿþùèå íå âûäåëÿåò) è ïîýòîìó îñîáî ÷óâñòâèòåëåí ê íèçêî÷àñòîòíûì ñîñòàâëÿþùèì. Ñêàæåì òàê, åñòü ñìåñü äâóõ ñèãíàëîâ, 50Ãö ñ àìïëèòóäîé 0.25 ïîïóãàåâ è 100 Ãö ñ àìïëèòóäîé 0.75 ïîïóãàåâ. ×åë ñêàæåò, ÷òî âûñîòà çâóêà 100Ãö è åñòü ñóáãàðìîíèêà 50 Ãö. À àëãîðèòì àâòîêîððåëÿöèè ïîêàæåò 50Ãö. Êîðî÷å, âåçäå ñâîè íåäîñòàòêè è ïîëå äëÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòè åñòü. Ò.ê. ìû äëÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ âûñîòû çâóêà ïîëüçóåìÿ íåéðîííîé ñèñòåìîé óõî-ìîçã, òî è ïðîãðàììà â èäåàëå äîëæíà ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ÷åì-òî áëèçêèì. ×òî òàì èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â ãèòàðíûõ òþíåðàõ - íå çíàþ, íî îíî äîâîëüíî òîðìîçíîå òàì, ïîïîéòå â íåãî ÷òî íèáóäü áûñòðî ìåíÿÿ òîí, îí ñêîðåå âñåãî íå áóäåò óñïåâàòü. Îíè çàòî÷åíû äëÿ _íàñòðîéêè_ èíñòðóìåòîâ, íå äëÿ ðàáîòû íàä èíòîíèðîâàíèåì. |
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Allen & Heath, Mackie, Fender, Sennheiser, AKG, Tascam, TC, DBX
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äûê à êàê äåéñòâóþò òîãäà ìåëîäèíû, àâòîòþíû, VariAudio? | |
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ã.Âëàäèìèð
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Æåñòÿíùèê , çàãëÿíèêà: È òàêèõ ïðîã íå îäíà...
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åäð¸íûòü ýò âàì íå èòèòü.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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Ear-Master òðåíèðóåò ñëóõ. Íåñêîëüêî íå òî. Âîçìîæíî, äðóãèå ïðîãðàììû åñòü. Íî ìîÿ-òî ëó÷øå! Íàïðèìåð, â ìîåé ïðîãðàììå (PreciseTone) åñòü ãåíåðàòîð ãàìì. Ìîæíî ñîçäàòü ãàììó, èëè îòêðûòü ñîçäàííóþ ðàíåå, è ïåòü ïî íåé. Åñòü èìïîðò èç ÌÈÄÈ òðåêà. Áåðåøü âîêàëüíóþ ïàðòèþ èç ëþáîãî ÌÈÄÈ ôàéëà è ó÷èøüñÿ ïî íåé ïåòü. Åñòü çàãðóçêà èç àóäèî ôàéëà, íàïðèìåð âîêàëüíîãî òðåêà èç Êóáýéñà. Ìîæíî ðèñîâàòü äèñêðåòíûå èëè ãëàäêèå ãëèññàíäî. Ìîæíî ðèñîâàòü ìèêðî òîíû, "îêîëîíîòèÿ". Äëÿ äæàçèñòîâ èëè àðàáèñòîâ. Åñòü ýêñïîðò â ÌÈÄÈ.... È áóäåò åùå áîëüøå! Âðàã áóäåò ðàçáèò! Ïîáåäà áóäåò çà íàìè!
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>äûê à êàê äåéñòâóþò òîãäà ìåëîäèíû, àâòîòþíû, VariAudio? Íå çíàþ. Îíè ýòî äåðæàò â òàéíå. Ñêîðåå âñåãî ÁÏÔ, ìîäèôèöèðîâàííîå ïîä çàäà÷ó. |
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ã.Âëàäèìèð
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>Âðàã áóäåò ðàçáèò! Ïîáåäà áóäåò çà íàìè! Âïåðåä, óðà! 
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åäð¸íûòü ýò âàì íå èòèòü.
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Ðàìåíñêîå Ëàïû è õâîñ
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Ƹñòêèé òû êîäåð... Ïèøè ñâîþ äàâ ñðàçó, òàê åù¸ æ¸ùå... >Âðàã áóäåò ðàçáèò! Ïîáåäà áóäåò çà íàìè! 
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Òåðìèíîëîãèÿ ïîâåëèòåëÿ - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YEbuOOgBcICEKIZZefGRFAeCrqJBUIQwhMPub7v05jw
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ã.Âëàäèìèð
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Òû ëó÷øå â ñîñåäíåé òåìêå ñ Äìèòðèåì ñâÿæèñü, âîò êîíêðåòíàÿ è êñòàòå âåñüìà âîñòðåáîâàííàÿ çàäà÷êà.
