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Òåìà: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 14:25 |
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Êàçàíü ôîðòåïèàíî/êëàâèø...  
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Íå ìîãó íàéòè ïîäõîäÿùóþ ìîäåëü êëàâèø. Èãðàþ äæàç, ñîóë, ðîêíðîëë â ãðóïïå. Íóæíû êëàâèøè ñî ÂÇÂÅØÅÍÍÎÉ ÊËÀÂÈÀÒÓÐÎÉ, ïðèìåðíî 73-76 êëàâèø,èáî ìîé Roland exr-5 ñ 61 êëàâèøåé è ïëàñòèêîâîé êëàâèàòóðîé óæå äàâíî íå ñïðàâëÿåòñÿ((( Òàêæå îáÿçàòåëüíû õîðîøèå çâóêè ðîÿëÿ è ýëåêòðîïèàíî, íåìíîãî ñêðèïîê è áàñà, íàáîð ãðàìîòíûõ óäàðíûõ ïðèâåòñòâóåòñÿ(íå îáÿçàòåëüíî-â îñíîâíîì, âûñòóïàþ â æèâóþ ñ ðèòì ñåêöèåé) Ïðè ýòîì âåñ æåëàòåëåí äî 15êã, èáî íîñèòü äåâóøêå òÿæåëîâàòî. Ðàññìàòðèâàþ ìîäåëü áåç äèíàìèêîâ, ìîæåò, îò ýòîãî âåñ áóäåò ëåã÷å. È åù¸ âîïðîñ: áîëüøàÿ ëè ðàçíèöà ìåæäó âçâåøåííîé è ïîëóâçâåøåííîé êëàâèàòóðîé? Õîòåëîñü áû, ÷òîáû èãðàòü áûëî ïðèÿòíî, ÷òîáû ÷óâñòâîâàëàñü îòäà÷à ïðè ïðèêîñíîâåíèè. Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî, íàäåþñü íå óòîìèëà ñïèñêîì òðåáîâàíèé 
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 14:37 |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 15:00 |
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Ìèíóñèíñê êëàâèøè
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Kurzweil PC-X(2\\3íà âûáîð) Yamaha SX7\\8 |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 15:16 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå 
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>Ïðè ýòîì âåñ æåëàòåëåí äî 15êã Ïëîõî ñî÷åòàåòñÿ ñî ÂÇÂÅØÅÍÍÎÉ ÊËÀÂÈÀÒÓÐÎÉ. >È åù¸ âîïðîñ: áîëüøàÿ ëè ðàçíèöà ìåæäó âçâåøåííîé è ïîëóâçâåøåííîé êëàâèàòóðîé? Ìèëü¸í ðàç óæå îáñóæäàëîñü. È âîîáùå-ñõîäèòå â ìàãàçèí äà ïîèãðàéòå è íà òîì è íà äðóãîì. Îùóùåíèÿ îò èãðû íà êëàâèàòóðå ñëîâàìè îïèñàòü äîâîëüíî ïðîáëåìàòè÷íî (åñëè âîîáùå âîçìîæíî). |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 15:35 |
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Êàçàíü ôîðòåïèàíî/êëàâèø...
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Áþäæåò-äî 45 ò.ð. | |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 18:13 |
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Íîâîñèáèðñê
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Ñèíòîâ ñ 73/76 êëàâèøàìè è âçâåøåííîé êëàâèàòóðîé, åñëè ÿ åñòü, òî î÷åíü íåìíîãî. Íà ïîëóâçâåøåííîé (åñëè îíà êà÷åñòâåííàÿ) èãðàòü î÷åíü ïðèÿòíî, íà ìîé ëè÷íûé âêóñ, äàæå ïðèÿòíåå, ÷åì íà âçâåøåííîé, åñëè ïðèâûê èãðàòü íà ô-íî/ðîÿëå. Ê òîìó, ÷òî íàçâàë Ñêîðûé Ìèíóñèíñê ìîæíî äîáàâèòü Kurzweil K2500/K2600. | |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 18:20 |
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Èç kurzweil ñêîðåå SP-ñåðèÿ ìîæåò ïîäîéòè. PC è òåì áîëåå K, âîçìîæíî, áóäóò ñëèøêîì íàâîðî÷åííûå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 19:10 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
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>PC è òåì áîëåå K, âîçìîæíî, áóäóò ñëèøêîì íàâîðî÷åííûå. È äîðîãèå.  45ê íå óëîæèòüñÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 18.09.2010 23:16 |
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Êàçàíü ôîðòåïèàíî/êëàâèø...
