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Àâòîð
Òåìà: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 03.02.2008 22:03 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

â pc2x åñòü îêîëî ~25 ô-íî, è ~25 ÅÏ òåìáðîâ! - ïî õàðàêòåðó êàæäûé çâóê "ñòðåìèòñÿ" ê ñâîåé öåëè!!
Ñîñòàâèë òàáëèöó íåêîòîðûõ ñòèëåé è ò.ï.(ñòèëè íàçâàë ïî ñâîåìó, íî íàçâàíèÿ òåìáðîâ "pc2x-series" - òî÷íûå!, + äîïîëíèòåëüíîå îïèñàíèå) :


1) ñòèëü - "WARM CHAMBER"(jazz-classic music) - eff: dark room-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

WarmGrand(“room” - òåïëûé-òóìàííûé ô-íî çâóê)
Lounge E Pno
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2) ñòèëü - "JAZZ BAND"(jazz music) - eff: dark room-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

Piano Solitude(ñâèíãîâàÿ ìàíåðà èãðû, àêöåíòû è ò.ï.)
Hard E Pno
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3) ñòèëü - "BLUES/BOOGIE"(blues-rock music) - eff: bright stage-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

DynamicGrand(÷èñòî áëþçîâàÿ ìàíåðà èãðû)
My Best Wurly
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4) ñòèëü - "COMFORT STAGE"(universal) - eff: bright stage-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

Stereo Grand(èñêðåííèé-óíèâåðñàëüíûé ô-íî çâóê “Steinway”)
Serious Classic
Soft E Piano
70 s FM Tines(äèãèòàë ÔÌ òèïî – Yamaha DX-7)
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5) ñòèëü - "GRAND STAGE"(pop-rock music) - eff: bright stage-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

Grand Piano 440(ñöåíè÷åñêèé-ãðàíä ô-íî çâóê -òèïî Ðóäåññà “DT”)
Digital E Piano(+ïîäêëàäû)
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6) ñòèëü - "SOFT LYRIC"(classic music) - eff: dark stage-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

Full Bloom Piano(÷óâñòâèòåëüíûé-ëèðè÷íûé “ìåäëåííûé” çâóê ñîëî ô-íî)
Dyno E Pno
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7) ñòèëü - "BRIGHT BALLAD"(classic music) - eff: bright stage-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

Classic Grand – (“solo-crystal” – òèïî ô-íî Êëàéäåðìàíà)
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8) ñòèëü - "VIRTUOSO STAGE"(classic music) - eff: bright stage-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

Suite Piano – (äèí. ñîëî ô-íî - òàéíñòâåííûå è “áûñòðûå” íîòû)
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.. íàïèøèòå, - ìîæåò âû çàìåòèëè ãäå-òî áðåä â ñïèñêå èëè êîìëåêòàöèè ô-íî/ÅÏ ..


ï.ñ.
íà ïóëòå íóæíî íèçû óáðàòü, íåêîòîðûì çâóêàì ñåðåäèíó óìåíüøèòü, è âûñîêèõ äîáàâèòü.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 04.02.2008 01:27 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

ï.ñ.
åù¸ îäèí êîìïëåêò - "ìàññèâíûé"! îí ìíå íå î÷ íðàâèòñÿ, íî äëÿ íåêîòîðûõ öåëåé(recital) - íåîáõîäèìûé-îñíîâíîé êîìïëåêò.


ñòèëü - "MELLOW RECITAL"(jazz music) - eff: bright stage-reverb 16%, chorus 9% :

Piano Recital(ìàñèâíûé çâóê, ïîòîìó ëó÷øå îòäàëèòü-"óìåíüøèòü" ýôôåêòîì "stage-reverb")
Classic E Piano
Hybrid E Piano
Tines Square
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 04.02.2008 18:16 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ñîððè, çàìåòèë áðåä! - WarmGrand íå "êîìíàòíûé" à íàîáîðîò - ãðàíä-ñöåíè÷åñêèé!(êàê Classic Grand):

Classic Grand (solo pop-classic – òèïî ô-íî Êëàéäåðìàíà)
WarmGrand (solo old-classic - traditional).

