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Òåìà: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 28.05.2019 15:17 |
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Ï-ñê 
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Äîñòàëñÿ ìíå òóò ïî ñëó÷àþ êàáýëú midi2usb èçâåñòíîé êèòàéñêîé ôèðìû "NoName". Äàé, äóìàþ, ïîïðîáóþ åãî ïðèñïîñîáèòü. À îí ñ êîìïà â ñèíò ñèãíàëû ìèäè íîðìàëüíî ïåðåãîíÿë, ò.å çàïóñêàåøü ìèäþõó íà êîìïå, ñèíò å¸ ïî êàáåëþ âîñïðèíèìàåò è íîðìàëüíî èãðàåò. À âîò îáðàòíî, ñ ñèíòà íà êîìï ñîîáùåíèÿ âîîáùå íå ïåðåäàâàë, êàê áóäòî íåò åãî. Êëàâèøó ñèíòà æì¸øü, à íà í¸ì äàæå ëàìïî÷êà "IN" íå çàãîðàëàñü è MidiOX íå êîìïå êîìàíä íå âèäåë. Ïî÷èòàë èíòðîíåò, òàì ìíîãî âñÿêèõ ñîâåòîâ áûëî, êàê òàêîå ÷óäî ðàáîòàòü çàñòàâèòü, âñïîìíèë, ÷òî â ðàííåé ñëåñàðñêîé þíîñòè ðàäèàòîðû êîãäà-òî ïàÿë, äà è ðåøèëñÿ. Âñêðûë, ïðîòÛêàë ïàÿëüíèêîì ïîäîçðèòåëüíûå ìåñòà ïàéêè, èíòðåãèðîâàë â íåãî ïî îäíîìó ñîâåòó îïòîïàðó, ïî äðóãîìó ñîâåòó äëÿ óìîùíåíèÿ ñèãíàëà ïðèïàÿë òðàìçèñòîð 1984 ãîäà âûïóñêà, ïðèëåïèë íà ðàçíûå ìåñòà êðóòèëêè ðåçèñòîðîâ, ÷òîá ïðè ýêñïåðèìåíòèðîâàíèè ñ ïåðåïàéêîé îáû÷íûõ íå ìó÷àòüñÿ, äà è çàïóñòèë åãî. Òåïåðü ïðè íàæàòèè êëàâèø ñèíòà îãîí¸ê íà í¸ì ïðàâèëüíî ìîðãàåò, è ïðè íàæàòèè è ïðè îòïóñêàíèè. Åñëè íà ñèíòå áàðàáàíèâàíèå ñ àâòîàêêîìïàíèìåíòîì çàïóñòèòü - òîæå ïðàâèëüíî â òàêò ìîðãàåò. À âîò íà êîìï ïî usb èä¸ò êàêàÿ-òî áåëèáåðäà. Íåïðàâèëüíûå êîìàíäû èäóò. Äëÿ ïðèìåðà ïóñòèë îäèí è òîò æå midi-ïîòîê ÷åðåç game-ïîðò îáû÷íîé çâóêîâóõè (ñëåâà) è ÷åðåç midi2usb-êàáåëü (ñïðàâà) - âîò òàêàÿ ðàçíèöà. Âìåñòî ñïëîøíîãî ïîòîêà êîìàíä ïî êàíàëàì ñ 6 ïî 10 - êàáåëü ïåðåäà¸ò êàêèå-òî ëåâûå îòäåëüíûå êîìàíäû è ïî÷åìó-òî ÷åðåç êàíàë 1. Ïîñîâåòóéòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ìàñòåðà, ÷òî áû åù¸ òàêîãî-êóäà åìó ïðèïàÿòü, ÷òîáû îí îäíàêî, ðàáîòàòü ïî-ïðàâèëüíîìó íà÷àë. Ñïàñèáî.  
