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Òåìà: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 01:45 |
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À ñìûñë? Deep-û íå êàòÿò , âîò Öåïïåëèíû -ýòî äðóãîå äåëî | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 11:04 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå  
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Òèïà ñáîð ãðóïïû? Èëè ÷åãî? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 11:23 |
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êîãî è êóäà äîïóñòèì??? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 18:14 |
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Deep Purple - ãðóïïà âûøå âñåõ íàøèõ ìíåíèé è ò.ï. Ýòî áîãè ñâîåãî ðîäà. Îáñóæäåíèå èõ òâîð÷åñòâà íå èìååò ñìûñëà, åñëè ýòî íå êàñàåòñÿ òåìû êîìó êàêîé àëüáîì íðàâèòñÿ áîëüøå. È íå âçäóìàéòå òóò óñòðîèòü ñïîð "ãîâíî-íå ãîâíî". Ýòî áóäåò ñàìîé âåëèêîé ãëóïîñòüþ... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 18:27 |
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íå ïîíÿòíû íàçâàíèÿ òîïà))) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 19:36 |
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ðîê ýòî î÷åíü îáøèðíîå ïîíÿòèå. È êëàññèêà â íåì ó êàæäîãî ñâîÿ. à êàêîé ñìûñë çàëîæåí â íàçâàíèå òîïà? |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 20:01 |
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à ñìûñë èõ îáñóæäàòü? ïî-ìîåìó è òàê âñ¸ ÿñíî. îòöû îíè è â àôðèêå îòöû. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 21:13 |
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Of the three alleged 'fathers of heavy metal' (Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple), Deep Purple are probably the least well-known, at least in the West. This is a great shame. On one hand, this is certainly understandable: Deep Purple came a bit later than both the Zepsters and Sabbath (I mean, their first album was released before both Zep and Sabbath were even formed, but they didn't really acquire their image as 'heavy metal gods' until after In Rock, released already after both Zep's and Sabbath' grandiose debuts), and seemed to say and offer much less than both of these bands. In retrospect, however, it slowly becomes obvious that Deep Purple were just entirely different: they never exactly fitted into the standard 'heavy metal' pattern. Where Led Zep represented the genre's 'kingship', with their mystical, overblown epics, occasional ventures into the world of the occult, their blatant cock-rock attitudes and a pretentiousness that could hardly find any equals; where Black Sabbath took the genre to its ultimate 'height', to the point where it was already verging on the border of gross, with practically nothing but Tony Iommi's masterful riffs to save them from a total downfall into gothic banality; where ninety-nine percent of their followers were stupid and trashy, soon to enter the wastebin of history; where it was simply like this - Deep Purple were never stupid or blatant enough to pretend that what they were playing was something bigger than just rock'n'roll with a little bit more distortion than usual. They were just your basic 'rock-on-type' of band, with Ian Gillan screaming out simple lyrics that were neither too ambitious nor too incomprehensible, but usually up to the point and rarely silly, and Ritchie Blackmore cutting out one memorable riff after another. They had one more thing about them, too: they had speed. Without the slightest doubt, Deep Purple were the speediest, flashiest hard rock/heavy metal band of the early Seventies - and it's no slight coincidence that both punk and speed and thrash metal owe a great deal to Purple, and not to Led Zep or Sabbath. That's not to say that the band didn't have its share of slow songs - they did, and some of them were quite impressive, but it's certainly speed and flashiness that's their most impressive trademark. For all I know, songs like 'Speed King' or 'Highway Star', as performed by the original band, have simply no analogies in modern music: they're breathtaking. Ritchie Blackmore is often credited as one of the best guitar players in existence, and, while this statement is certainly exaggerated, I'd no doubt say that he's at least the best fast guitar player in existence. And when they play, this is just Rock And Roll. You know? No ambitions! No overgoofiness! And, above all, no Satanism or mysticism, which might be the best thing about the band: a heavy metal band that never flirted with the occult, concentrating on simple life's problems instead. Geez, didn't Gillan play the part of Jesus in Andrew Lloyd Webber's opera? It would sure be an