| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 15:04 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ðåøèëà âîò òîæå íàïå÷àòàòü íåêîòîðûå ïåðåâîäû. Íåñêîëüêî ïðèìèòèâíûå, êîíå÷íî, íî êàêèå óæ åñòü, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, ñòèõîòâîðíûå...Ñ ïåðâîãî àëüáîìà Nightwish "Angels fall First"... ~Astral Romance~ A nocturnal concerto candlelight whispers me where to go Hymn of gathering stars as my guide whilst I wander on this path of the night Embroidery of the stars undress my feelings for this earth Send me your salva to heal my scars and let this nakedness be my birth Macrocosm poured its powers on me And the hopes of this world I now must leave The nightwish I sent you centuries ago has been heard by those who dwelled in a woe The distance of our bridal bed Await for me to be dead Dust of the galaxies take my hand Lead me to my beloved's land Departed by the guillotine of death I received a letter from the depth The dream of my lover it carried inside Caressed by the sharpest knife I asked you to be my wife Rays of the setting sun were my tears wept upon promises undone Come to me Make me believe to you and your love again Above the universe Beneath the Great Eye I shall desire you forevermore ~Àñòðàëüíûé ðîìàíñ~ Ñèÿíèå ñâå÷è âåäåò ìåíÿ òóäà, Ãäå ìíå íî÷íîé êîíöåðò èãðàåò, Ñîáðàíüå çâåçä - âñåãäà, âñåãäà, ß ñòðàíñòâóþ - â íî÷è ìîé äóõ øàãàåò. Ïîëîòíà çâåçä ìîè âñå ÷óâñòâà îáíàæàþò,  ïîäàðîê äèâíîå ñâîå ìíå ïðèñûëàþò ñåðåáðî, È øðàìû äàâíèå ìîè êàê ïîöåëóÿìè èçëå÷àò è ëàñêàþò, È â ýòîé îáíàæåííîñòè ðîæäåíüå íîâîå ìíå îòäàíî. È Ìàêðîêîñì â ìåíÿ âëèâàåò ñèëû, Íàäåæäû ìèðà ýòîãî îñòàâèòü íóæíî ïîçàäè, Æåëàíüå Íî÷è, ñêâîçü ñòîëåòüÿ, ñêâîçü çâåçäíûå ïðèëèâû, Óñëûøàíî óæ òåìè êòî ðûäàåò âïåðåäè. À ðàññòîÿíèå äî íàøåé ñâàäåáíîé ïîñòåëè - Òî æäåò ìåíÿ, è òî â ìãíîâåíèå, êîãäà óìðó, È ïðàõ ãàëàêòèê íà ðóêàõ ìåíÿ êàê íà ìåòåëè, Âîçüìåò â òó çåìëþ, â êîòîðîé â ñ÷àñòüå ÿ ãîðþ. Ðàçðóáëåííûå ãèëüîòèíîé ñìåðòè, Íî ÿ ïîñëàíüÿ èç ãëóáèí óæ ïîëó÷èë, Ïèñüìî ëþáâè ìîåé ñðåäü æèçíè êðóãîâåðòè, Âíóòðè ìåíÿ - ìå÷òà, ñ ìå÷òîé âñå ýòî âðåìÿ æèë. È ñëîâíî áû íîæîì îñòðåéøèì ÿ ëàñêàþ, È ìîé âîïðîñ, ÷òîá òû áûëà ìîåé æåíîé, Ëó÷è çàêàòíîãî ñâåòèëà ÿ â ñåáÿ âáèðàþ, È â íèõ ðûäàë, îñòàâëåííûé ëèøü ñî ñâîåé ìå÷òîé. Ïðèäèòå êî ìíå, è ñäåëàéòå òàê, ÷òîá ïîâåðèë, ß ñíîâà áû â Âàøó ñâÿòóþ Ëþáîâü, Âûøå âñåëåííîé, â Âåëèêîì Îêå, ÷òî òàê ñâåòåë, Áûòü ñ Âàìè âñåãäà, âíîâü è âíîâü. ~Angels Fall First~ An angelface smiles to me Under a headline of tragedy That smile used to give me warmth