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Âîò òàêèì êàáåëåì:  Èíòåðåñóåò ïðåæäå âñåãî ñòàáèëüíîñòü ðàáîòû ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ ÷èñòûì Ìèäè. |
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Òÿíåò â ìèêñîëèäèéñêèé ëàä
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Âðåìÿ: 31.08.2020 23:58 |
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 íàøå âðåìÿ ïîäè åù¸ íàéäè êîìïüþòåð ñ COM-ïîðòîì. | |
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 10:53 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò. 
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South Stone , Çà÷åì ýòîò ãåìîð â 2020 ãîäó? ß áàðûæèë ßìîâñêèìè ñàìîèãðàéêàìè âî âòîðîé ïîëîâèíå 90-õ. Âîò òîãäà áûëî èíòåðåñíî òàêîå ïîäêëþ÷åíèå. È òî - ÷èñòî ðàäè ñàìîðàçâèòèÿ. Íî íàéòè êàáåëü áûëî ïðîáëåìàòè÷íî. Èáî ýòî íå ðîäíîé äëÿ PC ïëàòôîðìû òèï êàáåëüíîãî ðàçü¸ìà. Ðîäíîé îí äëÿ Ìàêà. À èíòåðôåéñ - îí êðîñïëàòôîðìåííûé. Îáû÷íûé ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíûé RS-232. Ïîä íåãî íà PC ïëàòôîðìû â ÎÑ Âèíäîâñ íóæíî ïîäáèðàòü è ñòàâèòü UART äðàéâåðà. Ñàìûé ðàáî÷èé Roland Serial MIDI Driver. Ïðîâåðåíà ðàáîòîñïîñîáíîñòü íà Âèí 95, Âèí 2000, Âèí ÕÐ, Âèí 7. Íà âèí 10 íå ïðîáîâàë. Íà îäíîì ïîæèëîì Ëýïòîïå ñ Âèí ÕÐ äî ñèõ ïîð ñòîèò òàêîé äðàéâåð. Ïðåêðàñíî ðàáîòàåò â ñâÿçêå ñ Êåòðîíàìè. Íî ýòî òàê - ïëþøêè äÿë ïîæèëîãî îáîðóäîâàíèÿ. Íå áîëåå.  òå äàë¸êèå âðåìåíà âåðõíåãî ìåëîâîãî ïåðèîäà - ÿ ñëó÷àéíî íàäûáàë ó çíàêîìûõ â òèïîãðàôèè äâóõñòîðîííèé êàáåëü îò Ìàêà ñ ìèíè-äèí 8 ïèí ðàçü¸ìàìè èìåííî îò RS-232 èíòåðôåéñà. Ðàçðåçàë ïîïîëàì, íàðûë â èíòåðíåòå ñõåìó ðàñïàéêè 9-ïèíîâîãî D-SUB ðàçü¸ìà äëÿ PC - êóïèë ðàçü¸ì è ðàñïàÿë. Âñ¸ çàðàáîòàëî. Êàê îêàçàëîñü - íè÷åãî õèòðîãî è âîåííîãî òàì íåò. Äâà ïðîâîäíèêà - ïðè¸ì, Äâà - ïåðåäà÷à è îáùèé ïðîâîäíèê. Ñêîðîñòü ïåðåäà÷è àóäèîïîòîêà (ñýìïëîâ) - ìèçåðíàÿ. Ìèäè ôàéëû òîæå ìåäëåííî òàñêàåò. À âîò îáû÷íûé ïîòîê ìèäè äàííûõ - îòëè÷íî. Íî íàïîìèíàþ - òàêîé âàðèàíò êîììóòàöèè áûë áåçïðîáëåìåí ñ íàòèâíûì COM ïîðòîì íà ìàòåðèíñêîé ïëàòå.  íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ ñóùåñòâóþò âíåøíèå USB-RS232 àäàïòåðû. ß ïåðåáðàë àæ 4 ðàçíûõ. Ðàáî÷àÿ ïîä Âèí 7 è Âèí 10 îêàçàëàñü USB-Serial CH340 âåíäîð êàêîé-òî wch.cn ñ ïîæèëûìè äðîâàìè 3.4.2014.8  Âèí ÎÑ âèäíû äðîâà CH341S64.sys ïîñòàâùèê www.winchiphead.com. Âåðñèÿ ôàéëà 3.40 by Win DDK. Ïðèáëóäó ñôîòêàòü íå ìîãó, îíà â êó÷å êàáåëåé ïîäêëþ÷åíà ê ðàáî÷åé ñòàíöèè, òèïà òàêîé. 