embarrassing task to sing about Lucifer later on! Over all this comes one serious objection: Deep Purple are a band that's definitely limited in style. Apart from their early excursions into the realm of flower power and even progressive rock (which, by the way, were quite far from uninteresting - believe it or not, these guys weren't the worst hipsters around), they know only one style which they overabuse to death: the style of headbanging riffing and breathtaking soloing over soulful screaming or raucous roaring. But after all, we're talking heavy metal here - a genre where bands do not usually tend to experiment much. And Deep Purple did try to experiment from time to time, with elements from classical (Jon Lord's organ passages) to gospel ('Child In Time') to country-rock ('Anyone's Daughter'). Okay, they didn't experiment that much - but neither did Black Sabbath, a band that's even more limited in style, but much more popular. And moreover, they were always conscious of the fact and even ashamed of it (AC/DC, take heed!): after all, Gillan and Glover left the band exactly under the pretext that it did not make any progression, instead remaking the same record over and over again. The band did not last too long after that - two years of endless change of personal and they called it quits. Of course, the band did everything to spoil its reputation by having at least three or four comebacks since the mid-Eighties, some of which did not feature Gillan and some did not feature Blackmore. Originally, I thought all their 'reunions' were nothing but their wastes of tape and our wastes of money, but House Of Blue Light managed to get me intrigued, so I guess I'll be looking up more of these 'late-period' records in the future. Lineup (1968): Mark I - Rod Evans, vocals, Nic Simper, bass, Ritchie Blackmore, guitar, Jon Lord, organ, Ian Paice, drums. The first two were sacked in 1970, after three albums, a failed career in Britain and a decision to 'broaden the horizons'. Mark II - same as above, but instead of Evans and Simper, Ian Gillan - vocals, Roger Glover - bass. This is usually considered the finest 'mark' of the band, and I fully agree. Both Gillan and Glover, however, quit in 1973, replaced by David Coverdale - vocals, Glenn Hughes - bass ('Mark III'). Blackmore left, 1975, over some heated arguments with Coverdale, replaced by Tommy Bolin ('Mark V'), after which the band finally collapsed. Re-formed in the mid-Eighties, since then carried on in quite a few line-ups which I'm too tired to speak about here. Go visit the official site instead. (c) George Starostin |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.04.2005 22:52 |
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Ìîñêâà Vigier Excess 4str. 
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Ìíå ïåðïëû î÷åíü íðàâÿòñÿ, áûë íà èõ êîíöåðòå â îëèìïèéñêîì, íî âñå ðàâíî ñ÷èòàþ ÷òî ãðóïïà ñîâñåì èíîãî óðîâíÿ (â òîì ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ ÈÄÅÈ) ÷åì ñêàæåì çåïïû. Ïåðïë î÷åíü òåõíè÷íû, ìåëîäè÷íû, ãåíèàëüíûå ìóçûêàíòû, íî èì íå õâàòàåò òîé êîíöåïòóàëüíîñòè, ìèñòèêè è ïîòóñòîðîííåé ýíåðãåòèêè, ÷òî áûëà ó ËÇ... Íåêîððåêòíî èõ ñðàâíèâàòü, îíè ðàâíîâåëèêèå, íî âñå òàêè ïåðïëû áîëüøèé óïîð äåëàëè íà ñàìó ìóçûêó, à ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ èäåéíîñòè, ËÇ ðóëüíåé.... |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 03.04.2005 02:32 |
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Ìîñêâà Jackson 
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õìììì, à âåäü îí ïðàâ... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2005 18:57 |
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ß ïðîòèâ Deep Purple íè÷åãî íå èìåþ, íî ýòî ôîðóì òÿæ¸ëîé ìóçûêè!!!! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 05.04.2005 23:37 |
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Ìîñêâà Vigier Excess 4str.
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Dark_soul- ðîäíîé,à ñ êàêèì ïîð Hard Rock ïåðåñòàë áûòü òÿæåëîé ìóçûêîé? Íå íàäî ïîâòîðÿòü òó áîäÿãó, ÷òî èìåëà ìåñòî òóò íå òàê äàâíî... Òàêèå áàçàðû óæå ðåàëüíî íàïðÿãàþò, íå íðàâèòñÿ òåìà òîïèêà- íå ïèøè òóäà, çà÷åì âñå ñâîäèòü ê áàíàëüíîìó íåâåæåñòâó? |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2005 14:03 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
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ß áûë è íà Öåïïåëèíàõ â Îëèìïèéñêîì, è íà Ïåðïëàõ. Ñðàâíåíèå íå â ïîëüçó ïåðâûõ. Õîòÿ è òå è òå êðóòû, íî êàæäûé ïî ñâîåìó, òàê ÷òî íàâåðíîå èõ âàùå íåêîððåêòíî ñðàâíèâàòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 06.04.2005 17:07 |
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Ìîñêâà Vigier Excess 4str.