èçìåíèëàñü êîìïåêòàöèÿ è ÅÏ ..

ï.ñ.
êîíå÷íî ëþáîé çâóê ìîæíî çäåëàòü "room" èëè "stage", íî íàäî ãëóáæå óñâîèòü õàðàêòåð òåìáðà è åãî "ñòðåìëåíèå"! :)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 04.02.2008 20:37 
Ñòàâðîïîëü


rollland, ðåñïåêò çà êëàññíûé îáçîð!!!

Êñòàòè, ýêâàëèçàöèÿ òàì íóæíà âåçäå èëè ëèøü òàì ãäå èñïîëüçóþòñÿ "ìàññèâíûå" ô-íî, òèïà Ñòåðåî Ãðàíä? Ïàðàìåòðû ýêâàëàéçåðà ïðèìåðíî êàê òû òîãäà (ðàíüøå) ñîâåòîâàë?
TrollProof™ System
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 04.02.2008 22:49 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

>Ïàðàìåòðû ýêâàëàéçåðà ïðèìåðíî êàê òû òîãäà (ðàíüøå) ñîâåòîâàë?

- ïðèìåðíî.
à åñëè ïî-ïðîùå( EQ òðåõ ÷àñòîò):
äëÿ Classic Grand è WarmGrand - ñåðåäèíó óáðàòü, âûñîêèå äîáàâèòü;
äëÿ Stereo Grand, Grand Piano 440, DynamicGrand - ñåðåäèíà íóæíà.
è òï..

ï.ñ. íèçû âñåì óáðàòü ..
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2008 04:15 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

rubin, - âîò ìîé íîâûé îñíîâíîé êîìïëåêò(9 òåìáðîâ)! - â sp2x ïî÷òè âñå åñòü!!("Lounge E Pno" = "Dyno My E Pno") :

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Stereo Grand +/- Slow Strings
Lounge E Pno
Digital E Piano +/- Cathedral Vox +/- Big Brass
New Fluid Vibes
BackgroundOrgan
/
Round and Wound
-----------------(ýôô: bright stage reverb 16%, + chorus 9%)


ï.ñ.
íà ýòîé îñíîâå-ôóíäàìåíòå(îñíîâíûå òåìáðû êëàâèøíèêà) ìîæíî êîíêðåòíî ñî÷åòàòü äðóãèå çâóêè - ëèäû, ïàäêëàäû è ò.ä..
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2008 17:17 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

! ! ! - íàïèøó íåñêîëüêî ñëîâ î õàðàêòåðå çâóêîâ J. Rudess("DT") ..
- çäåñü íà ôîðóìå ãäå-òî ÿ íàïèñàë ÷òî äëÿ òàêîãî "ãðàíä-ñòåéäæ" ô-íî/ÅÏ âàðèàíòà ìîë íóæåí òåìáð(åñëè èç pc2x-series) "Stereo Grand"; "70 s FM Tines" è òï.. Íî õî÷ó óòî÷íèòü ÷òî "Stereo Grand"; "Grand Piano 440"; "70 s FM Tines" - ñëèøêîì êîìôîðòíûå è "áëèçêèå" òåìáðû. À óæíû "ìàëåíüêèå-ãðàíä-hall" çâóêè!

:icon3: ! ! ! - ïðèìåð äëÿ ãðàíä òåìáðîâ(òèïî "DT"):

Piano Solitude
Digital E Piano + Cathedral Vox(ãðîìêèé ïîäêëàä)
è òï..

- åôô: "large bright hall"(~16%) + chorus(~9%).
Íèçû óáðàòü, - â îáùåì ô-íî "Piano Solitude" íóæíî çäåëàòü "ìàëåíüêèì" ãðàíä-hall çâóêîì!!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 05.02.2008 19:29 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ñ "âûñîêèìè" ÷óòü ïåðåñòîðàëñÿ ..
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 06.02.2008 19:47 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü ñäåëàë âûâîä: - ÷òî íåëüçÿ íàñòîëüêî óáèðàòü íèçû è äîáàâëÿòü âûñîêèå .. - ïîëó÷àåòñÿ êàñòðèðîâàííûé çâóê :icon13: .  ìåñòî "Piano Solitude" äëÿ ýòîé ãðàíä-öåëè íóæåí ÿðêèé ô-íî òåìáð "Classic Grand"! Íî ýòîò çâóê äëÿ äðóãîé ìóçûêè, - òèïî pop-ñlassic ô-íî Êëàéäåðìàíà ..

