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 ñìûñëå, êàÿòüñÿ íàçàä? Èëè âûêàèâàòüñÿ... îòêàèâàòüñÿ - êàê ýòî áóäåò ïðàâèëüíî ïî-ðóññêè? "Ðîññèÿ íå íåñ¸ò îòâåòñòâåííîñòè çà ìàññîâûé ðàññòðåë ïîëüñêèõ îôèöåðîâ â Êàòûíè – òàêîå ðåøåíèå ïðèíÿë íåäàâíî Åâðîïåéñêèé ñóä ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà. Ðåøåíèå ñåíñàöèîííîå: âûõîäèò, ÷òî ïîñëåäíèå 20 ëåò ðóêîâîäñòâî íàøåé ñòðàíû íåóñòàííî êàÿëîñü â ïðåñòóïëåíèè, êîòîðîå â 40-å ãîäû ñîâåðøèë êòî-òî äðóãîé. Âûõîäèò, ÷òî äîêóìåíòû î êàòûíñêîì ðàññòðåëå, êîòîðûå ïîÿâèëèñü â êîíöå 80-õ èç ðóêàâà ÷ëåíà Ïîëèòáþðî ÖÊ ÊÏÑÑ Àëåêñàíäðà ßêîâëåâà, íå áîëåå ÷åì ôàëüøèâêà – ñóä äàæå íå ïðèíÿë èõ ê ðàññìîòðåíèþ." Øî æ òâîðèòñÿ-òî, íåóæåëè ñàìè ñåáÿ îãîâîðèëè?  È ïëàòèòü òåïåðü, íåáîñü, íå ïðèäåòñÿ - âîò âåçóõà. Ëèøü áû ñíîâà ñåáÿ íå îãîâîðèòü... 
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Ñòàëèí ìîæåò ñïàòü ñïîêîéíî. Â òåìó ïðèçûâàåòñÿ Ëåïïåð. 
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"How do you sleep at night, with the borrowed dreams from a broken past?"
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>íåóæåëè ñàìè ñåáÿ îãîâîðèëè? ïî õîäó ñêàç ïðî óíòåð-îôèöåðñêóþ âäîâó âûøåë 
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Ñîáñòâåííî, äèñêóññèé â ðóíåòå ñåé÷àñ ïðîèñõîäèò î÷åíü ìàëî - îáèòàòåëè çîíû .ru ïî÷òè ñðàçó ïåðåõîäÿò ê òîìó, êòî ñ êåì â ÷üåì ñåìåéñòâå èìåë èíòèìíóþ ñâÿçü. Ïðèçûâ âûæèãàòü íàïàëìîì âñåõ îïïîíåíòîâ, åâðååâ è âåëîñèïåäèñòîâ, ñëó÷àåòñÿ óæå íà òðåòüåì.
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>Ñòàëèí ìîæåò ñïàòü ñïîêîéíî. >Â òåìó ïðèçûâàåòñÿ Ëåïïåð. Íå óñïåë íàïèñàòü, òû îïèðèäèë. Ùàñ îí ðàññêàæåò, ÷òî ðàññòðåëÿë òèïî ÑÑÑÐ, à Ðîññèÿ íå âèíîâàòàÿ.  Íî, âñå ðàâíî, íåìíîæêî ïîïëàòèòü è ïîêàÿòüñÿ-òî ìîæíî áûëî?
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Ìàðèèíêà Ïàõîìîâíà 
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Stop , áîëüøàÿ Åâðîïà êèíóëà ïîëÿêîâ â î÷åðåäíîé ðàç, à îíè âñå ïðîñÿòñÿ íà ðó÷êè. 