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R-A-Y- êàê æå òû áûë íà öåïïåëèíàõ, êîãäà ãðóïïà ðàñïàëàñü â 80ûõ ïîñëå ñìåðòè Áîíýìà?))) Ìîæåò òû íà êàêîì íèòî òðèáüþòå áûë? Òî÷íî íè÷åãî íå ïóòàåøü? |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 07.04.2005 13:21 |
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RaY - Ãûãûãû:)))) ÒÎ Spe - ýò îí â ïðîøëîé æèçíè áûë:) |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2005 11:16 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
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Ïðèåçæàëà ãîäà 3 íàçàä âñÿ áðàòèÿ âî ãëàâå ñ ïëàíòîì, íî åñåññíà íå ñ Áîíåìîì! Èãðàëè ïåñíè Öåïïåëèíîâ è èç ñâîèõ ñîëüíûõ ïðîåêòîâ. Çàë îñòàëñÿ íåäîâîëåí, èáî Ëåñòíèöó îíè òàê è íå ñûãðàëè | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2005 17:14 |
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Ìîñêâà Vigier Excess 4str.
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Òî òî è îíî, ÷òî ïðèåçæàëà íå ãðóïïà Ëåä Çåïïåëèí, âåëèêàÿ è íåïîäðàæàåìàÿ, à íåñêîëüêî óñòàëûõ ïîæèëûõ ëþäåé, êîòîðûì äëÿ ãàëî÷êè íàäî áûëî ïîñåòèòü ãîðîä ãåðîé Ìîñêâó è äàòü "êîíöåðò"... Íî ïðî ïðèåçä îñòàòêîâ ËÇ â Ìîñêâó ÿ ÷òî òî íå ñëûøàë.. À âîîáùå òî ãîäà òðè íàçàä ïðèåçæàë Ïëàíò ñî ñâîèì àëüáîìîì Dreamland, â ãðóïïå òî èç ËÇ òîëüêî Ïëàíò, à îñòàëüíûå ìîëîäûå ðåáÿòà... Ýòî ìíå èçâåñòíî òî÷íî, ìîé áàòÿ õîäèë.. |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2005 09:54 |
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Íî ÿ á ñêàçàë Ïåéäæ â ñâîè ãîäû åùå ìíîãèì âîêàëèñòàì ôîðó äàñò. À âàùå îáúÿâà áûëà: Sounds of Led Zeppelin. È ïåñíè öåïïåëèíîâñêèå îíè òî÷íî èãðàëè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 09.04.2005 12:12 |
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Ìîñêâà Vigier Excess 4str.
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Áîþñü Ïåéäæ ôîðó âîêàëèñòàì íèêîãäà íå äàñò èáî îí èãðàåò íà ãèòàðå))) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Êëàññè÷åñêè ÐÎê!!!! Äîïóñòèì DEEP PURPLE
Âðåìÿ: 22.04.2005 00:59 |
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Ìîñêâà warwick corvette std 5 str)) 
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Áëèí, âñ¸-òàêè ϸïëîâ è Öåïïåëèíîâ ñðàâíèâàòü íåêîððåêòíî... ϸïëû - õàðä ðîê. Ïðàâäà íà÷èíàÿ ñ burn ðàáîòàþò îòêðîâåííî íà ïóáëèêó è çà áàáëî... Íà÷èíàëè ïî-äðóãîìó. À Öåïïåëèíû... Ýòî ãàíæ-ðîê ÿ áû ñêàçàë )) íåìíîãî áëþç, íåìíîãî ðîê è ìíîãî ÃÀÍÆÈ èëè ÷¸ îíè òàì ïîòðåáëÿëè )) ß èõ íå ïîíèìàë äî íåäàâíåãî âðåìåíè... Ñëóøàë, äóìàë îáû÷íàÿ ãðóïïà, çàóðÿäíàÿ òàêàÿ, òèïà ðàñêðóòèëè ïðîñòî ïî ñòîïàì ϸïëîâ. À íèôèãà íà ñàìîì äåëå... Îáúÿñíèòü íå áóäó ïûòàòüñÿ... Äîñòàòî÷íî õîòÿ áû ïîñëóøàòü ïåñíè Out On The Tiles è Stairway To Heaven (òîêà öåëèêîì îáÿçàòåëüíî)). Ðèòìû íàìíîãî ñëîæíåå è âîîáùå... 
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