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Ñïàñèáî âñåì îãðîìíîå!!!  Ïî âàøèì ñîâåòàì íàøëà Kurzweil sp 76 - âñ¸ â íèõ ïðèâëåêàåò-è öåíà, è âåñ, òîëüêî âîò ñëèøêîì ë¸ãêèå äëÿ ïîëóâçâåøåííîé, à ýòî íàñòîðàæèâàåò, è áàñà òàì ñ óäàðíûìè íåò(( (õîòÿ íå ðåøèëà, íóæíû ëè îíè ìíå) Åù¸ íàøëà Kurzweil pc 2- îíè ïîñåðü¸çíåå, ïîäîðîæå, è ïîñîëèäíåå. È òÿæåëåå. Âîò òåïåðü âîïðîñ, ÷òî âûáðàòü)) |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 00:15 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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Roland RD-300 åùå ãëÿíüòå. | |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 00:54 |
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Òóò ïðèäåòñÿ âûáèðàòü - íåáîëüøîé âåñ èëè âçâåøåííàÿ êëàâèàòóðà. Åñòü, íàïðèìåð kurzweil sp2x - âçâåøåííàÿ êëàâèàòóðà, íî âåñèò 22êã è âñåãî 64 ïðîãðàììû (íî ìîæåò áûòü âàì è õâàòèò âïîëíå). Åñòü kurzweil sp3x - òóò óæå 512 ïðîãðàìì, òî÷íî õâàòèò, íî âñå òå æå 22êã è åëå-åëå âïèñûâàåòñÿ â áþäæåò. Íó è â íèõ íå ïî 76, à ïî 88 êëàâèø. Ïðîùå íàéòè 76 ñ ïîëóâçâåøåííîé êëàâèàòóðîé. Ìîæåòå ïîïðîáîâàòü ïîèãðàòü â êàêîì-íèáóäü ìàãàçèíå è ðåøèòü äëÿ ñåáÿ ïðèÿòíî ëè íà íèõ èãðàòü. Åñòü åùå íà êðàéíèé ñëó÷àé âàðèàíòû ñ ìèäè-êëàâèàòóðîé è çâóêîâûì ìîäóëåì. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 01:55 |
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Budapest (Hungary) ÐÑ3, K-Station, Squier Standard strat è ò.ä. 
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Ñíîâà ìàññîâûé ïðèñòóï êóðöåôèëèè? Òîëüêî èìåéòå ââèäó, ÷òî õâàëåíûé òðèïë-ñòðàéê ñòðàäàåò êàøåîáðàçíîé ìàëîé îêòàâîé, ïðî êóðöåâû ðîäåñû âîîáùå ìîë÷ó-âûøå ïåðâîé îêòàâû-æóòü - äèñêðåòíûé èñêóññòâåííûé çâóê, îðãÀíû äàæå ñàì ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ñòåñíÿåòñÿ ïðîäåìîíñòðèðîâàòü íà îô.ñàéòå. Nord electro 3 ïî áàçîâûì êëàâèøíûì çâóêàì(piano ep clav organ) ïî-ëó÷øå áóäåò. Åñëè âàæíåé ïîáî÷íûå (ñòðèíãè áàñû äðàìñû), ìîæåò è êóðö âàðèàíò... | |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 02:40 |
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Äà íå îáÿçàòåëüíî êóðö, êîíå÷íî, Ïðîñòî ðàç óæ ðàçãîâîð çàøåë. Õîòÿ è ìîæíî ïîäîáðàòü ïîäõîäÿùèé âàðèàíò, ïî-ìîåìó. Nord electro 3 âñå ðàâíî â áþäæåò íå óêëàäûâàåòñÿ, à ÷òî-íèáóäü äðóãîå ïîäåøåâëå ïîèñêàòü, ïîñìîòðåòü ñòîèò. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 08:46 |
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îðãÀíû äàæå ñàì ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ñòåñíÿåòñÿ ïðîäåìîíñòðèðîâàòü íà îô.ñàéòå. Ïî ìíå,òàê î÷åíü ïðèëè÷íûå îðãàíû,ëó÷øå âñÿêèõ òàì ñýìðëïëååðîâ!) |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 14:46 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
