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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
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>>ß âûáðàë ýêðàí 13-äþéìîâ, òàê êàê äåøåâëå è äëÿ ìîáèëüíûõ çàäà÷ âïîëíå õâàòàåò. >Òîëüêî i5 è 2 ÿäðà, à õâàòàåò-íå õâàòàåò - ýòî óæ î÷åíü îò çàäà÷ çàâèñèò, íî ÈÌÕÎ òóò ëó÷øå ñ çàïàñîì. ß èìåë ââèäó íå ïðîèçâîäèòåëüíîñòü êîìïà, à ðàçìåð ìîíèòîðà.  ìîåì ñëó÷àå 13-äþéìîâ õâàòàåò äëÿ æèâûõ âûñòóïëåíèé (ñîáñòâåííî äëÿ ÷åãî ìàê áóê è áðàëñÿ) è ïåðâè÷íîé ðàáîòû â Ëîäæèêå. > À ÷åì m-audio íå óãîäèë â ÝÒÎÉ öåíîâîé êàòåãîðèè? Íå óãîäèë êà÷åñòâîì ïðîäóêöèè. Èç ëè÷íîãî îïûòà - ëîìàëèñü äâà äåâàéñà, ìíå ýòîãî õâàòèëî, ÷òîá áîëüøå íå èñïûòûâàòü íà ñåáå ïðîöåíò áðàêà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 09.10.2013 19:55 |
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Ìîñêâà keyboards, piano, ProTools 
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 äàííîì ñëó÷àå ÷åë âûáèðàåò ñåòàï äëÿ äîìàøíåé ñòóäèè, à íå äëÿ êîíöåðòîâ.  òàêîì ñëó÷àå ÿ áû âçÿë ñåðâåðíûé ìàê ìèíè è õîðîøèé ìîíèòîð äþéìà íà 24 íà IPS ìàòðèöå 1920õ1200, òèïà òîãî æå Dell Ultrasharp. Ê òîìó æå âûéäåò äåøåâëå, ÷åì áóê. | |
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Âðåìÿ: 09.10.2013 22:43 |
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>Acar, >>âîò ïî öâåòó ))) ded&v=Ozr4KsZBTvQ#t=122 >Óæàñ....ÈÌÕÎ Î÷åíü êðóòî! Âû âîîáùå ìóçûêàíò?!) ÷¸ò ÿ íà÷èíàþ ñîìíåâàòüñÿ...) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 00:51 |
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Ìîñêâà Kurzo-Strat 
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22Lemonjam >Î÷åíü êðóòî! Âû âîîáùå ìóçûêàíò?!) ÷¸ò ÿ íà÷èíàþ ñîìíåâàòüñÿ...) ß ðàä ÷òî Âû íàõîäèòå ïðåêðàñíîå òàì , ãäå ìíå íå äàíî . Êîíå÷íî ÿ íå "ìóçûêàíò" â Âàøåì ïîíèìàíèè, è íàäåþñü èì íèêîãäà íåñòàíó. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 12:02 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro. 
