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Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2008 14:33 |
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Ñòàâðîïîëü
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 ÷àñòíîñòè Oxygene, Equinoxe, Magnetic Fields - òàì äîâîëüíî îäíîòèïíîå çâó÷àíèå, äóìàþ è ñîñòàâ èíñòðóìåíòîâ ïðèìåðíî îäèíàêîâûé... | |
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TrollProof™ System
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2008 15:03 |
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Íå çíàþ óæ íà ñêîëüêî îäèíàêîâûé, íî äîâîëüíî îáøèðíûé ñïèñî÷åê )))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2008 15:07 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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Âîò òóò åùå ïîäïèñàíî êàêèå îí ïîëüçóåò. Ñ ðàçìàõîì äÿäüêà òâîðèò ))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 02.08.2008 18:56 |
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Ðîñòîâ-íà-Äîíó Jackson èç òåõ ñàìûõ Äæåêñîíîâ 
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Åù¸ ðàííèå êëèïû èíòåðåñíî ñìîòðåòü-òàì âñå ýòè ÿùèêè ïîêàçûâàþò | |
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Êóïëþ ðîäíîé ïëàñòèêîâûé êåéñ äëÿ Fender Heartfield Talon
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 04.08.2008 22:02 |
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Ñòàâðîïîëü
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Àãà... âèäåë êàê ðàç íåäàâíî DVD ñ êàêèìè-òî êîíöåðòàìè - îõîòà åñòü êóïèòü äà æàáà ìàëîñòü äóøèò... ìîæåò âñ¸-òàêè ðåøóñü  Weld, ñïàñèáî çà ññûëêè!!! Ïðàâäà ïåðâàÿ, óâû, îêàçàëàñü äîõëàÿ, à âîò ñî âòîðîé êîå-÷åãî ïîä÷åðïíóë: Access Virus TI Polar - 2005 - Virtual analog synth Moog Little Phatty - 2007 - Real Analog Synthesizer Alesis Andromeda 6 - 2001 - Real analog synthesizer Clavia Nord Lead 2 - 1997 - Virtual analog synthesizer Roland JD800 - ? - Digital Synthesizer Roland Jupiter 8 - 1981 - Real Analog synthesizer Roland JX8P - 1985 - Analog synthesizer Roland Juno 106 - 1984 - Analog synthesizer Roland D50 - 1987 - LA synthesizer Yamaha DX7 - 1983 - FM synthesizer Casio CZ5000 - 1985 - Digital synthesizer Ensoniq ESQ-1 - ? - Digital synthesizer Korg Microkorg Reversed keys - ? - Virtual Analog synthesizer Moog Voyager RME - ? - Real Analog synthesizer Novation SuperNova II - 2003 - VA synthesizer Roland JD990 - 1993 - Synthesizer module Eminent 310 Theatre - ? - Organ Ïðàâäà, â óêàçàííûé ïåðèîä âðåìåíè (ãäå-òî ñ 1976 ïî 191), ñóäÿ ïî ãîäó âûïóñêà ìàëî ÷òî ïîïàäàåò èç ñïèñêà, ðàçâå ÷òî îäèí-äâà Ðîëàíäà. Äóìàþ ýòîò ãîñïîäèí þçàë êîå-÷òî åù¸ â òå óæå äàëåêèå âðåìåíà 
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TrollProof™ System
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 04.08.2008 23:11 |
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Princeton Âîîáðàæàåìûé
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Ïåðâàÿ íå äîõëàÿ, à î÷åíü äàæå æèâàÿ. È òàì ñïèñî÷åê ðàç â 10 áîëüøå )) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 04.08.2008 23:33 |
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Ìîñêâà keyboards, piano, ProTools 
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Elka îí ÷àñòî â ïîäêëàäàõ èñïîëüçîâàë. | |
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ÇÐ ñòóäèè Â. Îñèíñêîãî
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 05.08.2008 04:11 |
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Êèåâ Juno-G 