Farewell – no words to say beside the cross on your grave and those forever burning candles Needed elsewhere to remind us of the shortness of our time Tears laid for them Tears of love, tears of fear Bury my dreams, dig up my sorrows Oh, Lord why the angels fall first Not relieved by thougts of Shangri-La Nor enlightened by lessons of Christ I'll never understand the meaning of the right Ignorance lead me into the light Sing me a song of your beauty of your kingdom Let the melodies of your harps caress those whom we still need Yesterday we shook hands My friend Today a moonbeam lightens my path My guardian ~Àíãåëû ïàëè ïåðâûìè~ Ëèêè àíãåëîâ óëûáêàìè çäåñü è äëÿ ìåíÿ ñèÿþò, Íî âåäü íàä íèìè ãîðüêàÿ òðàãåäèÿ ëåæèò, Óëûáêè ýòè ïðîùåíüåì äîëãèì îäàðÿþò, Ïðîùàíüå - è íåòó ñëîâ, ëèøü äóøà åãî õðàíèò. Ïåðåñå÷åíèå êðåñòîâ ìû âèäèì íà ìîãèëàõ, Òàê ñâå÷è òå ãîðÿò - èõ âðåìÿ çàòóøèòü íå â ñèëàõ. Îíè çàòåì íóæíû, ÷òîáû íàïîìíèòü, Ñêîëü ñêîðîòå÷íî âðåìÿ âûäàííîå íàì, Ëþáâè è ñòðàõà ñëåçû - âå÷íî ïîìíèòü,  òåõ ñëåçàõ âå÷íîñòè áåñêðàéíèé õðàì. Ïîõîðîíè ìîè ìå÷òû, ìîè ïå÷àëè, Íî, Ïîâåëèòåëü, òû îòâåòü ìíå ïî÷åìó, Àõ, ïî÷åìó æå àíãåëû òâîè ïåðâûìè ïàëè, Îòâåòü ðûäàíüþ ìîåìó. Íåñèòå ìíå ïåñíü î ñâîåé êðàñîòå, Íåñèòå ìíå ïåñíü î ñâîåì êîðîëåâñòâå, Ìåëîäèÿìè àðô, ÷òî â âå÷íîé âûñîòå, Çîâèòå òåõ, êòî íóæåí â æèçíè òîé ÷óäåñíîé. Â÷åðà âû äðóãà ìîåãî çà ðóêó ïîäõâàòèëè, Ñåãîäíÿ ëóííûé ñâåò îñâåòèò ïóòü, Íà òîì ïóòè ëþäñêèå íîãè íå õîäèëè, Íà òîì ïóòè òåáå ìåíÿ õðàíèòü. ~Tutankhamen~ As the sun sets beyond the pyramids To greet me with its rays I place my hand on my forehead To see your chariots' flames Watch me kneel before you Hear the cats meowing in the temple They yearn the milk you cascaded As I yearn that promised treasure Treasure of Tutankhamen I am the one it is Take me with you through the stargate To the valley of the kings Sacrifice me Tutankhamen And let me be your queen Take me Tonight and always We'll breed to fill all earth Three milleniums it took me to guard your rest Your slumber in mighty Phoenix's nest But tonight the darkness in the tomb has perished For Carter has come to free my beloved ~Òóòàíõàìîí~ Êîãäà ñîëíöå ñÿäåò çà ïèðàìèäû, Ïðèâåòñòâóÿ ñâîèìè ëó÷àìè ìåíÿ, ß ðóêó ïðèëîæó êî ëáó, ÷òîá ïîÿâèëèñü âèäû, Òåõ êîëåñíèö â êîòîðûõ åñòü äâèæåíèå îãíÿ. Óâèäü ïåðåä ñîáîé êîëåíîïðåêëîíåííîé, Ìÿóêàíüå òû êîøåê â çàìêå ðàçëè÷è, Îíè òîñêóþò î ìîëîêå èì íûí÷å íå âðó÷åííîì, È òàêæå î ñîêðîâèùå îáåùàííîì ìîé ïëà÷ çâó÷èò. Ñîêðîâèùå Òóòàíõàìîíà, âîçüìè ìåíÿ ñ ñîáîþ, Âîçüìè ìåíÿ ñêâîçü çâåçäíûå