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>Íîðä ýëåêòðî 2/3/4 è îäèííàäöàòèäþéìîâûé Ýéð ïîñëåäíåé ìîäèôèêàöèè. >Ñåòàï äëÿ ëþáîé ñöåíû (äëÿ âñåõ æàíðîâ è ñòèëåé),â êîòîðîì íåò íè÷åãî ëèøíåãî. >Äîñòîéíî è óâàæàåìî,ñòóäèéíî ñèìáèîçíî,ìíîãèìè ìóçûêàíòàìè âûñòðàäàíî.. >Çà÷åì ãîðîäèòü îòñåáÿòèíó? ß âîò ïîáîÿëñÿ èç-çà ìîíîòåìáðàëüíîñòè ýëåêòðî è îòñóòñòâèÿ ïèò÷à è ìîäóëÿöèè. Íå æàëåþ! 11" íå ìàëîâàòî? |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 12:14 |
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«Think Different»
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Ñëàáîñòü ñîôòà â òîì,÷òî äî ñèõ ïîð íå ïåðåêðûë àïïàðàòíûå Ðîäåñ/Õàììîíä/Ïèàíî/Äóäêè Âñ¸ îñòàëüíîå â ñîôòå ñòóïåíüþ êðàøå. Äëÿ ýòîãî è íóæåí Íîðä ýëåêòðî. Ñòåéäæ æå,âòîðîé ñèíò ÷àñòüþ,äóáëèðóåò êîìïîâóþ ìóêî/ïóêîâîñòü. Äóáëèðóåò ïîëîâèí÷àòî,à çíà÷èò íå íóæíî,ïðè íàëè÷èè ìàêîâñêîãî ëàïòîïà. Ýéðîâîãî ðàçìåðà äëÿ ñöåíû çà ãëàçà,äà è îí áûñòðåå,ýíåðãîóñòîé÷èâåå,áåç ëèøíåãî... Ïèò÷ êîíå÷íî çâåíî ñëàáîå...ìîäóëÿöèÿ,â ñîðåâíîâàíèè ñ àôòåðòîé÷åì,óæå ïðàêòè÷åñêè íå æèçíåííà. ×åì ïåðåïëà÷èâàòü çà ñòåéäæ ñ ïèò÷åì îãðîìåííûå äåíüãè,ïðîùå äîêóïèòü ëåíó ìèäèêîíòðîëëåð. |
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Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 12:44 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä. 
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>Ðîäåñ/Õàììîíä/Ïèàíî/Äóäêè äóäêè â íîðäå??? äà îí íå óìååò ýëåìåíòàðíîå ñôîðöàíäî èçîáðàçèòü èç-çà óðåçàííîãî ADR âìåñòî ADSR.... õàììîíä? íàéäèòå â íîðäå òàêîé çâóê êàê íà 3.35ñåê ðîäåñ??? 13ñòðàíèö íåäîâîëüíûõ (òàì æå- ðîäåñ êîðãà- 1ìåñòî)))) ïèàíî??? ñêîëüêî òàì, 100ìåãàáàéò ???.... òðåõñåêóíäíûå ñåìïëû ñ ðàñòÿæêîé êàæäîãî ñåìïëà íà 3 êëàâèøè Àâòîð: Àëåêñàíäð Ôåäîðîâ Äàòà ïåðâîé ïóáëèêàöèè: àâã 2006 Èçíà÷àëüíî â öèôðîâûõ ôîðòåïèàíî èñïîëüçîâàëñÿ ñòàíäàðòíûé ìåòîä âîñïðîèçâåäåíèÿ ñåìïëîâ, è íè÷åãî áîëåå. Òî åñòü, êàæäîé êëàâèøå ñîïîñòàâëÿëñÿ ñâîé ñåìïë, çàïèñàííûé ñ ïîìîùüþ ìèêðîôîíà ó ðåàëüíîãî àêóñòè÷åñêîãî ðîÿëÿ. Îäíàêî ðîÿëü — èíñòðóìåíò ñ áîëüøèì äèíàìè÷åñêèì äèàïàçîíîì, è åãî òåìáð ñèëüíî ìåíÿåòñÿ â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñèëû óäàðà ïî êëàâèøàì. Ïîýòîìó íóæíû áûëè ñåìïëû íå òîëüêî äëÿ êàæäîé êëàâèøè, íî è äëÿ íåñêîëüêèõ óðîâíåé äèíàìèêè ïî êàæäîé êëàâèøå. Äëÿ ñîêðàùåíèÿ îáúåìà òðåáóåìîé ïàìÿòè (îíà ñòîèëà äîðîãî) â ðàííèõ ìîäåëÿõ ïðèìåíÿëîñü çàöèêëèâàíèå ñåìëîâ. Êëàâèøà óäåðæèâàëàñü ïîñëå óäàðà íåñêîëüêî ñåêóíä, è çâóê çàïèñûâàëñÿ öåëèêîì, íî ïðè ìîíòàæå îñòàâëÿëè öåëèêîì òîëüêî ó÷àñòêè àòàêè, ñïàäà è çàòóõàíèÿ, êàê íàèáîëåå îòâåòñòâåííûå, ïîñêîëüêó èìåííî ïî íèì ìû â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ñóäèì î äîñòîâåðíîñòè çâó÷àíèÿ. Èìåííî íà ýòèõ ó÷àñòêàõ ïðîèñõîäÿò îñíîâíûå ïåðåõîäíûå ïðîöåññû, ïî êîòîðûì ìû óçíàåì òåìáð ôîðòåïèàíî, èìåííî çäåñü êàæäûé èíñòðóìåíò ïðîÿâëÿåò ñâîé õàðàêòåð, âîâëåêàÿ â ïðîöåññ êîëåáàíèÿ ñîñåäíèå ñòðóíû, ðàìó è äåêó. Çàòåì, ÷åðåç íåñêîëüêî ñåêóíä ïîñëå óäàðà (ÿ ãîâîðþ "óäàðà", ïîñêîëüêó ôîðòåïèàíî — ýòî ñòðóííûé óäàðíûé èíñòðóìåíò), ïåðåõîäíûå ïðîöåññû óñòàêàíèâàþòñÿ è ïåðåõîäÿò â ñòàöèîíàðíîå êîëåáàíèå — ó÷àñòîê ïîääåðæêè, êîòîðûé äëèòñÿ äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà ìû íå îòïóñòèì êëàâèøó. Çàòåì ñëåäóåò åñòåñòâåííîå çàòóõàíèå, òàêæå ñ ïåðåõîäíûìè ïðîöåññàìè. Ïðè ìîíòàæå îñòàâëÿëè ëèøü íåáîëüøîé êóñî÷åê, êîòîðûé ýëåêòðîííûì ñïîñîáîì êðóòèëñÿ â êîëüöå äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà èñïîëíèòåëü íå îòïóñêàë êëàâèøó. Îäíàêî òðåáîâàòåëüíîå óõî ñëûøàëî ýòîò àðòåôàêò. Íåòðóäíî ïîäñ÷èòàòü îáúåì ïîòðåáíîé ïàìÿòè ïîä ñåìïëû. Åñëè ìû çàïèøåì ïî âîñåìü âàðèàíòîâ äèíàìèêè íà êëàâèøó (ñêàæåì ppp, pp, p, mp, mf, f, ff, fff), òî íàì ïîòðåáóþòñÿ 704 ñåìïëà (88 êëàâèø õ 8 óðîâíåé). Åñëè äëèíà êàæäîãî ñåìïëà áóäåò äåñÿòü ñåêóíä, òî ïîëíîå âðåìÿ ñåìïëèðîâàíèÿ ñîñòàâèò 7040 ñåêóíä èëè ïî÷òè äâà ÷àñà. Äàæå ïðè 16-áèòíûõ ñòåðåîñåìïëàõ êàæäàÿ ñåêóíäà ïîòðåáóåò 176 Êá ïàìÿòè. Òî åñòü â èòîãå — 1239040 Êá, èëè, ïðèìåðíî, 1,2 Ãá.(ñ) 1,2ãá ÌÈÍÈÌÓÌ  ..... â êðîíîñå ïî 5ãá ÃÁ ñåìïëîâ äëÿ êàæäîãî ðîÿëÿ , ÷àñòîòà 48 è áàñîâûå ñåìïëû ïî 30ñåê 
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Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 12:54 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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ÿ ñ âàñ õóäåþ.... íîðä-øìîðä.... óæ ëó÷øå ïðîñòî äåøåâûé ôàòàð + âñòýøý÷êè .... à åùå ëó÷øå - êðîíîñ
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Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 13:55 |
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>1,2ãá ÌÈÍÈÌÓÌ ..... â êðîíîñå ïî 5ãá ÃÁ ñåìïëîâ äëÿ êàæäîãî ðîÿëÿ , ÷àñòîòà 48 è áàñîâûå ñåìïëû ïî 30ñåê âî èñòèíó áàëàëàéêå çà 90ê ìîæíî ïðåäïî÷åñòü ìàêáóê è êó÷ó ìèäè-êîíòðîëëåðîâ 
