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Òåìà: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 08:03 |
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Ïîïóëÿðíûå íàñòðîéêè Hammond Drawbars - êà÷àéòå ôàéë B3 Presets.xls ñ | |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:34 |
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Ïðÿìàÿ ññûëêà | |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:41 |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:49 |
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Ðåøèë äîáàâèòü ïàðó èçîáðàæåíèé è íåáîëüøîå ïîÿñíåíèå. Òàê, íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé. Íàâåðíÿêà íå âñå â êóðñå, ÷òî òàêîå Drawbar. Ïðî îðãàí Hammond B3 (Íó èëè Ñ3 è À100), íàâåðíÿêà, ìíîãèå ñëûøàëè (Äæîí Ëîðä, Äæèììè Ñìèò íà òàêèõ èãðàëè). Çâóê îðãàíà ñêëàäûâàåòñÿ èç íåñêîëüêèõ ãàðìîíèê, ãðîìêîñòü êîòîðûõ ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ ñïåöèàëüíûìè ôåéäåðàìè (ðåãèñòðàìè). Ýòè ðåãèñòðû íàçûâàþòñÿ Drawbars. Èõ âñåãî 9 íà êàæäûé ïðåñåò. 16' 1 octave below fundamental 5 1/3' a fifth above fundamental 8' fundamental 4' 1 octave above fundamental 2 2/3' 1 octave and a fifth above fundamental 2' 2 octaves above fundamental 1 3/5' 2 octaves and a major third above fundamental 1 1/3' 2 octaves and a fifth above fundamental 1' 3 octaves above fundamental Òî êàê îðãàíèñò âëàäååò óïðàâëåíèåì ýòèìè ðåãèñòðàìè â öåëîì ôîðìèðóåò çâóê è ñòèëü çâó÷àíèÿ îðãàíà.  íåêîòîðûõ ñîâðåìåííûõ èíñòðóìåíòàõ (Kurzweil PC2, PC3, SP4. Clavia Nord Electro, Stage) âñòðîåíà öèôðîâàÿ ìîäåëü îðãàíà Hammond B3. Åñòü è ñïåöèàëèçèðîâàííûå êëîíû îò Hammond, Clavia, Korg, Viscount, Oberheim, Voce. |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:56 |
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ÄÀ Â ÊÓÐÑÅ Â ÊÓÐÑÅ!!!! ÑÏÀÑÈÁÎ!!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 16:57 |
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ðàä, ÷òî ïðèãîäèëîñü 
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2011 19:50 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå 
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Äî êó÷è: ó êîëüöîâà íà ñàéòå åãî åñòü òîæå ôàéë ñ êó÷åé íàñòðîåê äëÿ õàììîíäà koltsov.biz åñëè íå îøèáàþñü. |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 10:35 |
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Êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ïîäåëèòüñÿ ïðåäñòàâëåííûì âûøå ôàéëîì, à òî ó ìåíÿ ïî÷åìó-òî îí ïóñòûì îòêðûâàåòñÿ | |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 11:18 |
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ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð 
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>Çâóê îðãàíà ñêëàäûâàåòñÿ èç íåñêîëüêèõ ãàðìîíèê, ãðîìêîñòü êîòîðûõ ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ ñïåöèàëüíûìè ôåéäåðàìè (ðåãèñòðàìè). Ýòè ðåãèñòðû íàçûâàþòñÿ Drawbars. Èõ âñåãî 9 íà êàæäûé ïðåñåò. ó÷åíüå - ñâåò, à íåó÷åíüå - êóëüòïðîñâåò  >Êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ïîäåëèòüñÿ ïðåäñòàâëåííûì âûøå ôàéëîì, à òî ó ìåíÿ ïî÷åìó-òî îí ïóñòûì îòêðûâàåòñÿ grv, â ÷åì îòêðûâàåøü? â õàììîíäå? 