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Íå Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð. Íî ñïèñîê...!  Èíñòðóìåíòû, èïîëüçóåìûå ìóçûêàíòàìè ãðóïïû KRAFTWERK. 70-å ãîäû . ARP 2600 - Monophonic synthesizer . ARP Odyssey - Monophonic/duophonic synthesizer . Bells - Several types of bells . Echolette Drummer One Box - Drum machine . Echolette Echo Box - Tape echo and delay effects . Electronic Drum Pads - Custom built electronic percussion kit . Electronic Cage - Electronic light sensor drum cage . EMS Synthi A - Monophonic synthesizer . EMS Vocoder - Vocoder . Eventide Processor - One of first digital delay and flanger . Farfisa Professional Piano - Electronic piano . Farfisa Rhythm Unit 10 - Drum machine . Fender Bass - Electric bass . Hagstrom Electric Guitar - Electric guitar . Hammond B3 - Electric organ . Hammond L100 - Electric organ . Harmonika - Acoustic harmonika . Maestro Rhythm King - Drum Machine . Mini Moog - Monophonic synthesizer . Mu-tron Bi-phase - Phaser effect processor . Oberheim Synthesizer Expander Module - Synthesizer . Oscilloscope - Electronic device to visualize waves . Drums - Several acoustic percussion . Poly Moog - Polyphonic synthesizer . Rhythm Machine - Custom built drum machine . Roland RE-201 Space Echo - Echo and delay effects processor . Sennheiser VSM-201 - 20 band analog vocoder . Schulte Compact Phasing A - Phaser effect processors . Sound Effect Processors - Several effects processors some of them self-built . Synthanorma Analog - Analog Sequencer . Transversal Flute - Several models . Vako Orchestron - One of first analog sampler . Univox Rhythm - Drum machine . Violin - Acoustic violin 80-å ãîäû . ADAT - Digital multitrack . AKAI DD-1000 - Optical disk recorder . Atari ST Computer - One of first musical dedicated computer . Casio FX 501B - Pocket Calculator with sound effects . DAT - SONY Digital Audio Tape . Electronic Drum Pads - Custom built electronic percussion kit . EMS Rehberg . E-MU Emulator - Digital sampling instrument . Eventide Clockworks FX - Effects processor . Eventide H-910 Harmoniser - Effects processor . Eventide Limiter - Compressor/Limiter . Flute Synthesizer - Custom built flute synthesizer device . Hohner Keyboard - Electronic keyboard . Korg PS3100 - Polyphonic Synthesizer . Korg PS3200 - Polyphonic Synthesizer . MicroMoog - Monophonic synthesizer . Prophet 5 - Polyphonic synthesizer (5 voices) . Roland MC-8 Microcomposer - One of first digital sequencer . Roland System 100 M - Monophonic synthesizer . Roland TB-303 - Bass line sequencer/composers . Roland TR-808 - Drum machine . Sony Videoscreen - Custom made by SONY . Stylophone - Mini keyboard controled by electric pen . Synclavier - Digital sampler . Syndrum - Drum machine . Texas TI-99A - Home computer . Texas Speak and Spell - Children's toy which spelling games . Trigger Pad - Custom built portable electronic percussion pad . Yamaha TX816 - Polyphonic Rack Synthesizer (8 x DX7s) 90-å ãîäû . Akai DL 1000 - Real time control . Akai MB 76 - Audio line mixer/patchbay . Akai ME10D - MIDI Delay . Akai S1000 - Digital Sampler . Akai S1100 - Digital Sampler . Akai S3000 XL - Digital Sampler . AMS Digital Delay - Effects processor . Atari Mega ST4 Computer - Musical dedicated computer . Boss SE50 - Stereo effects processor . Boss SE70 - Stereo effects processor . Cooper Fader Master - MIDI Software Mixer . Digitech Studio Vocalist - Vocal effects/harmony processor . Doepfer A-100 - Polyphonic modular synthesizer . Doepfer A-126 - Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter . Doepfer A-129 - Vocoder Subsystem . Doepfer A-134 - Voltage Controlled Panning . Doepfer A-142 - Voltage Controlled Decay/Gate . Doepfer A-155 - Analog/Trigger Sequencer . Doepfer A-156 - Dual Quantizer . Doepfer A-178 - Theremin Control Voltage Source . Doepfer Data Glove MOGLI - MIDI/CV control glove . Doepfer FP5 - Foot Controller . Doepfer MAQ 16/3 - MIDI Analogue Sequencer . Doepfer MCV8 - MIDI to CV Interface . Doepfer LMK2 - Master keyboard (customized) . Doepfer MMK - Mini Keyboard (customized) . Doepfer MMR 