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"...äóøîé ÿ ñ âàìè, íà êàòîðãå â Ñèáèðè, à òåëîì ê ñîæàëåíèþ çäåñü, â Öþðèõå â ãîñòèíèöå". (ñ) Â.È. Ëåíèí
ÿ òåáÿ ïî àéêüþ ïðîáüþ, ó ìåíÿ áðàò - ìåíò. Òû çà ####à îòâåòèøü, ïîíåë?! Òû òðóï óæå! Âñ¸!! ÄÀÂÀÉ ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÍÜß! |
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ÑÒÎÏ à òû íå â êóðñå ÷òî ãîëîäóõó 1946 íà Óêðàèíå óñòðîèë âàø êàê áû Õðóùåâ âàø êàê áû ñîîòå÷åñòâåííèê, åìó äàæå Ñòàëèí ñêàçàë ïîçæå -->>Íèêèòà îñòàíîâèñü íå ÿ ïîíèìàþ îí ïîòîì è Êðûì îòäàë ïîíèìàÿ òÿæåñòü âèíû.... |
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Î÷åíü ïëîõîé ìîä
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Åñëè âñ¸ ñåðü¸çíî, òî ïðè æåëàíèè ìîæíî çàñòàâèòü êàÿòüñÿ òåëåêîìïàíèè, ñíèìàþùèå äîêôèëüìû ñ ïðîïàãàíäîé, íàïðèìåð. | |
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>ÑÒÎÏ à òû íå â êóðñå ÷òî ãîëîäóõó 1946 íà Óêðàèíå óñòðîèë âàø êàê áû Õðóùåâ À ÿ äóìàë, ÷òî öóãóíäåð íà Óêðàèíå â 1946 ãîäó óñòðîèë êàãáû òâîé Ãèòëåð, óíè÷òîæèâ ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå ÷òî íàä çåìëåé òîð÷àëî...  Íåò, ýòî îêàçûâàåööà íàø Õðóùåâ (íàø ñîîòå÷åñòâåííèê!) äîâåë Óêðàèíó ê 1946-ìó ãîäó äî òàêîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ... Âåê æèâè - âåê ó÷èñü. |
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Îêñþìîðîí Àìèêîøîíñòâî Áàòðàõîìèîìàõèÿ 
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Îïÿòü óò¸ðëè íîñ ïîëüñêà êóðâå.   
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Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow.
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Ñïá Êîðåéñêåé ËýÒýÄý ÌÍ-1000 
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Ïîôåã.
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Êîãäà ïûòàåøüñÿ ñìîòðåòü íà âåùè òðåçâî, íåâîëüíî âîçíèêàåò æåëàíèå âûïèòü. (ñ) Âåëèêèé ÂÖ
Åñòü òàêàÿ ïðîôåññèÿ - ñåáÿ îò Ðîäèíû çàùèùàòü.. (c) Zoebeast. Russian grind z-squad. |
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ß ýòî âñå ñ òîëèêîé èðîíèè ÑÒÎÏ Îíè âîîáùå ìîëîäöà â Åâðîñîþçå ñàìûå ÷åëîâå÷íûå îáðàçîâàííûå è òîëñòûå êëîïû è ïàðàçèòû ïðè ýòîì òîëëåðàíòíûå ê ëþáîìó äðóãîìó êëîïó êîòîðãî íåäàé áîã äàâÿò êàê ãåììîðîððîé â êàê áû íèçøèõ ñîîáùåñòâàõ(ñòðàíàõ), ñðàçó êàê îäèí íà çàùèòó âñòàíóò, ãëàâíîå ÷òîá êðîâóøêè ïîáîëüøå âûäîèòü
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Òóò òîíêèé ìîìåíò - îíè óòâåðäèëè îôèöèàëüíóþ òî÷êó çðåíèÿ êàê ôàêò, ÷òî â Êàòûíè âñåõ íåìöû ðàññòðåëÿëè, èëè îíè ñêàçàëè, ÷òî Ðîññèéñêàÿ Ôåäåðàöèÿ íå íåñ¸ò îòâåòñòâåííîñòè çà ýòî ïðåñòóïëåíèå, äàæå åñëè åãî ÑÑÑÐ ñîâåðøèë? | |
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Óðàíèóñ Hamer F#CK Yeah 
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Êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà ÷üè äåäû òàì ñòðåëè äðóã â äðóãà 70 ëåò íàçàä | |