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" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:11 |
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ÿ áû íå óïèðàëñÿ îñîáî â ýòè øàáëîííûå ïðåñåòû. è âîò ïî÷åìó 1) åñëè ãîâîðèòü îá clonewheel îðãàíàõ òî äàæå íà îäèíàêîâîì ïðåñåòå îíè áóäóò ïî ðàçíîìó çâó÷àòü. è ñ ðàçíîé àêóñòèêîé ïî ðàçíîìó. è íàâåðíîå äàâà îäèíàêîâûõ õàììîíäà áóäóò çâó÷àòü ïî ðàçíîìó â ñèëó ìèëëèîíà ïðè÷èí (ðàññòðîåííûå ãåíåðàòîðû è òä) 2) â ìèêñå ñ ãðóïïîé äàííûé ïðåñåò ìîæåò "íå çâó÷àòü" èç-çà òîãî ÷òî òîí îðãàíà çàáèâàåòñÿ ãèòàðîé è áàñîì, è ïðèõîäèòñÿ ïîäíèìàòü íèæíèå ãàðìîíèêè, è ýòî áóäåò óæå ñîâñåì äðóãîé ïðåñåò. ó ìåíÿ äâå êëàâèøè ñ äðîóáàðàìè, è äëÿ îäíîé è òîé æå ïåñíè ÿ èñïîëüçóþ òàì è ñÿì ðàçíûå íàñòðîéêè |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:25 |
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åùå èíòåðåñíàÿ îñîáåííîñòü - çà ñ÷åò òîãî ÷òî íåêîòîðûå äðîóáàðû ãåíåðèðóþò òîí îòëè÷àþùèéñÿ íà îêòàâó (16', 8' , 4'), ìîæíî ïîäîáðàòü êîìáèíàöèè ÿâëÿþùèåñÿ òðàíñïîíèðîâàííûìè íà îêòàâó îòíîñèòåëüíî äðóã äðóãà , ñ (ïî÷òè) òåì æå ñàìûì òåìáðîì |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:31 |
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À ñ ïåðåãðóæåííîé ãèòàðîé, êàêèå ñðåäíèå íàñòðîéêè ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíåé? ×òîá òîí íå "çàáèâàëñÿ" ãèòàðîé | |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 12:45 |
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ÿ îáû÷íî íà÷èíàþ ñ ÷åãî-òî âðîäå 6886 èëè 8886 à ïîòîì åñëè îðãàí ïëîõî ñëûøåí â ìèêñå ñ ãèòàðîé, òî ïîäíèìàþ íèæíèå ãàðìîíèêè è ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî-íèòü âðîäå 88851430. íàèçóñòü íå çàïîìèíàþ, ïîäêðó÷èâàþ íà ñëóõ âî âðåìÿ ñàóíä÷åêà. íåêîòîðûå îðãàíèñòû ïîñòîÿííî äåëàþò ýòî âî âðåìÿ èãðû, òàêîé ÷èñòî õàììîíäîâñêèé èñïîëíèòåëüñêèé ïðèåì êàê êðåùåíäî ïóòåì îäíîâðåìåííîãî âûâîäà íåñêîëüêèõ äðîóáàðîâ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 13:14 |
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>ÿ áû íå óïèðàëñÿ îñîáî â ýòè øàáëîííûå ïðåñåòû. è âîò ïî÷åìó Ïðèñîåäèíÿþñü.  íîòàõ äëÿ Õàììîíä îðãàíà ÷àñòî óêàçûâàþò ðåãèñòðîâêó, ðåäêî îíà áûâàåò ïîëåçíîé. Ìåíÿþ ñàì ïî âêóñó. Çàâèñèò îò àêóñòèêè ïîìåùåíèÿ, îáùåé ãðîìêîñòè(î÷åíü ñèëüíî), íàñòðîåíèÿ. Ïåäàëü ýêñïðåññèè Õàììîíäà èìååò òîíêîìïåíñèðîâàííóþ õàðàêòåðèñòèêó, ïðè óìåíüøåíèè ãðîìêîñòè áàñû ïî÷òè íå ìåíÿþòñÿ, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî èçìåíÿåòñÿ ñîîòíîøåíèå ãàðìîíèê. Íà ïðåäóñèëèòåëå ÀÎ-28 åñòü ïîòåíöèîìåòð ðåãóëèðîâêè òîíà, óáèðàåò Â×. Êðîìå òîãî çâóê îðãàíà ñèëüíî çàâèñèò îò åãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ è ãîäà âûïóñêà. Íó è íàêîíåö âñå Ëåñëè çâó÷àò ïî-ðàçíîìó, äàæå îäíîé ìîäåëè. |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 13:15 |
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Âëàä, ñïàñèáî! Îïðîáóé ìåòîä íà ðåïå. Çëîé õðþø, îòêðûâàþ îïåíîôèñîì, à ó âàñ â ýêñåëå âñå íîðì? |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 16:06 |
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îòêðûâàþ â ýêñåëå, ôàéë ïóñòîé | |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 09.08.2013 18:12 |
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ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð
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>Çëîé õðþø, îòêðûâàþ îïåíîôèñîì, à ó âàñ â ýêñåëå âñå íîðì? grv, ó òåáÿ ýêñåëü çâó÷èò áåç ëåñëè?  ÿ íå êî÷àë  ÿ äóìàë íàäî â Â3 îòêðûâàòü Íàòèâå Èíñòðóìåíòñ >ÿ îáû÷íî íà÷èíàþ ñ ÷åãî-òî âðîäå 6886 èëè 8886 3 êðàéíèå ñëàéäåðà äî êîíöà, îñòàëüíîå - ïî âêóñó  ãëàâíîå - ïåðêàøí è ëåñëè + äèñòîðøí
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" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2013 14:28 |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 10.08.2013 20:52 |
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ïîëüçóéòåñü íà çäîðîâüå  
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 00:44 |
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Ìîñêâà Kurzo-Strat 
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petroff140 >http://www.norduserforum.com/download/file.php?id =3578 Ñïàñèáî! à òî ó ìåíÿ ÷òî -òî òîæå ôàéë íå îòðûâàëñÿ ïîñëå ñêà÷èâàíèÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 10:03 |
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Äåòñêèé ñàä! ×åãî ïðîùå òî, ñêà÷àòü äà ïîñòàâèòü NI B4, òàì ñîòíè ïðåñåòîâ è ñðàçó ìîæíî ïîñëóøàòü êàê çâó÷èò. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 11:25 |
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ãîðîä îðóæåéíèêîâ õðþêàþùèé ìîíñòð
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>>http://www.norduserforum.com/download/file.php?i d =3578 >Ñïàñèáî! >à òî ó ìåíÿ ÷òî -òî òîæå ôàéë íå îòðûâàëñÿ ïîñëå ñêà÷èâàíèÿ. ó ìåíÿ îòêðûëñÿ ìàêîâñêèì îôèñîì. Íî ñìûñëà â ýòîé áóìàãå ìàëî.
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" Ïàðàíîèê - ýòî òîò, êòî íåìíîãî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã, à ïñèõ - ýòî òîò, êòî òîëüêî ÷òî îêîí÷àòåëüíî âî âñåì ðàçîáðàëñÿ." (ñ) Óèëüÿì Áåððîóç
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 15:01 |
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Ìîñêâà Kurzo-Strat
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Fanatic >Äåòñêèé ñàä! ×åãî ïðîùå òî, ñêà÷àòü äà ïîñòàâèòü NI B4, òàì ñîòíè ïðåñåòîâ è ñðàçó ìîæíî ïîñëóøàòü êàê çâó÷èò. Ýòî ó ìåíÿ óæå 10 ëåò êàê åñòü è òîæå èñïîëüçóþ . Òà ÷òî â ìîåì ñëó÷àå ýòî íå "äåñòêîé ñàä", à "ñòàð÷åcêèé ìàðàçì" Èñïîëüçîâàòü êîíå÷íî íàäî ñîáñòâåííûå íàñòðîéêè, â çàâèñèìîñòèò îò çâó÷àíèÿ êîëëåêòèâà è äð. îñîáåííîñòåé. Íî ïî÷åìó ïðè ýòîì íåëüçÿ ïîñìîòðåòü ÷óæèå ..... äëÿ ìåíÿ çàãàäêà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 17:45 |
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Ìîæíî íà÷àòü ñ ìàòåðèàëîâ ïðåäñòàâëåííûõ íà ñàéòå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ. Ìàíóàë äëÿ Hammond New B3 è Hammond organ course ñîäåðæàò ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ðåãèñòðîâêå Õàììîíä îðãàíà. Êîíå÷íî ýòî ðåïðèíò ðóêîâîäñòâà ñåðåäèíû ïðîøëîãî âåêà, íî äëÿ îáùåãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ ïîëåçíî. |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 11.08.2013 20:40 |
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>Ìîæíî íà÷àòü ñ ìàòåðèàëîâ ïðåäñòàâëåííûõ íà ñàéòå ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ. >http://hammondorganco.com/support/downloads/ >Ìàíóàë äëÿ Hammond New B3 è Hammond organ course ñîäåðæàò ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ðåãèñòðîâêå Õàììîíä îðãàíà. Êîíå÷íî ýòî ðåïðèíò ðóêîâîäñòâà ñåðåäèíû ïðîøëîãî âåêà, íî äëÿ îáùåãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ ïîëåçíî. Ñïàñèáî ! Ñêà÷àë èçó÷àþ. Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, ïî÷åìó-òî ðàíüøå íå ïîëüçîâàëñÿ ñèì ïåðâîèñòî÷íèêîì.
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 20.08.2013 11:15 |
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Ïðîñòî òàê, ìîæåò êòî íå âèäåë: | |
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Òåìà: Re: Hammond Drawbars settings
Âðåìÿ: 20.08.2013 17:21 |
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Èðêóòñê Hammond B3 
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>Ïðîñòî òàê, ìîæåò êòî íå âèäåë: ,........ïîòîìó îí è ñòîèò 10 000 $..........ñòîëüêî çàòðàò è ðàá. ñèëû.......... .......êÀíåØíÀ çàâîä òàêîé íÎí÷å íå ïîñòðîèòü.......íî íííàäà íà 3D ïðèíòåðå ïîïðîáîâàòü.......à âäðóã ïîëó÷èöî.....
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È ÷òî ýòî òàêîå "èìïðîâèçàöèÿ"? È êòî åå ïðèäóìàë? Íåìöû íàâåðíîå! Âå÷íî îíè ÷òî-íèáóäü ïðèäóìàþò, à íàì, ðóññêèì, ïîòîì îòäóâàéñÿ.
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