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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 11.11.2006 15:48 |
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Áèíàðè, +1 
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 11.11.2006 19:50 |
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ïîãðàíè÷íîå ñîñòîíèå: ìåæäó îñåíüþ è çèìîé | |
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[Ethnic ambient avant-garde metal]
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 11.11.2006 21:37 |
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Ðåñïåêò, î÷åíü ñèëüíîå ôîòî. | |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 11.11.2006 21:40 |
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Ñýð Äæåê_Ê., äà? ïàñèáà)))) íàäåþñü, ÷òî îíà ïåðåäàëà â÷åðàøíþþ ìîñêîôñêóþ ïîãîäó))) |
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[Ethnic ambient avant-garde metal]
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 03:24 |
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Èñ÷î âûêëàäûâàåì! Îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå íà îòðàæåíèå íåáà â êóïîëàõ. |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 09:56 |
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Ñýð Äæåê_Ê., ê ñîæàëåíèþ íå ñðàçó ýòî âèäíî. â öâåòå áûëî á ëó÷øå)) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 10:12 |
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Äæåê,âîò îòñêàíèë ñòàðóþ ôîòêó
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[Ethnic ambient avant-garde metal]
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 12:48 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion 
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Î÷åíü òóñêëîå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 13:17 |
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Ñåíìóò, èç ÷/á ïëåíêè öâåòíóþ íèêàê íå ñäåëàòü. Õîòÿ íà ìîìåíò ñúåìêè ÿ ñàì ñîæàëåë, ÷òî çàðÿäèë ÷/á. Îäíàêî ïðè ïå÷àòè ðåçóëüòàò ïîíðàâèëñÿ. Òâîÿ ôîòêà - êëàññíàÿ! |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 13:49 |
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À ìîíà è ÿ ñâîþ ïðèøëþ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 14:18 |
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Ìà÷è! | |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 17:18 |
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Ñåíìóò, ôîòêà-ñóïåð.î÷åíü îäóõîòâîðåííî 
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 18:15 |
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ôîòêè ïðèÿòåëÿ íà ìàéîðêå | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 18:22 |
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à ýò ìîè ) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 18:43 |
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Ñýð Äæåê_Ê., Íèìëåññ, óãó))) johny_ratsen - íåïëîõàÿ äîðîãà)) òî÷íî ïåðåä ãðîçîé) |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
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Sånmuth ìíå òâîè ôîòêè íðà) è òå, êîòîðûå íà ñàéòå:) äà, ýòî áåëîðóññêàÿ ýêñïåäèöèÿ, ðàçðàçèëàñü ñòðàøíàÿ ãðîçà è ïî ýòîé äîðîãå íàì ïðåäñòîÿëî ïðîéòè 10 êì ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 22:27 |
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M10 E105 Bronica ETRSi 
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"Íåêóäà ñïåøèòü"
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 22:44 |
