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Òåìà: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2009 13:41 |
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SLS3, Warwick Corvette  
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Ãîñïîäà, íàøåë îòìåííûé ïðåñåò, íî íå ìîãó äî êîíöà ðàçîáðàòüñÿ ñ íèì, ò.ê. ïðåñåò íå èç ëåãêèõ Ðå÷ü èäåò î çâóêå Dimebag'à (Pantera, âðåìåí "Reinventing the steel") . Âçÿòî ñ íåáåçûçâåñòíîãî ñàéòà . Òàì ïîêà ÷òî íèêòî âðàçóìèòåëüíî îáúÿñíèòü íå ñìîã, êàê åãî ðóëèòü, à àâòîð ïðèâåë ëèøü ñêðèíøîò ïðåñåòà è ïðîïàë . Öåïî÷êà ïîíÿòíà, ñêðèí çäåñü 1. TS' Secret 2. 6505 (âñòðîåííûé â Revalver3) 3. Voxengo Boogex 4. Izotope Ozone (ýêâàëàéçåð ) 5. Stereo widening effect (âñòðîåííûé â Revalver3). Íå ìîãó ðàçîáðàòüñÿ, ÷òî çà ìåñà-èìïóëüñ èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â Voxengo Boogex è êàê íàñòðîèòü Stereo Widening èç Izotope Ozone (òàì òàêîãî íå íàøåë, ó ìåíÿ âåðñèÿ 3). Êòî ìîæåò ïîäðîáíî îáúÿñíèòü, êàê åãî íàðóëèòü èëè âûëîæèòü ýòîò ïðåñåò? Áóäó ïðåìíîãî áëàãîäàðåí! |
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2009 14:06 |
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal 
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à ó òåáÿ ãèòàðà òàêàÿ æå, êàê Dimebag?  ß âîò ïîñìîòðåë, ó òåáÿ âðîäå áîë÷åíûé êëåíîâûé ãðèô íà îëüõå, à ó íåãî êðàñíîå äåðåâî è âêëååíûé ãðèô
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2009 13:07 |
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SLS3, Warwick Corvette
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hrg, àâòîð ïðåñåòà èñïîëüçîâàë Gibson Les Paul with EMGs 85/60. Îò ãèòàðû çâóê çàâèñèò êîíå÷íî, ÿ íå ñïîðþ, íî õàðàêòåð çâóêà âñ¸ ðàâíî äîëæåí áûòü ïðèìåðíî òàêîé æå. p.s: ñòðàííî, ññûëü ñî çâóêîì ïðåñåòà ñòàëà áèòàÿ, ïðèâîæó åùå ðàç. |
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2009 23:34 |
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal
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âà-ïåðâûõ, ïî ññûëêå èäåò ìèêñ, à íå ãîëàÿ ãèòàðà. Áàñ è áàðàáàñû ñèëüíî äîáàâëÿþò ê çâóêó ãèòàðû âà-âòàðûõ, åñëè äàæå òû óçíàåøü âåñü ïóòü îáðàáîòêè äî ïîñëåäíåé ìåëî÷è, òåáå ýòî ìàëî ïîìîæåò, èáî: ðóêè, ãèòàðà, êîììóòàöèÿ, çâóêîâóõà, îáðàáîòêè â ìèêñå. Òàê ÷òî ðàçáåðèñü, çà÷åì â ýòîé öåïî÷êå íóæåí êàæäûé ïðèáîð, à ïîòîì ýêñïåðèìåíòèðóé ÇÛ Èñïóëüñ ïî çâóêó íàïîìèíàåò Ìàðøàëîâñêèé êàáèíåò ñ ãðèíáåêàìè. >Stereo Widening Multiband Stereo Imaging Òîëüêî îïÿòü æå - áåç çíàíèÿ ÷òî è çà÷åì êðóòèòü è íîðìàëüíîãî ìîíèòîðèíãà - òðàòà âðåìåíè
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2009 01:02 |
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SLS3, Warwick Corvette
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hrg, ñïàñèáî, ÷òî îòêëèêíóëñÿ, íî íå íàäî äåëàòü èç ìåíÿ ïèîíåðà, ÿ ïðåäñòàâëåíèå èìåþ î çàïèñè, ñâåäåíèè, ìàñòåðèíãå è ò.ä. Ïðî ðèòì-ñåêöèþ, ðóêè, çâóêîâóõó - ýòî òîæå îòäåëüíàÿ èñòîðèÿ, âñ¸ ýòî ïîíÿòíî. È çàìå÷ó, ÷òî íà ñàéòå guitarampmodeling.com ëþäè äåëàþò óïîð íå íà ÷óäåñà îáðàáîòêè, à íà ãèòàðó. Êñòàòè, ñ ÷åãî òû ðåøèë, ÷òî ñåìïë îòìàñòèðîâàí? Äóìàþ, ÷òî àâòîð âñåãî ëèøü íîðìàëüíî ñâ¸ë âñå èíñòðóìåíòû. Íàñ÷åò èìïóëüñà - â ñêðèíå âèäíî, ÷òî ïîäãðóæåí guitarhack mesa impulse, íî áåç êîíêðåòíûõ ïîÿñíåíèé. Ïîãóãëèâ, íàø¸ë GuitarHack Mesa Trad Quad Between/Centre/Edge, íî õàðàêòåð çâóêà èíîé  Ïðî ðàñøèðèòåëü ñòåðåîáàçû ÿ çíàþ. Òîãäà ñòàâëþ âîïðîñ êîíêðåòíåå: ãäå â Multiband Stereo Imaging íàéòè òàêèå íàñòðîéêè "1.0 boost from 500 to 1.500, 2 boost from 1. 500 to onwards" ??? |
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2009 01:19 |
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal
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>Íàñ÷åò èìïóëüñà - â ñêðèíå âèäíî, ÷òî ïîäãðóæåí guitarhack mesa impulse, íî áåç êîíêðåòíûõ ïîÿñíåíèé. Ïîãóãëèâ, íàø¸ë GuitarHack Mesa Trad Quad Between/Centre/Edge, íî õàðàêòåð çâóêà èíîé Ó ìåíÿ åñòü ñëåäóþùèå èñïóëüñû ãèòàðêàõà. Åñëè íàäî - âûëîæó D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\1 D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\JJ Powertube Impulses D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\Louder JJ Powertube Impulses Full Set Straight D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\Louder JJ Powertube Impulses Samples D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\Multiple Fredman, Straight and 45 D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\Original 3 Impulses D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\Single Fredman Style and Sneap Edge D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\JJ Powertube Impulses\\GuitarHack JJ BBAE 0.wav D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\JJ 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Sneap Edge\\EDGE -1 I Inch ala Sneap pic.wav D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\Single Fredman Style and Sneap Edge\\Fredman Angled.wav D:\\Music\\Impulses\\Amps\\GuitarHacks Impulses ALL\\GuitarHacks Impulses\\Single Fredman Style and Sneap Edge\\Fredman Straight.wav >Ïðî ðàñøèðèòåëü ñòåðåîáàçû ÿ çíàþ. Òîãäà ñòàâëþ âîïðîñ êîíêðåòíåå: ãäå â Multiband Stereo Imaging íàéòè òàêèå íàñòðîéêè "1.0 boost from 500 to 1.500, 2 boost from 1. 500 to onwards" ??? Ùàñ ïîä ðóêîé Îçîíà íåò, ïèøó ïî ïàìÿòè Äåëàåøü 3 ïîëîñû: Ïåðâàÿ äî 500, âòîðàÿ 500-1500 Ãö, òðåòüÿ -1500 -20000. Íàñêîëüêî ïîäíèìàòü - òóò õç
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2009 13:05 |
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Ìîñêâà Jackson SLS3, Warwick Corvette
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Ïàñèá! Ñ ðàñøèðåíèåì ñòåðåîáàçû áîëåå-ìåíåå ïîíÿòíî, ïîñìîòðþ. Õîòÿ, âïðèíöèïå, ýòî äàëåêî íå ñàìûé âàæíûé ìîìåíò â öåïè =) Ïåðå÷èñëåííûå èìïóëüñû íàøåë òóò . Âîò ýòî ñàìàÿ âàæíàÿ äåòàëü, ïîäîáðàòü íóæíûé èìïóëüñ
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2009 21:21 |
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Ðåáÿòà, ñòûäíî ïðèçíàòüñÿ, íî íèêîãäà íå ïîëüçîâàëñÿ èìïóëüñàìè êàáèíåòîâ, à ìîæåòå ïîïîäðîáíåå, êàê ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ è ñ ÷åì êóøàòü? | |
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Âîçìîæíî, âû ðàíüøå î ÷åì-òî ñïîðèëè. Òåïåðü îí àâòîìàòîì ïëîõî èãðàåò! ( Mike M ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2009 22:47 |
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Ìîñêâà Ovation, Spector, Musicman, Genelec, Fractal
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>Ðåáÿòà, ñòûäíî ïðèçíàòüñÿ, íî íèêîãäà íå ïîëüçîâàëñÿ èìïóëüñàìè êàáèíåòîâ, à ìîæåòå ïîïîäðîáíåå, êàê ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ è ñ ÷åì êóøàòü? Ñòàâèøü ëþáîé èìïóëüñíûé ðåâåð â èíñåðò. ß þçàþ SIR2, åñòü áåñïëàòíûé Voxengo Boogex. Êà÷àåøü èìïóëüñû ãèòàðíûõ êàáèíåòîâ. Çàãðóæàåøü èìïóëüñ â ðåâåð. dry - 0%, wet -100%. Ïðåøøñÿ
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Òîëüêî âçÿë áîåö ãèòàðó, ñðàçó âèäíî - ãàðìîíèñò!
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2009 01:04 |
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Âîçìîæíî, âû ðàíüøå î ÷åì-òî ñïîðèëè. Òåïåðü îí àâòîìàòîì ïëîõî èãðàåò! ( Mike M ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2009 01:33 |
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adamra, áëèí, à íàôèãà ýòî òåáå? Òû æ íåïëîõî àïïàðàòîì çàòàâàðåí, âðîäå áû. Îõîòà òåáå ñîôòîâûå èñêàæåíèÿ êîïèòü. Ýòî õîðîøî ïðèìåíÿòü êàäà ïèøåøü ãèòàðêó â ëèíèþ, è òî, åñëè ÷åñòíî, ñ ìèêðîôîííûì ñú¸ìîì íèêàêîãî ñðàâíåíèÿ.
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åäð¸íûòü ýò âàì íå èòèòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Revalver III preset - Pantera sound
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2009 07:25 |
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Ëåíèíãðàä ìóçëîèä ðó÷íîé
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À âàñ íå ñìóùàåò ÷òî õàðàêòåð çåðíà äà èçëèøíèé ñðåç âåðõà äàëåêè îò çâóêà Äàèìáåãà, ÿ ïðî ïðèìåð â ïåðâûõ ñîîáùåíèÿõ? È äåëî íå â òîì ÷òî ñûãðàíî íà LP à íå íà Dean, ñàìà öåïî÷êà â ñâîåé ñóòè äàëåêà îò çâóêà Randall. |
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Ïðîôåññèîíàë-ýòî òîò êòî ëåãêî óáåæäàåò ïî÷òè âñåõ, â òîì ÷òî ëàæà - ýòî õóäîæåñòâåííûé ïðè¸ì
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