ñîñòàâèë íîâóþ òàáëèöó(favourite pc2x-series). Êàæäîìó ô-íî òåìáðó åñòü áëèçíåö ÅÏ - êîíå÷íî ïî õàðàêòåðó!, à íå ïî âíåøíîñòè ..
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 07.02.2008 16:26 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ÿ òóò ñàì ñ ñàáîþ áåñåäóþ:) - íî ÿ òàê íàøåë èñòèíó! ! !
íàñ÷åò new stereo triple strike ô-íî - äîëæåí ñîãëàñèòñÿ ÷òî åãî â ìèêñ âïèõàòü ñëîæíî ò.å. íå äëÿ ìèêñà åãî òâîðèëè!! åãî è rhodes ñåìïëèðîâàëè äëÿ ñóáòèëüíûõ-êîìôîðòíûõ ñöåí è ò.ï. - îñîáåííî - "Full Bloom Piano" è "Dyno E Pno; "Stereo Grand" è "Lounge E Pno".

:icon3: Âûõîäèò - "Stereo Grand" ñîâåðøåííî íåïîäõîäèò äëÿ ãðàíä-ìèêñîâ! ! !


ï.ñ.
- ïðîïóñòèë åù¸ ïîõîæèõ ïî õàðàêòåðó - "Grand Piano 440" è "Serious Classic". Îíè õîðîøî çâó÷àò áåç ñîñòàâà(äðàì-áàñ) äëÿ àêîìïàíèìåíòà äëÿ ñîëî sax èëè vocal è òï.. - ñì. íîâûé ñïèñîê:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2008 18:35 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

- ìîÿ èòîãîâàÿ èñòèíà!(åñëè êîìó èíòåðåñíî)
â kurzweil pc2x-series åñòü(äëÿ ìåíÿ) ëèøü 6 :icon3: òåìáðîâ( - äëÿ "comfort stage" ñîëî ÔÏ èëè àêîìïàíèìåíòà, äóåòà èëè áåíäà) :

Stereo Grand +/- Slow Strings
Lounge E Pno +/- Big Brass
BackgroundOrgan
/
Round and Wound

ï.ñ.
â íîâîì sp2x åñòü - "Stereo Grand", "Round and Wound", è ïî-ìîåìó òàì "Dyno My E Piano" = "Lounge E Pno".
Íåõâàòàåò ëèøü - "Slow Strings", "Big Brass", "BackgroundOrgan") :icon13: ..
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2008 20:52 
Ñòàâðîïîëü


rollland, ïîõîæå íåêîòîðûå òåìáðû â SP2X èç Êëàññèê Êåéç ðàñøèðåíèÿ, åñëè ÿ íè÷åãî íå ïóòàþ. Ùàñ çàïóùó ìàíàãåð - ïåðåïðîâåðþ...
TrollProof™ System
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2008 23:17 
Ñòàâðîïîëü


Äà, òàê îíî è åñòü... Îäèí âîçìîæíî äàæå èç Îðêåñòðàë.

Òû óâåðåí, ÷òî ñïèñîê îêîí÷àòåëüíûé? À âîò åù¸ âîïðîñèê íà çàñûïêó: ìîæåøü íå÷òî ïîäîáíîå äàòü è äëÿ ÐÑ88-ñåðèè êóðöåâ? Áûëî áû çäîðîâî...
TrollProof™ System
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 09.02.2008 03:16 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

>ìîæåøü íå÷òî ïîäîáíîå äàòü è äëÿ ÐÑ88-ñåðèè êóðöåâ? Áûëî áû çäîðîâî...