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Ýòî æåíó ìîæíî èìåòü ÷óæóþ,à èíñòðóìåíò íóæíî èìåòü ñâîé
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Îäèíöîâî Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà 
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Ïðèâåò âñåì. Óæ ñêîëüêî ðàç ãîâîðèëè: íå äåëàéòå âûâîäîâ, íå ïðî÷èòàâ èñòî÷íèê, à íåêîòîðûå âñ¸ êàê ãëóõèå.  Íåäóðíî áû îçíàêîìèòüñÿ ñ ñàìèì ðåøåíèåì, ÷òîáû ïîíÿòü î ÷¸ì îíî, âûëîæèòü ññûëêó è ò.ï. Íî ðàç ýòîãî íåò, ïðèâåä¸ì àëüòåðíàòèâíûé èñòî÷íèê. Òîëüêî íå àíãàæèðîâàííûé èñòî÷íèê (ñàì ÿçûê, êîòîðûì íàïèñàíà ñòàòüÿ, ãîâîðèò î ìíîãîì), à äîâîëüíî íåéòðàëüíûé. Ñóäèòå ñàìè: Åâðîïåéñêèé Ñóä ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà ðàññìîòðåë äâå ïðåòåíçèè çàÿâèòåëåé ê ðîññèéñêèì âëàñòÿì. Ïåðâàÿ èç íèõ êàñàëàñü òîãî, ÷òî âëàñòè íå îñóùåñòâèëè ýôôåêòèâíîãî ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ îáñòîÿòåëüñòâ Êàòûíñêîãî ðàññòðåëà. Ïðîâåäåíèå òàêîâîãî ïðåäñòàâëÿåò ñîáîé îäíî èç îáÿçàòåëüñòâ ãîñóäàðñòâà, âûòåêàþùèõ èç ïðàâà íà æèçíü, ãàðàíòèðîâàííîãî ñòàòüåé 2 Êîíâåíöèè î çàùèòå ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà è îñíîâíûõ ñâîáîä. Âòîðàÿ ïðåòåíçèÿ çàÿâèòåëåé çàêëþ÷àëàñü â òîì, ÷òî ðîññèéñêèå âëàñòè íàðóøèëè â îòíîøåíèè íèõ ñòàòüþ 3 Êîíâåíöèè, ãàðàíòèðóþùóþ, â ÷àñòíîñòè, ïðàâî íå ïîäâåðãàòüñÿ áåñ÷åëîâå÷íîìó è óíèæàþùåìó äîñòîèíñòâî îáðàùåíèþ, îòêàçàâøèñü ïðåäîñòàâëÿòü ñâåäåíèÿ î ñóäüáå èõ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ è ïîñòîÿííî îòêàçûâàÿ â óäîâëåòâîðåíèè âñåõ èõ õîäàòàéñòâ, íàïðàâëåííûõ íà ïîëó÷åíèå èíôîðìàöèè îá ýòîì. Ñâîèì Ïîñòàíîâëåíèåì Ïàëàòà èç 7 Ñóäåé Åâðîïåéñêîãî Ñóäà ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà 5 ãîëîñàìè ïðîòèâ 2 (Ñóäåé îò Ðîññèè è ×åõèè) ðåøèëà, ÷òî ïî îòíîøåíèþ ê çàÿâèòåëÿì, ðîäèâøèìñÿ äî 1940 ãîäà è èìåâøèì ýìîöèîíàëüíóþ ñâÿçü ñî ñâîèìè ðîäñòâåííèêàìè — æåðòâàìè Êàòûíñêîãî ðàññòðåëà, ðîññèéñêèå âëàñòè ïðîÿâèëè áåñ÷åëîâå÷íîå îáðàùåíèå â íàðóøåíèå ñòàòüè 3 Êîíâåíöèè, à òàêæå åäèíîãëàñíî ðåøèëà, ÷òî â îòíîøåíèè äðóãèõ çàÿâèòåëåé ñòàòüÿ 3 Êîíâåíöèè íàðóøåíà íå áûëà. Íàêîíåö, 4 ãîëîñàìè Ñóäåé (îò Ðîññèè, Óêðàèíû, ×åõèè è Ñëîâåíèè) ïðîòèâ 3 Ïàëàòà ñîãëàñèëàñü ñ óòâåðæäåíèÿìè ðîññèéñêèõ âëàñòåé î òîì, ÷òî Ñòðàñáóðãñêèé Ñóä íå èìååò ïðàâà ðàññìàòðèâàòü ïî ñóùåñòâó æàëîáó íà íàðóøåíèå ñòàòüè 2 Êîíâåíöèè â ñâÿçè ñ ïðåäïîëàãàåìîé íåýôôåêòèâíîñòüþ ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ îáñòîÿòåëüñòâ Êàòûíñêîãî ðàññòðåëà, ò.