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 11:02 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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Âîò, ïîìíèòñÿ òàêîé âîò ïîäîø¸ë è çàðàáîòàë áåç êîñòûëåé. Òîëüêî íàèãðàåòåñü áûñòðî è çàáðîñèòå ýòî äåëî. Âàì ïðèä¸òñÿ êóïèòü ðàçü¸ì ìèíè-äèí 8 ïèí, ðàçü¸ì 9-ïèí D-SUB. êàáåëü, ðàñïàÿòü âñ¸ ýòî äåëî, ñêîììóòèðîâàòü ñ USB-RS232 ïðèáëóäîé, çàòåì ýòó ïðèáëóäó çàâåñòè â ÎÑ Âèí, íàäûáàòü ïîäõîäÿùèå Ðîëàíäîâñêèå äðîâà, äà íåñêîëüêî ðàçíûõ, êàêîé ïîäîéä¸ò...ïîïëÿñàòü ñ áóáíîì â íàñòðîéêàõ, íàñòðîèòü áåçïåðåáîéíóþ ïåðåäà÷ó äàííûõ è òîëüêî òîãäà ãîíÿòü ìèäè äàííûå. Âîò îíî íàäî â 2020 ãîäó???? |
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 11:08 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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ÇÛ - çàáûë óïîìÿíóòü. Ýòà ñâÿçêà â ðàáî÷åì ñîñòîÿíèè äà¸ò íåõèëûé öèôðîâîé ñêðåæåò, êîòîðûé ëåçåò â àóäèîòðàêò ïðè ïåðåäà÷å äàííûõ. Íà Êåòðîíå òàê. Íà ßìàõîâñêèõ ñàìîèãðàéêàõ óæå íå ïîìíþ. Íåòó â íàëè÷èè íè îäíîé ìåçîçîéñêîé. |
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 16:09 |
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ÚÚ , ñïàñèáî. Çíà÷èò ðàáîòàåò. Ïðîñòî åñòü ñòàðûé êîìï êîòîðûé òÿíåò ñòàðûé êóáèê, êîìï áåç USB, GamePort åñòü íî íå ôóðû÷èò (íå âèäèò ñòàðûé äæîéñòèê) è äàæå îäíà åäèíñòâåííàÿ PCI çàíÿòà âèäþõîé. Ðàçú¸ìà ìèíè-äèí 8 ïèí íåò ñàìî ñîáîé, ïîýòîìó îò PS/2. Êàê çàðàáîòàåò îòïèøóñü. |
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Òÿíåò â ìèêñîëèäèéñêèé ëàä
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 16:28 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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>åñòü ñòàðûé êîìï êîòîðûé òÿíåò ñòàðûé êóáèê, êîìï áåç USB, GamePort åñòü íî íå ôóðû÷èò (íå âèäèò ñòàðûé äæîéñòèê) è äàæå îäíà åäèíñòâåííàÿ PCI çàíÿòà âèäþõîé. Ðàçú¸ìà ìèíè-äèí 8 ïèí íåò ñàìî ñîáîé, ïîýòîìó îò PS/2 Ýòî êàêîé-òî íîâûé, äîñåëå íå çíàêîìûé ìíå ñïîñîá ìàçîõèçìà.  Íå áåðóñü äàæå ïðåäïîëîæèòü - WHY??? |
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 16:33 |
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Game Port ìîæåò íå âèäåòü äæîéñòèê, íî óâèäåòü MIDI. Òåîðåòè÷åñêè, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå. Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ïðåäëîæåííûé âûøå âàðèàíò èç äâóõ êàáåëåé MIDI - USB è USB - COM áóäåò ïîïðîùå. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, íå íóæíî èñêàòü êàáåëü ñ ðàçú¸ìîì DIN (ñàìîìó ïàÿòü òàêîé êàáåëü - òà åù¸ ìîðîêà). |
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 16:46 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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Äëÿ Ãåéìïîðòà - åñòü ãîòîâûé êàáåëü MIDI-UART , ñ îïòðîííîé ðàçâÿçêîé â êîðïóñå. Ó ìåíÿ ñî âðåì¸í ìåçîçîÿ âàëÿåòñÿ òàêîé îò M-Audio. Âîò, â ïðîäàæå åñòü ó Êèòàéöåâ, íî ðàáîòîñïîñîáíîñòü Õ.Ç. Âûãëÿäèò â íîëü êàê Ìÿóäèîêàáåëü. Ìÿóäèî êàáåëü - âÿæåòñÿ ñ ëþáûì ãåéìïîðòîì íà äðåâíèõ Êðåàòèâàõ áåç ïðîáëåì. |
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Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2020 19:44 |
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ÌîñêÂà
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ÍåêðîÌÈÄÈçì 
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Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2020 00:37 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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Ðîìà_ðèî , Îò÷åãî æå íåêðî? Ó íàñ åù¸ CV/Gate åñòü.