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:00 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>âî èñòèíó áàëàëàéêå çà 90ê ìîæíî ïðåäïî÷åñòü ìàêáóê è êó÷ó ìèäè-êîíòðîëëåðîâ ýòî ïîæàëñòà.... òîëüêî ñìûñë êðàñíîé óðåçàííîé áàëàëàéêè (çà òå æå äåíüãè) ñ ìîòîðîëëñêèìè ÷èïàìè 95ã ñîâñåì óæ íåïîíÿòåí ..... |
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Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:13 |
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>>âî èñòèíó áàëàëàéêå çà 90ê ìîæíî ïðåäïî÷åñòü ìàêáóê è êó÷ó ìèäè-êîíòðîëëåðîâ >ýòî ïîæàëñòà.... òîëüêî ñìûñë êðàñíîé óðåçàííîé áàëàëàéêè (çà òå æå äåíüãè) ñ ìîòîðîëëñêèìè ÷èïàìè 95ã ñîâñåì óæ íåïîíÿòåí .....  èñòèíà â âèíå
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:22 |
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Tashkent
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Ãóñëè, îïÿòü Âû ïðî ñåìïëû? Èëè Âàì íàïîìíèòü êðîíîâñêèé ãåðìàí ãðàíä & íîðä ñòåíâåé??? |
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Âäîõíîâåíèå ðîæäàåòñÿ òîëüêî îò òðóäà...
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:22 |
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> Ïðè ìîíòàæå îñòàâëÿëè ëèøü íåáîëüøîé êóñî÷åê, êîòîðûé ýëåêòðîííûì ñïîñîáîì êðóòèëñÿ â êîëüöå äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà èñïîëíèòåëü íå îòïóñêàë êëàâèøó. È äîëãî èäåò ôàçà decay ó çâóêà ïèàíî? Ýòî æ íå îðãàí. Ïîòîì, âû íå çàáûâàéòå, ÷òî Êëàâèà èñïîëüçóåò ïðîïðèåòàðíûé óïàêîâùèê àóäèî. Ïëþñ ê ýòîìó, íå èìååò ñìûñëà ñýìëèðîâàòü 10 ñåêóíä â âûñîêèõ ðåãèñòðàõ. Íîòû áûñòðåå çàòóõàþò. À òî, ÷òî Êëàâèà äîáèëàñü òàêîãî âåëèêîëåïíîãî çâó÷àíèÿ ïðè ñòîëü îãðàíè÷åííûõ ðàçìåðàõ äåëàåò åé òîëüêî ÷åñòü, êàê ðàçðàáîò÷èêó. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:31 |
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«Think Different»
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>ÿ ñ âàñ õóäåþ.... íîðä-øìîðä.... óæ ëó÷øå ïðîñòî äåøåâûé ôàòàð + âñòýøý÷êè .... à åùå ëó÷øå - êðîíîñ Íîðä ñöåíè÷åñêèé,èãðîâîé êîíêðåòíûé íà òðåáîâàíèÿ ñèíò. Áîëüøàÿ ñöåíà ïðèìåðîì. Êðîíîñ êîëäîâñêàÿ ìàíäóëà äëÿ îêîëîñöåíè÷åñêîé äîìààãîíèðóþùåé áðàòèè...)) Âûéäåò ñëåäóþùàÿ èìïðîâèçàöèÿ à ëÿ çàáûòûé Îàçèñ è âñå çàáóäóò î "âñ¸ â îäíîì"....à ãîðå÷ü íåïðîäàâàåìûõ,ïîòðà÷åííûõ êðîâíûõ,íåçàæèâàþùåé ðàíîé...)) Íå Êîðãè êîðîëè ñöåíû. Íîðäû! Ôàêò. |
