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Òåìà: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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Ðàññêàæèòå, êòî èç âàñ êàêóþ ìóçûêó ñëóøàë ðàíüøå, è ïî÷åìó âû âñå-òàêè íà ìåòàë ïåðåøëè??? | |
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Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 22:15 |
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âñþ ñîçíàòåëüíóþ æèçíü ñëóøàë ìåòàë. íó êîãäà â ñàäèêå áûë Ìåäýí Òîêèí ñëóøàë)) |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 22:42 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
à ÿ íèêîãäà íå çàöèêëèâàëñÿ íà îäíîì ÷åì-òî - ñëóøàë è King Crimson, è Morbid Angel... â 6 êëàññå åùå | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 22:47 |
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êñòàòè, âîïðîñ íà çàñûïêó - çíàåøü ëè òû, Àñàðàäåë, êàêàÿ ëþáèìàÿ ãðóïïà ó Ôåíðèçà? | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 23:13 |
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Ìîñêâà Vigier Excess 4str. |
ðàíüøå ñëóøàë Ýðèêà Êëåïòîíà, Ñòèíãà, Ëóè Àðìñòðîíãà. Íî àâòîð òåìû ïî ìîåìó ñòðàííóþ ôîðìóëèðîâêó çàäàë))) ×òî çíà÷èò ïåðåéòè íà ìåòàë? ß íàïðèìåð íå òîëüêî òÿæåëûé ðîê ñëóøàþ, õîòÿ â îñíîâíîì êîíå÷íî åãî. À èç õîðîøåé èíñòðóìåíòàëüíîé ìóçûêè ìîãó ïåðåâàðèòü ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå. |
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Çäåñü ìîãëà áûòü âàøà ðåêëàìà....
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 23:16 |
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Ìîñêâà Áàðàáàíû |
Íó ñôîðìóëèðóé òîãäà òåìó ïî-ñâîåìó. | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 23:21 |
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Ìîñêâà Vigier Excess 4str. |
Thomas Ïðîñòî âûõîäèò òàê, áóäòî ìû ñëóøàëè ÷òî òî, à ïîòîì âñå ïðîêëÿëè, áðîñèëè, è ñòàëè ñëóøàòü òîëüêî ìåòàë òàêèå ñëó÷àè âåäü ðåäêè, îñîáåííî ñðåäè ìóçûêàíòîâ... |
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Çäåñü ìîãëà áûòü âàøà ðåêëàìà....
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 23:28 |
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Ìîñêâà Áàðàáàíû |
Ìíå ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî, ñëóøàëè ëè âû ðàíüøå êàêèå-íèòü äðóãèå íàïðàâëåíèÿ êðîìå òÿæåëîé ìóçûêè. ß âîò ðàíüøå âîîáùå òîëüêî êëàññè÷åñêóþ ìóçûêó óâàæàë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2004 23:31 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
ÿ âñå âðåìÿ âñïîìèíàþ â òàêèõ ñëó÷àÿõ îäèí íîìåð æóðíàëà Nordic Vision, êîòîðûé èçäàâàëñÿ ôèðìîé Ñàòèðà Moonfog. òàì êàê ðàç Ôåíðèç ðåöåíçèè ïèñàë â áîëüøèõ êîëè÷åñòâàõ. òàê âîò, òàì ëó÷øèì àëüáîìîì ìåñÿöà áûë êàê-òî ïðèçíàí àëüáîì The Cure ("Pornograffiti", åñëè ïàìÿòü ìíå íå èçìåíÿåò). à êîãäà æóðíàë çàâàëèëè ïèñüìàìè ñ âîïðîñàìè íåäîóìåííûå ÷èòàòåëè, ìîë, "êàê òàê, ëó÷øèé ìåòàëëè÷åñêèé àëüáîì ìåñÿöà - The Cure????, âû òàì ÷òî, ñîâñåì óæå!" - ðåäàêöèÿ îòâåòèëà - "à ìû ÷òî-ëè âèíîâàòû, ÷òî â ýòîì ìåñÿöå âñå ìåòàëüíûå àëüáîìû îêàçàëèñü õóæå The Cure? ìû æå äîëæíû áûòü îáúåêòèâíû!" | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 00:06 |