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Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2020 01:11 |
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>Ó íàñ åù¸ CV/Gate åñòü. Ýòî analog revival, ìîäíàÿ òåìà. 
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Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2020 08:54 |
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Õàðä è ñîôò.
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Eli , The analog did not die! Analog Forever! |
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Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2020 10:30 |
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>Ýòî êàêîé-òî íîâûé, äîñåëå íå çíàêîìûé ìíå ñïîñîá ìàçîõèçìà. >Íå áåðóñü äàæå ïðåäïîëîæèòü - WHY??? Ýòî âñ¸ êàðàíòèí âèíîâàò. Íî è êîìï ôèðìåííûé: HP Vectra VL4  Âñå ïëàòû made in UK, Scotland è Ireland  ß åãî ñ òð¸õ AT-XT-øíèêîâ ñîáðàë.
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>Ýòî âñ¸ êàðàíòèí âèíîâàò. Íó òîãäà êîíå÷íî. ß òóò òîæå âñÿêîå ñòàðü¸ îæèâëÿë... ïîñëåäíåå áûëî Digitech RP200A. À êàêîé ñîôò óìååò ÷èòàòü MIDI ñ COM-ïîðòà? |
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>À êàêîé ñîôò óìååò ÷èòàòü MIDI ñ COM-ïîðòà? Ñ ñèíòàìè ø¸ë «Yamaha CBX driver», îí è ÷èòàåò. ÚÚ âûøå åù¸ êàêîé-òî ïðèâîäèë. Òóò çàãâîçäêà â äðóãîì, íà òàêóþ àðõàèêó èìååò ñìûñë ñòàâèòü êóáèê òîëüêî â êîòîðîì åñòü Logical Editor, ÷òîá ìîã êðîøèòü ìèäè êàê è ëþáàÿ ñîâðåìåííàÿ DAW (âåðíåå êàê ëþáîé ñîâðåìåííûé Êóá). À ýòî ìèíèìóì äóìàþ Cubase VST 5.32 (âåðñèÿ 2000 ãîäà). Ïîýòîìó íàäî ðàñøèðÿòü ïàìÿòü äî ìàêñèìàëêè â 64 Ìá è ñòàâèòü Win 98 SE (ñåé÷àñ W95 íà 8 Ìáàéòàõ). À ñ ïëàíêàìè ïàìÿòè ïî 32 Ìá íà XT-øêè áî-îëüøèå ïðîáëåìû, è öåíû çà íèõ äåðóò ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå. |
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Cakewalk Pro Audio 9. Ðåêîìåíäóþ, ñàì äî ñèõ ïîð ïîëüçóþñü. | |
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Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2020 13:59 |
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>Cakewalk Pro Audio 9. Ðåêîìåíäóþ, ñàì äî ñèõ ïîð ïîëüçóþñü. Áûëà ó ìåíÿ êîíå÷íî, íà ïèðàòñêèõ ñáîðíèêàõ âñ¸ áûëî. Íî íå ïðîáîâàë.  êàêîì òî æóðíàëå êàê îòðåçàëè — ïå÷åíüêà äëÿ áàëîâñòâà, êóáèê äëÿ ìóçûêàíòîâ. À ÷òî òàì óæå â 97 ãîäó áûëî ìèäè-ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèå? |
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Ïîñòàâèë, ñïðîáîâàë — çà÷àòêè ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèÿ åñòü. | |
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