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Ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì òåñòå àíàëîã vs öèôða îêàçàëîñü,
÷òî êà÷åñòâåííûé öèôðîâîé çâóê îò êà÷åñòâåííîãî àíàëîãîâî îòëè÷èòü ñìîãëè íå ñïåöèàëèñòû, à òîëüêî îñöèëëîãðàô..) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:38 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>Âûéäåò ñëåäóþùàÿ èìïðîâèçàöèÿ à ëÿ çàáûòûé Îàçèñ è âñå çàáóäóò î "âñ¸ â îäíîì"....à ãîðå÷ü íåïðîäàâàåìûõ,ïîòðà÷åííûõ êðîâíûõ,íåçàæèâàþùåé ðàíîé...)) ó êðîíîñà õîðîøèé çàäåë íà áóäóùåå - ññä äëÿ ñåìïëîâ õîòü 256ãèã ñ îáøèðíåéøåé ðóëåæêîé .... ñêîëüêî ó øâåäîâ òàì, 512ìåòðîâ íåðàñøèðÿåìûõ???)))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:45 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>Ïîòîì, âû íå çàáûâàéòå, ÷òî Êëàâèà èñïîëüçóåò ïðîïðèåòàðíûé óïàêîâùèê àóäèî. Ïëþñ ê ýòîìó, íå èìååò ñìûñëà ñýìëèðîâàòü 10 ñåêóíä â âûñîêèõ ðåãèñòðàõ. Íîòû áûñòðåå çàòóõàþò. >À òî, ÷òî Êëàâèà äîáèëàñü òàêîãî âåëèêîëåïíîãî çâó÷àíèÿ ïðè ñòîëü îãðàíè÷åííûõ ðàçìåðàõ äåëàåò åé òîëüêî ÷åñòü, êàê ðàçðàáîò÷èêó. ò.å. òî, ÷òî ñàêðàëüíàÿ ôàçîâàÿ øâåäñêàÿ ÷èñòîòà íèâåëèðóåòñÿ âûáîðî÷íûì ñåìïëèðîâàíèåì ÷åðåç òðè êëàâèøè (÷åòûðå ñåìïëà íà ÎÊÒÀÂÓ) íèêîãî íå ñìóùàåò))) à ÷òî ñ äóäêàìè-ðîäåñàìè-õàììîíäàìè ??? ñ ïðèñòàâêîé íåäî- ))) 
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 14:54 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>(÷åòûðå ñåìïëà íà ÎÊÒÀÂÓ) äà, íàïîìíþ, ÷òî â îêòàâå 12íîò , ìàëî ëè))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 15:59 |
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Ìîñêâà Ãèòàðà
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|Â| , ß ñìîòðþ òû òóò ïðîñòî äàâèøü âñåõ íåâåðíûõ! 
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:01 |
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Tashkent
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Ãóñëè, âîò çäåñü âñ¸ ñëûøíî, êòî åñòü êòî |
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Âäîõíîâåíèå ðîæäàåòñÿ òîëüêî îò òðóäà...
×àéêîâñêèé |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:04 |
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Tashkent
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À òîëêó òî "0" îò ãèãàáàéòíûõ ñåìïëîâ...
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Âäîõíîâåíèå ðîæäàåòñÿ òîëüêî îò òðóäà...