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http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 28.05.2019 23:25 |
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Ïî ID óñòðîéñòâà íàø¸ë åãî íàçâàíèå - QinHeng Electronics CH345 MIDI adapter - èõ, îêàçûâàåòñÿ, åù¸ è íåñêîëüêî ðàçíîâèäíîñòåé. Ïî÷èòàë îòçûâû íà áóñóðìàíñêèõ ñàéòàõ (â ïåðåâîäå): - çàøóìëåííûé ñèãíàë.. - ñïëîøíûå ïðîáëåìû.. - ïîìåíÿé íà äðóãîé.. - ...so there is no reason to buy these cheap no-name adapters  Âîò ïðî çàøóìëåííûé ñèãíàë ÷¸ò ïîõîæå çäðàâàÿ ìûñëü. Åù¸ ìûñëü ïîÿâèëàñü - ñäâèã ÷àñòîòû ìèäè 31250 Ãö êóäà-íèòü â ñòîðîíó ïðè êîíâåðòàöèè â usb. Êàê áû ñèãíàë ýòîò ðàçøóìèòü ? Êàê áû äðàéâåð ñòàíäàðòíûé âèíäóçîâûé çàñòàâèòü ïîïðîáîâàòü äëÿ ýêñïåðèìåíòà ÷àñòîòó ïðîãðàììíî òóäû-ñþäû ïîäâèãàòü ? |
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http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 29.05.2019 09:43 |
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü 
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bav9 , íå ìîðî÷üòå ñåáå ãîëîâó. êóïèòå íà àâèòî íîðìàëüíûé midi-usb êîíâåðòåð. | |
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Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 29.05.2019 10:46 |
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Êóïèòü-òî ïðîñòî, íî ìû æ ë¸ãêèõ ïóòåé íå èùåì.. 8-) |
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http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 29.05.2019 10:54 |
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
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>Êàê áû äðàéâåð ñòàíäàðòíûé âèíäóçîâûé çàñòàâèòü ïîïðîáîâàòü äëÿ ýêñïåðèìåíòà ÷àñòîòó ïðîãðàììíî òóäû-ñþäû ïîäâèãàòü ? ïðîñòî òàêèå âîïðîñû íàâîäÿò íà ìûñëü î áåñïîëåçíîñòè ìåðîïðèÿòèÿ. ÷àñòîòà îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ êîíòðîëëåðîì ïðè ðàáîòå ñî uart-èíòåðôåéñîì (midi). à êîìï ïðèíèìàåò äàííûå ïî þñá è òàì ýòà ÷àñòîòà âîîáùå íå ôèãóðèðóåò... ñêîðåå âñåãî äàííîå óñòðîéñòâî ïðîñòî íå ñêîíñòðóèðîâàíî äëÿ ðàáîòû â íàïðàâëåíèè midi->usb... âîò ÷òî íàøåë ïðè áåãëîì ïîèñêå: To summarise: The CH345 device is OK for receiving note data, as long as is it only from MIDI channel 1. It can receive discrete note data messagees from other channels but it will not accept running-status note data from other channels - they will be 'converted' to channel 1 discrete note data. But it's OK with transmitting running-status on all channels. It can transmit large SYSX blocks OK, but destroys any SYSX blocks received if greater than four data bytes (two bytes out if every six bytes are skipped). Any received running-status data (ie. from Pitch wheel/Mod wheel etc) are always converted to discrete note on/off messages for channel 1. Running-status on transmit is broken up into discrete messages. If all expected data is not received within very short timeout it pads it out and then erroneously also repeats last note event. If transmit data is incomplete it simply ignores it. |
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Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 29.05.2019 19:07 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò. 
