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>ãîðîä, ïîñòðîåííûé ðóññêèìè Ñåé÷àñ åå ñòðîÿò ãîñòè ñ Êàâêàçà è Óêðàèíû.  Òàê, åñëè ñåðüåçíî - î êàêîì ïåðèîäå òû ãîâîðèøü? Ïåðâîíà÷àëüíóþ Ìîñêâó ïîñòðîèëè ôèííî-óãðû. Ïîòîì îíà ïîñòîÿííî ïåðåñòðàèâàëàñü, è íå âñåãäà ðóññêèìè. Ìîëæíî ëèøü ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ðóññêàÿ ñîñòàâëÿþùàÿ ïðåâàëèðîâàëà, îñòàëüíîå áóäåò ïðîôàíàöèåé èñòèíû. >öåíòð ïðàâîñëàâíîé êóëüòóðû Ýòî ôàêò. >ñòîëèöà ðóññêîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà Ðóññêîãî - ñ 16 ïî íà÷àëî 18 âåêà. Ïîòîì - âîîáùå íå ñòîëèöà. À ïîòîì - èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî ñîâåòñêîãî è ðîññèéñêîãî. |
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Ñîâåòñêîå è ðîññèéñêîå - ýòî ÷ü¸ òîãäà, íå ðóññêîå, ïî-ôàêòó-òî? ))) | |
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Êàê-òî ó áàáóñè
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Fender Telecaster Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã 
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Íàñ÷åò ôèíî-óãðîâ. Ãäå îíè? Êòî èõ âèäåë? Ãäå êðèêè: "Íå ñòðîèòü â íàøåì ÿçû÷åñêîì ãîðîäå ïðàâîñëàâíûõ ñâÿòûíü!" Ñèð Äæ, òû ñîâñåì ãëóïûé ìàëü÷èê? "- Ñêîëüêî òåáå ëåò ìàëûø? - Ñåìü... - Ñåìü? Îé, à ÿ äóìàë âîñåìü!" (ñ) Àñòðèä Ëèíäãðåí |
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>Ñîâåòñêîå è ðîññèéñêîå - ýòî ÷ü¸ òîãäà, íå ðóññêîå, ïî-ôàêòó-òî? ))) Âñ¸ æå íåñêîëüêî øèðå, ÷åíì ðóññêîå. Îò÷àñòè åâðåéñêîå, ê ñëîâó ãîâîðÿ. |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâàÿ Ñîáîðíàÿ ìå÷åòü â Ìîñêâå áóäåò áîëüøå õðàìà Õðèñòà Ñïàñèòåëÿ
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È ÑÑÑÐ, è Ðîññèÿ - ýòî ãîñóäàðñòâà, êîòîðûå áûëè ñîçäàíû è ñóùåñòâîâàëè(-þò) çàñ÷¸ò ñëàâÿí. Ñ ýòèì áåññìûñëåííî ñïîðèòü. Äàæå âî âðåìÿ õîëîäíîé âîéíû íà çàïàäå ÑÑÑÐ îòîäæåñòâëÿëè ñ ðóññêèìè. | |
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Áîëåå òîãî, âñåãäà ÁÑÑÐ, ÓÑÑÐ, ÐÑÔÑÐ áûëè äîíîðíûìè ðåãèîíàìè, à íàöèîíàëüíûå ðåñïóáëèêè - äîòàöèîííûìè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâàÿ Ñîáîðíàÿ ìå÷åòü â Ìîñêâå áóäåò áîëüøå õðàìà Õðèñòà Ñïàñèòåëÿ
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>ÑÑÑÐ îòîäæåñòâëÿëè ñ ðóññêèìè Ïî ïðèâû÷êå, ïî îñíîâíîé òåððèòîðèè è ïðîñòî ïîòîìó, ÷òî òàê ïðîùå ïðîèçíîñèòü. Ñðåäè ÂÊÏÁ áûëî íó î÷åíü ìíîãî åâðååâ. |