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Áèíàðè, èäåÿ êëàññíàÿ. Ïðàâäà, ïðîìàõ ôîêóñèðîâêè, êîíå÷íî, âèäåí. ß áû ïîäïðàâèë â ôîòîøîïå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 22:49 |
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Ïðîìàõà ôîêóñèðîâêè íåò. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:16 |
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Çíà÷èò, îíà ïðîñòî íåïðàâèëüíàÿ. Ñ òåõíè÷åñêîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ ôîòî íåóäà÷íîå. | |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:32 |
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À ìíå êàæåòñÿ íàîáîðîò. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:33 |
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Ñïðîñè îá ýòîì ó ïðîôåññèîíàëîâ. Ìíå èõ îòâåò çàðàíåå ÿñåí. | |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:36 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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Íèêàêîãî ïðîìàõà òàì íåò, ýòî ýëåìåíòàðíûé êîìïîçèöèîííûé ýôôåêò. Èç êó÷è âûñòàâëåííûõ òóò ôîòî, ýòî îäíî èç ïàðû äåéñòâèòåëüíî óäà÷íûõ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:37 |
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Äàéòå ìíå, äàéòå ìíå ïðîôåññèîíàëà, ÿ îáÿçàòåëüíî åãî ñïðîøó. Îäèí çíàêîìûé ìíå ïðîôåññèîíàë, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íå â àñüêå, à òî ÿ á óæå äàâíî ñïðîñèë. Ìíå èõ îòâåò çàðàíåå ÿñåí - ñêðîìíîñòü ïðåò? Èëè ïðîùå ýòî íàçâàòü íåïðîôåññèîíàëèçìîì? |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:40 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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Ýòî íåêîìïåòåíòíîñòü, âîò è âñ¸) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:44 |
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ß íèêîãäà íå íàçûâàë ñåáÿ ïðîôè, èáî òàêîâûì íå ÿâëÿþñü. Äàëåå, ÿ íå ñêàçàë, ÷òî ôîòî ïëîõîå, ÿ íàçâàë åãî òåõíè÷åñêè íåãðàìîòíûì, à ñâîå ìíåíèå ïðî òåõíàðíîñòü ÿ óæå ïðèâîäèë ðàíåå. Êàáàë, ïîêàæè ñâîþ êîìïåòåíòíîñòü, âûëîæè ïÿòîê ñâîèõ ðàáîò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:49 |
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Ñåð Äæåê: Âåñü ôîðóì óæå çíàåò î òîì, ÷òî òû êðóòîé ïðîôè èñêóñòâà ôîòîãðàôèè. Íåïëîõîé ïèàð.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:51 |
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Ãðóçîâèê, âåñü ôîðóì çíàåò î òîì, ÷òî ÿ ëþáèòåëü è íå ñêðûâàþ ýòîãî. Ïðîôè - ýòî ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé çàðàáàòûâàåò ôîòîãðàôèåé è/èëè äåëàåò âûñòàâêè. Çäåñü òàêèõ íåò. Õîòÿ ÿ çíàþ îäíîãî ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûé ìîã áû. Íî ýòî íå ÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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ß íå ôîòîãðàô, íî ñ ôîòî â òîì ÷èñëå ðàáîòàþ êàæäûé äåíü, èáî ÷àñòü ìîåé ïðîôåññèè, òàê ÷òî íå÷åãî íàèâíî äóòüñÿ, êîãäà âäðóã òåáÿ îäåðãèâàþò *âîîáùå ãîâîðÿ òóò ìîæíî áûëî ðàñêðèòèêîâàòü 90% âûëîæåííûõ ñíèìêîâ òîëüêî ïî ïàðå ïàðàìåòðîâ öâåòîêîððåêòèè è íå áîëåå, è ñîîòâåòñòâåííî êîììåíòàðèåâ ê íèì ïîëíûõ âîñõèùåíèÿ, ðóêîïëåñêàíèÿ è òý äý* Åñëè õî÷åøü ïîãîâîðèòü îá ýòîì - íà÷èíàé - ïî ïóíêòàì, ãäå è ÷òî íåïðàâèëüíî, à íå èç ñåðèè "ýòî ïëîõî, ìîè äðóçüÿ ïðîôåññèîíàëû ýòî ïîäòâåðäÿò, ìíå âñ¸ çàðàíåå èçâåñòíî". Òàì è ïîñìîòðèì, êòî êîìïåòåíòåí, à êòî ïîñöàòü çàøåë 
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2006 23:59 |