âðàòà, Âîçüìè â äîëèíó êîðîëåé, ñ ìîåé ìå÷òîþ, Ïîæåðòâóé íûí÷å, äà - ïîæåðòâóé íàâñåãäà. È äàé ìíå áûòü òâîåé âîçëþáëåííîé è êîðîëåâîé, Âîçüìè ìåíÿ ñåãîäíÿ - ñåãîäíÿ íàâñåãäà, Òûñÿ÷åëåòüÿ òðè, ÿ òâîé ïîêîé õðàíèëà âåðíî, Òâîé ñîí, â ìîãó÷åì Ôåíèêñà ãíåçäå. Íî ñåãîäíÿøíåé íî÷üþ â ìîãèëå ñâåò ïîÿâèëñÿ, Òî Âîç÷èê ê íàì, ìèëûé, ñîøåë, Ïðèøåë - íûí÷å òû îò âåêîâ îñâîáîäèëñÿ, Âîçëþáëåíûé, íûí÷å ÷àñ íàø ïðèøåë. ~Lappi (Lapland)~ ~This Moment Is Eternity~ Day posesses no key here where moon sheds the cold twilight This moment is eternity Land of beauty, cold and cruel Fjeld chants echoing, reflecting the melancholy... Trust the wind Trust the fires Call for the hermit of the night Land of raven and bear Land of eagle and wolverine Dismal are the mirrors of a wolf ~Ëàïëàíäèÿ~ ~Ýòîò Ìîìåíò - Âå÷íîñòü~ Äíåâíûå ñèëû, çäåñü íè÷åì íå îáëàäàþò, Ëóíà çäåñü ïîëíî÷ü êîëäîâñêóþ øëåò,  ìãíîâåíüå - âå÷íîñòè ìåðöàþò. Ïðåêðàñíàÿ çåìëÿ, òû õîëîäíà, Ïðîìåðçëà, ïîòîìó è æåñòêà, Íî êðàñîòà òâîèì ïîëÿì äàíà, Âî ëüäàõ - ìåëàíõîëèè îòðàæåíüå, ðîêà. Äîâåðüñÿ âåòðó, äîâåðüñÿ îãíÿì, Ïîçîâè îòøåëüíèêà íî÷è, Çåìëÿ ãäå âîðîíû, ìåäâåäè - ãäå ïî íî÷àì, Îðëîâ è îáîðîòíåé îçåð çàñòàâøèõ âèäÿò î÷è. 
|
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 15:11 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
ñîáà÷üè íîñû, êîøà÷üè õâîñòû è ÷åðåïàøèé ïàíöèðü 
|
À âîò ýòî, äåâî÷êà, íàçûâàåòñÿ ôàíàòèçì!.. Ìåñòàìè î÷åíü õîðîøî! Ñ óâ. Âèð |
|
|
ñàáîðäåí Ordo Creatus è ìàãèñòð Ordo Planetarum Ëîêàëüíîé Ãðóïïû, âêëþ÷àÿ Áîëüøîå è Ìàëîå Ìàãåëëàíîâû Îáëàêà è Òóìàííîñòü Àíäðîìåäû.
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 15:16 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Àãà, ìíå òîæå íðàâÿòñÿ íåêîòîðûå, ÿ ïðîñòî âñå ïîäðÿä óæ íå ñòàëà... Ìîæåò, êàê-íèáóäü ñàìà ïåðåâåäó è âûëîæó
|
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 16:42 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Èíòåðåñíî òàê, äëÿ îáùåãî ðàçâèòèÿ. Íî äóìàþ, ÷òî ïåðåâîäèòü èí.òåêñòû - äåëî íåáëàãîäàðíîå. | |
|
Îáðàòíàÿ ñâÿçü: ICQ 403948416
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 16:49 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Ìîãèëà , î÷åíü äàæå áëàãîäàðíîå äåëî...ìîæíî òàê ïåðåâåñòè òåêñò, ÷òî íèêàêîé ñïåöèàëèñò íå ïîéì¸ò , ÷òî ýòî ÷óæîå , à íå òâî¸...ïîòîì ïåðåâîäû ïîäñêàçûâàþò òåáå òåìû , âàðèàöèè... | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 16:53 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Vagant, âïðî÷åì, òåáå âèäíåå, ÿ-òî åùå íå ïðîáîâàë (è æåëàíüÿ ïîêà íåò). | |
|
Îáðàòíàÿ ñâÿçü: ICQ 403948416
