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Òåìà: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2005 16:45 |
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Ñêàæèòå, äåø¸âûå ñèíòåçàòîðû äî 15 ò.ð. ïî òèïó âñÿêèõ ÿìàõ èìåþò âîçìîæíîñòè òîëüêî ìèäè èëè ÷òî-òî áîëüøåå? Íà ïðèìåðå êîìïüþòåðíûõ ïðîãðàì. Fruity loops ìîæåò èñïîëüçîâàòü êàê òàáëèöó ìèäè, òàê è ïîëíîöåííûé ñèíòåçàòîð, òàì ýòî ÷¸òêî ðàçäåëåíî. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 13.07.2005 16:58 |
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Íóó, ñêàæåì òàê, ñèíòåçàòîðû çà 15000 ð. óæå áîëåå-ìåíåå ïðèëè÷íû. ß, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íå ïîíÿë Âàøåãî âîïðîñà. Ïðåäïîëàãàþ, Âû õîòåëè ñïðîñèòü åñòü ëè â êëàâèøàõ òàêîãî öåíîâîãî äèàïàçîíà íåñêîëüêî òèïîâ ñèíòåçà ( ïðîèãðûâàíèå çàøèòûõ ñåìïëîâ, FM-ñèíòåç, VA è ïð.) ? Åñëè ÿ Âàñ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë, òî åñòü èíòåðåñíûå ïåðñîíàæè 
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2005 12:18 |
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Ìîñêâà êëàâèøíûå - Alesis Ion,Kurzweil PC161, Kawai K5000 S 
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Ðîñòèê òû ñ÷àñòëèâûé ÷åë - ÿ âîò ÷òîòî ðàç 20òü ïðî÷èòàë è ÷åãî òî íå ïîíèìàþ ÷òî õî÷åò ÷åëîâåê | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2005 14:16 |
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Âîáùåì-òî ïðàâèëüíî, ÿ ïðàâäà íå çíàþ ÷òî òàêîå FM-ñèíòåç, VA. Åñëè â ñèíòåçàòîðå êðîìå ìèäè çâóêîâ íè÷åãî íåò, òî è ïðèîáðåòàòü åãî íå ñëåäóåò. Ïîìîåìó. À êàêèå êîíêðåòíî ïåðñîíàæè? |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2005 16:01 |
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>>ÿ ïðàâäà íå çíàþ ÷òî òàêîå FM-ñèíòåç, VA. http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=5ehnhcug9cbdr?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Frequency+modulation+synthesis&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc01a http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/2288/2fmsynth.htm http://www.musicdsp.org/phpWiki/index.php/FmSynthesis Äàííûé òèï ñèíòåçà èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â Yamaha DX/TX è ÷àñòè÷íî â SY/TG 77/99 FS1R, à òàêæå â Casio VZ1/VZ10m. VA-ñèíòåç (Virtual Analog) http://www.musicdsp.org/phpWiki/index.php/VirtualAnalog?PHPSESSID=647c82ceb6acb31caf0da13f77a3fa38: Ìîäåëèðîâàíèå àíàëîãîâûõ ñèíòîâ. Èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â ñèíòàõ ôèðì Novation, Access, Clavia, Alesis, Yamaha, Roland è äð. Wavetable ñèíòåç ôèðìû Waldorf (íå ïóòàòü ñ ñ îáû÷íûì âåéâòåéáëîì !) http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Wavetable-101.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wavetable_synthesis http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=5ehnhcug9cbdr?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Wavetable+synthesis&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc01a Physical modelling: http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Articles/Physical_Modeling/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_modeling_synthesis http://www.enlightenedsystems.com/vl/research.htm http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=5ehnhcug9cbdr?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Physical+modelling+synthesis&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc01a Èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â Korg Prophecy, Yamaha VL1/VL7/VL70m Ïðîèãðûâàíèå ñåìëîâ (Sample playback, PCM): Íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííûé òèï. Ïðîèãðûâàíèå çàøèòûõ â ïàìÿòü ñåìïëîâ. Linear Arithmetic: Êîìáèíàöèÿ âîñïðîèçâåäåíèÿ ñåìïëîâ è öèôðîâîãî ñèíòåçà. Èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â D-ñåðèè ôèðìû Roland http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=o27e7hf7h4fp?