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Ìóíôîã íå ïîëíîñòüþ ñàòèðîâñêèé, åìó ïðåíàäëåäèò òîëüêî îêîëî ïîëîâèíû, êñòàòè Ôåíðèç òîæå îäèí èç äåðæàòåëåé Ìóíôîãà. | |
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Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 00:11 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
> 2-Ñêâîçíÿê Bathory íåà! Belcanto ïîï-ãðóïïà èç Íîðâåãèè |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå îí òàê ñêàçàë â èíòåðâüþ 99 ãîäà | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 22:01 |
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Ôåíðèç âñåãäà ãîâîðèë ÷òî Áàòîðè åãî ëþáèìàÿ ãðóïïà! È ÷òî îíè î÷åíü ñèëüíî ïîâëèÿëè íà íåãî è ÄÒ ñîîòâåòñòâåííî. Êñòàòè íîâûé àëüáîì ÄÒ ïîñâÿù¸í Êâîðòîíó.Òàê ÷òî âñå ñëóõè î ïîï-ãðóïïàõ ÿâíî ïðåóâåëè÷åíû..òû õîòü áû ññûëêó äàâàë ÷òî ëè... | |
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ñêâîçíÿê ïðîëåòåë â ôîðòî÷êó... â ïðîëåòå âñìûñëå)) | |
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Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 22:10 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
äà ó ìåíÿ íåòó ññûëêè, ýòî êàê ðàç ïî-ìîåìó â Nordic Vision êàêîì-òî îí ãîâîðèë. ùàñ ïîèùó, ìîæåò åñòü â íåòå ãäå-òî óïîìèíàíèÿ î ìóç. ïðåäïî÷òåíèÿõ Ôåíðèçà. | |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
http://valhalla.stillclouds.com/ravendark.htm | |
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Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 22:31 |
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"Åñòü ñâåäåíèÿ, ÷òî î÷åíü íåïëîõàÿ dream/dance-ãðóïïà BEL CANTO èç Íîðâåãèè ÿâëÿåòñÿ îäíîé èç ëþáèìûõ ãðóïï Fenriz’a" - î÷åíü îáúåêòèâíàÿ èíôà...õîòÿ ñòàòüÿ íå ñàìàÿ ïëîõàÿ | |
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Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 22:40 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
ÿ ïèñàë àâòîðó ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó â ñâîå âðåìÿ, òàê êàê òîæå áûë óäèâëåí - íî îí ïðèâåë äîâîëüíî äîñòîâåðíûå àðãóìåíòû. ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ èõ ïîä ðóêîé óæå íåò, íî ÷åëîâåê çàñëóæèâàåò äîâåðèÿ, ÿ òåáÿ óâåðÿþ. òàêæå åñòü èíôîðìàöèÿ ÷òî Ôåíðèç äèäæåéñòâóåò â ñâîáîäíî îò Darkthrone è Isengard âðåìÿ. ÿ ýòî ñîáñòâåííî ê ÷åìó ãîâîðèë-òî - ÷òî äàæå îáðàçåö òðó-áëýê-ìåòàëëèñòà ñëóøàåò ñàìóþ ðàçíîîáðàçíóþ ìóçûêó, à íå çàìûêàåòñÿ |
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Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 22:46 |
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ÎÏßÒÜ!!!! Òû çíàåøü ÷òî çíà÷èò ÷òî îí äè-äæåéñòâóåò??? Êàêèå ïëàñòèíêè è ãäå îí êðóòèò??? | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 22:54 |
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ÕÀÕÀÕÀ!!!!!!!!!!!!! ñêâîçíÿê, òû ìåíÿ ïðîñòî óáèë ñâîåé íå êîìïåòåíòíîñòüþ!!!! ïðîñòî ñìåøíî ÷åñññññëîâî. Íà ñ÷åò äèäæåéñòâà òû ìåíÿ î÷åíü ñèëüíî óáèë, õàõà!! DJ Fenriz êðóòèò îëäîâûé òðýøíÿê, à íå òî ÷òî òû ïîäóìàë "ñâîáîäíî îò Darkthrone è Isengard âðåìÿ" îí ñâîáîäåí îò Èçåíãàðäà óæå äàâíî åñëè òû íå çíàë, äà è Äàðêòðîíîì íå îñîáî çàãðóæåí))) 2 ðåïåòèöèè + ðåêîðä ñåññèÿ(âòîðàÿ ðåïà êàê ðàç ïåðåä íåé) â ãîä ýòî ãèãàíòñêèé çàãðóç)))))))) |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 23:12 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