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 16:55 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèáñàí 
|
Åñëè ýòî íå òâîå, òî ÷ü¸? Ïî÷åìó íå óêàçûâàåøü àâòîðà? | |
|
Gibson Les Paul Studio '94
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 16:56 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
ïåðåâîäû â ìîäå
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 19:35 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Taake , à ïðîñòî òû òàê ïåðåâåä¸øü , ÷òî òàì áóäåò áîëüøå òâîåãî ÷åì òîãî êòî áûë èçíà÷àëüíî , à çà÷åì òîãäà åãî óêàçûâàòü? ýòî óæå òâî¸.. ó ìåíÿ áûëî òàê ñ äåòñêèì ñòèõîì.. | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2007 19:49 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèáñàí
|
vagant, íå, ÿ èìåþ èìÿ òîãî, ÊÒÎ ñîáñòâåííî ïåðåâîäèë. | |
|
Gibson Les Paul Studio '94
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 27.01.2007 15:18 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Íå, âîîáùå, ïåðåâîäèòü - î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî, ãäå áû òîëüêî âçÿòü äîñòîéíûé îðèãèíàë...  Ïî÷¸ì çíàþ, áëèí, êòî ïåðåâîäèë!!! À äîáàâèë íà ñàéò - ïîëüçîâàòåëü Skyclad... |
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 28.01.2007 21:23 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Selena, ïîëäíÿ... ëàäíî, ÷óòü ïîáîëüøå  ñòðîãî íå ñóäèòå... ÷èñòî äëÿ ïðàêòèêè... ïåðåâåëà âîò... ðàç òàêàÿ çàìóòà ñ ïåðåâîäàìè... îáèëèå ðèôì â îðèãèíàëå ïðîñòî ïîðàæàåò âîîáðàæåíèå  çàòî ïðè èñïîëíåíèè ñîâåðøåííî íåçàìåòíî... åñòü ÷åìó ïîó÷èòüñÿ...P.S. ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, íå ñòîèò èõ (ðèôìû) èñêàòü è â ðóññêîì âàðèàíòå èòàê Nemo... ìîæíî ïåòü... â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ ðèòìèêîé ïåñíè... Nemo This is me for forever One of the lost ones The one without a name Without an honest heart as compass This is me for forever One without a name These lines the last endeavor To find the missing lifeline Oh how I wish For soothing rain All I wish is to dream again My loving heart Lost in the dark For hope I'd give my eveything My flower, withered between The pages 2 and 3 The once and forever bloom gone with my sins Walk the dark path Sleep with angels Call the past for help Touch me with your love And reveal to me my true name Oh how I wish For soothing rain All I wish is to dream again My loving heart Lost in the dark For hope I'd give my eveything Oh, how I wish For soothing rain Oh how I wish to dream again Once and for all And all for once Nemo my