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Roland+D-50&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc02b&linktext=Roland%20D-50 Àääèòèâíûé ñèíòåç: http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1e38a570bpi5n?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Additive+synthesis&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03a Ñóáòðàêòèâíûé ñèíòåç: http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=o27e7hf7h4fp?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Subtractive+synthesis&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc02b Åñòü åù¸ ãðàíóëÿðíûé ñèíòåç, ñèíòåç íà îñíîâå ìîäåëèðîâàíèÿ íåéðîííûõ öåïåé (Hartmann Neuron) è äð. http://www.moline.ru/articles/synth.php http://www.moline.ru/equip/studio/module/asynth/asynth.php Èç êëàâèø, â êîòîðûõ ïðèñóòñòâóåò íåñêîëüêî òèïîâ ñèíòåçà, õî÷åòñÿ îòìåòèòü: Kawai K5000 (W/S/R) - àääèòèâíûé+PCM Yamaha SY77/99 - FM+PCM (AWM â òåðìèíîëîãèè ßìàõè) Yamaha FS1R - Formant shaping (ðàçâèòèå FM) Dave Smith Evolver/PolyEvolver - Analog+Wavåtable Ôèðìà ßìàõà ïîøëà èíòåðåñíûì ïóò¸ì. Ñîçäàâàÿ ðàñøèðåíèÿ äëÿ ñâîèõ ñèíòåçàòîðîâ è âîðêñòåéøåíîâ, îíè íå êðîìå êàê íàêëåïàòü ïëàòû ñ çàøèòûìè çâóêàìè, ñîçäàëè íåñêîëüêî ïëàò, êîòîðûå ðåàëèçóþò íåêîòîðûå èç âûøåîïèñàííûõ ñïîñîáîâ ñèíòåçà. Òàê â ñåðèè PLG åñòü ðåàëèçàöèÿ FM ñèíòåçà, àíàëîãîâîå ìîäåëèðîâàíèå, ôèçè÷åñêîå ìîäåëèðîâàíèå. Íó è êó÷êà ïëàò ñ ïðîèãðûâàíèåì ñåìïëîâ. Âñå ýòè ïëàòû ìîæíî âñòàâëÿòü â íåêîòîðûå ìîäåëè îò ÿìàõè (S30, S90, Motif, CS6R, PSR9000Pro) Âîò íåìíîãî èíôû, ïåðåâàðèâàéòå. Åæëè ÷òî çàáûë èëè ïðîïóñòèë - ïðîñòèòå
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2005 16:17 |
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íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíÿë, âîïðîñ çàêëþ÷àëñÿ â òîì, ìîãóò ëè ñèíòû ýòîé öåíîâîé êàòåãîðèè âîèñïðîèçâîäèòü ñýìïëû êðîìå ñòàíäàðòíûõ 128 GM êîíå÷íî ìîãóò, äàæå ñàìûå äåø¸âûå ìîäåëè èìåþò ïîìèìî 128ìè GM åù¸ ñîòåíêó-äðóãóþ âøèòûõ ñýìïëîâ, à íàïðèìåð ó êàñèî âê-3500 ýòî ÷èñëî äîñòèãàåò 600-700 êàæåòñÿ òàêæå íåêîòîðûå ìîäåëè èìåþò íåñêîëüêî ìåãàáàéò ïàìÿòè, ÷òîáû çàïèñûâàòü äîïîëíèòåëüíûå ñýìïëû |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 14.07.2005 16:34 |
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Çàáûë åù¸ Korg Oasys è Alesis Fusion HD ñåðèþ. Íî îíè ïîêà äîðîãè. Êàê è Clavia Nord Electro (ìîäåëèðîâàíèå îðãàíà è ïðîèãðûâàíèå ñåìïëîâ.) Íî ÷òî æå èíòåðåñíî àâòîðó âîïðîñà ? È ÷òî òàêîå ìèäè-çâóê ? Êðîêîêîò ? 
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2005 14:33 |
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Ìèäè, â ìî¸ì ïîíèìàíèè, ôóôëî. Ñïàñèáî çà ñîäåðæàòåëüíûé îòâåò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2005 14:44 |
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Lea, òâîå ïîíèìàíèå íåâåðíî, ïðè÷åì íå â òîì ñìûñëå ÷òî "îäíîìó íðàâèòñÿ îäíî, äðóãîìó äðóãîå", à _â_ïðèíöèïå_ íåêîððåêòíî. Òû íå ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî åñòü ÌÈÄÈ. Åòî íå â óïðåê ãîâîðèòñÿ, ïðîñòî òåáå æå ëó÷øå îçíàêîìèòüñÿ ñ ïðåäìåòîì êàê ñëåäóåò ïåðåä òåì, êàê ÷òî-òî ïðåäïðèíèìàòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 15.07.2005 15:12 |
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>>Ìèäè, â ìî¸ì ïîíèìàíèè, ôóôëî. Àààààà! Ñåì¸í, Ñåì¸íû÷ ! Òåïåðü ÿ ïîíÿë âîïðîñ... Ìèäè - ýòî ñòàíäàðòíûõ 128 GM çâóêîâ ? Óãàäàë ? P.S. Îçíàêîìèòüñÿ Âàì ñ ïðåäìåòíîé îáëàñòüþ íå ïîìåøàåò. Àäíàçíà÷íà... |
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Òåìà: Re: Âîïðîñ
Âðåìÿ: 16.07.2005 17:49 |
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Ìîñêâà Âñ¸, ÷òî ñâÿçàíî ñî çâóêîì 
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Ìèäè-çâóê. Íàäî áóäåò çàïîìíèòü, îðèãèíàëüíî. | |
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