| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 12.05.2023 12:38 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå  
|
Çàäà÷à: íàéòè êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü (æåëàòåëüíî ïîëóðýêîâûé, èëè ðåêîâûé, íî ñî ñúåìíûìè "óøàìè") äëÿ òàñêàíèÿ íà ðåïåòèöèè ñ êîìïàêòíîé ìèäè-êëàâîé. Èäåàëüíûì âàðèàíòîì áûë áû Kurzweil ME1, íî îí â ïðîäàæå âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ïðèìåðíî íèêîãäà. Roland JV 1010/2020 - òà æå èñòîðèÿ. Èç çâóêîâ ìíå íóæíû â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü õîðîøèé àêêîðäåîí, êëàâåñèí è öåðêîâíûé îðãàí (ïî êàêîâîé ïðè÷èíå ìíå íå ïîäõîäèò èìåþùèéñÿ ó ìåíÿ Kurzweil MicroPiano). Âàðèàíò êëàâà+ñìàðòôîí íå ðàññìàòðèâàþ, ñëèøêîì îùóòèìàÿ çàäåðæêà.  îáùåì, åñëè åñòü êàêèå èäåè - ïèøèòå. È äà, ÿ íåñêîëüêî ñòàðîìîäåí è çàñòðÿë ãäå-òî â 2000-õ, ìîæåò òåõíîëîãèè óæå øàãíóëè âïåðåä è åñòü êàêèå-òî ñîâðåìåííûå êîìïàêòíûå ðåøåíèÿ? |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 12.05.2023 13:50 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
ÌîñêÂà
|
Roland INTEGRA-7 | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 12.05.2023 15:25 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards 
|
Âî-ïåðâûõ, Roland SonicCell À â-îñòàëüíûõ, — âåðîÿòíî, ìåíåå ïîäõîäÿùåå... Íî íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé Roland XPS-10 — íåäîñòàòî÷íî êîìïàêòíîå ðåøåíèå (êëàâèàòóðà ñî çâóêàìè)? https://www.roland.com/global/products/xps-10/ Á/ó (íî ýòî ìîäóëè ðýêîâûå, ñ "óøàìè"): Roland XV5050 Kurzweil PC2R |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 12.05.2023 17:07 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
Õîðîøèé ìîäóëü äëÿ ðåïåòèöèé - ýòî ÷òî-òî èíòåðåñíîå. Ðåïåòèöèè â ÑÊÊ? À ïðîñòî yamaha qy100 íå ïîäîéä¸ò? Çàîäíî è ñ ñåêâåíñîðîì. 
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 12.05.2023 18:32 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñèíòåçàòîð 
|
iPad
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2023 02:10 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàìàðà Native Instruments Maschine 2 
|
Roland MC101 - î÷åíü õîðîøèé âàðèàíò èç ñîâðåìåííûõ, íî íå äåø¸âûé. Ïå÷àëüêà. Èç ñòàðüÿ ìîæíî åù¸ ïîèñêàòü Korg NS5R èëè æå ïîñâåæåå è ïîáîëüøå ðàçìåðîì äâóõîêòàâíûé Korg Micro-X - åñëè îò òðèòîíîâñêîãî çâóêà íå âîðîòèò. Òàêæå åñòü íà ñâåòå åù¸ ñâåðõêîìïàêòíûé Ketron SD1000. |
|
|
Ãðóïïû RMT_CTRL è Neon D!ve. Ñàìàðà. https://vk.com/neondive https://vk.com/rmt_ctrl
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2023 02:14 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàìàðà Native Instruments Maschine 2
|
Òàê æå èç ñòàðüÿ ìîæíî ïîèñêàòü ìîäóëè Yamaha ñåðèè MU - 1000, 2000. Ïðàâäà ñåé÷àñ íà àâèòî ïðîäàâöû èç çà êàêèå-òî íåâìåíÿåìûå äåíüãè ïðîäàþò)))) |
|
|
Ãðóïïû RMT_CTRL è Neon D!ve. Ñàìàðà. https://vk.com/neondive https://vk.com/rmt_ctrl
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2023 07:18 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
kurzweil pc2r | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2023 07:20 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
âîò åùå èç âàðèàíòîâ https://www.samplerbox.org/ |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2023 11:32 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Íààðèÿ Èçðàèëü Yamaha MOXF6 Roland Fantom-06, Roland Aerophone AE-30 Pro 
|
yamaha motif xs rack | |
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2023 10:50 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
|
>Âî-ïåðâûõ, >Roland SonicCell Âûáèðàòü ïàò÷è êîëåñîì íåóäîáíî, îñîáåííî íà ëàéâå, à äóáëèðóþùèõ êíîïîê íåò. Åùå çíàþ, ÷òî êîëåñà ýòè íå îñîáî íàäåæíûå (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ó ñòàðûõ ðîëàíäîâ òàê áûëî). >Òàêæå åñòü íà ñâåòå åù¸ ñâåðõêîìïàêòíûé Ketron SD1000 Êðàéíå ðåäêî ïîïàäàåòñÿ â ïðîäàæå. Êàê è ìíîãèå äðóãèå ïîäõîäÿùèå ìíå âàðèàíòû... >Roland XPS-10 — íåäîñòàòî÷íî êîìïàêòíîå ðåøåíèå (êëàâèàòóðà ñî çâóêàìè)? ìíå íàäî 2,5-3 îêòàâû, íå áîëüøå |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2023 10:51 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
|
>Roland MC101 - î÷åíü õîðîøèé âàðèàíò èç ñîâðåìåííûõ, íî íå äåø¸âûé. Ïå÷àëüêà. À akai mpx8 ñ ýòèì ñïðàâèòñÿ? èëè îí ÷èñòî ïîä ðàáîòó ñ áàðàáàíàìè çàòî÷åí? |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2023 17:31 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñèíòåçàòîð
|
> À akai mpx8 ñ ýòèì ñïðàâèòñÿ? èëè îí ÷èñòî ïîä ðàáîòó ñ áàðàáàíàìè çàòî÷åí? Íå òîëüêî ñ áàðàáàíàìè - ñ ëþáûìè ñýìïëàìè. Íî òàì ïðèíöèï òàêîé: îäèí ïýä - îäíà íîòà. Òî åñòü ïîäêëþ÷èòü ê íåìó ìèäè-êëàâèàòóðó è èãðàòü, êàê íà ñýìïëåðíîì ñèíòåçàòîðå, íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2023 17:58 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
Ïîïàäàþòñÿ åù¸ ðàçëè÷íûå âåðñèè Roland Sound Canvas Ðåæå — Roland SK. >>Roland SonicCell >Âûáèðàòü ïàò÷è êîëåñîì íåóäîáíî, îñîáåííî íà ëàéâå, à äóáëèðóþùèõ êíîïîê íåò. Åùå çíàþ, ÷òî êîëåñà ýòè íå îñîáî íàäåæíûå (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ó ñòàðûõ ðîëàíäîâ òàê áûëî). Ó íîâûõ âðîäå òüôó*3. Ïî èäåå, òåìáðû ïåðåêëþ÷àòü áû ñ ìèäèêëàâèàòóðû... (Åñëè íàäî, çàðàíåå íàñîõðàíÿòü íóæíîãî â ïîëüçîâàòåëüñêèé áàíê...) Roland MC-808 ... |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2023 23:34 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàìàðà Native Instruments Maschine 2
|
>akai mpx8 Ýòî î÷åíü ïëîõîé àïïàðàò - ëó÷øå åãî âîîáùå íå ïîêóïàòü íèêîãäà
|
|
|
Ãðóïïû RMT_CTRL è Neon D!ve. Ñàìàðà. https://vk.com/neondive https://vk.com/rmt_ctrl
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2023 23:43 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàìàðà Native Instruments Maschine 2
|
>yamaha motif xs rack Ýòî âîîáùå î÷åíü õîðîøèé âàðèàíò. Êàê è ES Rack - áûë ó ìåíÿ, äîñòîéíûé àïïàðàò. Ïðîñòî ÒÑ ïèñàë î ÊÎÌÏÀÊÒÎÍÎÌ ìîäóëå, æåëàòåëüíî â ïîëóðýêîâîì ôîðìàòå, ÿ èç ýòîãî è èñõîäèë ñ ñîâåòàìè. Åñëè áðàòü ðýêîâûå àïïàðàòû, òî âàðèàíòîâ èíòåðåñíûõ ìîðå: - òóò òåáå è Triton è ïðåäûäóùèå - êàêîé-íèáóäü M1R - ðýêîâûå - Ôàíòîì è ïðåäûäóùèå JDJV.XV... - ðýêîâûå E-MU Proteus ... -îïÿòü æå ðýêîâûå Ensoniq - áûë ó ìåíÿ TS12 - î÷åíü ìîùíûé àãðåãàò, MR òîæå áûë - íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ. - Êóðöû ðýêîâûå êîíå÷íî æå È ò.ä, è ò.ï. Èç ïóñòîãî â ïîðîæíåå èç ãîäà â ãîä Âûáèðàé - íå õî÷ó
|
|
|
Ãðóïïû RMT_CTRL è Neon D!ve. Ñàìàðà. https://vk.com/neondive https://vk.com/rmt_ctrl
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2023 23:44 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ñàìàðà Native Instruments Maschine 2
|
ÊÎÌÏÀÊÒÍÎÌ, ñîððè, î÷åïÿòàëñÿ | |
|
Ãðóïïû RMT_CTRL è Neon D!ve. Ñàìàðà. https://vk.com/neondive https://vk.com/rmt_ctrl
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2023 09:28 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
|