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À ìíå ïîäîáíàÿ äèñêóññèÿ áóäåò î÷åíü èíòåðåñíà! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
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Êàáàë, ÎÊ. Åñëè òû åæåäíåâíî ðàáîòàåøü ñ ôîòî, òî óæå êîìïåòåíòåí. Ïîñëåäíÿÿ ðàáîòà Áèíàðè. Ïåðåäíèé êðàé äèñêà íåîïðàâäàííî ðàçìûò. Òàêîå îùóùåíèå, ÷òî ôîêóñèðîâêà âåëàñü òî÷å÷íî ïî öåíòðó ñòðåëîê. Ïðè ýòîì îáúåêòû, êîòîðûå íàõîäÿòñÿ ÄÀËÜØÅ ïåðåäíåãî êàðÿ äèñêà, óæå â ôîêóñå. Îòñþäà ýôôåêò, êàê áóäòî íèæíþþ ÷àñòü êàðòî÷êè ïðîñòî "çàáëþðèëè" â ÔØ, ïðè÷åì íåïîíÿòíî çà÷åì. Òî÷å÷åíàÿ ôîêóñèðîâêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íåîïðàâäàííîé. Íî äàæå åñëè îíà ïî çàìûñëó àâòîðà è íóæíà, ÿ áû ðàçâåðíóë ÷àñû ñòðåëêàìè âíèç, ò.å. òàê, ÷òîáû îíè íàõîäèëèñü íà ïåðåäíåì êðàå äèñêà. Íàäïèñü "Ïîëåò" â äàííîì ñëó÷àå ðîëè íå èãðàåò. |
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Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 00:02 |
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ÇÛ: ìåðÿòüñÿ ïèïèñüêàìè ÿ íå ñîáèðàþñü
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 00:15 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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Ïåðåäíèé êðàé äèñêà íåîïðàâäàííî ðàçìûò. Òàêîå îùóùåíèå, ÷òî ôîêóñèðîâêà âåëàñü òî÷å÷íî ïî öåíòðó ñòðåëîê. Ñîïñíî ýòèì òû ïîäâåðäèë òî, ÷òî òåõíè÷åñêè ôîòî ïî äàííîìó ïàðàìåòðó êàê ðàç-òàêè âûïîëíåííî áîëåå ìåíåå äîñòîéíî, èáî êîìïîçèöèîííî è ïðåäïîëîãàåòñÿ ñ ôîêóñèðîâàòü âíèìàíèå íà öèôåðáëàò, òî òî÷íåå åãî ÷àñòü è ñòðåëêè, ñòÿíóâ îñòàëüíîå â ôîí. Íèæíÿÿ ÷àñòü äîëæíà áûòü òàêîé ÷òîáû ñîõðàíèòü âîñïðèÿòèå ðàìêè, ïîëíîöåííîñòè è çàâåðøåííîñòè îïÿòü æå êîìïàçèöèîííîì ïëàíå *õîòü ýòî âûïîëíåííî è ñ ãðåõàìè, ñî ñìåùåíèåì, ñóòü íå â ýòîì - óáðàâ åå, çàðåçàåòñÿ åñëè íå âñå, òî ìíîãîå*. Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî ðàçâîðà÷èâàòü ñòðåëêè âíèç, ñìåùàÿ öåíòð òóäà æå òàêæå íåëüçÿ, ýòî áóäåò îùóùàòüñÿ ìãíîâåííî. Çàäà÷à ôîòîãðàôà òàêàÿ, êàê ñäåëàòü ñíèìîê ãëóïîé êàìåðû, öåïëÿþùåé âñ¸ îáðàçîì ïîñòðîåííûì óæå íàøèì ãëàçîì *êîòîðûé âñåãäà è ïðè ëþáûõ óñëîâèÿõ âûäåëÿåò îáüåêò è îñòàëüíîå âûøâûðèâàåò â ôîí* çäåñü ìîæíî ñ÷èòàòü âûïîëíåííîé, à ó÷èòûâàÿ èäåéíîñòü è íàïðàâëåííîñòü ñàìîé ðàáîòû - ôîòîãðàôèþ ìîæíî ñ÷èòàòü çà÷îòíîé, ÷åãî, ïîâòîðþñü íå ñêàæåøü ôàêòè÷åñêè íè îá îäíîé èç ðàíåå âûëàæåííûõ çäåñü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 00:18 |
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M10 E105 Bronica ETRSi
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Âñå. Òåïåðü ÿ ïîéäó ñïàòü è ìíå ïðèñíÿòñÿ êðàñèâûå ñíû. Ñïàñèáî, Êàáàë.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 00:24 |
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SPb programmin’, effectin’, beatmakin’, brainf#ckin’
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Íàñ÷åò ïîâîðòà ñòðåëîê ñîãëàñåí - îíè ðàñïîëîæåíû èìåííî òàê, êàê íàäî. Íî ïîñìîòðèòå íà ïðèêðåïëåííûé ðèñóíîê. Ãðàíèöû ëåæàùåé â ôîêóñå çîíû - íåðîâíûå. Ýòî åùå áîëüøå óñèëèâàåò îùóùåíèå õàîòè÷íîãî ïðèìåíåíèÿ Blur Tool, ÷òî ïîðòèò âïå÷àòëåíèå îò äåéñòâèòåëüíî õîðîøåé ïî çàäóìêå (è ÷àñòè÷íî - ïî ðåàëèçàöèè) ðàáîòû. |
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 00:27 |
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SPb programmin’, effectin’, beatmakin’, brainf#ckin’
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Êàáàë, è åùå ïàðó âîïðîñîôô. Êàêèå ôîòî èç âûëîæåííûõ â ýòîé òåìå åùå ÿâëÿþòñÿ çà÷îòíûìè èëè áëèçêèìè ê òîìó? Ïî÷åìó íåçà÷îò äðóãèì?