4/4 - MIDI Merge/Router . Doepfer MTG 32 - MIDI Gate Interface . Doepfer Regelwerk - MIDI Fader and Analog/Trigger Sequencer . Doepfer Schaltwerk - MIDI Analogue Pattern Sequencer . Drawmer DS 201 Dual Gate - Compressor/Noise Gate . Ensoniq DP4 - Effects Processor . Eventide Clockworks Instant Phaser - Effects Processor . Eventide H 3000 - Effects Processor . Eventide H 3500 - Effects Processor . FB-3 Analog Systems - Effects Processor . Greenfield Noisegate Processor - Effects Processor . Iomega Jaz Disk Drive - Removable disk storage system . Kawai K 5000R - Rack Polyphonic Synthesizer . Korg KMP 68 - Midi PatchBay 6in/8out . Korg SDD-3000 - Effects Processor . Lexicon PCM 70 - Digital Reverb Processor . MAM VF-11 - Analog Vocoder . MIDI-Express Notebook - MIDI Interface . MIDI Fader Box VMC32 - Voltage to MIDI Converter Interface . Niche VCA Module - MIDI Controlled Audio Level Controller . Nord Lead - Rack Polyphonic Synthesizer . Pylon A4 - MIDI Merger Data Processor . Quantec Room Symulator - Effects Processor . Quasimidi Cyber 6 - MIDI Masterkeyboard . Quasimidi Quasar - Rack Polyphonic Synthesizer . Quasimidi Raven - Polyphonic Synthesizer . Quasimidi Rave-o-Lution 309 - Rack Polyphonic Synthesizer . Quasimidi Sirius Synthesizer - Polyphonic Synthesizer . Robovox - System for/and method of synthesizing singing in real time . Roland SRV 2000 - Effects Processor (Reverb) . Roland M120 - Mixer Console . Roland ME 16 E - 19 - Mixer Console . Roland MM4 - MIDI Interface . Roland SBF-325 - Effects Processor . Sony LVA 8000P - LASER Disc video player . Sony LVR 4000P - Laser Video Record . Sony SMO MOD - SCSI Optical Drive . SPL Vitalizer Soundprocessor - Psycho-acoustic Efffects Processor . Studio Electronics MIDI-Mini - Monophonic Rack Synthesizer . Studio Electronics SE1 - Monophonic Rack Synthesizer . Tascam DA-88 - 8 Track Digital Audio Recorder . TC Electronics Fireworx - Dual Effects Processor . Toshiba T4700CT - Notebook . Waldorf Microwave - Polyphonic Rack Synthesizer . Yamaha C1 - Music Dedicated Computer . Yamaha DX100 - Polyphonic Synthesizer . Yamaha MC52 - MIDI Controller . Yamaha MSSI - Time Code Synchronizer . Yamaha SPX 900 - Effects Processor 2000-å ãîäû . Cubase SX - Professional MIDI/Audio Sequencer . Pocket Dial - Realtime MIDI Control . Pocket Fader - Realtime MIDI Control . Halion - Steinberg Virtual Sampler (VST) . Native Instruments - Virtual instruments (VST) . Midiman Oxygen - Mini Keyboard with Realtime MIDI Controls . SONY Vaio - SONY Notebook . TC Works FX Machine - Multi fx processor plug-in . TC Works Helicon - Voice Modeling technology . TC Works D-Coder - Synthesizer Vocoder . TC Works Powercore - Open audio DSP-platform . TC Works Plug-Ins - Virtual Instruments & Effects (VST) . VST Instruments - Steinberg Virtual Instruments & Effects . Waldorf PPG - VST version of classic Waldorf PPG |
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Áîëüøèå êîìïîçèòîðû âñåãäà è ïðåæäå âñåãî îáðàùàëè âíèìàíèå íà ìåëîäèþ, êàê íà âåäóùåå íà÷àëî â ìóçûêå. Ìåëîäèÿ — ýòî ìóçûêà, ãëàâíàÿ îñíîâà âñåé ìóçûêè, ïîñêîëüêó ñîâåðøåííàÿ ìåëîäèÿ ïîäðàçóìåâàåò è âûçûâàåò ê æèçíè ñâîå ãàðìîíè÷íîå îôîðìëåíèå.
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 05.08.2008 21:40 |
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Ñòàâðîïîëü
