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Òåìà: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Canon  
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cî çíàíèåì ÷åãî ÿ íàéäó ëó÷øóþ ðàáîòó? | |
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The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 21:55 |
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Íàó÷èòüñÿ âñåìó ýòîìó, è ìíîãî ÷åìó åù¸, ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî. 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 21:56 |
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411™, ñàì íå îñèëþ. ñ ïðåïîäîì áûñòðåå | |
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The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
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Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 21:57 |
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Ñìîòðÿ, â êàêîé îáëàñòè... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 21:59 |
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Absinth, ÿ õî÷ó íàéòè ðàáîòó ñâÿçàííóþ ñ äèçàéíîì ñàéòîâ, áàííåðîâ, áóêëåòîâ è ò.ï. | |
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The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 22:05 |
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Ñòàíü õàêåðîì !!!:idea2: Ñàéòû ñ òâîèì ôèðìåííûì "äèçàéíîì" áóäóò ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ áåøåíîé ïîïóëÿðíîñòüþ! |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 22:05 |
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Absinth, îòâàëè ïîæàéëóñòà. ìíå íóåí ñåðüåçíûé ñîâåò | |
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The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 22:19 |
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Òîãäà ïõîòîæîï. Õîòÿ... "Ïëîõîé äèçàéíåð ãîâîðèò êàêèìè ïðîãðàììàìè îí óìååò ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ, õîðîøèé ïîêàçûâàåò ñâîè ðàáîòû" À.Ëåáåäåâ È â ýòîì îí ïðàâ. Áåç ïîðòôîëèî äàæå íå ñóéñÿ, íå âîçüìóò íà íîðìàëüíóþ ðàáîòó. Èáî áåç íåãî òû äîìîõîçÿéêà îêîí÷èâøàÿ êóðñû ôîòîøîïà. È áîëåå íè÷åãî. Êóðñû íå ñïàñóò. |
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Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 22:20 |
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Ïèí÷åððð
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åñòü êóðñû âåá äàçàéíåðîâ ïðè áàóìàíñêîì èíñòèòóòå. òóäà è èäè | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 22:22 |
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ÍÀïîìèíàÞ âñåì, ÷òî ÿ èç ÏÈÒÅÐÀ! Ýíäðþ, ïîðòôîëèî ýòî äà. çíàþ î òîì ÷òî îíî íóæíî  à ñêîëüêî òàêèå êóðñû ìîãóò ñòîèòü? |
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The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 22:26 |
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Ïèí÷åððð
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íó òû ëåíòÿé ââäî â ÿíäåêñå -êóðñû âåá äèçàéí â Ïèòåðå ïðè óñëîâèè ÷òî ÿ äîëáîåá- áóäåò êó÷à ïðåäëîæåíèé | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 22:39 |
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êàêèå-íèòü äà çàêîí÷è... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 21.11.2006 23:31 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion 
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Åïò, òû êàãáý à êóðñå âîîáùå, ÷òî ïåðå÷èñëåííîå - ðàçíîïëàíîâûå â êîðíå âåùè? Êàê ñâÿçàí ÿçûê ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèÿ ñ ðåäàêòîðîì ðàñòðîâîé ãðàôèêè-òî?.. Ñàéòû äåëàåò äâå êîìàíäû: ïåðâûå ñîïñíî ïðîãðàììåðû, âòîðûå äèçàéíåðû. Åñëè õî÷åøü äåëàòü âñ¸ ñàì è íà óðîâíå - çíàòü òå ïðèäåòñÿ è ïåðâîå, è âòîðîå, è òðåòüå *î êîòîðîì çâîí âèäèìî ïîêà óñëûøàí íå áûë* |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2006 00:32 |