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åäð¸íûòü ýò âàì íå èòèòü.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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> Æåñòÿíùèê , çàãëÿíèêà: >http://www.pcmusic.ru/earmaster-school-v500621s >È òàêèõ ïðîã íå îäíà... Ïðîñìîòðåë âñå 145 â ðàçäåëå Îáó÷åíèå (Ìàíóàëû, Tutorials) (145) íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî íå íàøåë. Åñòåñòâåííî, ÿ íå äóìàþ, ÷òî PreciseTone óíèêàëüíà, íàâåðíÿêà åñòü íåñêîëüêî ðåàëèçàöèé ýòîé èäåè, êîòîðàÿ, â îáùåì-òî ëåæèò íà ïîâåðõíîñòè. Íî ñêîëüêî åñòü äðóãèõ òåì, ãäå ñóùåñòâóþò ïî íåñêîëüêó ïðîãðàìì? Äà ïîëíî! È ïî÷òè âåçäå - íà÷èíàÿ ñ òåêñòîâûõ ïðîöåññîðîâ è ãðàô ðåäàêòîâ è êîí÷àÿ ïðîãàìè äëÿ çâóêîçàïèñè Êóáåéñû âñÿêèå, Ïðîòóëçû... È íè÷å, æèâóò, ïðîäàþò... |
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Ðàìåíñêîå Ëàïû è õâîñ
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>Ñêîðåå âñåãî ÁÏÔ, ìîäèôèöèðîâàííîå ïîä çàäà÷ó. Ðàñïîçíàâàíèå îáðàçîâ. Òèïà êàê ðàñïîçíà¸òñÿ òåêñò, òîëüêî òóò ÷àñòîòû. Åñòåññíî ýòî äîðîãèå òåõíîëîãèè è ìíîãî ïèïëîâ íàä ýòèì áèëèñü. |
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Òåðìèíîëîãèÿ ïîâåëèòåëÿ - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YEbuOOgBcICEKIZZefGRFAeCrqJBUIQwhMPub7v05jw
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>è ìíîãî ïèïëîâ íàä ýòèì áèëèñü. Ìåëîäèí îäèí ÷åë íà÷èíàë ïèñàòü. |
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal
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>>ÁÏÔ ñ÷èòàòü? > >Ñ ÁÏÔ ïðîáëåìêà åñòü, êîãäà ïåðåâîäèøü èç ðàâíîðàçäåëåííîãî äèñêðåòíîãî âðåìåííîãî äîìåíà, òî ÷àñòîòíûé äîìåí òîæå ðàâíîðàçäåëåí. Ëèíåéíàÿ äèñêðåòèçàöèÿ ÷àñòîòíîãî äîìåíà íå ñîâïàäàåò ñ ëîãàðèôìè÷åñêîé ÷àñòîòíîé (íîòíîé) äèñêðåòèçàöèåé, ïðèíÿòîé â ìóçûêå. >Íåéðîííûé àëãîðèòì ïîçâîëÿåò äåòåêòèðîâàòü íàñòîÿùèå ÷àñòîòû, à íå íàáèðàòü ñòàòèñòèêó ïî ïîääèàïàçîíàì, à ïîòîì ãàäàòü, êàêàÿ-æå òî÷íî áûëà ÷àñòîòà â ïîääèàçîíå ñ íàèáîëüøåé ñòàòèñòèêîé. > > íàñòîÿùèé ìîìåíò â ïðîãðàììå èñïîëüçóåòñÿ àëãîðèòì àâòîêîððåëÿöèè. >Îí ïðîñò è òî÷åí. Íî ñ íèì ïðîáëåìà òàêàÿ, îí íå ó÷èòûâàåò àìïëèòóäû ñîñòàâëÿþùèõ (äà âîîáùå ñîñòàâëÿþùèå íå âûäåëÿåò) è ïîýòîìó îñîáî ÷óâñòâèòåëåí ê íèçêî÷àñòîòíûì ñîñòàâëÿþùèì. >Ñêàæåì òàê, åñòü ñìåñü äâóõ ñèãíàëîâ, 50Ãö ñ àìïëèòóäîé 0.25 ïîïóãàåâ è 100 Ãö ñ àìïëèòóäîé 0.75 ïîïóãàåâ. ×åë ñêàæåò, ÷òî âûñîòà çâóêà 100Ãö è åñòü ñóáãàðìîíèêà 50 Ãö. À àëãîðèòì àâòîêîððåëÿöèè ïîêàæåò 50Ãö. > >Êîðî÷å, âåçäå ñâîè íåäîñòàòêè è ïîëå äëÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòè åñòü. >Ò.