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Îãî... ñåðüåçíûå ðåáÿòà, òóò êàê áû äàæå è íè óáàâèòü, íè ïðèáàâèòü >> (ãäå-òî ñ 1976 ïî 191) ñîððè, èìååòñÿ ââèäó 1981... Ññûëêà ñî âòîðîãî ðàçà òàêè îòêðûëàñü, ñïèñî÷åê áîëåå ÷åì ñîëèäíûé, ïîä ìîé êðèòåðèé ïîïàäàåò ïðèìåðíî ñëåäóþùåå: > CAVAGNOLO MIDY 20 Synthesizer - > MOOG III Synthesizer 1967 > EMS Synthi VCS3 Synthesizer 1969 > ARP 2500 Synthesizer 1970 > ARP 2600 Synthesizer 1970 > FENDER RHODES Stage Piano 73 Mk II Synthesizer 1970 > MOOG Minimoog Model D Synthesizer 1970 > EMS Synthi AKS Synthesizer 1972 > MOOG 55 Synthesizer 1972 > RMI Harmonic Synthesizer Synthesizer 1974 > RMI Keyboard Computer Synthesizer 1974 > ELKA Rhapsody 610 Synthesizer 1975 > OBERHEIM TVS-1A Synthesizer 1975 > KORG PE 1000 Synthesizer 1976 > KORG PE 2000 Synthesizer 1976 > MOOG Taurus Pedal Synthesizer Synthesizer 1976 > PPG 300 Modular System Synthesizer 1976 > KORG PS 3300 Synthesizer 1977 > YAMAHA CS-60 Synthesizer 1977 > YAMAHA CS-80 Synthesizer 1977 > KORG PS 3200 Synthesizer 1978 > RSF Kobol Synthesizer 1978 > SEQUENCIAL CIRCUITS Prophet 5 Synthesizer 1978 > OBERHEIM OB-X Synthesizer 1979 > ELECTRO-HARMONIX Mini-Synthesizer Synthesizer 1980 > MOOG Liberation Synthesizer 1980 > MOOG Memorymoog Synthesizer 1980 > ROLAND Jupiter-8 Synthesizer 1980 > KORG SAS-20 Personal Keyboard Synthesizer 1981 > OBERHEIM OB-Xa Synthesizer 1981 > FAIRLIGHT CMI-I Sampler/Synthesizer 1979 > E-MU Emulator Sampler/Synthesizer 1981 > ELKA 707 Organ - > FARFISA Professional Organ 1968 > EMINENT 310 U Organ 1970 > ELKA X705 Organ 1977 > MELLOTRON 400SM Mellotron 1970 Äðàìñû > STAR INSTRUMENTS Synare S3X Electronic Drum - > KORG Mini Pops 7 Electronic Drum 1966 > EKO Computerhythm Electronic Drum 1972 > GEISS Rythmi-computer Electronic Drum 1976 > KORG KR 55 Electronic Drum 1979 > LINN LM-1 Electronic Drum 1979 > ROLAND CR-78 Electronic Drum 1979 > SIMMONS SDS V Electronic Drum 1980 > ROLAND TR-808 Electronic Drum 1981 Ìèäè-êëàâû > ELKA AMK 800 Master Keyboard Íà ñàìîì äåëå îáîðóäîâàíèÿ òàì ïåðå÷èñëåííî, êîíå÷íî æå, ãîðàçäî áîëüøå... ×åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, ãëÿäÿ íà òàêèå âíóøèòåëüíûå ñïèñêè íà÷èíàåøü ïðåäàâàòüñÿ êðàìîëüíûì ìûñëèøêàì - à êàêîâà ñîáñòâåííî ñòåïåíü âîâëå÷åííîñòè êàæäîãî êîíêðåòíîãî èíñòðóìåíòà â òâîð÷åñêèé ïðîöåññ, íà ÷åì-òî ìîæåò ñûãðàíî 90%, íà ÷åì-òî âñåãî íåñêîëüêî íîò â àëüáîìå, à ÷òî-òî êîòîðûé ãîä â óãëó ïûëèòñÿ... Ïîíåâîëå íà÷èíàåøü ïîäóìûâàòü ÷òî ìóçûêàíò ïîñòåïåííî ïðåâðàùàåòñÿ â êîëëåêöèîíåðà... Êñòàòè, èíòåðåñíûé ìîìåíò: ó íàñ íàëèöî íàëè÷èå îòñóòñòâèÿ êàêèõ-ëèáî óïîìèíàíèé î ïðîäóêöèè Doepfer, à âåäü íà áóðæóéñêèõ ôîðóìàõ, äà è â ñåòàïàõ ìóçûêàíòîâ ìåëüêàåò äîâîëüíî ÷àñòî...
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TrollProof™ System
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 06.08.2008 14:18 |
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Íèêîëàåâ ãèòàðû,ñèíòåçàòîð... 
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ìíå ïîïàëàñü èíôà ÷òî ïðè çàïèñè ñâîåãî ïîñääëåäíåãî àëüáîìà àêòèâíî èñïîëüçîâàë Roland MC 808 êñòàòè íà þ òóáå âèäåë âèäåî ãäå îí ñ óìíûì ëèöîì ñëóøàåò îáúÿñíåíèå ïðî ÌÑ808 è êíîïêè íàæèìàåèò))) |
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èìåþ êó÷ó áèáëèîòåê äëÿ ßìàõà ÌÎòèô(âñåõ) è ìåíüøå êó÷êà äëÿ ìîäõ è Ìîíòàæ ,ñòðàæäóùèå îáðàùàéòåñü motifxs@mail.ru
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 06.08.2008 20:14 |
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Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð íå òîëüêî îáèëüíî þçàåò ñòàôô, íî åìó ýòîò ñòàôô ÷àñòî ïîäãîíÿþò. Êñòàòè îí ïðèêëàäûâàë ðóêó â äîðàáîòêó ìíîãèõ ìîäóëåé íà çàðå ýïîõè çàñèëèÿ ýëåêòðîííûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ è ñîòðóäíè÷àë ñî ìíîãèìè ôèðìàìè. È ýòî äàæå êàñàåòñÿ ïîñëåäíîãî àëüáîìà. Ïîñëå íåãî Òîìè Õ¸ôêèí èëè êàê åãî, ðàáîòàþùèé ñ Æàððîì, ïðîïàò÷èë Ðîëàí ÌÑ808 êàê ðàç òàêè ðèòìàìè ñ àëüáîìà Æàððà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 06.08.2008 20:17 |
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çû. Ýòîò ÷óâàê èçâåñòíûé ïàò÷-ìåéêåð â Ðîëàíä êîìïàíè | |
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 08.08.2008 16:33 |
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Íèêîëàåâ ãèòàðû,ñèíòåçàòîð...
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ýõ...ìíå áû ïðîïàò÷èòü ñâîé Ðîëàíä òàêèìè ïàò÷àìè)))) | |
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èìåþ êó÷ó áèáëèîòåê äëÿ ßìàõà ÌÎòèô(âñåõ) è ìåíüøå êó÷êà äëÿ ìîäõ è Ìîíòàæ ,ñòðàæäóùèå îáðàùàéòåñü motifxs@mail.ru
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2008 14:09 |
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Ñòàâðîïîëü
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Ïîñëåäíèé àëüáîì, ýòî "Teo And Tea" êîòîðûé? Îí óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè òàíöåâàëüíûé... Êàê-òî Æàððó ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ âñå áîëüøå è áîëüøå ìåëîäèçìà íåäîñòàåò â ìóçûêå - âñå áîëüøå óêëîí íà çâóêîâîå îôîðìëåíèå, ðèòì, ñïåöýôôåêòû âñÿêèå. "Les Granges Brulees" õîòü è áîëåå ìåëîäè÷íûé, íî òàì îí òîæå îòëè÷èëñÿ - êîëáàñèò îäèí ïðîñòåíüêèé ìîòèâ÷èê âåñü àëüáîì íàïðîëåò, îò ïåñíè ê ïåñíè, ÷óòü ïîä ðàçíûì ñîóñîì - æåñòü... À âåäü ñåé ãîñïîäèí îäèí ãëàâíûõ êëàññèêîâ è ïèîíåðîâ æàíðà ×åëîâåê-îðêåñòð, áëèí!..
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Òåìà: Re: Èíòåðåñíî êàêèå ñèíòû èñïîëüçóåò Æàí Ìèøåëü Æàðð â ñâîèõ ðàííèõ àëüáîìàõ?
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2 sal-gena, òàê ÷åãî òåáå ïàò÷èòü åñëè òàì ýòè ðèòìû ñ ÒèÒ äîëæíû áûòü êàê ðàç. 2 rubin, à çà÷åì? ýòî òåáå ìåëîäèçìà æ íåõâàòàåò. êàê ñêàçàë Ä.Õåòôèëä ôðîì îäèí ìåòàëëè÷åñêèé áýíä - "âàì ôàíàì êàæåòñÿ ÷òî âû âñå òàê õîðîøî çíàåòå, ëó÷øå äàæå ÷åì ìû. íî ìû ïðîäîëæàåì ïèñàòü ìóçûêó âïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü äëÿ ñåáÿ, à íå äëÿ âàñ. Êàê òîëüêî ìóçûêàíò íà÷èíàåò ïèñàòü ñïåöèàëüíî ïîä ìíåíèå ñâîèõ ôàíîâ - îí òåðÿåò âñå è âïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ñåáÿ". |
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ÒèÒ - ýòî êëàá áèò. íó çàõîòåë Æàðð òàêèõ æàíðîâ è ðàìîê. Ïî ìíå òàê øèêàðíûé çàâîäíîé àëüáîì ñ èíòåðåñíûìè òåìàìè è íîðìàëüíûì æàíðîâûì ìåëîäèçìîì, ðàçâå ÷òî çàãëàâíàÿ êîìïîçèöèÿ êàê ðàç íå íðàâèòñÿ, íî ýòî ëèøü ìíå, ëþäè âîîáùå âîí îò êàâåðà Áåííè Áåíàñè ïðóòñÿ, êîòîðûå åùå áîëåå ïðèìèòèâåí, ÷åì îðèãèíàë. À ïðèìåð ïðî "Les Granges Brulees" áûë çàïèñàë åùå äî Îêñèäæåíà êàê áû ; ) ß çà ðàñøèðåíèå ðàìîê âíóòðè èñïîëíèòåëÿ. Îò Æàððà áûëî âñå - àìáèåíò, ìèíèìàë, òåõíî, ðåéâ, èíäàñòðèë, íüþ äæàç, êëàá áèò, íüþ ýéäæ, ÷èëëàóò, ñèíòå-ïîï, ýòíî, ... Ýæ êàïåö âîîáùå. Îí æ îò òàðåëîê è òðóá äî áàñà èãðàåò íà êîíöåðòàõ. Îí ñàì ñâîäèò äèñêè, è íåêîòîðûå èç íèõ ïðîñòî çîëîòîé îáðàçåö ïðàâèëüíîñòè çâó÷àíèÿ. |
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Ïî÷èòàéòå åãî äíåâíèê aerojarre . blogspot . com Åìó 60, à îí ïóáëèêóåò â äíåâíèêå êàâåðû íà åãî æå êîìïîçèöèè îò äðóãèõ, åìó äåëàþò çàêàçíûå Electron Monomachine, îí êîâûðÿåòñÿ â ñèíòåçàòîðàõ îò Arturia è âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ñ èõ ðàçðàáîò÷èêàìè, îí ïèøåò êàê ãîíÿåòñÿ çà ñòàðûìè àíàëîãîâûìè ñèíòåçàòîðàìè ïî âñåé Åâðîïå è ñóòêàìè ñ íèìè ñèäèò. Îí ãåíèé è ñóìàñøåäøèé â îäíîì ëèöå. Åñëè íà÷íåò èãðàòü õåâè-ìåòàëë ãëÿäèøü è â ýòîì æàíðå âíåñåò íîâàòîðñòâî. À ÿ ëè÷íî òîëüêî çà íîâûå æàíðû. ×åãî áû ÿ õîòåë ëè÷íî îò íåãî - òàê ýòî ÷åãî-òî íîâîãî, ýêñïåðèìåíòàëüíîãî. À êëàññèê è ïèîíåð öåëîé êó÷è æàíðîâ(ïîä÷åðêèâàþ) - äàâíî. ÒÀê çà÷åì òóäà âíîâü âîçâðàùàòüñÿ? |
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SN+->, +1 Òû ñîâåðøåííî ïðàâ, ýêñïåðèìåíòèðîâàòü è ðàçâèâàòüñÿ ýòî çäîðîâî... íèêòî è íå ñòàâèò ïîä ñîìíåíèå åãî òàëàíò èëè òåõíè÷åñêóþ ýðóäèöèþ. Òóò âîïðîñ íåìíîæêî â äðóãîì - äàé òî Áîã, ÷òîá ýêñïåðèìåíòû ìóçûêàíòîâ áûëè âûçâàíû èìåííî âíóòðåííåé ýâîëþöèåé, à íå ïîãîíåé çà íîâîìîäíûìè òå÷åíèÿìè. Ïðîñòî íåëüçÿ äåëàòü âñå îäèíàêîâî õîðîøî, ó ëþáîãî ÷åëîâåêà åñòü ñâîé óíèêàëüíûé ñêëàä óìà, ñâîé îáùèé è ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûé æèçíåííûé îïûò, ýòî âñå íàêëàäûâàåò îïðåäåëåííûé îòïå÷àòîê íà âñå ÷òî îí äåëàåò, ôîðìèðóåò îïðåäåëåííûé ñòèëü ðàáîòû, íåêóþ ñïåöèàëèçàöèþ, íàïðàâëåííîñòü... Ïðîñòî ó êîãî-òî îíà óæå, à ó êîãî-òî øèðå. Îäíî äåëî êîãäà ÿâëÿåøüñÿ îòöîì-îñíîâàòåëåì, ïèîíåðîì êàêîãî-òî ñòèëÿ òóò ïîêà íåò íèêàêèõ ñëîæèâøèõñÿ ïðàâèë, êëèøå è ïð. Îãðîìíûé ïðîñòîð äëÿ òâîð÷åñòâà. Äðóãîå äåëî êîãäà áåðåøüñÿ çà ÷óæîé ñòèëü, êîòîðûé äîñòàòî÷íî äàâíî ñóùåñòâóåò, óñòîÿëñÿ è áîëüøàÿ ÷àñòü ðàáîòû òàì óæå ñäåëàíà.  äàííîì ñëó÷àå ñëîæíî ñîçäàòü ÷òî ïðèíöèïèàëüíî íîâîå è ïîëåçíîå - ïî÷òè âñå òàì óæå ñêàçàíî... è òàì åñòü ñâîè âåòåðàíû. Ìîæíî ñîçäàòü ÷òî-òî è âåñüìà íåïëîõîå, íî íóæíî ëè îíî êîìó-íèáóäü êðîìå ñàìîãî ìóçûêàíòà - áîëüøîé âîïðîñ, åñëè è ýòîãî äîáðà è òàê ìíîãî. Íàïðèìåð, òûñÿ÷è ëþäåé äóìàþ â ñâîå âðåìÿ èãðàëè Áëýêìîðà, Ìàëüìñòèíà, Ýìåðñîíà, Ëîðäà è ïðî÷èõ, êòî-òî ñàì ñòàë î÷åíü õîðîøèì ãèòàðèñòîì èëè êëàâèøíèêîì, âïîëíå âîçìîæíî è èãðàþò îíè òåõíè÷åñêè íè÷óòü íå õóæå, à òî è ëó÷øå, íî îíè óæå íå áûëè íîâàòîðàìè, íå áûëè ïåðâîîòêðûâàòåëÿìè - îíè òîëüêî ïîâòîðÿëè ñóùåñòâóþùåå, òèðàæèðîâàëè ñòèëü... Ëèøü ñîâñåì íåìíîãèå èç îáùåé ìàññû äîñòèãëè òåõ æå âåðøèí (âïðî÷åì, âñ¸ ðàâíî êàæäûé ïî-ñâîåìó). ß êðîìå Æàððà, ïðèñìàòðèâàþ çà òâîð÷åñòâîì è äðóãèõ ìóçûêàíîâ-ìóëüòèèíñòðóìåíòàëèñòîâ, íàïðèìåð, Ìèøåëÿ Êðåòó, Ìàéêà Îëäôèëäà, Àëàíà Ïàðñîíñà, õîòåë áûëî è çà Äèäüå Ìàðóàíè âçÿòüñÿ. Äà è çà ñòàðûìè ðîê-ãðóïïàìè ïîòèõîíüêó ïðèñìàòðèâàþ è ó ìåíÿ èíîãäà âîçíèêàþò îïàñåíèÿ çà ñîäåðæàòåëüíîñòüþ èõ ìóçûêè, êàê çà ðàçóìíîñòü âûáðàííîãî íàïðàâëåíèÿ... Î÷åíü ñëîæíàÿ, äâîéñòâåííàÿ çàäà÷à - ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû ñîõðàíèòü â ìóçûêå ñâîé èíäèâèäóàëüíûé ñòèëü, ñâîå ëèöî, íî ïðè ýòîì íå çàöèêëèòüñÿ, íå ïîòîíóòü â ñâîèõ æå ñîáñòâåííûõ èëè ñòèëåâûõ êëèøå, à ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû - ïðèäóìûâàòü ÷òî-òî íîâîå, òâîð÷åñêè ðàçâèâàòüñÿ, ýêñïåðèìåíòèðîâàòü, íî ïðè ýòîì îñòàâàòü ïî âîçìîæíîñòè ïîíÿòíûì ëþäÿì, íåñòè îïðåäåëåííóþ èäåþ èëè ÷óâñòâî. Êñòàòè, ñïàñèáî çà ññûëêó, î÷åíü èíòåðåñíûé ðåñóðñ. Áóêâàëüíî ïàðó ìèíóò íàçàä îáíàðóæèë ðóññêèé áëîã Ìàðóàíè, ïðè÷åì íà ìàèë.ðó : |
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à ïîíèìàåøü â ÷åì ïåðåö-òî âåñü: íèêòî æ íå ñêàæåò ÷òî "ñäåëàé òî - ñòàíåøü îòöîì". èçâåñòíàÿ èñòèíà - íåïîïðîáóåøü íå óçíàåøü. âîò ïðèìåð íà ôîíå òâîð÷åñòâà Æàððà: "çóëóêóëóã" àëüáîì. æàðð çàëåç â ýëåêòðî ýòíî èëè êàê òàì ýòîò ñòèëü íàçûâàþò. è âåäü ¸ìà¸, ýæ ïðîñòî óíèêàëüíàÿ ðàáîòà. çîëîòîé ãðàëü. ýòîò àëüáîì âîîáùå îñîáíÿêîì ñòîèò. åãî áîÿòñÿ, åãî íåíàâèäÿò, åãî áëàãîòâîðÿò. ýòó øòóêîâèíó óæå íå ïåðåïëþíèøü, à 2óþ òàêóþ íå ñäåëàåøü. è âåäü ýòîò àëüáîì ìîæíî ñ÷èòàòü îòñ÷åòîì íîâîãî ñòèëÿ. Àëè "Ñåññèè 2000" óõî íå ëàñêàþò? À ÷òî Æàðð âûêèíóë ñ àëüáîìîì "ãåîìåòðèÿ ëþáâè"! âîîáùå æ àáçàö. è êòî ñêàæåò ÷òî 2 çàãëàâíûõ òðåêà íå ãåíèàëüíû - òîò ïðîñòî áîëåí è íèêîãäà íå ïîéìåò ïðåêðàñíîé ÷óâñòâåííîé ìóçûêè. Ìàéêè Îëäôèëäû, Àëàíû Ïàðñîíû - òàêèå æå ãåíèè. Çàñëóøàíû ïðîñòî äî äûð. Êëàóñà Øóëüöà è Òàíæåéí Äðèì ïðåïëåòàé. Òóò âîîáùå äîôèãà. Ìîãó È Îðá ðåêîìåíäîâàòü. À óæ Âàíãåëèñ, ó íåãî òàêèå ðàáîòû ðàçíîïëàíîâûå êñòàòè, íåêîòîðûå âîîáùå áóäóò îòêðîâåíèåì, êòî çíàåò Âàíãåëèñà ëèøü ïî ñàóíäòðåêàì. Íåìíîãî íå âåðíî ðàçìûøëÿåøü. Êîãäà òî íà äâîðå áûëî íà÷àëî 90õ è òîæå íèêòî íå äóìàë ÷òî â òÿæåëîì ðîêå ìîæíî ÷òî òî ïðèäóìàòü, à ïîòîì ñòîëüêî îòâåòâëåíèé ïîòåêëî äà ïîïëûëî. Ñíà÷àëà òàê ñûãðàëè, ïîòîì òàê ñïåëè, ïîòîì çàþçàëè îäèí èíñòðóìåíò, äðóãîé è ãðóïïà çà ãðóïïîé, êàê íèòî÷êà çà íèòî÷êîé ìû èìååì ìíîãî ñèìáèîçíûõ ãåíèàëüíûõ ãðóïï, òàêèõ êàê Íàéí Èí÷ Íåéëñ, Êèíã Êðèìñòîí è ò.