name forevermore Nemo sailing home Nemo letting go Oh, how I wish íèêòî ýòî ÿ çäåñü îñòàâëåíà êàê ïîòåðÿííûé ãîñòü îäíà áåç èìåíè áåç ëþáèìîãî ñåðäöà ÷òî êàê êîìïàñ ýòî ÿ çäåñü íàâå÷íî áåçûìÿííàÿ æèçíü â êëóáêå äîðîã áåñïå÷íûõ ïîñëåäíèé øàíñ èùó î êàê õî÷ó â ïîêîé äîæäÿ ÿ ëèøü ìå÷òàòü õî÷ó îïÿòü ìîÿ äóøà âî òüìå îäíà ÿ çà íàäåæäó âñ¸ îòäàì âñÿ æèçíü ìîÿ þíûé öâåòîê óâÿäøèé ìåæ ñòðàíèö îäíàæäû òâîé íåæíûé ø¸ëê ìíîé ïîãóáëåí áûë ò¸ìíûé ïóòü ïðîéäè ñïè ñðåäü àíãåëîâ âðåìÿ ðàçâåðíè äàé ñâîþ ëþáîâü è îòêðîé ìî¸ ìíå èìÿ î êàê õî÷ó â ïîêîé äîæäÿ ÿ ëèøü ìå÷òàòü õî÷ó îïÿòü ìîÿ äóøà âî òüìå îäíà ÿ çà íàäåæäó âñ¸ îòäàì î êàê õî÷ó â ïîêîé äîæäÿ ÿ ëèøü ìå÷òàòü õî÷ó îïÿòü îäíî âñåãäà âñåãäà îäíî íàâå÷íî èìÿ ìíå íèêòî íèêòî êàê ìàÿê íèêòî çîâ ñêâîçü ìðàê î êàê õî÷ó… |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 09:15 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
SOSíà, ñïàñèáî çà Âàø ÷óäåñíûé ïåðåâîä!  Î÷åíü õîðîøî è ðèôìû â Âàøåì âàðèàíòå ÅÑÒÜ, íå òî ÷òî â òîì, êîòîðûé ÿ èìåþ, ïðèñëàë(à) Nairy... Íàõîäêà äëÿ êëàâèøíèêà....Ýòî ÿ – íàâñåãäà Îäèí èç ïîòåðÿííûõ Îäèí áåç èìåíè Áåç ïðàâäèâîãî ñåðäöà-êîìïàñà Ýòî ÿ – íàâñåãäà Îäèí áåç èìåíè Ýòè ëèíèè – ïîñëåäíÿÿ ïîïûòêà Íàéòè ñâîþ ëèíèþ æèçíè Î, êàê ÿ ìå÷òàþ Îá óñïîêàèâàþùåì äîæäå Âñå, ÷åãî ÿ æåëàþ – ñíîâà íà÷àòü ìå÷òàòü Ìîå ëþáÿùåå ñåðäöå Ïîòåðÿíî âî òüìå Ðàäè íàäåæäû ÿ ãîòîâ îòäàòü âñå Î, êàê ÿ ìå÷òàþ Îá óñïîêàèâàþùåì äîæäå Î, êàê ÿ æåëàþ ñíîâà íà÷àòü ìå÷òàòü Ðàç è íàâñåãäà È âñå íà ýòîò ðàç Íåìî – ìîå èìÿ íàâñåãäà Ìîé öâåòîê, çàñóøåííûé ìåæäó ñòðàíèöàìè 2 è 3 Ðàç è íàâñåãäà îòöâåòåò âìåñòå ñ ìîèìè ãðåõàìè Ïðîãóëèâàéñÿ ïî òåìíûì òðîïàì Ñïè ñ àíãåëàìè Îáðàòèñü ê ïðîøëîìó çà ïîìîùüþ Ïðèêîñíèñü êî ìíå ñî âñåé òâîåé ëþáîâüþ È ñêàæè ìíå ìîå èñòèííîå èìÿ Íåìî, ïðèáûâàþùèé äîìîé Íåìî, îñâîáîæäåííûé |
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 09:25 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Selena, Ó Âàñ ïðîñòî òî÷íûé äîñëîâíûé ïåðåâîä... À ó ìåíÿ âñåãî ëèøü ïåðåïèñàííûé â ðèòì è ìåñòàìè â ðèôìó åñòåñòâåííî, íå óäàëîñü íå ïîæåðòâîâàòü ìåñòàìè ñìûñëîì âî èìÿ ôîðìàëüíûõ òðåáîâàíèé... õîòÿ ñìûñëà òàì îñîáîãî... íå îñîáî çàòî î÷åíü ìóçûêàëüíî...ß ÷èñòî èç ïðàêòè÷åñêîãî èíòåðåñà ïåðåâåëà... íà àíãëèéñêèé ÿçûê íåñêîëüêî ïðîùå ïåðåâîäèòü, ÷åì íà ðóññêèé... èç-çà óäàðåíèé è ðèôì... |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 10:34 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèáñàí
|