 PC88 òîò ñàìûé çíàìåíèòûé "award-winning"(1996ã) ô-íî ñýìïë! òàê îí è çâó÷èò òàê êàê â òîì âèäåî ãäå J. Rudes("DT") íà K2600SX! îòëè÷àåòñÿ ëèøü òåì ÷òî â PC88 íå ñòåðåî ô-íî ñåìïëû.
 ìèêðî ïèàíî(èëè sp88/76) òîæå íå ñòåðåî, è îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò PC88 êîðåêòèðîâêîé ô-íî òåìáðîâ(èìõî â õó÷øóþ ñòîðîíó, ïîòîìó ÷òî íåòó òàì ñóïåð òåìáðà "Sus Piano 440" êàê â PC88, ÅÏ - "Classic E Piano", è ñòðèíãà-ïîäêëàäà - "... & Strings") ..
íî ìíå íóæåí kurzweil ME-1!!

>Òû óâåðåí, ÷òî ñïèñîê îêîí÷àòåëüíûé?

ÄÀ! - óâåðåí!! Âåðíóëñÿ ñ òèïî-êîíöåðòà(â øèêàðíîì ðåñòîðàíå), - ñïèñîê ïîäòâåðäèëñÿ íà 100%! ! !
1. äëÿ ñîëî ÔÏ/ÅÏ:

Stereo Grand +/- Slow Strings
Lounge E Pno
BackgroundOrgan
(ÝÔÔ: - "bright stage" reverb 16%, chorus 9%).


2. äëÿ àêîìïàíèìåíòà:

Stereo Grand
Lounge E Pno +/- Big Brass
/
Round and Wound
(ÝÔÔ: - "dark stage" reverb 16%, chorus 9%).

- øåñòü ñóïåð òåìáðîâ!
Áðàññ íå íàäî òðàíñïîíèðîâàòü íà îêòàâó êàê ðàíøå ãäå-òî ðåêîìåíäîâàë. Îòïàëè âñå äðóãèå áàñ ãèòàðû!! - Round and Wound êàê ðàç(ïî õàðàêòåðó è ýêñïðåññèâíîñòè) ñî÷åòàåòñÿ ñ Lounge E Pno èëè Stereo Grand.
â îáùåì - äëÿ "COMFORT STAGE" ëó÷øèõ çâóêîâ íåíàéäåòå(â æåëåçíûõ ñèíòàõ)! - äàæå â "NORD STAGE-88" íå òî .. - òàì äðóãàÿ òóñîâêà
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 11.02.2008 14:58 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

>Òû óâåðåí, ÷òî ñïèñîê îêîí÷àòåëüíûé?

îêàçûâàåòñÿ ñïèñîê áûë íå îêîí÷àòåëüíûé ..., íî òåïåðü óæå âûáðàë îêîí÷àòåëüíî 14 òåìáðîâ-favourites!! :
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 11.02.2008 15:15 



ÿ ÷îò íå ïîíèìàþ, â ÷åì ñìûñë òàêèõ òåì? :da:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 11.02.2008 15:42 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

- õîòèì sp2x íîâóþ âåðñèþ ..

ï.ñ.
ñìûñë î÷ ãëóáîêè!!
à êàêîé ñìûñë äðóãèõ òåì?(íàïðèìåð: "êóïèë psr-75 - ïîçäðàâòå ìåíÿ ..")
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 12.02.2008 00:26 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

ñîððè!! - äîëæåí èñïðàâèòü îäèí áðåä! - â ìåñòî Lounge E Pno çàïèñàë Classic E Piano, Dyno E Pno è 70 s FM Tines. À Lounge E Pno óõîäèò â êîìëåêò ê Classic Grand.
- âîò îêîí÷àòåëüíûé ðåçóëüòàò:
(ÏÎÑËÅÄÍÈÉ ! ! ! :))
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Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 13.02.2008 00:15 
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Kurzweil, Yamaha

â îáùåì ÿ ðàñïðîùàëñÿ c ìàññèâíûì-áëèçêèì("ROOM")Stereo Grand, - ìåíÿ ðàäóåò ïðåêðàñíûé Classic Grand(STAGE)!!