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 00:40 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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Ãðàíèöû ëåæàùåé â ôîêóñå çîíû - íåðîâíûå ß óæå ñêàçàë, ÷òî íèæíÿÿ ÷àñòü èìååò îãðåõè è ñìåùåíèå, îíè åñòü, ïîðòèò âïå÷àòëåíèå, íî íå íà ñòîëüêî, ÷òîáû áðàêîâàòü ðàáîòó *ðàçóìååòñÿ âñ¸ ðåøàåò óðîâåíü íà êàêîì ôîòî ðàñìàòðèâàòü è êóäà îíî, ê ïðèìåðó, èäåò äàëüøå - äëÿ ôîðóìà áîëåå ÷åì òåðïèìî)*, òåì áîëåå ìàëî ëè êàêàÿ çàäóìêà â òîì ÷èñëå ñ ñîçäàíèåì îùóùåíèÿ õàîòè÷íîñòè èìååò - ìû âåäü ãîâîðèì î âðåìåíè))) *øóòêà*Êàêàèå çà÷îòíûå, ñðàçó òÿæåëî âñïîìíèòü òåì áîåå îðèåíòèðóÿñü íå ïî èñõîäíèêàì, à ïî ìåëêèì *ïðåâüþøêàì* âûëîæåííûì çäåñü, áåç âîçìîæíîñòè ðàññìîòðåòü äåòàëüíî. Öâåòíûå âñå ñîïñíî íåçà÷îòíûå, êàêèå-òî áîëüøå, êàêèå-òî ìåíüøå, íî âñå. ×åðíî-áåëûå õîòåëîñü áû ïîñìîòðåòü áëèæå - åñëè ÷åðíûå ïëàøêè ìåñòî òåíåé òàê è èäóò â îðèãèíàëå, òî òîæå ïëîõî, áåç äåòàëèçàöèè ìîíîõðîì âîîáùå òåðÿåò ñìûñë ïî îïðåäåëåíèþ) Íà áóäóùåå: ðàáîòàÿ ñ ðàñòðîì *ðå÷ü èìåííî î öâåòîêîððåêöèè* âûòÿãèâàåòå êàíàëû òîëüêî(!) êðèâûìè äëÿ êàæäîãî èç íèõ *íó è åùå ïàðîé ôèëüòðîâ â ÷àñòíîì ïîðÿäêå*, íèêàêèõ áåãóíêîâ ñ ÿðêîñòüþ, êîíòðàñòàìè, ñàòóðåéøåíàìè è ïðî÷èì, íå ãîâðÿ óæå î àâòî-óðîâíÿõ è òàê äàëåå, íå ìîæåò áûòü è ðå÷è
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 01:18 |
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SPb programmin’, effectin’, beatmakin’, brainf#ckin’
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Êàáàë, òîãäà ïîñëåäíèé âîïðîñ íà ýòó òåìó. Ýòî çà÷îò èëè íåò? è ïî÷åìó?
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We're leaving Babylon, we're going to our Father's land.
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Òåìà: Re: Èñêóññòâî ôîòîãðàôèè. Âòîðàÿ òåìà.
Âðåìÿ: 15.11.2006 01:27 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã drums & percussion
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Åñëè åñòü å¸ èñõîäíèê - çàêèíü â ÿùåê, åñëè íåñëîæíî, ïîñìîòðþ äåòàëüíî *serpentlorge@mail.ru*, à òàê ìåíÿ òîëüêî îäèí íèæíèé ëåâûé óãîë ïðèâîäèò â óæîñ, ðóêè òÿíóòñÿ ê USM, íî îòäåðãèâàþòñÿ èç-çà çåðíèñòîñòè *âèäèìî ôîòî ñêàíèðîâàííîå, õîòÿ áûòü ìîæåò âñÿêîå..* | |
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