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Êàáàë, äà ïîíèìàþ âñå ýòî = )) è ÷åì ðàñòðîâàÿ îò âåêòîðíîé îòëè÷àåòñÿ òîæå çíàþ = ) ïðîòñî íå çíàþ â êàêóþ îáëàñòü îïäàòüñÿ |
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The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2006 00:52 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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×å çíàòü-òî - òî, ÷òî òåáå íðàâèòüñÿ äîëæíî áûòü î÷åâèäíûì. Èëè òû õî÷åøü ýòèì çàíèìàåòñÿ èáî òèïà "ùàñ ýòî ìîäíî" è ýòèì ÿêîáû ëåãêî çàðàáîòàòü õîðîøèå äåíüãè?.. Åñëè òàê ñìåþ òåáÿ áûñòðî ðàçóáåäèòü, ãåìîððîÿ òóò âûøå êðûøè è áåç ýíòóçèàçìà è æåëàíèÿ äåëî äîëãî íå ïðîòÿíåò. Êàê ó òåáÿ âîîáùå ñ ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèåì, åñëè ãîâîðèòü î ïåðâîì, è ñ õóäîæåñòâåííûì âêóñîì, óìåíèåì ðèñîâàòü îòðóêè è ïðî÷åå, åñëè ãîâîðèòü î âòîðîì? ÏÑ: âñå êóðñû, ÷åñãîâîðÿ, ïðîöåíòîâ íà 90% - ôóôëî è ñáîð äåíåã, à èõ ïðèòîê, áëàãîäàðÿ âñ¸ òàìó æå ìèôó "òèïà "ùàñ ýòî ìîäíî" è ýòèì ÿêîáû ëåãêî çàðàáîòàòü õîðîøèå äåíüãè", âåùü ïîêà äîâîëüíî ñòàáèëüíàÿ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2006 14:07 |
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Êàáàë, cêîðåå âòîðîå. â ôîòîøîïå ðèñóþ ïðîñòåíüêèå âåùè ñààñèáî çà ñîâåò |
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The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2006 21:15 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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Ðèñîâàòü íàäî â âåêòîðå, ïîäíèìàé Èëëþñòðàòîð è ÊîðåëÄðî, Ôîòîøîï íå äëÿ ýòîãî. Åñëè æå ÷åðåç ïëàíøåò, òî åùå ïî-ëþáîìó Êîðåë Ïåéíòåð íàäî îñâàèâàòü. Ëó÷øå âñåãî îáçàâåñòèñü ëèòåðàòóðîé *êîòîðîé òîæå íàâàëîì, íî òîëêîâîé ïàðà êíèã*, ñïðàøèâàòü ó îïûòíûõ ëþäåé ñîâåòû ïîõîäó ðåàëèçàöèè èäåé è íà÷èíàòü ñìåëî ïðàêòèêîâàòüñÿ. Ýòî áóäåò êóäà áûñòðåå è ïðîäóêòèâíåé, âîçìîæíî è äåøåâëå - ó÷èòü ó íàñ ýòîìó ïîêà íå óìåþò íèãäå *åñòü Áðèòàíñêàÿ Øêîëà Äèçàéíà, íî ýòî íå òâîé âàðèàíò*. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2006 22:49 |
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Èçó÷àé html, php, my-sql ïî êàêèì íèáóäü ó÷åáíèêàì â ñåòè, åñëè íå îñèëèøü, ï##äóé ê ïðåïîäó, íî êóðñû ñòîÿò ïðèìåðíî 7.000, òàêæå, åñëè òû äàëáîéîá - îíè òåáå íå ïîìîãóò  Åñëè âñå òàêè ïîéäåø íà êóðñû, çàêàí÷èâàé Âåá äèçàéí(ïî îêîí÷àíèè âûäàåòñÿ "âåá äèçàéíåð") è êóðñû ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèÿ(ïî îêîí÷àíèè âûäàåòñÿ web - ìàñòåð) Åñëè çàêîí÷èøü ýòè äâà êóðñà, è åñëè òû íå äîëáàéîá, òî áàáêè çà êóðñû áûñòðî îêóïÿòñÿ...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2006 22:56 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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Êàêàÿ íàõ ðàçíèöà ÷å òàì âûäàåòñÿ, ñïðàâêè, êîðî÷êè è ïðî÷àÿ ìóêóëàòóðà íàôåã íèêàêîìó íå íóæíà, ïðî öåííîñòü ýòèõ êóðñîâ ÿ óæå ñêàçàë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïîñîâåòóéòå êàêèå êóðñû çàêîí÷èòü (Php, java, photoshop) ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.11.2006 23:15 |
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Òîðòóãà Áóòûëêà Ðîìà 
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Äëÿ âýáà ôîòîøîïà âûøå êðûøè èìõî, ïî÷èòàé ëèòåðàòóðêó, ïîñèäè ïîâòûêàé â èíòåðôåéñ, ÷å ê ÷åìó, æåëàòåëüíî çíàòü ÷åëîâåêà êîòîðûé ñå÷åò ôèøêó, ÷òîáû îí òå íà âîïðîñû îòâå÷àë èíîãäà. Ïî ìîèì âïå÷àòëåíèÿì îò ïðîãðàìì ñåìèíàðîâ, áîëüøèíñòâî êóðñîâ ðàñ÷èòàíî íà äåòåé-äàóíîâ, õîòÿ ìîæ ýòî ó ìåíÿ óæå òàêîå âîñïðèÿòèå.  îáùåì, âî âñå ýòî ðåàëüíî âîòêíóòü ñàìîìó. È åùå. Âûáåðè ñðàçó òî íàïðàâëåíèå, ãäå òû õî÷åøü ðàáîòàòü: äèçàéí èëè ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèå. È â íåãî óñèëåííî íà÷èíàé âòûêàòü. Ïðî âòîðîå çàáóäü äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà íå áóäåøü óâåðåííî ñåáÿ ÷óâñòâîâàòü â ïåðâîì. |
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