ê. ïîäàâëÿþùåå áîëüøèíñòâî ïðîöåññóàëüíûõ äåéñòâèé â ðàìêàõ ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ èìåëè ìåñòî äî 05 ìàÿ 1998 ãîäà, êîãäà Êîíâåíöèÿ î çàùèòå ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà è îñíîâíûõ ñâîáîä âñòóïèëà â ñèëó â îòíîøåíèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, à ïîñëå óêàçàííîé äàòû íå áûëî ïîëó÷åíî íèêàêèõ äîêàçàòåëüñòâ, êîòîðûå ñâèäåòåëüñòâîâàëè áû î íåîáõîäèìîñòè ïðîâåäåíèÿ íîâîãî ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ â ðàìêàõ ïðîöåññóàëüíûõ îáÿçàòåëüñòâ Ðîññèè, âûòåêàþùèõ èç ñòàòüè 2 Êîíâåíöèè, ðàñïðîñòðàíÿþùåéñÿ íà íåå òîëüêî ñ 05 ìàÿ 1998 ãîäà è íå èìåþùåé îáðàòíîé ñèëû. Âîò ýòî ðåàëüíî, ÷òî åñòü â ðåçîëþòèâíîé ÷àñòè ðåøåíèÿ. Åãî ñóòü, òî, î ÷¸ì áûë ñïîð. È äàëüøå áóäòî ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ ÌÔÄ îáðàùàåòñÿ âíèìàíèå:  ñâÿçè ñ ðàñïðîñòðàíèâøèìèñÿ â èíòåðíåòå óòâåðæäåíèÿìè, ÷òî Åâðîïåéñêèé Ñóä ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà ïðèçíàë Ðîññèþ íåâèíîâíîé ìàññîâîì ðàññòðåëå ïîëÿêîâ ïîä Êàòûíüþ, îáðàùàþ âíèìàíèå, ÷òî Ñòðàñáóðãñêèé Ñóä â ïðèíöèïå íå ðàññìàòðèâàë ïî ñóùåñòâó âîïðîñ î òîì, âèíîâàòà ëè Ðîññèÿ â ðàññòðåëå êàê òàêîâîì. Ïîýòîìó îí íå ïðèíèìàë è íå ìîã ïðèíÿòü ðåøåíèÿ î íåâèíîâíîñòè èëè âèíîâíîñòè Ðîññèè â ðàññòðåëå ïîëÿêîâ. Áîëåå òîãî, çàÿâèòåëè ïî äàííîìó äåëó â ïðèíöèïå íå îáðàùàëèñü â Åâðîïåéñêèé Ñóä ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà ñ òðåáîâàíèåì ïðèçíàòü Ðîññèþ âèíîâíîé â êàê òàêîâîì ðàññòðåëå èõ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ, ïîñêîëüêó â äàííîé ÷àñòè îíè èçíà÷àëüíî ïðèçíàâàëè, ÷òî Ñòðàñáóðãñêèé Ñóä íå èìååò ïðàâà ðàññìàòðèâàòü æàëîáó íà ïðåäïîëàãàåìûå íàðóøåíèÿ, èìåâøèå ìåñòî â 1940 ãîäó, ò.å. çà 58 ëåò äî âñòóïëåíèÿ Êîíâåíöèè â ñèëó â îòíîøåíèè Ðîññèè. Åñòü îôèöèàëüíûé ïðåññ-ðåëèç ÅÑÏ× íà ðóññêîì ÿçûêå: Êàêèå åù¸ âîïðîñû? Ìîæåò, âñ¸-òàêè íå áóäåì âåðèòü íà ñëîâî ñîìíèòåëüíûì èñòî÷íèêàì, à ñàìè èçó÷èì ôàêòû? ×èòàòü äîêóìåíòû, çíàåòå ëè, ïîëåçíî. À íå æ¸ëòóþ ïðåññó. |
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Òû âêðàòöå îáúÿñíè - òàê íàäî ïëàòèòü è êàÿòüñÿ? Èëè íå?
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>Òû âêðàòöå îáúÿñíè - òàê íàäî ïëàòèòü è êàÿòüñÿ? Èëè íå? Ïëàòèòü çà Êàòûíü, âèäèìî, íåò, çà íàøó ñóäåáíóþ ñèñòåìó, âèäèìî, äà. Êàÿòüñÿ - íó ðàçâå ÷òî ñîâåñòëèâûì êîììóíèñòàì, òî åñòü, íå íàì ñ òîáîé. Àäåêâàòàì äîñòàòî÷íî ïðèçíàâàòü (åñëè òû íå êîììóíèñò, òî ïðè÷¸ì çäåñü?), à îò ñòàëèíèñòîâ íèêòî ïîêàÿíèÿ íå æä¸ò - ñìûñë æäàòü? Êàê-òî òàê, Ñòîï, êàê-òî òàê... |
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>Òû âêðàòöå îáúÿñíè - òàê íàäî ïëàòèòü è êàÿòüñÿ? Èëè íå? î÷åâèäíî ÷òî íåò 
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>Ïëàòèòü çà Êàòûíü, âèäèìî, íåò, çà íàøó ñóäåáíóþ ñèñòåìó, âèäèìî, äà. Êàÿòüñÿ - íó ðàçâå ÷òî ñîâåñòëèâûì êîììóíèñòàì, òî åñòü, íå íàì ñ òîáîé. Àäåêâàòàì äîñòàòî÷íî ïðèçíàâàòü (åñëè òû íå êîììóíèñò, òî ïðè÷¸ì çäåñü?), à îò ñòàëèíèñòîâ íèêòî ïîêàÿíèÿ íå æä¸ò - ñìûñë æäàòü? Êàê-òî òàê, Ñòîï, êàê-òî òàê... îïÿòü íèôèãà íå ïîíÿòíî.
