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Òåìà: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 30.11.2011 23:15 |
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ß - áèòáîêñåð. Ó ìåíÿ èìååòñÿ ñëåäóþùàÿ öåïî÷êà óñòðîéñòâ (óêàçàíû â ïîðÿäêå ðàñïîëîæåíèÿ â òðàêòå): 1. Ìèêðîôîí sennheiser E945. 2. Ãèòàðíûé ïðîöåññîð BOSS GT-8 3. Korg kaoss pad 3 4. Korg kaoss pad 3 5. Óøè AKG K 240 Studio ß ïîïðîøó î áîëüøîé óñëóãå. Åñëè åñòü çíàþùèå ëþäè, êîòîðûå îðèåíòèðóþòñÿ â îïèñàíèÿõ âõîäîâ, âûõîäîâ óñòðîéñòâ, à òàê æå øàðÿò â òîì, êàêèå óñòðîéñòâà ñ êàêèìè ìîæíî ñîåäèíÿòü, òî áóäüòå äîáðû - óêàæèòå ìíå íà ìîþ îøèáêó. Ïðîáëåìà - âîçíèêàåò ôèäáåê äèêèé íà æèâûõ âûñòóïëåíèÿõ. ß îáðàáàòûâàþ áèòáîêñ è âîêàë ýôåêòàìè ãèòàðíîãî ïðîöåññîðà, è ýôôåêòîðîâ kaoss pad 3, à ïîòîì çàïèñûâàþ ñèãíàë íà ñåìïëåðû, âñòðîåííûå âñå â òå æå kaoss pad 3. Ïîêà ÷òî äîãàäêè ïî ïîâîäó ïðè÷èí ïðîáëåìû ñëåäóþùèå: 1. Íà ãèòàðíîì ïðîöåññîðå íåò ìèêðîôîííîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ. Ñîîòâåòñòåííî, ÷òîáû ÷òî-òî îáðàáîòàòü ýôôåêòàìè ïðîöåññîðà, ïðèõîäèòüñÿ âíóòðåííèìè æå ñèëàìè ýòîãî ïðîöåññîðà íàêëàäûâàòü äî îïóïåíèÿ ýôôåêòû êîìïðåññèè íà ñèãíàë, è âûæèìàòü ðó÷êó input gain äî óïîðà. Èç-çà ÷ðåçìåðíîé êîìïðåññèè â óñëîâèÿõ æèâîãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ ìèêðîôîí íà÷èíàåò ëîâèòü âñå îò ñâèñòà ñâåð÷êà äî àêêóñòè÷åñêèõ ñèñòåì, âûçûâàÿ ôèäáýê. Íå ñïàñàåò äàæå âñòðîåííûé è ïî-÷åëîâå÷åñêè ðàáîòàþùèé íîéç ãåéò. Ïëþñ êî âñåìó èç-çà ÷ðåçìåðíîãî ñèëåíèÿ ïðîöåññîðîì çà ñèãíàë öåïëÿþòñÿ â íåêîåé ìåðå è ïîñòîðîííèå øóìû (áëàãî íåìíîãî). 2. ß ðàáîòàþ ñ äèäæåÿìè,à îíè ïðèâûëêëè ñòàâèòü àêêóñòèêó âïëîòíóþ ê ñåáå, ÷òîá ñàìèõ êîëáàñèëî. 3. ×àñòî èñïîëüçóþ ýôôåêòû-ôèëüòðû, êîòîðûå âûçûâàþò óñèëåíèå òåõ èëè äðóãèõ ÷àñòîò, îò÷åãî îïÿòü æå ïîëó÷àþ ôèäáåê. Ïîìîæåò ëè ìíå óñòàíîâêà â íà÷àëå öåïè, ïîñëå ìèêðîôîíà, ìèêðîôîííîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ òèïà M-Audio DMP3 èëè íåò? Ïîìîæåò ëè ìíå áîëåå óäàëåííîå ðàñïîëîæåíèå àêêóñòèêè îò ìåñòà ìîåãî ñîáñòâåííîãî ïðåáûâàíèÿ? ×òî ìîæåò âîîáùå ïîìî÷ü â ïîäîáíîé ñèòóàöèè? Ïàðàìåòðû óñòðîéñòâ: ìèêðîôîí: Frequency response (microphone) 40.....16000Hz Sensitivity in free field, no load (1kHz) 2,0mV/Pa bei 1 kHz = -54dB (0dB = 1V/Pa) = -74dB (0dB = 1V/ubar) Nominal impedance 350 ohms Min. terminating impedance 1000 ohms Dimensions 47 x 186 mm Weight 330 g BOSS GT-8 AD Conversion 24 bit + AF method* DA Conversion 24 bit Sampling Frequency 44.1 kHz Program Memories 340: 140 (User) + 200 (Preset) Nominal Input Level INPUT: -10 dBu RETURN: -10 dBu Input Impedance INPUT: 1 M ohms RETURN: 220 k ohms Nominal Output Level OUTPUT: 0 dBu SEND: -10 dBu Output Impedance OUTPUT: 