×àéêîâñêèé |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:05 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>|Â| , ß ñìîòðþ òû òóò ïðîñòî äàâèøü âñåõ íåâåðíûõ! íå.... ñòÎèë áû ñòýéäæ øòóêó (êðàñíàÿ öåíà çà òàêîé óñòàðåâøèé íàáîð) - ñëîâà íå ñêàçàë áû..... à çà îäèíàêîâóþ ñ êðîíîñîì ñóììó- êàê-òî íåìíîãî ñìåøíî))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:06 |
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> âûáîðî÷íûì ñåìïëèðîâàíèåì ÷åðåç òðè êëàâèøè (÷åòûðå ñåìïëà íà ÎÊÒÀÂÓ) íèêîãî íå ñìóùàåò) Ñìóùàåò êîíå÷íî æå. Ìíå êàæäûé äåíü ñëóøàòåëè çàäàþò âîïðîñ - ïî÷åìó ó ìåíÿ C î÷åíü ïîõîæà íà C# è D, ïðÿì äàæå ñëûøíî, êàê îäèíàêîâî âèáðèðóåò äåêà. Ñîáñòâåííî ýòî æå ñàìîå ãëàâíîå â ìóçûêå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:10 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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à ïðî 3õñåêóíäíûå áàñû íå çàäàþò âîïðîñ??? åñëè íåò- òî ñìåëî ìîæíî îãðàíè÷èòüñÿ ïñð413.... çà÷åì ïëàòèòü â 10ðàç áîëüøå???))) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:13 |
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à çà îäèíàêîâóþ ñ êðîíîñîì ñóììó- êàê-òî íåìíîãî ñìåøíî))) ñîãëàñåí, êðîíîñ âàùå íè÷åãî íå ñòÎèò
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Âäîõíîâåíèå ðîæäàåòñÿ òîëüêî îò òðóäà...
×àéêîâñêèé |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:16 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>ñîãëàñåí, êðîíîñ âàùå íè÷åãî íå ñòÎèò ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ îàçèñîì- øàðà..... íî øâåäñêèå êóñòàðè ñëèøêîì ïåðåãíóëè çà êðàñíóþ êðàñêó-òî .... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:16 |
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> à ÷òî ñ äóäêàìè-ðîäåñàìè-õàììîíäàìè ??? ïðî äóäêè ñîãëàøóñü. Õîòÿ òóò ñêîðåå íå áàãà, à ôè÷à. Ýòî æ ñýìïëåð. Êàêèå äóäêè çàëüåòå - òàêèå ó áóäóò. Íî êîíå÷íî íüþàíñû èãðû ïðîïàäàþò âñÿêèå. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:34 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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ãíóñàâîé öèôåðêîé ïîïàõèâàåò íîðäèê âàø
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:37 |
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Êñòàòè, ïî ïîâîäó >(÷åòûðå ñåìïëà íà ÎÊÒÀÂÓ) èíôîðìàöèÿ íåñêîëüêî óñòàðåâøàÿ, òàê êàê "The Extra Large versions are fully mapped accross the keyboard..." (http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=Sound%20 Libraries&cllibr=Nord_Piano_Library&clplib=Grand_P iano) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 16:42 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>Êñòàòè, ïî ïîâîäó >>(÷åòûðå ñåìïëà íà ÎÊÒÀÂÓ) >èíôîðìàöèÿ íåñêîëüêî óñòàðåâøàÿ, òàê êàê >"The Extra Large versions are fully mapped accross the keyboard..." (http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=Sound%20 Libraries&cllibr=Nord_Piano_Library&clplib=Grand_P iano) âðàêè ... ÷óäåñ íå áûâàåò.... â 100ìåã íå óìåñòèòü ñåìïëû íà êàæäóþ êëàâèøó .... ñì. âûøå ïðî 1,2ãá ìèíèìóìà