>Ïî èäåå, òåìáðû ïåðåêëþ÷àòü áû ñ ìèäèêëàâèàòóðû... ×òî-òî ïîêà íå íàøåë êîìïàêòíûõ ìèäèêëàâèàòóð (32, ìàêñèìóì 37 êëàâèø) ñ êíîïêàìè ïåðåêëþ÷åíèÿ ïðåñåòîâ... >Ýòî âîîáùå î÷åíü õîðîøèé âàðèàíò Åñëè ÷èòàòü òîïèê íåâíèìàòåëüíî - äà, õîðîøèé |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2023 11:20 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
>>Ïî èäåå, òåìáðû ïåðåêëþ÷àòü áû ñ ìèäèêëàâèàòóðû... >×òî-òî ïîêà íå íàøåë êîìïàêòíûõ ìèäèêëàâèàòóð (32, ìàêñèìóì 37 êëàâèø) ñ êíîïêàìè ïåðåêëþ÷åíèÿ ïðåñåòîâ... Ãëÿíóë ìàíóàë äëÿ Roland A300Pro https://www.roland.com/us/products/a-300pro/ (Support — è òàì) Ìîæíî ìåíÿòü íîìåð ïðîãðàììû êðóòèëêîé, ìîæíî íàçíà÷èòü Program Change – Inc íà îäíó èç ÷åòûð¸õ êíîïîê (B1—4), Program Change - Dec — íà äðóãóþ... |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2023 11:41 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
Ñàì ïðèñìàòðèâàþñü ê ýòîé ñåðèè (íî òàêîå âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî ÷¸ðíûå êëàâèøè øèðîêîâàòû, à "âæèâóþ" ïðîâåðèòü âðîäå íåãäå)...  íåé òàêàÿ ìîäåëü — icon iKeyboard 4s ProDrive 3 https://iconproaudio.com/product/ikeyboard-4s-prod rive/ Ñîãëàñíî ìàíóàëó (îí â ñåêöèè Downloads), ïàðàìåòð Prorgam íàçíà÷àåòñÿ, íî îïèñàíî íåïîäðîáíî: " Section 2 ... 2.2 User defined mode (Advance user) If you would like to assign your own midi mapping, select “User Defined” mode at the control mode drop down menu. To assign a control, select it by clicking it and assign a different midi message by the three drop down menus. The table below shows the different types of midi messages and their changeable parameters. MIDI Message Type Channel Parameters Note 0 to 16 -1(C) to 9(G) CC 0 to 16 0 to 127 Program 0 to 16 0 to 127 " È íå ïîíÿë, ÷òî çà "ìèäèêàíàë íîìåð íîëü"...  ñóììå 17, ÷òî ëè, ïîëó÷àåòñÿ?... È ñîáñòâåííî ñëîâîñî÷åòàíèå Program Change â ìàíóàëå îòñóòñòâóåò. Êàê-òî ïîäîáíîå íå ðàñïîëàãàåò ê ïîêóïêå... |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2023 11:44 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
Ñäåëàííîå ìíîþ "ôîðìàòèðîâàíèå" áûëî ïðîèãíîðèðîâàíî ) Íó-êà òàê: " MIDI Message Type ___ Channel ___ Parameters Note ________________ 0 to 16 ____ -1(C) to 9(G) CC _________________ 0 to 16 ____ 0 to 127 Program _____________ 0 to 16 ____ 0 to 127 " |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2023 11:50 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
À, íó è çà÷åì èìåííî " s ProDrive " Âñòðîåííûé USB-àóäèî-èíòåðôåéñ ñ ïîääåðæêîé ASIO. È â Compatibility óêàçàíû è âåðñèè iOS (÷òî áû ýòî íè çíà÷èëî). Îäíàêî åñëè ñåòåâîé àäàïòåð â êîìïëåêòàöèþ íå âõîäèò — è åãî íàäî ïîäáèðàòü-èñêàòü îòäåëüíî, — ýòî ïÎøëî. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2023 15:36 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
Ó IK Multimedia iRig_Keys_2 (Pro) åñòü êíîïêè, ÷òîáû ãîíÿòü ïðåñåòû ââåðõ-âíèç. https://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/img/library/irigkeys2 /ikc-L-Keys_2_Buttons.jpg https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigkeys2/in dex.php?p=info |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 18.05.2023 15:37 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
>Ó IK Multimedia iRig_Keys_2 (Pro) åñòü êíîïêè, ÷òîáû ãîíÿòü ïðåñåòû ââåðõ-âíèç. >https://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/img/library/irigkeys 2 /ikc-L-Keys_2_Buttons.jpg [Prog] |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Èùó êîìïàêòíûé çâóêîâîé ìîäóëü, ìîæåò êòî ïîäñêàæåò
Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2023 10:45 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Í-ñê Keyboards
|
DSailer, ÷òî â èòîãå âûáðàëè? |
|
|
|
||