2 k ohms SEND: 2 k ohms Digital Output EIAJ CP1201, S/P DIF Dynamic Range 100 dB or greater (IHF-A) Display 16 characters, 2 lines (backlit LCD) 2 characters, 7 segment LED Connectors INPUT jack OUTPUT jacks L (MONO)/R PHONES jack SEND jack RETURN jack DIGITAL OUT connector (coaxial) AMP CONTROL jack SUB EXP PEDAL/SUB CTL PEDAL 1,2 jack MIDI connectors (IN/OUT) AC Adaptor jack Power Supply AC 14 V; Supply AC adaptor (BOSS BRC series) Current Draw 650 mA Accessories AC Adaptor (BRC series) Owner’s Manual Options Foot Switch: FS-5U, FS-5L, Dual Foot Switch: FS-6 Expression Pedal: EV-5 (Roland), FV-300L + PCS-33 (Roland) Foot Switch Cable: PCS-31 (Roland), (1/4 inches Phone Plug (stereo) - 1/4 inches Phone Plug (mono) x 2) Korg kaoss pad 3: Programs: 128 Sample Memory: 100 samples (max.) Sampling: 16 bit, 48 kHz; 24-bit A/D, D/A • Data Storage: SD Card Inputs: Mic (1/4”) with trim knob; Line In L, R (RCA) Outputs: Headphone (1/4” Stereo) with volume; Line Out L, R (RCA) USB: Type B MIDI: IN/OUT Power Supply: DC 12V; 700mA Dimensions: (W x D x H): 8.27” x 8.9” x1.93” Weight: 2.87 lbs. Accessories: CD-ROM (Editor/Librarian); Power supply;Touchpad protective sheet Æäó îòâåòîâ. Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðþ çà âíèìàíèå ê ìîåé ïðîáëåìå. ×òîá áûëî ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ÿ âûòâîðÿþ, èëè ïûòàþñü âûòâîðÿòü, âîò âèäåî: |
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Òåìà: Re: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 30.11.2011 23:56 |
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Ó ìåíÿ ïî÷åìó-òî äèêîå îùóùåíèå äåæà-âþ. Âðîäå áûëà òåìà ñ àáñîëþòíî àíàëîãè÷íîé ïðîáëåìîé, áèòáîêñåðîì è òàêèì æå ñåòàïîì... Ôèäáåêà íå èçáåæàòü ïðè ïðåâûøåíèè íåêîòîðîãî ïðåäåëüíîãî êîýôôèöèåíòà óñèëåíèÿ ñèãíàëà ñ ìèêðîôîíà. Íèêàê. Ìîæíî óâåëè÷èòü ïðåäåë ïóòåì îòñòðîéêè ÀÑ, íî ïîëíîñòüþ óíè÷òîæèòü - íåò. |
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Åæåíåäåëüíûé #ÇÂÓÊÑÎÂÅÒ îò Right Audio - http://vk.com/rightaudio1
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Òåìà: Re: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2011 00:06 |
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Òåìà: Re: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2011 01:15 |
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Áèòáîêñ
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Äà, âîïðîñ ïîäíèìàë àíàëîãè÷íûé. Íî ïîÿâèëàñü äîãàäêà, ÷òî âîçìîæíî ïðè÷èíà îñíîâíàÿ ìîèõ ïðîáëåì â îòñóòñòâèè èçíà÷àëüíîãî óñèëåíèÿ ìèêðîôîííîãî ñèãíàëà ñ ïîñëåäóþùåé ïåðåêîìïðåññèåé, êîãäà ìèêðîôîí íà÷èíàåò ïîäõâàòûâàòü ìàëåéøèå øóìû â ïîìåùåíèè. Îòòîãî ðåøèë ïåðåôîðìóëèðîâàòü âîïðîñ è çàäðàòü åãî åùå ðàç. Âîçìîæíî åñëè óñèëèòü ñèãíàë è íàëàäèòü gain structure öåïî÷êè, òî ñòàíåò ëåã÷å æèòü, îáðàçíî ãîâîðÿ? )) |