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>Áîëåå òîãî, âñåãäà ÁÑÑÐ, ÓÑÑÐ, ÐÑÔÑÐ áûëè äîíîðíûìè ðåãèîíàìè, à íàöèîíàëüíûå ðåñïóáëèêè - äîòàöèîííûìè. Ñïîðíûé âîïðîñ... áàêèíñêàÿ íåôòü, òóðêìåíñêèé õëîïîê, ôåðãàíñêèå äûíè, òàäæèêñêèé ìàê è ãàøèø... |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Åâðååâ ìíîãî áûëî, äà. Íî ñòðîèëè-òî ãîñóäàðñòâî ÷üè ðóêè? Òóðêìåíñêèå, òàäæèêñêèå, åâðåéñêèå? |
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Êàê-òî ó áàáóñè
Ãóñè ñúåëè ñóñè. Ïîäàâèëèñü ãóñè ñóñè, Ãîñïîäè Èèñóñå! |
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâàÿ Ñîáîðíàÿ ìå÷åòü â Ìîñêâå áóäåò áîëüøå õðàìà Õðèñòà Ñïàñèòåëÿ
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"Ñïîðíûé âîïðîñ... " Åñëè íå çíàòü íèêóÿ, òî âñå âîïðîñû ñïîðíûå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâàÿ Ñîáîðíàÿ ìå÷åòü â Ìîñêâå áóäåò áîëüøå õðàìà Õðèñòà Ñïàñèòåëÿ
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>Íî ñòðîèëè-òî ãîñóäàðñòâî ÷üè ðóêè? Âàæíî, íå ÷üè ðóêè, à ÷üèìè ðóêàìè. >Åñëè íå çíàòü íèêóÿ, òî âñå âîïðîñû ñïîðíûå. Äà, ÿ îøèáñÿ.  Áàêó íåôòè íåò.  Ñðåäíåé Àçèè íå ðàñòåò õëîï÷àòíèê. |
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâàÿ Ñîáîðíàÿ ìå÷åòü â Ìîñêâå áóäåò áîëüøå õðàìà Õðèñòà Ñïàñèòåëÿ
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È ÷üèìè æå ðóêàìè? È ÷üèìè ãîëîâàìè? Íåôòü åñòü, äà. À âîò âîïðîñ ìîæíî, êòî æå òàêè îáó÷èë è ïîäãîòîâèë ñïåöèàëèñòîâ, êîòîðûå ñîçäàâàëè òàì ñîâðåìåííóþ íåôòåäîáûâàþùóþ ïðîìûøëåííîñòü è íàëàæèâàëè íåôòåäîáû÷ó? |
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Êàê-òî ó áàáóñè
Ãóñè ñúåëè ñóñè. Ïîäàâèëèñü ãóñè ñóñè, Ãîñïîäè Èèñóñå! |
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâàÿ Ñîáîðíàÿ ìå÷åòü â Ìîñêâå áóäåò áîëüøå õðàìà Õðèñòà Ñïàñèòåëÿ
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Fender Telecaster Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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À õóëå èì íåôòü, åñëè îíè å¸ äîáûâàòü íå óìåþò? Õëîï÷àòíèê - ýòî äà. Ýòî ñèëüíî. "Ãèìåíü Êàçàõñòàíà:  Êàçàõñòàíå ðîäíîì Ñàìûé ëó÷øèé íàâîç,  îñòàëüíîé ñðåäíåé àçèè Óäîáðåíèÿ ãîâíî-ãîâíîì" (ñ) Áîðàò Ëó÷øåãî äèñêðåäèòàòîðà àíòèôû ñëîæíî íàéòè, ÷åì òû. |
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâàÿ Ñîáîðíàÿ ìå÷åòü â Ìîñêâå áóäåò áîëüøå õðàìà Õðèñòà Ñïàñèòåëÿ
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>À âîò âîïðîñ ìîæíî, êòî æå òàêè îáó÷èë è ïîäãîòîâèë ñïåöèàëèñòîâ, êîòîðûå ñîçäàâàëè òàì ñîâðåìåííóþ íåôòåäîáûâàþùóþ ïðîìûøëåííîñòü è íàëàæèâàëè íåôòåäîáû÷ó? Äà ïîíÿòíî, êòî. Òû è ñàì ýòî çíàåøü. Íî ñ÷èòàòü þæíûå ðåñïóáëèêè èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî äîòàöèîííûìè - íåïðàâèëüíî. |