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>Ñíîâà ìàññîâûé ïðèñòóï êóðöåôèëèè? À ó âàñ êàæåòñÿ ïðèñòóï êóðöåôîáèè. Ýëåêòðî-èíñòðóìåíò íåïïëîõîé, íî îïÿòü æå ýòî ýìóëÿòîð, à íå óíèâåðñàëüíàÿ ìàøèíà. Êóðöåâñêèå ðîäåñû ñäåëàíû "÷åñòíî", òî åñòü áåç ïðèêðàñ, áëèçêî ê îðèãèíàëó, òåì êòî ïðèâûê íàïðèìåð ê ïðèëèçàííî-ñëàäêèì çâóêàì ÿìàõè ýòî êîíå÷íî íå ïî äóøå ïðèäåòñÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 17:24 |
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íåðåçèíîâñê Petrof / Roland VR-760 / Edwards STL95 / Rickenbacker 4001 repli 
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22Lemonjam , >Ïî ìíå,òàê î÷åíü ïðèëè÷íûå îðãàíû,ëó÷øå âñÿêèõ òàì ñýìðëïëååðîâ!) KB3-îðãàí â êóðöàõ ïî âàøåìó îñíîâàí íå íà âîñïðîèçâåäåíèè ñýìïëîâ? |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 18:22 |
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metro Kurzweil, Yamaha 
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>Ñíîâà ìàññîâûé ïðèñòóï êóðöåôèëèè? Òîëüêî èìåéòå ââèäó, ÷òî õâàëåíûé òðèïë-ñòðàéê ñòðàäàåò êàøåîáðàçíîé ìàëîé îêòàâîé, Ïîìîåìó íå ñîâñåì òàê. Âîò ïðèìåðíî òàêàÿ ôîðìà çâóêà òðèïë-ñòðàéê. ïîíÿòíî íàðèñîâàë?(âåðõíèé ðèñ.) .â íèçó – ÿìàõîâñêàÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 19:08 |
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>22Lemonjam , >>Ïî ìíå,òàê î÷åíü ïðèëè÷íûå îðãàíû,ëó÷øå âñÿêèõ òàì ñýìðëïëååðîâ!) > >KB3-îðãàí â êóðöàõ ïî âàøåìó îñíîâàí íå íà âîñïðîèçâåäåíèè ñýìïëîâ? Íó êàêáû òîãäà è VA ìîæíî ñìåëî îòíåñòè ê "âîñïðîèçâåäåíèþ ñýìïëîâ",è LA è ñóáòðàêòèâíûé ñèíòåç...) |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 20:25 |
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>Nord electro 3 ïî áàçîâûì êëàâèøíûì çâóêàì(piano ep clav organ) ïî-ëó÷øå áóäåò. È ïîäîðîæå. >KB3-îðãàí â êóðöàõ ïî âàøåìó îñíîâàí íå íà âîñïðîèçâåäåíèè ñýìïëîâ? Òàì åù¸ ãåíåðàòîðû çàäåéñòâîâàíû. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 20:48 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
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>KB3-îðãàí â êóðöàõ ïî âàøåìó îñíîâàí íå íà âîñïðîèçâåäåíèè ñýìïëîâ? Ïðè âêëþ÷åíèè ÊÂ3 ðåæèìà ñðàçó çàíèìàåòñÿ 40 ãîëîñîâ, íåçàâèñèìî îò êîë-âà íàæàòûõ êëàâèø. Íå î÷åíü ïîõîæå íà áàíàëüíîå âîñïðîèçâåäåíèå ñåìïëîâ. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 20:55 |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 21:54 |
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Í-ñê Keyboards 
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Ãîâîðÿ î êóðöèêàõ è, íîâåå è ëåã÷å |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 21:56 |
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Êëèìîâñê Kurzweil PC361,FenderStratPlus.