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Buck , íà îñíîâàíèè ìíîãîìåñÿ÷íûõ íàáëþäåíèé ÿ äåëàþ âûâîä, ÷òî òåáå ïîñëå 0:00 ìíîãîå íèôèãà íå ïîíÿòíî. Ïåðå÷èòàé òî æå, äîïóñòèì, çàâòðà â îáåä. | |
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>íà îñíîâàíèè ìíîãîìåñÿ÷íûõ íàáëþäåíèé ÿ äåëàþ âûâîä, ÷òî òåáå ïîñëå 0:00 ìíîãîå íèôèãà íå ïîíÿòíî. òû çà ìíîé íàáëþäàåøü.  >Ïåðå÷èòàé òî æå, äîïóñòèì, çàâòðà â îáåä. õîðîøî, 
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>>>Leper_Messiah ß íè êàâî íå óáèâàë òàê ÷òî è êàÿöà ìíå íå â ÷åì, à åñëè ïðè ÑÑÑÐ ÷òîòî òàì òàêîå áûëî òî ýòî êàíå÷íî ïå÷àëüíî íî ïî÷åìó ðàç óæ íà òî ïîøëî îòâå÷àòü äîëæíà òîëüêî Ðîññèÿ âåäü è äóðàêó ÿñíî ÷òî Áåðèÿ è Äæóãàøâèëëè ýòî äàëåêî íå Ðóññêèå ôàìèëèèý. >>>îïÿòü íèôèãà íå ïîíÿòíî. Äû âñå ïîíÿòíî âàé âàé.. |
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ã.Âëàäèìèð
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Leper_Messiah , èì èìèäæ äåðæàòü íàäî. Ýòî æ òîêà ñ íàñ òðåáóþò ñðàçó è âñ¸. À èì ìîíà è ïîêîêåòíè÷àòü... Âðåìÿ âûëå÷èò. |
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Îäèíöîâî Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà
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The Man From , ÿ íå íàø¸ë ïîêà ðåøåíèå íà ðóññêîì, íî ïðåññ-ðåëèç íà ðóññêîì âïîëíå ñåáå äà¸ò ïðåäñòàâëåíèå. >èì èìèäæ äåðæàòü íàäî. Ýòî æ òîêà ñ íàñ òðåáóþò ñðàçó è âñ¸. À èì ìîíà è ïîêîêåòíè÷àòü... Êîìó èì? Ýòî êîíêðåòíîå äåëî î òîì, ÷òî íàøè ñóäû íàðóøàþò ïðàâî íà ïðàâîñóäèå. Íå óìíîæàé ñóùíîñòåé, Îêêàìà íà òåáÿ íåò. |
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>Êîìó èì? Ûâðîïåéöàì. >Ýòî êîíêðåòíîå äåëî î òîì, ÷òî íàøè ñóäû íàðóøàþò ïðàâî íà ïðàâîñóäèå. Äà ëàíà íàôèã. Íåõàé ñ ôàëüøèâêàìè ðàçáåðóòñÿ äëÿ íà÷àëà... À òî èøü... |
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Ìàðèèíêà Ïàõîìîâíà
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>íî ïî÷åìó ðàç óæ íà òî >ïîøëî îòâå÷àòü äîëæíà òîëüêî Ðîññèÿ âåäü è äóðàêó ÿñíî ÷òî >Áåðèÿ è Äæóãàøâèëëè ýòî äàëåêî íå Ðóññêèå ôàìèëèèý. ÐÔ ïðàâîïðååìíèöà ÑÑÑÐ ïîòîìó è ïðåòåíçèÿ ê ÐÔ,à âîò âîïðîñ îáîñíîâàííîñòè óæå äèñêóññèîííûé, à òâîé òîëüêî ãëóïûé
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"...äóøîé ÿ ñ âàìè, íà êàòîðãå â Ñèáèðè, à òåëîì ê ñîæàëåíèþ çäåñü, â Öþðèõå â ãîñòèíèöå". (ñ) Â.È. Ëåíèí
