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Òåìà: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
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ÑÏá Ðîÿëü 
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Ðåáÿòà, äîáðûé ÷àñ. ß êóïëþ â áóäóùåì èíñòðóìåíò, íî âûáîð î÷åíü ñëîæåí: Yamaha Motif ES6, èëè Roland Fantom X8, G8, èëè Korg m50 Ïîñîâåòóéòå ëó÷øèé âàðèàíò. Èãðàþ ñîâðåìåííûé ðîê è ïîï-ðîê, õî÷åòñÿ äîáèâàòüñÿ ñî÷íîãî çâó÷àíèÿ, èíòåðåñíûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ, êàê ó ñîâðåìåííûõ çàïàäíûõ ïîïñîâèêîâ Michael jackson, Lady GaGa, Beyonce, Mika è òàêèõ ëþäåé êàê Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, The prodigy.  èíñòðóìåíòå äîëæíà áûòü âîçìîæíîñòü ñîçäàâàòü ñâîè èíòåðåñíûå çâó÷àíèÿ - ÷òîáû ýòî áûëî íîâî. Ìàêñèìàëüíàÿ îòäà÷à îò çâóêà. È î÷åíü âàæåí êà÷åñòâåííûé çâóê Grand Piano. Áëàãîäàðþ çà âíèìàíèå. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 00:37 |
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Ìîñêâà Êëàâèøíûå
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ß á ìîòèô âçÿë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 00:41 |
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ÑÏá Ðîÿëü
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Àõ äà, ðåáÿòà, àðãóìåíòèðóéòå Ñâîè îòâåòû. Ìíå õî÷åòñÿ äåëàòü è RnB ìóçûêó áëàãîäàðÿ ýòîìó èíñòðóìåíòó, âîçìîæíî Âû ïîñîâåòóåòå ÷òî-íèáóäü íîâîå. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 02:26 |
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Ëüâîâ
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Äëÿ RnB è ïîïñû Ôàíòîìû ìíîãî, êòî èñïîëüçóþò. Äëÿ ðîê-ìóçûêè Ì50 è Ìîòèôû ïîäîéäóò. À äëÿ "Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, The prodigy" âàì áåç àíàëîãî-ìîäåëèðóåùåãî ñèíòåçàòîðà íå îáîéòèñü. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 05:17 |
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Í-ñê Keyboards 
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>Ðåáÿòà, äîáðûé ÷àñ. >ß êóïëþ â áóäóùåì èíñòðóìåíò, íî âûáîð î÷åíü ñëîæåí: >Yamaha Motif ES6, >èëè >Roland Fantom X8, G8, >èëè >Korg m50 > >Ïîñîâåòóéòå ëó÷øèé âàðèàíò. > >Èãðàþ ñîâðåìåííûé ðîê è ïîï-ðîê, õî÷åòñÿ äîáèâàòüñÿ ñî÷íîãî çâó÷àíèÿ, èíòåðåñíûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ, êàê ó ñîâðåìåííûõ çàïàäíûõ ïîïñîâèêîâ Michael jackson, Lady GaGa, Beyonce, Mika è òàêèõ ëþäåé êàê Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, The prodigy. > èíñòðóìåíòå äîëæíà áûòü âîçìîæíîñòü ñîçäàâàòü ñâîè èíòåðåñíûå çâó÷àíèÿ - ÷òîáû ýòî áûëî íîâî. >Ìàêñèìàëüíàÿ îòäà÷à îò çâóêà. