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Òåìà: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
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Ãîñïîäà, êòî ðàáîòàë ñ ýòèìè àïïàðàòàìè, êàêîé ëó÷øå âçÿòü? Íóæíû çâóêè "êëàññè÷åñêèå" Àïïàðàòû âåñÿò îäèíàêîâî - 7êã, òî ÷òî íóæíî, ÷òî áû òàñêàòü ñ ñîáîé. Íî! Ó Êîðãà åñòü ñåêâåíñîð, à Ðîëàíä ðàñøèðÿåòñÿ êëàññíîé êàðòî÷êîé Vintage Keys Õîòÿ, ñêâåíñîð ïî áîëüøîìó ñ÷åòó íå íàñòîëüêî âàæåí ÷òî áû ïðèãðûâàòü â çâóêå À òàê ïîäâåðíóëàñü âîçìîæíîñòü âçÿòü ýòè ñèíòû ïî 15 øòóê êàæäûé, âîò äóìàþ... |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 13:21 |
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ÑÏá
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Ðîëàíäà âîçìîæíîñòè ïîñëóøàòü íåò ê ñîæàëåíèþ, â îòëè÷èè îò Êîðæà | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 13:43 |
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Íààðèÿ Èçðàèëü Yamaha MOXF6 Roland Fantom-06, Roland Aerophone AE-30 Pro 
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Äåëî âêóñà. Ðîëàíä 30-- ýòî ïðàêòè÷åñêè òîò æå ÕÐ 50, íî áåç ñåêâåíñîðà, à òð61 ýòî îáðåçàííûé òðèòîí.  ïðèíöèïå îáà õîðîøè íà ñâîè äåíüãè è âîçìîæíîñòè. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 13:57 |
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ÑÏá
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Íå ñîâñåì âåðíî, 30ûé ýòî ïðàêòè÷åñêè 60-ûé, òîëüêî áåç ñåêâåíñîðà. Äàæå ñêîðåå 80-ûé, ïîòîìó ÷òî ó íåãî ïîëóâçâåøåííàÿ êëàâèàòóðà! Òàê ÷òî çâó÷èò îí ïîëó÷øå ïîëòèííèêà. Ïëþñ â íåãî âøèòû 3 ïëàòû ðàñøèðåíèÿ, íåïëîõîãî êà÷åñòâà êàê ãîâîðÿò. À òàê êîíå÷íî õîðîøè! Âîîáùå ñêëîíÿþñü ê Ðîëàíäó, íî ïðîäàâåö â Ãåðìàíèè, à Êîðæèê ÷åðåç ïàðó ñòàíöèé ìÿòðî... |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 14:47 |
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Çà êîðã ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî çâóêè îòëè÷íûå:) Êëàâèàòóðà ðàçâå íå ïîëóâçâåøåííàÿ íà 61? ó ìåíÿ 76 è ïîëóâçâåøåííàÿ, âðîäå áû ó íèõ îäèíàêîâàÿ êëàâà.. íà 80õ - ìîëîòî÷êîâàÿ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 14:51 |
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Ìîñêâà
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Ê ÕÐ 30 ñìàðòêàðòà íå ïîìåøàåò,ìàëî ïåðôîìàíñîâ.Êëàâà õîðîøàÿ.Êëàññè÷åñêèå çâóêè íà óðîâåíü âûøå êîðãà.Ôèëüòð íåïëîõîé.Êíîïû òîëüêî áûâàåò çàåäàþò. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 14:56 |
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À ïåðôîìàíñû íà êàðòå ìîæíî õðàíèòü? âðîäå áû ãäå-òî ÷èòàë ïîäîáíîå. ñêàæèòå, à êàêîé ìàêñèìàëíûé ïîääåðæèâàåìûé îáúåì êàðòû, 32 èëè 64ìá? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 15:14 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä. 
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juno g ó àôòàðà èìååòñÿ 1) Òîëüêî îäèí MFX íà XP-30, 3 íà juno 2) 40 ñèìâîëîâ 2-ñòðî÷íûé ÆÊ-èëè 240x96 ïèêñåëåé ãðàôè÷åñêèé LCD 3) Juno-G ìîëîæå íà 10 ëåò ïðîòèâ XP-30. Îí óíàñëåäîâàë âñå ôóíêöèè ñèíòåçà è äîáàâèëè íåñêîëüêî íîâûõ, ïëþñ íîâûå ýôôåêòû. Íå ãîâîðÿ óæå î åãî äâàæäû ïîëèôîíèè, ñåêâåíñîð è ðåêîðäåð, è ìíîãî äðóãèõ âêóñíîñòåé. òî áèøü , íàäî ñëóõàíóòü êîðæ çû õàììîíä â ðîëàõ ã8íî |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 15:28 |
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1) ýòî äà, íî â ðåàëüíîñòè ïðè çàïèñè ëó÷øå èñïîëüçîâàòü âíåøíþþ îáðàáîòêó. à åñëè ëàáàòü â ãðóïïå, òî îäíîãî ïðîöà ýôôåêòîâ õâàòèò âïîëíå 2) äèñïëåé âåùü ÷èñòî ôóíêöèîíàëüíàÿ, ïðåñåòû ïåðêëþ÷àòü è ïåðôîìàíñû. ðóëèòü çâóêè ëó÷øå íà êîìïå ÷åðåç ýäèòîð 3)Òî ÷òî èíñòðóìåíò ìîëîæå íà 10 ëåò åù¸ íå çíà÷èò ÷òî îí çâó÷èò ëó÷øå. Ýòî âàì íå ãóñëè) Ñåêâåíñîð ìíå íå íóæåí îêàçàëñÿ. Ðåêîðäåð âîò è ïîëèôîíèÿ äðóãîå äåëî... Íó è ñàìîå ãëàâíîå - çâóêîâîé äâèæîê ðîìïëåðà, ñ÷èòàåòñÿ ÷òî ó ñòàðûõ Ðîëàíäîâ îí ëó÷øå. íàäî ñëóõàíóòü êîðæ, ñîãëàñåí) |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
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ÑÏá
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À âîîáùå Juno êîíå÷íî è äðóãèå ïëþñû èìååò, îäèí step filter òîëüêî ÷åãî ñòîèò. Åù¸ áû àðïåäæèàòîð âòîðîé, âîò áûëà áû òåìà. Âìåñòî ýòîãî V-Linka. Íèêà íå ïîéìó íàêîé îí òàì íóæåí... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 15:50 |
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ðàç ñåêâåíñîð íå íóæåí , ìîæíî ñëóõàíóòü õ50- òîò æå tr , âèä ïðîôèëü.... 4 êã |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
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à ìíå îí íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ â ñâîå âðåìÿ, øèðïîòðåá. êëàâà óã... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 16:06 |
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â îáùåì, ïîåäó ïîñëóøàþ TR, íî ïîõîæå âîçüìó Ðîëàíä ÕÐ30 + Yamaha AN1x. êàæèñü áóäåò òî ÷òî ìíå íàäî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 16:11 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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çàòî ïîëíîðàçìåðíàÿ , à íå çàóæåííî-óêîðî÷åííàÿ äæóíàõñêàÿ (äëèíà 13 vs 14 , øèðèíà 160 vs 165 îêòàâà) ðàç íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ , òî íåò ñìûñëà â tr -çâóêîâàÿ áàçà èäåíòè÷íà..... |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 16:39 |
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Í-ñê Keyboards 
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>Ðîëàíäà âîçìîæíîñòè ïîñëóøàòü íåò ê ñîæàëåíèþ, â îòëè÷èè îò Êîðæà Íà synthmania.com ìîæíî íàéòè äåìêè (ïðåñåòîâ) JV-2080 è êàðò ðàñøèðåíèÿ, âñòðîåííûõ â XP-30. |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 16:39 |
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XP30 óæå ñîäåðæèò âñå äàííûå ñ ïëàò Orchestral, Session, Techno è ðàñøèðÿåòñÿ åù¸ îäíîé ïëàòîé íà âûáîð. ÈÌÕÎ, çâó÷èò ëó÷øå Äæóí. Ñìàðòìåäèà òàì ñïåöèôè÷åñêàÿ, 4 Ìá/5â - íàéòè íåðåàëüíî çà ïðèåìëåìûå äåíüãè. Êëàâèàòóðà ó íåãî ÷óòü áîëåå, ÷åì íå ïîëóâçâåñ - ïðîñòî õîðîøàÿ ñèíòåçàòîðíàÿ. Çà óêàçàííóþ öåíó îáà èíñòðóìåíòà õîðîøè. Ëèêâèäíîñòü XP30 äîñòàòî÷íî âûñîêà (ó ìåíÿ äàæå åñòü èíòåðåñóþùèåñÿ íèì). |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 16:46 |
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ñïàñèáî, îäíîçíà÷î áóäó áðàòü õð-30 à âîò ïðî êàðòó ïàìÿòè ïëîõàÿ íîâîñòü, äåéñòâèòåëüíî íàéòè î÷åíü íåïðîñòî. ïî-ýòîìó ïîñòîÿííî ïðèâëåêàþò âíèìàíèå èíñòðóìåíòû ñ ñîâðåìåííûìè èíòåðôåéñàìè, êàê ó tr íàïèìåð. íó äà ëàäíî, áåç êàðòû òîæå ìîæíî æèòü! 
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
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Ëüâîâ
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Îðêåñòðû â XP-30 íà ãîëîâó êðó÷å, ÷åì â Äæóíå-à è â ÒÐ. Íî ïî âñÿêîé ìîäíîé ýëåêòðîíèêå- ñêîðåå âñå íàîáîðîò â âèäó âîçðàñòà èíñòðóìåíòà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 19:40 |
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Ïîíÿòíîå äåëî) Ïî-ýòîìó äëÿ ýëåêòðîíèêè ó ìåíÿ äðóãèå ñèíòû - Ìîäóëÿð è âñòýøêè ïîêà ÷òî. À ÕÐ-30 íóæåí äëÿ äæàçà\ôàíêà ñêîðåå | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå 
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Ó ìåíÿ áûëà 30êà - ïðåêðàñíûé èíñòðóìåíò. Íàñ÷åò êàðòî÷êè - íå çíàþ, ìíå ëè÷íî 128 þçåðñêèõ ïàò÷åé âûøå êðûøè áûëî. Åñëè ÷òî - î÷åíü íåòðóäíî ïðîäàòü, â îòëè÷èå îò òð61 |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 21:10 |
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Ìîñêâà
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Åñëè áóäåò 2 ñèíò,òî ïåðôîìàíñû(30 þçåð)íå ñòîëü æèçíåííî íåîáõîäèìû. Ìîæíî ïîäóìàòü ó Õ50 õàììîíä î÷åíü êðóò.(Ýòî ôàíàòó Êîðãîâ,ã-íó Eëåêòðîãóñëè). Êëàâà íå ïîìíþ,çàóæåíà èëè íåò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2012 21:58 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä.
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êëàâà â õ50 â îòëè÷èè îò ðîëà ïîëíîðàçìåð â õ50 òàêîé åñòü |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2012 03:03 |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
Âðåìÿ: 01.02.2012 16:36 |
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Moscow Sax-Alto,Tenor, Roland XPS-30, Roland XPS-10 
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ß áû äîáàâèë â ýòîò ñïèñîê ÿìàõó S30, è âûáèðàë áû ìåæäó XP30 è S30, à TR61 âààùå áû íå ðàññìàòðèâàë. | |
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«Äèïëîìàò-ýòî ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé ìîæåò ïîñëàòü âàñ íà #&# òàêèì îáðàçîì, ÷òî âû ñ ïðåäâêóøåíèåì áóäåòå æäàòü ïóòåøåñòâèÿ...
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
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äà â îáùåì-òî óæå íå àêòóàëüíî ïîêà. óïóñòèë ÿ äâà ëîòà íà ñèíòû, òåïåðü âîîáùå ðåøèë îñòàâèòü äæóíó, ïðîñòî âçÿòü ê íåé ëåãåíäàðíîå ðàñøèðåíèå srx-07, ïîïûòàòü ñ÷àñòüÿ ñ íèì) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Korg TR61 vs Roland XP-30
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÷¸ðò, ðîëàíä õð-30 çà 14500 óøåë íà èáýå, ñ äîñòàâêîé â ïèòåð... | |
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