Íå, âîò ïî÷åìó ÿ ëþáëþ äîñëîâíûå ïåðåâîäû. Ó âàñ , SOSíà, âñ¸ ðàçìûòî êàê-òî, îòñðàíåííî. Ñòðî÷êè óìåðëè, ïîòåðÿëè ñìûñë, áîëüøèíñòâî ôðàç âûçûâàþò âîïðîñû. Ñåëåíèí âàðèàíò êîðÿâûé, íî â í¸ì âñå ïîíÿòíî, à èìåííî ýòî è òðåáóåòñÿ îò ïåðåâîäîâ. "îäíà áåç èìåíè áåç ëþáèìîãî ñåðäöà ÷òî êàê êîìïàñ" - óæàñíàÿ ñòðî÷êà. |
|
|
Gibson Les Paul Studio '94
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 10:59 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Taake, Ðàçìûòî... ó ìåíÿ íå áûëî öåëè íàïèñàòü øåäåâð. Îðèãèíàë òîæå, ñêàæåì òàê íå áëåùåò...Ñåëåíèí âàðèàíò êîðÿâûé, íî â í¸ì âñå ïîíÿòíî, à èìåííî ýòî è òðåáóåòñÿ îò ïåðåâîäîâ. Âñ¸ çàâèñèò îò öåëè ïåðåâîäà. Îò íåêîòîðûõ ïåðåâîäîâ òðåáóåòñÿ, ÷òîáû îíè ïåëèñü äîñëîâíî ïåðåâåñòè - íå òàê òðóäíî. Ê òîìó æå ÿ ïðåäâàðèëà ñâîé ïîñò ðåìàðêîé, ÷òî ýòî ïðîñòî óïðàæíåíèå, âûïîëíåííîå çà ïîëäíÿ â ïîðÿäêå òðåíèðîâêè. Âû æå ÷èòàëè... îáû÷íî íà òàêèå âåùè óõîäèò ìíîãî áîëüøå âðåìåíè... à ýòîò ìíå ïðîñòî íå èìååò ñìûñëà âûãëàæèâàòü äî èäåàëà. Ðàññìàòðèâàéòå åãî êàê ÷åðíîâèê. Ìíå ïîêàçàëîñü, îí â òåìó áóäåò "Ëþáèìîå ñåðäöå" çàìåíèòå íà "ïðàâäèâîå"... áîãà ðàäè... ýòî ÿ íå äîãëÿäåëà ìîÿ âèíà... Âû ïðÿì êàê äîòîøíî "óæàñíàÿ ñòðî÷êà"
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 11:08 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Íå ñîãëàñíà ñ Òààêå â òîì, ÷òî ïåðåâîäû âñåãäà äîëæíû áûòü äîñëîâíûìè, îíè æå äåéñòâèòåëüíî î÷åíü êîðÿâûå Ê òîìó æå, åñëè áû â íèõ âñåãäà öàðèëà òî÷íîñòü, ìèð âðÿä ëè áû îöåíèë ïî äîñòîèíñòâó òàêèõ êëàññíûõ ïîýòîâ, êàê, í-ð, Øåêñïèð è Áîäëåð... Êàê ðàç ñòðî÷êè-òî æèâóò â òåêñòå SOSíû! Íàïå÷àòàþ-êà, íàâåðíîå, ñâîé ïåðåâîä Theatres des Vampires "Lucretia", òàì ÿ âàùå èçâðàùàëàñü
|
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 11:09 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
òîëüêî ïîçæå | |
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 12:03 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèáñàí
|
"Ëþáèìîå ñåðäöå" çàìåíèòå íà "ïðàâäèâîå"... áîãà ðàäè... ýòî ÿ íå äîãëÿäåëà " - Íåò, ÿ íå ïðî òî... õîòÿ è ýòîò ìîìåíò òîæå... Ïîïðîáóé, ïîäîéäè ñåé÷àñ ê êîìó-íèáóäü è âûñòðåëè ôðàçîé: "îäíà áåç èìåíè áåç ëþáèìîãî ñåðäöà ÷òî êàê êîìïàñ" - äâàäöàòèñåêóíäíûé ïàðàëè÷ îáåñïå÷åí .
|
|
|
Gibson Les Paul Studio '94
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 12:06 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
"Ïîïðîáóé, ïîäîéäè ñåé÷àñ ê êîìó-íèáóäü è âûñòðåëè ôðàçîé: "îäíà áåç èìåíè áåç ëþáèìîãî ñåðäöà ÷òî êàê êîìïàñ"" À äëÿ ÷åãî?.. Èíêâè, íó êàê ÷òî ñêàæåøü!
|
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 12:12 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèáñàí
|
ß ÷òî êàê øóòíèê òóò ÷òî êàê?