ê. ìû äëÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ âûñîòû çâóêà ïîëüçóåìÿ íåéðîííîé ñèñòåìîé óõî-ìîçã, òî è ïðîãðàììà â èäåàëå äîëæíà ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ÷åì-òî áëèçêèì. > >×òî òàì èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â ãèòàðíûõ òþíåðàõ - íå çíàþ, íî îíî äîâîëüíî òîðìîçíîå òàì, ïîïîéòå â íåãî ÷òî íèáóäü áûñòðî ìåíÿÿ òîí, îí ñêîðåå âñåãî íå áóäåò óñïåâàòü. Îíè çàòî÷åíû äëÿ _íàñòðîéêè_ èíñòðóìåòîâ, íå äëÿ ðàáîòû íàä èíòîíèðîâàíèåì. ß èíñòèòóò óæå äàâíî çàêîí÷èë, äåòàëåé íå ïîìíþ, íî íå ïîíèìàþ, íàôèãà òàê èçâðàùàòüñÿ? Äåëàåøü ñâåðòêó (äîáèâàÿ íóëÿìè ñâåðõó, åñëè èñõîäíàÿ ðàçðÿäíîñòü ìåíüøå) -> ïîëó÷àåøü ÷àñòîòíîå ðàïðåäåëåíèå. êëàñòåðèçóåøü/óñðåäíÿåøü äàííûå ïî öåíòàì (1/100 òîíà) Ó òåáÿ ïîëó÷àåøñÿ N "ñòîáëèêîâ". Ñîðèòèðóåøü è áåðåøü âåðõíèå M çíà÷åíèé (ñ ìàêñèìàëüíîé àìëèòóäîé). Âîò òåáå è îñíîâíîé òîí, âîò òåáå è ãàðìîíèêè
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêóþ îïåðàöèîíêó Âû èñïîëüçóåòå
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2010 19:41 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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>Äåëàåøü ñâåðòêó (äîáèâàÿ íóëÿìè ñâåðõó, åñëè èñõîäíàÿ ðàçðÿäíîñòü ìåíüøå) -> ïîëó÷àåøü ÷àñòîòíîå ðàïðåäåëåíèå. > >êëàñòåðèçóåøü/óñðåäíÿåøü äàííûå ïî öåíòàì (1/100 òîíà) >Ó òåáÿ ïîëó÷àåøñÿ N "ñòîáëèêîâ". Ñîðèòèðóåøü è áåðåøü âåðõíèå M çíà÷åíèé (ñ ìàêñèìàëüíîé àìëèòóäîé). Âîò òåáå è îñíîâíîé òîí, âîò òåáå è ãàðìîíèêè > ß òàê è äåëàë. Èãðàëñÿ è ñ ýòèì. Ïðîáëåìà â òîì, ÷òî, íàïðèìåð, íîòà Äî 1 îêòàâû îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò Äî-äèåç ìåíåå ÷åì íà 2 Ãåðöà. ×òîáû ñäåëàòü ðàçðåøåíèå â 1 Ãåðö, íàäî ìàññèâ ñäåëàòü áîëüøîãî ðàçìåðà - ïåðôîðìàíñ óïàäåò. À ìíå íàäî ðåàë òàéì. Äà è ñ òàêèì ðàçðåøåíèåì äëÿ íèçêèõ òîíîâ î ñîòûõ, öåíòàõ, ãîâîðèòü âîîáùå íå ïðèõîäèòñÿ. Òàì õîòÿ-áû ïîëóòîí ïðàâèëüíî îïðåäåëèòü. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêóþ îïåðàöèîíêó Âû èñïîëüçóåòå
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2010 19:48 |
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ã.Âëàäèìèð
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Æåñòÿíùèê , â ðåàë-òàéìå ðàáîòàåò Àíòàðåç, è óñïåâàåò. Àíòàðåç Àâòîòþí ýòî âèðòóàëüíûé àíàëîã òàêîãî æå àâòîòþíà æåëåçíîãî, ýòî îäèí èç ñàìûõ èçâåñòíûõ ïðèáîðîâ, ìíîãèå èñïîëíèòåëè èìåþò åãî äëÿ æèâîé ðàáîòû, ñíà÷àëà áûë æåëåçíûé ïðèáîð à ïîòîì óæå ñîôò. Åñòü åùå ãàðìîíàéçåðû ãäå ïðîèñõîäèò ðàñêëàäêà ñèãíàëà ÷àñòîòíî, ò.å. ïðîãðàììèðóåøü ëþáîé èíòåðâàë, íàïðèìåð, Ðîçåíáàóì èñïîëüçóåò òàêîé ïðèáîð â ïåñíå "Àó" íà êîíöåðòàõ. Âñ¸ ýòî äàëåêî íå íîâîå, âñ¸ ýòî óæå äàâíî åñòü... |
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åäð¸íûòü ýò âàì íå èòèòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Êàêóþ îïåðàöèîíêó Âû èñïîëüçóåòå
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2010 20:12 |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿííûé Ìîñò áðÿêè, êðèêè
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ß íå ñïîðþ, ÷òî Àíòàðåç ðàáîòàåò. Íî àëãîðèòìàìè îíè êàê-òî íå õîòÿò äåëèòñÿ ß ñðàâíèâàë ðåçóëüòàòû àëãîðèòìîâ àâòîêîððåëÿöèè è ÁÏÔ, àâòîêîððåëÿöèÿ ðàáîòàëà íàäåæíåå. ß åå è âûáðàë. Äëÿ íà÷àëà. Ñêîðåå âñåãî Àíòàðåç èñïîëüçóåò íå ÁÏÔ â ÷èñòîì âèäå, à êàêóþ-òî åãî ìîäèôèêàöèþ. Áóäó êîïàòü... |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |
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