ä. Ôñîë âîò èãðàëè èãðàëè, à ïîòîì âçÿëè è çàÿâèëè, ÷òî àìáèåíò áîëüøå èãðàòü íèêîãäà íå áóäóò è âîîáùå ïåðåèìåíîâàëèñü. Òàê ÷òî åùå ðàç - íåïîïðîáóåøü íå óçíàåøü. Äà è ñîáòñâåííî ãäå ðàìêè òî? Ýëåêòðîííàÿ ìóçûêà. È ôôñå, âñå ðàìêè. À äëÿ êîãî-òî ðàìêè - 7 íîò, îñòàëüíîå ëèðèêà. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ Æàððà, Øóëüöà, Èíî è ò.ä. - âñå óõîäèëè â ðàçíûå íàïðàâëåíèÿ, áîëåå èëè ìåíåå ñõîæèå. Ýò äàæå íå ïðîñòî íîðìàëüíî, à êàê áû ëîãè÷íàÿ è çàêîíîìåðíàÿ âåùü äëÿ âñåõ, áóäü èçâåñòíûé õóäîæíèê, ïîýò.. Âñå ÷òî òî õîòÿò ïîïðîáîâàòü, ÷òîáû ÷òî-òî íîâîå óçíàòü, ïðî÷óâñòâîâàòü. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ - õîðîøî, íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ - íèêòî è íå îáåùàë. ß âîîáùå íå ëþáëþ, íå ïîíèìàþ, êîãäà íà÷èíàþò òåðåòü íà ôîðóìàõ î òîì êàê "íåêèé èñïîëíèòåëü ïîéìàë äðóãóþ ñòåçþ è òåì ñàìûì íàñðàë â ëþáèìûé ôàíàòñêèé ñóï". èñïîëíèòåëåé øîëå ìàëî? íå ñëóøàòü æå îäèí è òîò æå àëüáîì, îäíîãî è òîãî æå ÷åëîâåêà â òå÷åíèè 5 ëåò, à ïîòîì åùå ïðîñèòü - äàéòå 2 (äâà). À ïðîäàæè îôèöèàëüíûõ äèñêîâ, ìàòåðèàëîâ, êîíöåðòîâ, øóìèõà â ñìè è èíòåðíåò - âñåãäà êîñâåíî óêàæóò ëþáîìó èñïîëíèòåëþ î "æåëàíèÿõ" ïóáëèêè. Èáî òîâàðèùè òî âñå òàêè - êîììåð÷åñêèå. |
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è äîáàâëþ, åùå èñòèíó - "ãîâîðèòå ïðàâäó è âàì íèêòî íå ïîâåðèò". òóò èñòèíî ìîæåò çíàòü òîëüêî ñàì ìóçûêàíò, äëÿ ÷åãî îí ýòî äåëàåò. ÷åë õî÷åò èñêðåíå ïîðàáîòàòü â ñîâðåìåííûõ òåíäåíöèÿõ, â ìîëîäåæíûé æóðíàë ñôîòîãðàôèðîâàòü èáî ÷åì õóæå òî äðóãèõ, ÷àé íå ðûæèé; à íå â ñòàðèêîâ ðàçáîéíèêîâ èãðàòü - âñå îðóò, ÷òî ìîë ìýéíñòðèì è ìîäà, ïðîäàëñÿ ñâîëî÷ü òàêàÿ. ÷åë íà çëî/ñïåöèàëüíî/êîììåð÷åñêè äåëàåò õîä ëîìàÿ êàíîíû èëè ñêàíäàëüíî îáðàùàåò íà ñåáÿ - âñå êðè÷àò, ìîë ìîëîäåö íå èäåò íà ïîâîäó ìåéíñòðèìà, ðóëèò. è âñå ñ òî÷íîñòü äà íàîáîðîò. âîò ïîäè äà ðàçáåðè. ëó÷øå ïðîñòî íàáëþäàòü äà ñâîåé ãîëîâîé è óøàìè îöåíèâàòü. à ýòè ìóçûêàëüíûå êðèòèêè, æàíðû âñÿêèå - òüôó íàõ, îò ëóêàâîãî. |
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