|
|
|
Gibson Les Paul Studio '94
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 29.01.2007 12:23 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Íå.......ñåðü¸çíî. | |
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2007 08:13 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Taake, "Ïîïðîáóé, ïîäîéäè ñåé÷àñ ê êîìó-íèáóäü è âûñòðåëè ôðàçîé: "îäíà áåç èìåíè áåç ëþáèìîãî ñåðäöà ÷òî êàê êîìïàñ" - äâàäöàòèñåêóíäíûé ïàðàëè÷ îáåñïå÷åí" À çà÷åì? òåêñò ýòî íå ñðåäñòâî îáùåíèÿ, à ìàòåðèàë äëÿ èñïîëíåíèÿ... ê ñëîâó, åñëè ïîäîéòè è ñêàçàòü "The one without a name without an honest heart as compass" ýôôåêò áóäåò áîëåå ïðîäîëæèòåëüíûì. Åñëè áóäåò. åñëè ñïåòü, òî íîðìàëüíî... ìåëîäèÿ âûïðàâëÿåò òàêèå âåùè... ïîñìîòðèòå: îðèãèíàë â äàííîì ñëó÷àå - ïðàêòè÷åñêè îäèí â îäèí âîñïðîèçâåä¸í... ñîáñòâåííî, çà ÷òî Âû òàê ðàòîâàëè... òîëüêî òàì "èìÿ" (name) íåìíîæêî "îòâàëèâàåòñÿ" îò ïðåäøåñòâóþùåãî òåêñòà, õîòÿ â ïðèíöèïå, ìåëîäè÷åñêè ýòî îïðàâäàíî... îò îðèãèíàëà íèêîãî ïàðàëè÷ íå ðàçáèâàåò... âîò ñòðàííî-òî, äà?  ïðèíöèïå ñîãëàñíà ñ òåì, ÷òî ïåñíè ïåòü íàäî íà ÿçûêå îðèãèíàëà... õîòÿ áûâàåò, ÷òî ïåðåâîä èñïðàâëÿåò íåïîñòèæèìî áåçãðàìîòíûé èñõîäíèê... åñëè ñäåëàí ãðàìîòíî ïëþñ ìàãèÿ àíãëèéñêîãî... íà í¸ì óäèâèòåëüíûì îáðàçîì çâó÷èò ÷òî óãîäíî...
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2007 09:30 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Ñîáñíî, âîò… Íè÷åãî âûäàþùåãîñÿ, êàê âèäèòå, åñëè ïåðåâîäèòü äîñëîâíî. Íî áëèí, àôèãåííàÿ ìóçûêà, â äåïðåñíÿã êàê âãîíèò, òàê íå âûéäåøü)))Ãðîçà êëàäáèù Theatres Des Vampires ~Lucretia~ Tears are falling on my face Tears are falling without her I still taste her sweet scent, But rain follow my steps I’m alone along her grave Lucretia… LUCRETIA!!! Tears are falling on my mouth On my skin, on my hands, On her grave Silence of darkness Is strangling me There’s no breath here No shining land Just pain… Just pain and me… My hands are bleeding, I miss your touch, I miss your love, I MISS YOU!!! I walk among the graves The moon caresses the cold marble of death Faded flowers, dismal wind inside my soul My heart is crying tears of blood… ~Ëóêðåöèÿ~ Îí: Ñë¸çû çàñòèëàþò ìî¸ ëèöî Ñë¸çû ðó÷ü¸ì òåêóò áåç íå¸ ß åù¸ âäûõàþ å¸ ñëàäêèé àðîìàò, Íî äîæäü ñëåäóåò ïî ïÿòàì ß íàåäèíå ñ å¸ ìîãèëîé Ëóêðåöèÿ… ËÓÊÐÅÖÈß!!! Îíà: Ñë¸çû ñòðóÿòñÿ ïî ìîèì óñòàì Ïî ìîåé êîæå, ïî ìîèì ëàäîíÿì (ïî å¸ ìîãèëå) Áåçìîëâèå Òüìû äàâèò íà ìåíÿ Çäåñü íåò íè äóøè Íè ïðîáëåñêà ñâåòà Òîëüêî áîëü… Ëèøü áîëü è ÿ… Ìîè ðóêè èñòåêàþò êðîâüþ ß òîñêóþ ïî òâîèì ïðèêîñíîâåíèÿì ß ñêó÷àþ ïî òâîåé ëþáâè ÌÍÅ ÍÅ ÕÂÀÒÀÅÒ ÒÅÁß!!! Îí: ß áðîæó âäîëü ìîãèë Ëóíà ëàñêàåò ëåäÿíîé ìðàìîð ñìåðòè Óâÿäøèå öâåòû, çàóíûâíûé âåòåð â ìîåé äóøå Ìî¸ ñåðäöå ðûäàåò êðîâàâûìè ñëåçàìè… |