ÿ òåáÿ ïî àéêüþ ïðîáüþ, ó ìåíÿ áðàò - ìåíò. Òû çà ####à îòâåòèøü, ïîíåë?! Òû òðóï óæå! Âñ¸!! ÄÀÂÀÉ ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÍÜß! |
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Ìàðèèíêà Ïàõîìîâíà
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"...äóøîé ÿ ñ âàìè, íà êàòîðãå â Ñèáèðè, à òåëîì ê ñîæàëåíèþ çäåñü, â Öþðèõå â ãîñòèíèöå". (ñ) Â.È. Ëåíèí
ÿ òåáÿ ïî àéêüþ ïðîáüþ, ó ìåíÿ áðàò - ìåíò. Òû çà ####à îòâåòèøü, ïîíåë?! Òû òðóï óæå! Âñ¸!! ÄÀÂÀÉ ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÍÜß! |
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>Àäåêâàòàì äîñòàòî÷íî ïðèçíàâàòü (åñëè òû íå êîììóíèñò, òî ïðè÷¸ì çäåñü?), à îò ñòàëèíèñòîâ íèêòî ïîêàÿíèÿ íå æä¸ò - ñìûñë æäàòü? Êàê-òî òàê, Ñòîï, êàê-òî òàê... Àãà. Òî åñòü, â ýíòîò ÅÑÏ× áåññìûñëåííî ïîäàâàòü êàñàòåëüíî ðàññòðåëîâ è óáèéñòâ ñîâåòñêèõ âîåííîïëåííûõ â ïîëüñêèõ êîíöëàãåðÿõ òèïà Òóõîëüñêîãî, Áåëîñòîöêîãî, Âàäîâèöêîãî... Òîæå íå áóäåò íè ïëàòû, íè êàÿíèÿ. Êàêîé-òî áåñïîíòîâûé ñóä. |
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Îäèíöîâî Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà
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>ïîòîìó è ïðåòåíçèÿ ê ÐÔ ß íå ñëûøàë, ÷òî ÐÔ õîòÿò çàñòàâèòü ïëàòèòü çà ðàññòðåë ïîëÿêîâ â Êàòûíè. È äóìàþ, òàêîé ïðåòåíçèè íå ïîñòóïèò. Ýòî äðóãîé ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé ðåæèì, îò êîòîðîãî ïîñòðàäàëî ïðåæäå âñåãî ñàìî íàñåëåíèå ñòðàíû. À ñåé÷àñ ïðåòåíçèè íå èìåþò îòíîøåíèÿ ê ÑÑÑÐ, ïîñêîëüêó ýòî êîíêðåòíî ðîññèéñêèå ñóäû è ñëåäñòâèå íàðóøàåò ïðàâà çàÿâèòåëåé. È òî íå âñåõ. |
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Ìàðèèíêà Ïàõîìîâíà
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Leper_Messiah , ïîä ïðåòåíçèåé ÿ èìåë ââèäó ëþáîé êèâîê ÅÑÏ× â ñòîðîíó Ðîññèè î äåëàõ äàâíî ìèíóâøèõ äíåé, áåç êîíêðåòèêè | |
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"...äóøîé ÿ ñ âàìè, íà êàòîðãå â Ñèáèðè, à òåëîì ê ñîæàëåíèþ çäåñü, â Öþðèõå â ãîñòèíèöå". (ñ) Â.È. Ëåíèí
ÿ òåáÿ ïî àéêüþ ïðîáüþ, ó ìåíÿ áðàò - ìåíò. Òû çà ####à îòâåòèøü, ïîíåë?! Òû òðóï óæå! Âñ¸!! ÄÀÂÀÉ ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÍÜß! |
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>>>>ÐÔ ïðàâîïðååìíèöà ÑÑÑÐ Ñ õ_óÿëè Áîðÿ âûïèë ëèøíåãî Êëèíòîí ïîðæàë
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Êñòàòå, Ëåïåð äàë ãðàìîòíûé óðûäû÷åñêèé îòâåò - èç íåãî êàê è ðàíüøå 50% íå ïîíÿòíî.