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 17:01 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>âðàêè ... ÷óäåñ íå áûâàåò.... â 100ìåã íå óìåñòèòü ñåìïëû íà êàæäóþ êëàâèøó .... ñì. âûøå ïðî 1,2ãá ìèíèìóìà ëèáî ñîêðàòèëè ñåìïë ñ 3ñåêóíä äî 0,5 .... áóãàãà))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 19:06 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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çàñèì îòêëàíèâàþñü .... ñïàñèáî çà âíèìàíèå .... ïîðà íà õàëòóðêó
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 20:14 |
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Ìîñêâà Kurzo-Strat
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Îñåíü, îäíàêî...... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 20:24 |
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed ded&v=pnaVRUTxb8w ãíóñàâîé öèôåðêîé ïîïàõèâàåò íîðäèê âàø Îöåíêà ÷åãî ëèáî âåñüìà ñóáúåêòèâíàÿ âåùü. Êàæäûé âèäèò è ñëûøèò ëèøü òî, ÷òî õî÷åò (èëè íå õî÷åò). È, êñòàòè, ñåé÷àñ óæå ìíîãèå ñêëîíÿþòñÿ ê òîìó, ÷òî íåò íè÷åãî áîëåå îáúåêòèâíîãî, ÷åì ñóáúåêòèâíîå À îíî ó âñåõ ðàçíîå, ïîýòîìó è ïðåäïî÷òåíèÿ ðàçíûå. È ïîýòîìó è íà÷èíàþòñÿ ñïîðû. Íèî÷åì...
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 20:36 |
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Ìîñêâà Kurzo-Strat
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Fedor_spb >Îöåíêà ÷åãî ëèáî âåñüìà ñóáúåêòèâíàÿ âåùü. Êàæäûé âèäèò è ñëûøèò ëèøü òî, ÷òî õî÷åò (èëè íå õî÷åò). È, êñòàòè, ñåé÷àñ óæå ìíîãèå ñêëîíÿþòñÿ ê òîìó, ÷òî íåò íè÷åãî áîëåå îáúåêòèâíîãî, ÷åì ñóáúåêòèâíîå À îíî ó âñåõ ðàçíîå, ïîýòîìó è ïðåäïî÷òåíèÿ ðàçíûå. È ïîýòîìó è íà÷èíàþòñÿ ñïîðû. Íèî÷åì...  Òóò ìíîãèå ïåðèîäè÷åñêè îá ýòîì ãîâîðÿò ( è ÿ òîæå) íî íåñêîëüêî "îäåðæèìûõ" èëè "ïðîïëà÷åííûõ" íå õîòÿò ýòî ñëûøàòü ïîíèìàòü è ïðî÷..... Ïðåäëàãàþ èãíîðèðîâàòü ò/ê íå ëå÷èòñÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 20:51 |
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Tashkent
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Âäîõíîâåíèå ðîæäàåòñÿ òîëüêî îò òðóäà...
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 22:12 |
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ñïîðû ïðî "êîðîëåé ñöåíû" ìíå íàïîìèíàþò ñöåíû èç ïåñî÷íèöû, êîãäà èä¸ò ñïîð î òîì êòî êîãî ïîáåäèò Áýòìýí èëè Ñïàéäåðìýí, èëè ÷òî-òî òèïà òîãî "ìîé áðàò êðó÷å, îí òâîåãî áðàòà ïîáü¸ò!". Íå çíàþ êàêîé ó êîãî ðåàëüíûé âîçðàñò, íî èíîãäà ñîçäà¸òñÿ âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî óìñòâåííî-ïñèõîëîãè÷åñêèå ðàçâèòèå ó íåêîòîðûõ îñòàíîâèëîñü ãäå-òî òàì äàëåêî... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 10.10.2013 23:00 |