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2007 09:49 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèáñàí
|
Âî, Ëóêðåöèÿ ýòî âåðõ òóïèçìà. Èíòåðåñíî, ÷òî Ñåëåíà õîòåëà ñêàçàòü, âûëîæèâ ýòîò òåêñò? "ïðàêòè÷åñêè îäèí â îäèí âîñïðîèçâåä¸í... " - íåñîãëàñåí. Ñìîòðèòå: íèêòî êàê ìàÿê íèêòî çîâ ñêâîçü ìðàê ======================== Íåìî îòïëûâàåò äîìîé Íåìî - îñâîáîæäåííûé ======================== È ðàçâå ýòî îäèí-â-îäèí???!! Êàê âû ñàìè-òî äóìàåòå, ÷òî ìîæíî ïîíÿòü èç âàøåãî âàðèàíòà? Î ÷¸ì ýòî? "îò îðèãèíàëà íèêîãî ïàðàëè÷ íå ðàçáèâàåò" - ìíå îðèãèíàë âîîáùåì-òî ïîíðàâèëñÿ. Ýòî ðîìàòíè÷íàÿ êðàñèâàÿ ïåñíÿ, ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó... Íî ÿ íå ñëûøàë ìóçûêó, ìîãó îøèáàòñÿ. |
|
|
Gibson Les Paul Studio '94
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2007 10:09 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Taake, ß ñêàçàëà â ñâî¸ì ïîñëåäíåì ïîñòå ïðî êîíêðåòíûé êóñî÷åê... ïðî "îäíà áåç èìåíè..." Âû íåâíèìàòåëüíî ÷èòàëè.À ïðî äîïóùåííûå âîëüíîñòè ÿ îãîâîðèëàñü ðàíåå. Nemo êðóòèëè ïî óëüòðå, êîãäà òà åù¸ ðàáîòàëà íà 100,5 Fm... äàëüøå - íå çíàþ... è âèäåîêëèï ãîíÿëè áåç êîíöà... ñîáñòâåííî ñ íàéòâèø ÿ ñàìà çíàêîìà øàïî÷íî... Âîò, êà÷àéòå... 10,5 Mb åñëè òðàôôèêà íå æàëêî http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=CEE2ADA97EA75723 |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2007 11:15 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ãèáñàí
|
SOSíà, ñïàñèáî çà ññûëêó. Ñîãëàøóñü, òåêñò çâó÷èò êîðÿâî â èñïîëíåíèè, îñîáåííî áðîñàåòñÿ â ãëàçà îòñóòñòâèå ðèôì. À, êñòàòè, êòî àâòîð òåêñòà? Íàéòâèøü âðîäå êàê ñêàíäèíàâû, åñëè îíè ñàìè è ïèøóò òåêñòû, òî íè÷åãî óäèâèòåëüíîãî â ýòîì íåò....
|
|
|
Gibson Les Paul Studio '94
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2007 08:34 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Taake, Äà, ñàìè ïèøóò, òî÷íåå âñå òåêñòû è âñþ ìóçûêó ó íèõ ïèøåò îäèí ÷åëîâåê - êëàâèøíèê, Òóîìàñ, òàê, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, â áóêëåòå íàïèñàíî. Ñðàçó âèäíî, ÷òî ñëîâà ðîæäàþòñÿ îäíîâðåìåííî ñ ìåëîäèåé... ãäå-òî êîãäà-òî ñëûøàëà, ÷òî âðîäå ïèøóò îíè íà ñâî¸ì ÿçûêå, à ïîòîì ïåðåâîäÿò, íî ñêîðåå âñåãî ñðàçó íà àíãëèéñêîì, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, òåïåðü... õîòÿ òåïåðü.. îíè âîêàëèñòêó èùóò
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåâîäû Nightwish (íå ìîåãî àâòîðñòâà)
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2007 08:42 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Äà, Õîëëîïàéíåí - îí ñàìûé... Áëèí, ÷îðò ä¸ðíóë Òàðüþ óéòè:-( Íà ñâî¸ì òîæ ïèøóò... Kuolema Tekee Tajtaljan, for example... È Lappy (íà÷àëî) íà ôèíñêîì. |
|
|
"Si quelqu'un excelle parmi nous, qu'il aille exceller ailleurs", - âîò åäèíîäóøíûé ëîçóíã ïîñðåäñòâåííîñòè ïîâñåìåñòíî.
© Àðòóð Øîïåíãàóýð "Ìûñëè" |
||