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Òåìà: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 09.09.2014 16:30 

Warwick Corvette, Gibson Blackbird

Òîâàðèùè-ñàìîäåëêèíû, ìîæåò áûòü êòî-íèáóäü çàïàðèâàëñÿ è ñîáèðàë ñîáñòâåííûé êëîí àíàëîãîâîé ïåäàëè îò Boss CE-5, êîòîðûå äî 2001 ãîäà âûïóñêàëèñü, ïîòîì ñòàëè äåëàòü öèôðîâóþ âåðñèþ. Íà ãóãëå íàêîâûðÿë îäíó ñõåìó, íî åñòü íåêîòîðûå ñîìíåíèÿ.

Áóäó î÷åíü áëàãîäàðåí çà ëþáóþ ïîìîùü!
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2014 17:01 
Moscow


CE-5 / CE-5A: The basic sound of the CE-5 is again a little bit closer to what it was on the CE-2 - the BBD delay circuit and the clock driver are again the same MN3007 and MN3101. The circuit level implementation nevertheless is quite different from its predecessors, which becomes also apparent in the sound. Added EQ-controls add versatility and by controlling the ratio of the direct signal and the effect, the pedal can be used to create soundscapes from a slight shimmer to strongly vibrating sounds. Although this unit has a beautiful and bright sound, it fails to capture the warmth and depth the CE-1 and CE-2 had, leaving a slightly sterile aftertaste. Although the circuit and circuit board implementations of the CE-5 and the CE-5A are drastically different, they are sound wise practically identical.

http://www.pedalarea.com/chorus_ensemble.htm
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 14.09.2014 17:12 
Moscow


Äà, ñîáñ-íî, âîò ðîäíàÿ ñõåìà:
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 16.09.2014 11:06 

Warwick Corvette, Gibson Blackbird

Ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2014 15:49 
Êðàñíîÿðñê
G&l legacy '93 candy apple red metallic; Ibanez AF-105 nt

À çà÷åì òåáå ñå-5? Îí æå æóòêî êèñëîòíûé; åñëè ïàÿòü àíàëîã, òî ñå-2!
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 17.10.2014 13:25 
Moscow


-- Êèñëîòíûé... ÕÎÐÓÑ??????
Áëèí, çàêàò ñîëíöà âðó÷íóþ........
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 17.10.2014 14:35 
Êðàñíîÿðñê
G&l legacy '93 candy apple red metallic; Ibanez AF-105 nt

Èìåííî êèñëîòíûé. Òîëüêî íå ïî òîé êèñëîòå, êîòîðóþ âìåñòå ñ ãðèáàìè äëÿ ïîë¸òîâ â êîñìîñ áåðóò, à åäêèé, ÿäîâèòûé, íåæèâîé.
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 17.10.2014 22:00 
Moscow


>åäêèé, ÿäîâèòûé, íåæèâîé.

-- Cêîðåå âñåãî, ýòî î öèôðîâîì âàðèàíòå.
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 03:31 
Êðàñíîÿðñê
G&l legacy '93 candy apple red metallic; Ibanez AF-105 nt

Íåà. Ïðîâåðÿë ïî ñåðèéíèêó (1997-é ãîä) è ïî ïëàòå (òîãäà â ýëåêòðîíèêå íå ðàçáèðàëñÿ, ïîýòîìó ñìîòðåë òîëüêî íà ìàðêèðîâêó ïëàòû), áûë èìåííî àíàëîãîâûé. Ïî çàâåðåíèÿì ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ, çâó÷àò îáå âåðñèè ïðàêòè÷åñêè èäåíòè÷íî; ñàì íå ñòàëêèâàë, íè÷åãî íå ìîãó ñêàçàòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 14:21 
Moscow


-- Äóìàþ, ÎÍÈ ïðîñòî ñîâðàëè.
Öèôðîâûå ïåäàëüêè "òàì" íà÷àëè äåëàòü óæå â 80-õ ãîäàõ, è âåðîÿòíîñòü èçãîòîâëåíèÿ
àíàëîãîâîé ïåäàëüêè â 1997 ãîäó - ïðàêòè÷åñêè íóëåâàÿ.
À çâóê â öèôðÅ - òî÷íî òàêîé, êàê Âû è íàïèñàëè. Êîãäà âïåðâûå ñòîëêíóëñÿ - áûë ñèëüíî óäèâë¸í....
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 14:42 
Êðàñíîÿðñê
G&l legacy '93 candy apple red metallic; Ibanez AF-105 nt

Íå äóìàþ; ñ bbd ÷èïàìè äî ñèõ ïîð ïåðåáîåâ íåò, ïðîñòî íà öèôðå îêàçàëîñü óäîáíåå ðàáîòàòü. Íå íóæíî ïðîâîäèòü êàëèáðîâêó, íàïðèìåð. Äà è ïåðåõîä íà smd.
Âîò àíàëîãîâûé ñå-5: http://www.pedalarea.com/images/boss_ce5_03.jpg
À âîò â ñðàâíåíèè àíàëîã è öèôðà: http://0.static.wix.com/media/741274_293d4a94caf4d499bf286841a23c0be6.jpg_1024
Òàê êàê ìîé áûë 97-ãî ãîäà, îí 100% àíàëîãîâûé, âðÿä ëè çäåñü áûëà áû äàíà íåâåðíàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ: http://bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/ce5.xml
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2014 01:42 
Moscow


-- Ñ íèìè íå òî ÷òî ïåðåáîè - èõ êàêîå-òî âðåìÿ íå áûëî âîîáùå, íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî.
Ïîñëå ïðåêðàùåíèÿ ïðîèçâîäñòâà âñåé ñåðèè ïçñ MN3xxx Ïàíàñîíèêîì (Ìàöóøèòîé) å¸ ïåðåäàëè
Êîðåå, äëÿ ðåâåðîâ â áóìáîêñàõ, íî òàì òîæå âñêîðå ñâåðíóëè è ïåðååõàëè íà öèôðó.
Âîçðîäèëè ïðîèçâîäñòâî - òîëüêî ÷àñòè÷íî, áóêâàëüíî 2-3 ìîäåëè (åñëè íå îäíà âîîáùå), ïî
çàêàçó ã-íà áåðèíãåðà.
Åù¸, ïðàâäà, Ìàêñîí õîðîõîðèòñÿ - íî ñ ó÷¸òîì ÿâíîé ìàëîòèðàæíîñòè ÏÇÑ-ìèêðîñõåì
ïîëàãàþ, ÷òî äåëàþòñÿ îíè âñå ðåàëüíî òàêè â îäíîì ìåñòå...

Íàñ÷¸ò òîãî, ÷òî â 97-ì îíè áûëè\íå áûëè íà ÏÇÑ - ñïîðèòü äî õðèïîòû íå áóäó :)
Áî äþæå ìàëîèíòåðåñíîå çàíÿòèå. À âîò ñî çâóêîì - íåïîíÿòêà...
The major difference between the CE-5 and its predecessors is the additon of a level control and a high and low filter control .
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Òåìà: Re: Ñõåìà Boss CE-5 íå öèôðîâàÿ
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2014 01:52 
Moscow


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