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Òåìà: Re: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2011 03:36 |
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Ìîñêâà ïàëüöû è óõè
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>Íà ãèòàðíîì ïðîöåññîðå íåò ìèêðîôîííîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ. Ñîîòâåòñòåííî, ÷òîáû ÷òî-òî îáðàáîòàòü ýôôåêòàìè ïðîöåññîðà, ïðèõîäèòüñÿ âíóòðåííèìè æå ñèëàìè ýòîãî ïðîöåññîðà íàêëàäûâàòü äî îïóïåíèÿ ýôôåêòû êîìïðåññèè íà ñèãíàë, è âûæèìàòü ðó÷êó input gain äî óïîðà. À ðàçâå íå òóò êîðåíü çëà? Âîò æå îíî, ãåéí äî óïîðà è äèêàÿ êîìïðåññèÿ. Ýòî ÷òî óãîäíî â ôèäáýê çàãîíèò. >Ïîìîæåò ëè ìíå óñòàíîâêà â íà÷àëå öåïè, ïîñëå ìèêðîôîíà, ìèêðîôîííîãî ïðåäóñèëèòåëÿ òèïà M-Audio DMP3 èëè íåò? Ïîìîæåò. Íî íå ïîëíîñòüþ. >Ïîìîæåò ëè ìíå áîëåå óäàëåííîå ðàñïîëîæåíèå àêêóñòèêè îò ìåñòà ìîåãî ñîáñòâåííîãî ïðåáûâàíèÿ? Ïîìîæåò. Íî ÿ áû ñêàçàë íå áîëåå óäàëåííîå, à ïðîñòî ïðàâèëüíîå ïî îòíîøåíèþ ê ìèêó. Ãðîìêîñòü â ðàéîíå âàøèõ óøåé âñå æå äîëæíà áûòü íà óðîâíå. È ìîùíîñòü ìîíèòîðîâ äîëæíà áûòü íå ìàëåíüêîé. |
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Òåìà: Re: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2011 14:23 |
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Ìèêðîôîííûé ïðåä - äà. Îòñòðàèâàåøü ìèêðîôîí áåç âñåé öåïî÷êè. Ïîòîì ïîäêëþ÷àåøü âñå äàâàéñû, è ñìîòðèøü øòîáû âî âñåõ ïðåñåòàõ àóòïóò ãåéí íå ïðåâûøàë 0. À òàì õîòü óêîìïðåññèðóéñÿ. Íà ôèíàëüíîì êîìïðåññîðå ìîæíî ïîäíÿòü àóòïóò ãåéí äî óäîáîâîðèìîãî ñîòîÿíèÿ, èëè äî ïðåäåëà ïåðåä ôèäáåêîì. ß áû êàê-òî òàê ïîñòóïèë |
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Òåìà: Re: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2011 14:54 |
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Áèòáîêñ
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Ñïàñèáî çà ñîâåòû. ß ïðîñòî ñîìíåâàëñÿ â ïðàâèëüíîñòè äîãàäêè ñ ïðåäóñèëèòåëåì. (ïî îáðàçîâàíèþ ýêîíîìèñò. Ïî ôèçèêå òðîÿê â øêîëå èìåë). Îòòîãî ðåøèë ïåðåä ïîêóïêîé ñïðîñèòü çíàþùèõ ëþäåé. Ñïàñèáî. ) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü â íàñòðîéêå àïïàðàòóðû.
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2011 16:32 |
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Moscow
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>ãåéí äî óïîðà è äèêàÿ êîìïðåññèÿ. Ýòî ÷òî óãîäíî â ôèäáýê çàãîíèò. -- Äà, è íèêàêèìè ïåðåñòàíîâêàìè ðó÷åê è àïïàðàòóðû íè÷åãî íå èçìåíèòü, ïîêà íå óìåíüøèòü ÎÁÙÈÉ êîýôôèöèåíò óñèëåíèÿ âñåõ âêëþ÷åííûõ â öåïî÷êó àïïàðàòîâ. |
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