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Stand and fight, live by your heart, always one more try!(c) Manowar.
I want it all and i want it now!(c) Queen. Òîëüêî âïåð¸ä!(ñ)  |
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>Êñòàòå, Ëåïåð äàë ãðàìîòíûé óðûäû÷åñêèé îòâåò - èç íåãî êàê è ðàíüøå 50% íå ïîíÿòíî.
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Îäèíöîâî Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà
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>Àãà. Òî åñòü, â ýíòîò ÅÑÏ× áåññìûñëåííî ïîäàâàòü êàñàòåëüíî ðàññòðåëîâ è óáèéñòâ ñîâåòñêèõ âîåííîïëåííûõ â ïîëüñêèõ êîíöëàãåðÿõ òèïà Òóõîëüñêîãî, Áåëîñòîöêîãî, Âàäîâèöêîãî... >Òîæå íå áóäåò íè ïëàòû, íè êàÿíèÿ. >Êàêîé-òî áåñïîíòîâûé ñóä. Àãà Èìõî, ýòî âîîáùå íå ñóäåáíàÿ, à èñòîðè÷åñêàÿ âåùü. Çàäà÷åé ÿâëÿåòñÿ óñòàíîâëåíèå äåéñòâèòåëüíûõ ôàêòîâ è îáùåå îñóæäåíèå ïðåñòóïëåíèé. Ýòî ïðèìèðÿåò ñòðàíû â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå.>ïîä ïðåòåíçèåé ÿ èìåë ââèäó ëþáîé êèâîê ÅÑÏ× â ñòîðîíó Ðîññèè î äåëàõ äàâíî ìèíóâøèõ äíåé, áåç êîíêðåòèêè Äüÿâîë â ìåëî÷àõ. ß ñ õîäó íå ïðèïîìíþ òàêèå êèâêè. Êàê ïðàâèëî, ýòî âîïðîñû ñîâðåìåííûõ ñóäîâ, êîòîðûå èãíîðÿò ïîòåðïåâøèõ â òåõ äåëàõ. Åñòü åù¸ Êîíîíîâ, íî òàì äðóãàÿ èñòîðèÿ è íå Ðîññèÿ. |
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Ìàðèèíêà Ïàõîìîâíà
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Leper_Messiah , êñòàòè, ÿ íåäàâíî ïîñòèë, íî çà íåçíà÷èòåëüíîñòüþ ñîáûòèÿ íèêîìó íå îêàçàëîñü èíòåðåñíî. ýòî ïî ñîâðåìåííîìó äåëó  ñóä îêàçàëñÿ íåïîëèòèçèðîâàííûì, ëèáî ïîëèòèçèðîâàííûì äîíåëüçÿ. õîòÿ òóò òîæå õðåí çíàåò, áàáêà íàäâîå ñêàçàëà, ëþáîå ðåøåíèå áóäåò ïðèçíàíî ïðîèãðàâøåé ñòîðîíîé êàê ëþòî àíãàæèðîâàííîå
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"...äóøîé ÿ ñ âàìè, íà êàòîðãå â Ñèáèðè, à òåëîì ê ñîæàëåíèþ çäåñü, â Öþðèõå â ãîñòèíèöå". (ñ) Â.È. Ëåíèí
ÿ òåáÿ ïî àéêüþ ïðîáüþ, ó ìåíÿ áðàò - ìåíò. Òû çà ####à îòâåòèøü, ïîíåë?! Òû òðóï óæå! Âñ¸!! ÄÀÂÀÉ ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÍÜß! |
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Îäèíöîâî Áàðàáàíû/Ãèòàðà
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>http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1962268 Èíòåðåñíî. Ýõ, âñïîìèíàþ, 2003-é, êàê âñ¸, êàçàëîñü, èä¸ò çäîðîâî! Äà è ñåé÷àñ êàæåòñÿ, êîãäà åñòü ñ ÷åì ñðàâíèòü. 2003-é, ïîñëåäíèå íîðìàëüíûå âûáîðû, èìõî. |
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>Ýòî ïðèìèðÿåò ñòðàíû â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå. Ïðèìèðÿåò òîêà ìîðäîáîé íà óáîé. |
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>ïðèìèðÿåò ñòðàíû â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå. è ïðèíîñèò íåïëîõîé ãåøåôò. ñîáñòâåííî, çà íåãî è ñûð-áîð. |
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Îäèíöîâî/Âèñáàäå
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òàéíîå ñòàëî ÿâíûì. Ïîñëå ýòîãî èíòåðåñ ê çàìàçàííîìó ïÿòíó èñòîðèè ïðîïàë. Êàÿòüñÿ íàçàä íå íàäî.  ñëó÷àå ñ ïîëÿêàìè Ðîññèÿ ïîâåëà ñåáÿ íà ðåäêîñòü äîñòîéíî, êàê ìíå ïðåäñòàâëÿåòñÿ. À äàëåå âñåõ ðåòèâûõ ïîëÿêîâ â èãíîð. | |
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Ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî ïðèéòè ê Áîãó - âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî ãëóõîíåìîìó ñòàòü âåëèêèì êîìïîçèòîðîì.