õå-õå. íó äà, òðýø è áëýê ðàííèé êðóòèò äåéñòâèòåëüíî ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ îñòàëüíîãî, ïî÷èòàéòå ýòî, êîìïåòåíòíûå ìîè E: Other than Hate Them, which would you say is your favourite? F: I don't have favourite albums. I don't even have favourite songs. I have favourite riffs, or parts that are especially working out well. It's always been like that. DARKTHRONE is basically not about songwriting, like, whatever, BOB DYLAN. It's about putting riffs together, and analyzing riffs for people that should listen to the music. It's always cool, we always have a fun time sitting down with someone saying "this riff is inspired from there", and "this riff is inspired from there" and people go "oh, really?" and I thought everyone heard, all the time. Like, one of the songs, number 2 on the last album, it'd be like really easy to say, that's the HELLHAMMER, that's the HELLHAMMER, that's the MOT?RHEAD, you know? But no-one ever mentions it, you know! (laughter) E: No, because when you use those influences, you know, it all ends up sounding very DARKTHRONE. F: That's news to us, because we never said that, or I never said that we did original stuff anyway back in the day. We just started up in '91, playing stuff that we were listening to, like BATHORY and CELTIC FROST. We always just wanted to get people to listen to that again. Just like I did with NEPTUNE TOWERS, I just wanted people to start listening to Klaus Schulze. E: Right, I will try to find it! So, what's your current playlist, then? F: Current playlist? E: Yeah. F: Oh, it's so much, man...Let's see: DJ ASSAULT from Detroit, DJ SNEAK, always... Bruce Springsteen from the 70's, I think we can do with, let's say, NIFELHEIM too, their latest album, and maybe number five, what shall I say? ORCUSTUS from Norway. E: So, you listen to, basically, a lot of stuff that's not metal at all. F: Maybe fifty or sixty different styles, or sub-genres. E: Don't you ever feel that it's hard to, you know, not incorporate those kinds of influences into DARKTHRONE? F: No, that's the great thing! Other people go out, start a band, hear some techno they like and then they suddenly start using that, but in DARKTHRONE we always listen to waaay different stuff, but DARKTHRONE is such a small [...] that nothing seeps into it, you know? That would be disgusting, that would be going to the same mistake that everyone else has done. (laughter) I'm not going to paint myself into that corner. http://www.royalcarnage.com/interviews/darkthrone/int_fenriz.htm |
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Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2004 23:15 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