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Ñïåöèàëüíî îòêðûë ìàíóàë . Òàì ÷¸òêî íàïèñàíî - îñöèëÿòîðû . Ýòî ïðî ÊÂ3 . Ïðè ýòîì ýòîò ðåæèì íå ñîâìåñòèì ñ ÂÀÑÒ â îäíîé ïðîãðàììå . È íå ìîæåò îäíîâðåìåííî íàõîäèòñÿ â îäíîì òðåêå â ñåêâåíñîðå ïî äâóì êàíàëàì . Êîíå÷íî , ýòî íå ñýìïëû . | |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 22:22 |
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>Ïðè âêëþ÷åíèè ÊÂ3 ðåæèìà ñðàçó çàíèìàåòñÿ 40 ãîëîñîâ, íåçàâèñèìî îò êîë-âà íàæàòûõ êëàâèø. Íå î÷åíü ïîõîæå íà áàíàëüíîå âîñïðîèçâåäåíèå ñåìïëîâ. Íó, ïðî áàíàëüíîå ðå÷è è íå áûëî. Ðèñêíó ïðåäïîëîæèòü: çàïèñàíû ñýìïëû ãàðìîíèê, ïåðêóññèè, êåéêëèêà ñ ðåàëüíîãî B3. Âñ¸ çàìåøèâàåòñÿ ìåòîäîì àääèòèâíîãî ñèíòåçà, íàêëàäûâàþòñÿ îáðàáîòêè, èìèòèðóþùèå ñêàíåð õîðóñà-âèáðàòî, ýìóëü ëåñëè è ïðî÷èå ïî âêóñó. Íî íà âûõîäå âñ¸ ðàâíî íå òî, íåâêóñíî, õîòÿ âîçìîæíî ñ õîðîøèì ñïèêåð-ñèìîì èëè ðåàëüíûì ðîòàðè-ñïèêåðîì îí è ðàñêðîåòñÿ (èìõî "ïðàâèëüíûé" ëåñëè - äåëàåò áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü "òîãî çâóêà", ãäå òî íà þòóáå âèäåë ðîëèê: A whiter shade of pale èñïîëíåííàÿ íà êàêîé-òî ñòàðîé êàñå ïóùåíîé ÷åðåç 144-é Leslie - çâóê â íîëü!) |
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22Lemonjam , [offtopic] Âýýðêà íÿêà, ìíå áîëüøå êóðöåâñêîãî KB3 ïîíðàâèëàñü â ïëàíå ýìóëÿöèè õàììîíäà, ïîòîìó è âçÿë ,) [/offtopic] |
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Âðåìÿ: 19.09.2010 23:56 |
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Êàçàíü ôîðòåïèàíî/êëàâèø...
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Îëåã, Í-ê! ïî ññûëêå ïîñìîòðåëà íîâûé Êóðö 4-7-èäåàëåí! ˸ãêèé è êîìïàêòíûé, è çâóêè òàì ïðèÿòíûå, íàñêîëüêî ýòî ìîæíî ðàññëûøàòü èç äåìî, è áàñû ñ áàðàáàíàìè åñòü... Õîòåëîñü áû ïîèãðàòü íà í¸ì, âåäü ñîáñòâåííûå îùóùåíèÿ ñàìîå ãëàâíîå...Íî åñòü ëè îí â ïðîäàæå â Ðîññèè, â Ìîñêâå ñêàæåì( óæ î Êàçàíè ìîë÷ó), âåäü îí âûøåë òîëüêî-òîëüêî... | |
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Âðåìÿ: 20.09.2010 07:19 |
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Êëèìîâñê Kurzweil PC361,FenderStratPlus.