Êîãäà ãîâîðÿò î “ðóññêîé ïîýçèè”, î åå “çîëîòîì” èëè “ñåðåáðÿíîì âåêå” – ìíå ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñìåøíî. “Ðóññêîé ïîýçèè” íåò, êàê íåò “ðóññêîãî ðîêà”. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðèäåòñÿ ðàñêàèâàòüñÿ?
Âðåìÿ: 22.06.2012 15:14 |
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Óø¸ë Ñ ÌÔ
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>http://www.mk.ru/blog/posts/1432-falsifikatoryi-p lanirovali-rasstrelyat-ne-25-a-46-tyisyach-polyako v-replika-o-podlozhny...dokumentah.html >Êàê èíòåðåñíî... Ñòàëèíà íà íèõ íåò. Îí áû ïîêàçàë, êàê íàäî ðàññòðåëèâàòü! |
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Stand and fight, live by your heart, always one more try!(c) Manowar.
I want it all and i want it now!(c) Queen. Òîëüêî âïåð¸ä!(ñ) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðèäåòñÿ ðàñêàèâàòüñÿ?
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2012 01:48 |
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áàêàëàâð ñòàäà äåëüôèíîâ 
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"4. Holds, by five votes to two, that there has been a violation of Article 3 of the Convention in respect of the applicants Mr Gustaw Erchard, Ms Irena Erchard, Mr Janowiec, Mr Jerzy Karol Malewicz, the late Mr Krzysztof Jan Malewicz, Ms Mieszczankowska, Ms Michalska, Mr Tomaszewski, Mr Wielebnowski, and Ms Wołk;" "6. Holds unanimously (a) that the respondent State is to pay, within three months from the date on which the judgment becomes final in accordance with Article 44 § 2 of the Convention, the following amounts: (i) the applicants jointly EUR 5,000 (five thousand euros) in respect of costs and expenses, plus any tax that may be chargeable to them; (ii) the applicant Mr Jerzy Karol Malewicz EUR 1,500 (one thousand five hundred euros) in respect of costs and expenses, to be converted into US dollars at the rate applicable on the date of settlement, plus any tax that may be chargeable to him; (b) that from the expiry of the above-mentioned three months until settlement simple interest shall be payable on the above amounts at a rate equal to the marginal lending rate of the European Central Bank during the default period plus three percentage points;" "A preliminary remark should be made. As the majority, we consider that the Katyn massacre was a particularly horrific war crime committed by the Soviet totalitarian regime, and we agree with our dissenting colleagues that “[t]his was clearly one of the war atrocities that the drafters of the Convention sought to prevent from ever happening in the future”. On the other hand, we believe that the European Convention on Human Rights, having arisen out of a bloody chapter of European history in the twentieth century, was drafted “as part of the process of reconstructing western Europe in the aftermath of the Second World War”[3], and not with the intention of delving into that black chapter." "dmdocnumber":["906163"]} ãíèëàÿ ñòàòåéêà, â îáùåì. |
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Ñîí ðàçóìà ïîðîæäàåò ÷óäîâèù.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïðèäåòñÿ ðàñêàèâàòüñÿ?
Âðåìÿ: 26.06.2012 02:00 |
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"6. The killing was a “war crime”. There is no doubt about that. The massacres were committed in the aftermath of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (the Treaty of Non-Aggression of 1939 and its infamous secret Protocol), which is an undisputed historical fact. Under this illegal agreement, the Soviet forces committed the crime of aggression against, inter alia, Poland, which resulted, after partition, in illegal occupation of this independent State".
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Ñîí ðàçóìà ïîðîæäàåò ÷óäîâèù.
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