My favorite compilation cd would have to be either the "Moonfog 2000" release, or my "Millenium '80s New Wave Party" cd. You really can't go wrong with 'Come on Eileen' by Dexy's Midnight Runners, 'The Safety Dance' by Men Without Hats or even Gary Numan's 'Cars.' Am I the only metalhead who likes 80's new wave hits? I have SEVERAL 80's compilations of course. 'If I Was' by Midge Ure is one of the best tracks from the pop 80's, also 'Dancing (danzig) with Tears in my Eyes' by Ultravox. 'Cars' by Gary Numan is also excellent, but a bit overplayed.. I tend to like the typical European 80's sound compared to the American, cuz hair spray rock and excessive guitar solos held a hand over much of the American stuff, while the synth sound was stronger in Europe. That doesn't mean I like synth sound in metal, though! http://www.statikmajik.com/gd/interviews/darkthrone_fenriz.php |
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íó òàê íèêòî è íå ñïîðèë ÷òî îí ñëóøàò ýëåêòðîíùèíó. òû ñàì ñåáå âûäóìàë ÷òî ÿ ýòî îòâåðãàþ. à òî ÷òî áûëî íàïèñàíî òîáîé äî ýòîãî äåéñòâèòåëüíî íå êîìïåòåíòíî | |
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Âîò è ðàçëè÷èå ìåæäó èãðàþùèìè òðó-áëýê è ïîç¸ðàìè - ïîç¸ð óñëûøàë ÷òî-òî íà ñòîðîíå è äàâàé òàùèòü ýòî â ñâîé íîâûé àëüáîì.Òàê ÷òî â ýòîì èíòåðâüþ è ïðèäðàòüñÿ íå ê ÷åìó...À òî ÷òî îí ñëóøàåò ýòî åãî ëè÷íîå äåëî | |
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ëàäíî, âîò èç ýòîãî èíòåðâüþ ïî-ìîåìó î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî DJ Ôåíðèç-òàêè èãðàåò òåõíî-ñåòû Maelstrom: Do you think you’ll ever release a techno record? Fenriz: No. When you start playing metal (and I’ve been listening to metal since I was three and listening to a Uriah Heep record. When I was five, I was looking at Mick Box on the cover. He had lots of belts. I made belts out of paper and stood in front of the record player listening to that. I never found anything as heavy as that until “The Thing that Should not Be” of Metallica, and that was 12 years later.) You sort of think, “how the hell do they play this shit? How do they get this sound?” Then you start playing metal yourself, and you start to lose the magic. It’s gone. I started getting into techno in ‘92, all that Chicago house stuff. Then I thought, “this is gonna be huge.” After three years, I was still into it. I thought, “ok, I’m not gonna ruin this magic as well.” I learned just how to work the turntables. Maelstrom: Wow. I can totally connect with what you’re saying about ruining the magic. It reminds me of some thing I read once about a little boy being able to run along the edge of a fence only because he didn’t understand the principle of gravity. I remember you getting animated over how there’s a techno underground and how people don’t understand that. Fenriz: Yeah, when I say to metal people that I listen to techno, they go, “oh, yeah! I really like Gabba!” It has no soul in it. They don’t understand at all. I don’t blame them, though. Maelstrom: So what are you talking about, then? Tell us about stuff you really like. There is some good techno out there. I don’t know if it’s correct to consider Aphex Twin techno, or if it’s really good, but I think it is. Fenriz: Yeah, well, you have to call them techno, but he’s really left field, what we call that style. I listen to fifteen of the sub-genres of what we’ll call techno, but that also includes house. When I DJ, I play between 20-25 styles. http://www.maelstrom.nu/ezine/interview_iss14_9.php |