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Îí âûøåë òîëüêî íà êàðòèíêå , êàê è PC3K8 , êîòîðîãî æäóò ñ ïðîøëîãî ãîäà , íî òàê è íå äîæäàëèñü . Ïîõîæå , ÷òî ñåé÷àñ ôèðìà ïîëíîñòüþ ïåðåâåëà ïðîèçâîäñòâî â Êèòàé è ïðîöåññ ïåðååçäà íå òàê ïðîñò. Õîòÿ ìîæåò ýòî è ê ëó÷øåìó . Ìîæåò , êîãäà âñ¸ áóäåò â îäíîì ìåñòå , è êà÷åñòâî Êèòàéñêèõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ ïîäòÿíåòñÿ . Õîòÿ , ñóäÿ ïî Êèòàéñêîìó Ìàðàíö , çðÿ îíè ýòî çàòåÿëè . Íà ñåãîäíÿ ëó÷øå êîðåéöåâ íà ìàññîâîì ïðîèçâîäñòâå òîëüêî ÿïîøêè . | |
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Âðåìÿ: 20.09.2010 19:27 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå
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>Ðèñêíó ïðåäïîëîæèòü: çàïèñàíû ñýìïëû ãàðìîíèê, ïåðêóññèè, êåéêëèêà ñ ðåàëüíîãî B3. È êàê òîãäà ïðè 40 çàíèìàåìûõ ãîëîñàõ ðåàëèçóåòñÿ ïîëíàÿ ïîëèôîíèÿ íà âåñü äèàïàçîí êëàâèàòóðû? >Íî íà âûõîäå âñ¸ ðàâíî íå òî, íåâêóñíî Îïÿòü æå, êâ3 íà ê2500 è íà ðñ3-êàðäèíàëüíî ðàçíûå. Íà ïåðâîì-äåéñòâèòåëüíî êàë. |
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Òåìà: Re: èùó õîðîøèå êëàâèøè!!! Ïîìîãèòå, êòî ðàçáèðàåòñÿ!
Âðåìÿ: 21.09.2010 20:33 |
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íåðåçèíîâñê Petrof / Roland VR-760 / Edwards STL95 / Rickenbacker 4001 repli
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>È êàê òîãäà ïðè 40 çàíèìàåìûõ ãîëîñàõ ðåàëèçóåòñÿ ïîëíàÿ ïîëèôîíèÿ íà âåñü äèàïàçîí êëàâèàòóðû? "The amount of polyphony allocated in a KB3 program is determine by the number of Tone Wheels in use, governed by the "NumToneWheels" parameter (on the TONEWL page in the KB3 program editor). This parameter lets you specify the number of tone wheels used by a KB3 program (max 95) . The classic tone wheel organs used 91 tone wheels, though the lowest 12 were for the pedals only. Therefore, you may find 79 a good number of tone wheels to specify for realistic organ emulations. For every 2 tonewheels, 1 voice of polyphony is used. Therefore a 79 tonewheel program will use 40 voices: (79/2) = 39.5, which is rounded up to 40. So for "normal" multitimbral performance, this would leave you only eight voices for other programs. Beyond those "leftover" 8, dropout will occur. Of course, you can edit the programs to lower the number of tone wheels and thereby decrease the system load and increase your leftover polyphony. As you lower the number of tone wheels, you will find that the upper part of the keyboard will "wrap" back to a lower octave in exactly the same manner as found on a real B3. The lower the number of tonewheels, the sooner it wraps." à âîò è îòâåò íà ñïîðíûé âîïðîñ îò emusician.com "The upper partials are generated by sample playback, while the lower partials are DSP-generated sine, sawtooth, or square waves. Unlike purely sampled organs, KB3 does not duplicate partials when different notes share common harmonics (say, C4 and G4), which prevents beating between shared partials and more closely emulates the behavior of a real B-3." >Îïÿòü æå, êâ3 íà ê2500 è íà ðñ3-êàðäèíàëüíî ðàçíûå.  ðåàëå íå ùóïàë, ïî äåìêàì - òîò æå ïèñêëÿâûé è ïðèòîðíûé çâóê. Äëÿ ìÿãêèõ îðãàííûõ ïîäêëàäîâ ìîæåò è ïîäîéä¸ò, íî âîò "çâåðÿ" íå ÷óâñòâóåòñÿ. |
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Âðåìÿ: 21.09.2010 20:54 |
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Êëèìîâñê Kurzweil PC361,FenderStratPlus.