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Ïî÷åìó íåïðàâèëüíî? Äà, êîíå÷íî, ìîæíî âîñõèùàòüñÿ èõ êóëüòóðîé, ïðèðîäîé. Îòäåëüíûìè âûäàþùèìèñÿ ëè÷íîñòÿìè, êîòîðûõ îíè äàëè íàøåé ñòðàíå. Ïðèçíàâàòü èõ ðîëü â âîéíå (å¸ íèêòî íå îòðèöàåò). Òîëüêî ýòî îáùåé êàðòèíû íå ìåíÿåò - ìû èõ âûòàùèëè èç ãîâíà, â êîòîðîå îíè áåç íàñ ñåé÷àñ ïîãðóæàþòñÿ îáðàòíî. |
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Êàê-òî ó áàáóñè
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>Äà, êîíå÷íî, ìîæíî âîñõèùàòüñÿ èõ êóëüòóðîé, ïðèðîäîé. Îòäåëüíûìè âûäàþùèìèñÿ ëè÷íîñòÿìè, êîòîðûõ îíè äàëè íàøåé ñòðàíå. Ïðèçíàâàòü èõ ðîëü â âîéíå (å¸ íèêòî íå îòðèöàåò). Òîëüêî ýòî îáùåé êàðòèíû íå ìåíÿåò - ìû èõ âûòàùèëè èç ãîâíà, â êîòîðîå îíè áåç íàñ ñåé÷àñ ïîãðóæàþòñÿ îáðàòíî. Âñ¸ ýòî ïîíÿòíî, ñîãëàñåí. Íî ÿ ãîâîðþ ïðî ñûðüå è ðåñóðñû. |
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Fender Telecaster Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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"èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî äîòàöèîííûìè" Óïîòðåáëåíèå ýòèõ äâóõ ñëîâ ðÿäîì ãîâîðèò î òîòàëüíîì áàðäàêå â ãîëîâå Ñèðà. Êàê ìîæíî áûòü èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî äîòàöèîííûì - çàãàäêà. |
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À êîãäà ïðî íèõ ãîâîðÿò "äîòàöèîííûå" èìåþ â âèäó äîòàöèè â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü èíòåëëåêòóàëüíûå, òðóäîâûå è äåíåæíûå. | |
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Êàê-òî ó áàáóñè
Ãóñè ñúåëè ñóñè. Ïîäàâèëèñü ãóñè ñóñè, Ãîñïîäè Èèñóñå! |
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Ïðîùå: æðàëè îíè áîëüøå ÷åì çàðàáàòûâàëè âñþ èñòîðèþ ñîâêà. Îòðèöàòåëüíîå ñàëüäî ãîäîâîãî áàëàíñà, âèäèøü ëè. Íå âàæíî, íåôòü, íàâîç, ãðÿçü, ÷òî åù¸ îíè íàì ïîñòàâëÿëè, íàïîìíè, â íèõ âêà÷èâàëîñü áîëüøå. | |
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Øóðî èíîãäà ëó÷øå æåâàòü ÷åì ãîâîðèòü, íå ïîðòü âïå÷àòëåíèÿ îò òîïåãà ñâîèì ïðèñóòñòâèåì. Ñïàñèáî. |
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Âû ïîéìèòå, ÿ íå â ïðåòåíçèè. Êàêèå ìîãóò áûòü ïðåòåíçèè? Ñòðîèëè ÎÁÙÅÅ ãîñóäàðñòâî, åñëè äëÿ ÍÀÑ, äëÿ ÂÑÅÕ òàê áûëî íóæíî, ïîæàëóéñòà. Îäíî ãîñ-âî áûëî, ÷åãî îáèæàòüñÿ? Íî òåïåðü, êîãäà ðàçáåæàëèñü, ñëóøàòü ïðåòåíçèè ê Ðîññèè ïðîñòî ñìåøíî è ãîðüêî è îáèäíî. | |
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