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Åñòü òàêàÿ ïîðîäà ãóìàíîèäîâ. Ëþáèòåëè êîâûðÿòüñÿ â êàêàøêàõ. Äèâàííûå Êóëèáèíû. Âåç¸ò æå ëþäÿì. Âðåìåíè íà òàêóþ õíþ íàâàëîì. |
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Professional musician, arranger, sound engineer, sound producer
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 30.05.2019 09:32 |
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
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>Åñòü òàêàÿ ïîðîäà ãóìàíîèäîâ. Ëþáèòåëè êîâûðÿòüñÿ â êàêàøêàõ. Äèâàííûå Êóëèáèíû. >Âåç¸ò æå ëþäÿì. Âðåìåíè íà òàêóþ õíþ íàâàëîì. ÚÚ , åñòü òàêèå ñîñòîÿíèÿ ïñèõèêè, êîãäà èç-çà ñòðåññà è íåóäà÷ â ñîáñòâåííîé æèçíè ëþáîå ÷óæîå ìíåíèå, ëþáîïûòñòâî èëè îøèáêà âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ ñ íåíàâèñòüþ è àãðåññèåé. ôó òàêèì áûòü. ìèð âàì! 
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Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 30.05.2019 17:29 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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ÏîëÏèíê , Ìèìî. ß íå îá ýòîì. Ó÷èòåñü çðèòü â êîðåíü. | |
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Professional musician, arranger, sound engineer, sound producer
https://soundcloud.com/user-931212328 |
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Âðåìÿ: 30.05.2019 18:00 |
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
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>ß íå îá ýòîì. ýòî óæå íå âàæíî ñ âàøèì-òî äèàãíîçîì 
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Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 01.06.2019 09:33 |
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>To summarise: >The CH345 device is.. Âî-âî. Òî÷íî òàê êàê íàïèñàíî. Äëèííûå îäèíî÷íûå íîòû íà 1 êàíàëå èíîãäà âîñïðèíèìàåò, à îñòàëüíîå - ôèã. 8-( |
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bav9
http://home.onego.ru/~bav9/index-mus.html http://www.musicforums.ru/lirics/userpost.php?bn=mfor_lirics&userid=lehavika&forum=mfor_lirics&dt=365&type=1 |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 03.06.2019 10:06 |
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
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bav9 , ìîå ìíåíèå - äåâàéñ íà äàííîì ìèêðîêîíòðîëëåðå ñûðîâàò äëÿ ïîëíîöåííîé êîíâåðòàöèè. è íè÷åãî ñ ýòèì íå ïîäåëàåøü, ò.ê. íàäî ìåíÿòü ïðîøèâêó (åñëè ýòî âîîáùå ïîìîæåò íà äàííûõ ìîùíîñòÿõ)... ó ìåíÿ åñòü ïðîãðàììàòîð usbasp íà äàííîì ÷èïå - øüþ èì àòìåãè è ïðî÷èå âîñüìèáèòêè. âñå íîðì. íî ýòî áîëåå ïðîñòàÿ ëîãèêà ðàáîòû, íåæåëè ðèàë-òàéì ìèäè... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 03.06.2019 15:19 |
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> øüþ èì àòìåãè è ïðî÷èå âîñüìèáèòêè -- À íå ñïðàâèòåñü ëè ñ STC 12C5A32S2 ? |
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WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/ |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 03.06.2019 16:40 |
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Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
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ñîðÿí, íåìíîãî ïîïóòàë: usbasp ñäåëàí íà àòìåãå - è øüåò àòìåãè. òàêæå ïîëüçóþñü ïðîãðàììàòîðîì íà ch341a - èì øüþ ïàìÿòü EEPROM (ñåðèè 24 è 25). Long , äëÿ ïðîøèâêè óêàçàííûõ ìèêðîêîíòðîëëåðîâ ST íóæåí ïðîãðàììàòîð íà CH340T (ó ìåíÿ òàêîãî íåò, íî âðîäå äîëæåí òàêîé áûòü íà àëè). øèòü íàäî ÷åðåç ñîôò STC-ISP. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðîøó ñîâåòîâ â îæèâëåíèè ðàáîòû êàáåëÿ midi2usb
Âðåìÿ: 04.06.2019 00:59 |
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-- ßñíî, ñïàñèáî! | |
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WELCOME!
WWW.LONG.RU WWW.SOUNDINFO.ORG/FORUM/ |
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