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ýýýýý.... ìîæåò áûòü íî íà ïðåçåíòàöèè â íîðâåãèè âòîðîãî àëüáîìà Khold Âñþ íî÷ü Ôåíðèç êðóòèë îëäîâûé òðýø. ýòî ïî ñëîâàì î÷åâèäöà, êîòîðûé ÁÛË(âåðíåå áûëà) íà ýòîì êîíöåðòå | |
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äà óæ çäåñü òðóäíî ñïîðèòü...ñ ýòîãî èíòåðâüþ íàäî áûëî íà÷èíàòü, õîòÿ ÿ ñâî¸ ìíåíèå îòíîñèòåëüíî ôåíðèçà íå èçìåíèë... ýýýõõõ....âåç¸ò æå âñÿêèì....êõîëüä, ôåíðèç, íîðâåãèÿ......((((((((((((((( |
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"ýýýõõõ....âåç¸ò æå âñÿêèì....êõîëüä, ôåíðèç, íîðâåãèÿ......(((((((((((((((" âî-âî |
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íó ÷òî ãîñïîäà, çàáåéòå áîëüøóùèé ãâîçäü â êðûøêó ãðîáà ñâîåé êîìïåòåíòíîñòè | |
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> õîòÿ ÿ ñâî¸ ìíåíèå îòíîñèòåëüíî ôåíðèçà íå èçìåíèë... à ÷åãî åãî ìåíÿòü-òî... ÿ òîëüêî â ëó÷øóþ ñòîðîíó áû èçìåíèë - ÷åëîâåê íå çàöèêëåííûé, è ïðèòîì ïîäîíîê ïîëíûé - ñòåáåòñÿ ïîñòîÿííî è ðæåò |
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à òû ìîæåøü êóïèòü ïèðîæîê ñ êîòÿòàìè â íàãðàäó çà öåííóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, ïðîñâÿòèòåëü òû íàø! | |
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"çàáåéòå áîëüøóùèé ãâîçäü â êðûøêó ãðîáà ñâîåé êîìïåòåíòíîñòè" ñ ÷åãî åíò? | |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
äàâàé, äàâàé, èðîíèçèðóé íàä ñàìèì ñîáîé | |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
> ñêâîçíÿê, òû ìåíÿ ïðîñòî óáèë ñâîåé íå êîìïåòåíòíîñòüþ!!!! ïðîñòî ñìåøíî ÷åñññññëîâî. Íà ñ÷åò äèäæåéñòâà òû ìåíÿ î÷åíü ñèëüíî óáèë, õàõà!! DJ Fenriz êðóòèò îëäîâûé òðýøíÿê, à íå òî ÷òî òû ïîäóìàë | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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íó òàê îëäîâûé òðýøíÿê îí òîæ êðóòèò))))))) | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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Äà âû ÷å ðåàëüíî ïîâåðèëè â òî, ÷òî Ôåíðèç çàãîíÿåòñÿ òåõíî?????????????? Âû ÷å??????????? Äà ýòîæ ïèàð ÷èñòîé âîäû!!!!!!!!!!! Îí ñïåöîì ýòî ãîâîðèò è ñòåáåòñÿ íàä æóðíàëèñòèêàìè, ðàñïóñêàÿ ñëóõè âîêðóã ñâîåé ïåðñîíû, ÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Âñïîìíèòå ãðàôà! |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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ñ áóðçóìîì íå÷åãî ñðàâíèâàòü îí ïóñòîìåëÿ. à ôåíðèç ðåàëüíî ñëóøàåò òåõíî, ýòî óæå èçâåñòíî äàâíî-äàâíî | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
íó òàê è òî ÷òî ÿ ïîäóìàë êðóòèò | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
>Îí ñïåöîì ýòî ãîâîðèò è ñòåáåòñÿ íàä æóðíàëèñòèêàìè, ðàñïóñêàÿ ñëóõè âîêðóã ñâîåé ïåðñîíû, ÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀÕÀ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Âñïîìíèòå ãðàôà! Storm, ñîãëàñíî òâîèì âîççðåíèÿìè ýòî ðàâíîñèëüíî îòêàçó îò îòâåòñòâåííîñòè çà ñâîè ñëîâà |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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2 Ñêâîçíÿê: íå òåáå ñóäèòü îá îòâåòñòâåííîñòè çà ñâîè ñëîâà. | |
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Òåìà: Re: À êòî ÷òî ñëóøàë???
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã |
îê, ïóñòü äðóãèå ñóäÿò | |
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