ÝÔÔ: large hall~16%, chorus~9%.
(hall - íå áðàéò!) :
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Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 20.02.2008 15:43 
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê
Nord Stage

Çäðàâñòâóé,rollland!
ß î÷åíü öåíþ Âàøè ñòàðàíèÿ. Íî ÷åòî íå ïîíèìàþ ÿ çà÷åì ñîçäàâàòü êàêèå-òî ñïèñêè ñî÷åòàíèÿ òåìáðîâ, à òåì áîëåå ïðîâîäèòü ïàðàëåëè ìåæäó àêóñòè÷åñêèìè è ýëåêòðî ïèàíàìè. Âû æå íå õîòèòå ÷òîáû âñå èãðàëè Âàøèìè ëþáèìûìè òåìáðàìè.
Íó ýòî ìîæíî îòáðîñèòü. Âîçìîæíî ìû ïðîñòî ìûñëèì â ðàçíûõ íàïðàâëåíèÿõ. Âêóñû åñòü âêóñû.

Âû çäåñü äåìîíñòðèðóåòå çâó÷àíèå èíñòðóìåíòà, íî â òî æå âðåìÿ ïðèìåøèâàåòå ê íåìó ñâîþ äðàì-ìàøèíó è áåñïîùàäíî èñïîëüçóåòå ýêâàëàéçåð.
Íå çíàþ â ÷åì èìåííî ïðè÷èíà - â Âàøåì âêóñå èëè ìîæåò áûòü â Âàøåé àêóñòè÷åñêîé ñèñòåìå (ìîæåòå îòâåòèòü, ÷òî ïðè÷èíà â ìîåì âêóñå è ìîåé àêóñòèêå:))) - íî åñëè Âû æåëàåòå ïîìî÷ü êîìó-òî â âûáîðå èíñòðóìåíòà (íàïðèìåð ìíå), ïðîøó Âàñ, äåìîíñòðèðóéòå çâóê òàêèì, êàêîé îí åñòü. Ìîæíî äîáàâëÿòü ýôôåêòû, íî èñïîëüçîâàíèå ýêâàëàéçåðà - ýòî óæå ïðåòåíçèÿ íà çâóê Êóðöâåéëà!
Ýêâàëàéçåð ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü òîãäà, êîãäà ýòîãî òðåáóåò ìèêñ. Êîãäà êðîìå êóðöà çâó÷àò äðóãèå èíñòðóìåíòû è ïîëó÷àåòñÿ "÷àñòîòíàÿ êàøèöà". Çäåñü çâó÷èò îäèí êóðö, à Âû åìó îáðåçàåòå ÷àñòîòû.
Óáðàòü íèç, äîáàâèòü âåðõ - äâå ïóëè â ñåðäöå çâóêó ðîÿëÿ! Ïîâåðüòå ïèàíèñòó!

Ãëÿäÿ íà Âàøè ñòàðàíèÿ, ñîâñåì íå õî÷åòñÿ Âàñ êðèòèêîâàòü. Íî íàïðèìåð ìíå î÷åíü íóæíà Âàøà ïîìîùü. Îäíàæäû ìåíÿ ñáèëè ñ òîëêó âûñîêèå ÷àñòîòû â Âàøèõ çàïèñÿõ, äóìàë êóðö òàê çâó÷èò. Äîáàâèë íèçêèõ - äûê ëó÷øå ñòàëî.
Åñëè áû ÿ îòïðàâèë Âàì ìèäè-ôàéë, ìîãëè áû ëè Âû çàïèñàòü åãî çâóêàìè êóðöà áåç èçìåíåíèé è âûëîæèòü çäåñÿ? Áóäó î÷åíü ïðèçíàòåëåí. Åñëè Âàñ ýòî íå ñèëüíî çàòðóäíèò.