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À ýòî ìàíóàë ? . ß , ïðîñòèòå , â òåõíè÷åñêîì àíãëèéñêîì íå î÷åíü , íî ðóññêèé ìàíóàë PC3 ÷èòàë ( îí îôèãèòåëüíî äîñòóïåí ) . Ýòî êàêàÿ ãëàâà ? .
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Æóê-æóê , ïåðâîå - ñ îôñàéòà, âòîðîå - íàïèñàíî îòêóäà. | |
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Âðåìÿ: 21.09.2010 21:09 |
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Êëèìîâñê Kurzweil PC361,FenderStratPlus.
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Íó ïîñêîëüêó ÿ íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿë ( íó íå ãîâîðþ íà àíãëèéñêîì ), ïðîäîëæó íàñòàèâàòü íà ïðîñòîé èäåå . Íåò íèêàêîãî ñìûñëà ñýìïëèðîâàòü ïðîñòîé ñèãíàë , êîòîðûé âûäà¸ò Õàììîíä . Òåõíè÷åñêè åãî ïðîùå ñãåíåðèðîâàòü , ÷òî è äåëàåòñÿ , êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ , íà âñåõ ïîäîáíûõ àïïàðàòàõ . À äîáàâèòü êëèêè - ýòî äåëî äåñÿòîå , äëÿ õîðîøåé ýëåêòðîíèêè íå ïðîáëåìà . Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå , â ìàíóàëå èìåííî îá ýòîì è ãîâîðèòñÿ . Ïî-ðóññêè
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Âðåìÿ: 21.09.2010 22:34 |
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Æóê-æóê , ñêà÷àë îðèãèíàëüíûé àíãëèéñêèé ìàíóàë ïî PC3 - òàì íàïèñàíî òî æå ñàìîå. ×èòàéòå ñòð. 6-4 ("KB3 Program Structure"). Âåðõíèé ìàíóàë îðãàíà - ñýìïëû (Sample Roots, êàê â VAST), íèæíèé - îñöèëëÿòîðû ñ ñèíóñîèäîé íà âûõîäå. >Íåò íèêàêîãî ñìûñëà ñýìïëèðîâàòü ïðîñòîé ñèãíàë , êîòîðûé âûäà¸ò Õàììîíä. Ñäåëàíî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ìîæíî áûëî èçìåíèòü ôîðìó âîëíû, äëÿ èììèòàöèè òðàíçèñòîðíûõ îðãàíîâ, òîíãåíåðàòîðû êîòîðûõ äàþò íà âûõîäå "ïèëó". Òàêæå, äóìàþ, è äëÿ èììèòàöèè "ãðÿçíîãî" çâóêà à-ëÿ "âèäàâøèé âèäû îðãàí". ,) À åù¸ êàêîå êîëè÷åñòâî îñöèëëÿòîðîâ îäíîâðåìåííî ìîæåò îáñ÷èòûâàòü DSP êóðöà? Ìîæåò áûòü â ýòî óïèðàåòñÿ?  îðèãèíàëüíîì Õàììîíäå â ïîñòîÿííîì âðàùåíèè íàõîäèòñÿ 91 òîíîâîå êîëåñî (âîîáùå íà ñàìîì äåëå 96, +5 èñïîëüçóþòñÿ äëÿ áàëàíñèðîâêè ñèñòåìû). |
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Âðåìÿ: 22.09.2010 07:51 |
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Êëèìîâñê Kurzweil PC361,FenderStratPlus.
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Âîò ñìîòðåë è íå âèäåë . Ñåé÷àñ îáðàòèë âíèìàíèå . Äåéñòâèòåëüíî âåðõ èä¸ò ñ ñýìïëîâ . Ñïàñèáî çà ïîäñêàçêó . | |
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