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Èâàíîâî Nord Electro 4D SW61, Nord Lead 2X 
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Íàðîä, à îñîáåííî - Ãóñëè: íó ñêîëüêî ìîæíî ïåðåëèâàòü èç ïóñòîãî â ïîðîæíåå? Åé Áîãó, êàæäàÿ òðåòüÿ òåìà âûëèâàåòñÿ â áåñïðåäìåòíûé ñðà÷! Èçâèíèòå çà âûðàæåíèå. Ìíåíèå áîëüøèíñòâà äàâíî âñåì èçâåñòíî. À "íîâè÷êè", êîòîðûå, êñòàòè, âèäèìî, (íàäåþñü) ìîãóò è óìåþò èãðàòü, ñëóøàÿ ýòè ïðåïèðàíèÿ, ïîëàãàþ, íå â âîñòîðãå îò ôîðóìà. Î÷åíü êîðÿâî âûñêàçàëñÿ ... íî óæ êàê åñòü. Ìíå ãëóáîêî (ïèøåòñÿ ñëèòíî) íà äëèíó ñýìïëîâ. Åñëè èíñòðóìåíò çâó÷èò, òî âñå ðàâíî. "À åñëè ó ìåíÿ ïëîõîå íàñòðîåíèå, òî ìíå ãëóáîêî íàïëåâàòü, ãäå ó òåáÿ øëÿïà" (ñ) ß íå ìîãó àðãóìåíòèðîâàííî ðàññóæäàòü î ðàçëè÷èè íîòû "Äî" â ðàçíûõ îêòàâàõ íà ðàçíûõ èíñòðóìåíòàõ. Íî ÷òî-òî ìíå ïîäñêàçûâàåò, ÷òî ó÷àñòèâøèåñÿ ñëó÷àè èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ èíñòðóìåíòîâ öâåòà íîæåé victorinox ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûìè ìóçûêàíòàìè Ðîññèè î÷åì-òî äà ãîâîðÿò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 11.10.2013 09:18 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>ß íå ìîãó àðãóìåíòèðîâàííî ðàññóæäàòü î ðàçëè÷èè íîòû "Äî" â ðàçíûõ îêòàâàõ íà ðàçíûõ èíñòðóìåíòàõ. à ... íó òîãäà âûáèðàéòå ïî öâåòó ..... íîæåé victorinox ..... |
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ÁÛ×ÊÎÂ-LIUSI-PROFI-WAU2009 http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/1105/bf/94841287ad6c.jpg
(ñêàç ïðî òî, êàê Áû÷êîâ ðåïåðòóàð ÷óæîé ñåáå ïðèïèñûâàë) http://forums.vkmonline.com/showthread.php?t=31098&p=429902&viewfull=1#post42990...ll=1#post429902oindex> |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 11.10.2013 10:29 |
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Îìñê Nord Stage 2 HA76, MacBook Pro.
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Öâåò öâåòîì, à âîò íàïðèìåð Äæîáñ âñåãäà áîëüøîå âíèìàíèå óäåëÿë ìåëî÷àì è äèçàéíó, ïîýòîìó ïðîäóêòû ýïë îòëè÷àþòñÿ îò âñåõ îñòàëüíûõ íà ðûíêå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ìíîãî ñìåæíûõ âîïðîñîâ îò íîâè÷êà: Nord Stage 2, Yamaha CLP-440, Korg Kronos, Pro Tools, Logic
Âðåìÿ: 11.10.2013 10:37 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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>áîëüøîå âíèìàíèå óäåëÿë ìåëî÷àì ò.å. ñåìïë ìîæíî, íå âäàâàÿñü â äåòàëè - ðàñòÿíóòü íà 3êëàâèøè ïî 3 ñåê , ãëàâíîå äèçàéí è öâåò )) áóãàãà .... íà îïðåäåëåííóþ ïóáëèêó ýòî äåéñòâóåò ))) |
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ÁÛ×ÊÎÂ-LIUSI-PROFI-WAU2009 http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/1105/bf/94841287ad6c.jpg
(ñêàç ïðî òî, êàê Áû÷êîâ ðåïåðòóàð ÷óæîé ñåáå ïðèïèñûâàë) http://forums.vkmonline.com/showthread.php?t=31098&p=429902&viewfull=1#post42990...ll=1#post429902oindex> |
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