Ïîæàëóéñòà íå âîñïðèíèìàéòå íàïèñàííîå, êàê êðèòèêó. Ñêîðåå ýòî ñîâåò! Õîòèòå ïðèíèìàéòå, íå õîòèòå - íå íàäî.
Ñïàñèáî!
«Íóæíî ìíîãî âðåìåíè, ÷òîáû èãðàòü òàê, êàê òû ñàì» - Ìàéëç.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 20.02.2008 17:05 
Ñòàâðîïîëü


Ìîãó ïîïðîáîâàòü îòïðàâèòü òåáå ÑÏ2Õ ñýìïëû, îíè âðîäå îñòàëèñü íà ïî÷òîâîì ñåðâàêå. Ìîæåò, â ïðèíöèïå, è rollland, äóìàþ ïåðåñëàòü... ó íåãî âñå ìîè äåìêè ñï2øíûå åñòü.
TrollProof™ System
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 20.02.2008 17:14 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

íåîáðàùàéòå âíèìàíèÿ, âåäü ýòî-æ ÿ ñ ñîáîé ðàçãàâàðèâàþ è âûÿñíÿþ çâóê è õàðàêòåðíûå ñî÷åòàíèÿ ýòîãî ñëîæíîãî(òåïåðü óæå ÿñíîãî) pc2-series êîìïëåêòà ..

>Íî ÷åòî íå ïîíèìàþ ÿ çà÷åì ñîçäàâàòü êàêèå-òî ñïèñêè ñî÷åòàíèÿ òåìáðîâ,

óæå âûøå îáüÿñíèë, ãîòîâèì ïèñüìî â Kurzweil Music System: "- õîòèì sp2x íîâóþ âåðñèþ .."


> è áåñïîùàäíî èñïîëüçóåòå ýêâàëàéçåð.
> - ýòî óæå ïðåòåíçèÿ íà çâóê Êóðöâåéëà!
>ïîëó÷àåòñÿ "÷àñòîòíàÿ êàøèöà". Çäåñü çâó÷èò îäèí êóðö, à Âû åìó îáðåçàåòå ÷àñòîòû.
>Óáðàòü íèç, äîáàâèòü âåðõ - äâå ïóëè â ñåðäöå çâóêó ðîÿëÿ! Ïîâåðüòå ïèàíèñòó!
>Îäíàæäû ìåíÿ ñáèëè ñ òîëêó âûñîêèå ÷àñòîòû â Âàøèõ çàïèñÿõ, äóìàë êóðö òàê çâó÷èò. Äîáàâèë íèçêèõ - äûê ëó÷øå ñòàëî.

îãî ñêîëüêî ïðåòåíçèè íà EQ!! - ÿ âåäü òîæå(âûøå) ñàì ïðèçíàëñÿ: "íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü ñäåëàë âûâîä: - ÷òî íåëüçÿ íàñòîëüêî óáèðàòü íèçû è äîáàâëÿòü âûñîêèå .. - ïîëó÷àåòñÿ êàñòðèðîâàííûé çâóê :icon13: . "
êñòàòè, ìíå è íåíóæåí grand-stage çâóê, íî òàì áåñåäà(è çàïèñü) áûëà ïðî èìåííî òàêîé çâóê.


>Åñëè áû ÿ îòïðàâèë Âàì ìèäè-ôàéë, ìîãëè áû ëè Âû çàïèñàòü åãî çâóêàìè êóðöà áåç èçìåíåíèé è âûëîæèòü çäåñÿ?

ìîãó!- ïîïðîáóåì.

ï.ñ.
äëÿ òåõ êîìó èíòåðåñíî(ó êîãî åñòü ýòè òåìáðû)
- "Piano for layers" îòëè÷íî çâó÷èò(è âåñåëûé-ðàäîñòíûé õàðàêòåð òåìáðà)! õîòü è òàêòèëüíîå îùóùåíèå ïî-íà÷àëó êàçàëîñü íåíàòóðàëüíîå, íî òåïåðü ñêàæó ÷òî òàì âñå ok - è ãëàâíîå EQ óæå òî÷üíî íåíóæåí!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 20.02.2008 17:53 
Ñòàâðîïîëü


×òî-òî îòïðàâèë, íî íå çíàþ äîøëè ëè âëîæåíèÿ: ó ÿíäåêñà ñ ïîâòîðíîé îòïðàâêîé ïèñåì õåðü êàêàÿ-òî, ïîïðîáóþ åù¸ óòðîì.
TrollProof™ System
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 20.02.2008 17:53 
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê
Nord Stage

Ñïàñèáî ðåáÿòà!
Âû î÷åíü äîáðûå!
Êàê ñîáåðóñü, íàêàòàþ è âûëîæó ìèäè ôàéëèêè.
Ïîêà âðåìåíè â îáðåç - ïèøó ïàðòèòóðó, à ñðîêè ïîäæèìàþò...

>îãî ñêîëüêî ïðåòåíçèè íà EQ!!
Èçâèíè. Ó ìåíÿ áûâàåò. Êàê çàâåäóñü è îñòàíîâèòüñÿ íå ìîãó.
Ïðîñòî ìíå íðàâèòñÿ ãëóáîêèé, îáüåìíûé çâóê ðîÿëÿ. Êàê ó Äàÿíû Êðîëë! :idea2:
«Íóæíî ìíîãî âðåìåíè, ÷òîáû èãðàòü òàê, êàê òû ñàì» - Ìàéëç.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 20.02.2008 17:56 
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê
Nord Stage

rubin
>×òî-òî îòïðàâèë, íî íå çíàþ äîøëè ëè âëîæåíèÿ: ó ÿíäåêñà ñ ïîâòîðíîé îòïðàâêîé ïèñåì õåðü êàêàÿ-òî, ïîïðîáóþ åù¸ óòðîì.

Óïñ. Íå äîøëè. Ïóñòîå ïèñüìåöî ïîëó÷èëîñü.
«Íóæíî ìíîãî âðåìåíè, ÷òîáû èãðàòü òàê, êàê òû ñàì» - Ìàéëç.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 20.02.2008 19:25 
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê
Nord Stage

rubin
Ìíå ïðèøëî òâîå ïèñüìî ñ äåìêàìè.
Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî!
«Íóæíî ìíîãî âðåìåíè, ÷òîáû èãðàòü òàê, êàê òû ñàì» - Ìàéëç.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 26.02.2008 21:07 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

âñ¸! - èçó÷èë è ãðóáî ñôîðìóëèðîâàë - pc2x-series òåìáðû(÷òîá áûëî âñ¸ ÿñíî) ìîæíî ðàçäåëèòü â òðè ÷àñòè:
1) - îòäåëüíûé ñóïåð hammond(KB3).
2) - îòäåëüíûé(òèïî æèâîé-room)ñóïåð ðîÿëü è ðîäåñ(íàïðèìåð "Grand Piano 440" è "Wurly Road").
3) - è âñå îñòàëüíûå ìèêñîâûå-stage(ensemble) òåìáðû èëè êîìáè, òèïî:
Piano for layers +- Slow Strings(åôô bright~16%, ìîæíî õîðóñ äîáàâèòü~9%).
Ballad E Piano +- Cathedral Vox +- Big Brass è òä.
ëèäû, pads, ..... bass, drums
è òä...

.. - òåïåðü ìîæíî óâåðåííî çàíèìàòñÿ òâîð÷åñòâîì:)!!


ï.ñ.
2)ïóíêò:
Grand Piano 440
Soft E Piano
Wurly Road
(- åôô. reverb-room 20%, chorus 10%). - ìÿãêèé(áàðõàòíûé), ñóïåð-ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûé çâóê! :icon3:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Ô-íî/ÅÏ(kurzweil pc2x-series)
Âðåìÿ: 26.02.2008 21:33 
metro
Kurzweil, Yamaha

ï.ñ.

ëó÷øå-áû kurzweil âûïóñòèë òðè îòäåëüíûå "êîðîáêè":
1) ìîäóëü - hammond(KB3);
2) ìîäóëü ÔÏ/ÅÏ(êàê micro piano);
3) è êë ñ "stage-ensemble" ìèêñîâûìè çâóêàìè.

òîãäà íåáûëî ëþäÿì òóìàíà êàê ñåé÷àñ, - ïðîäàæà áûëà ïîêðó÷å è òä..
:alc:
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!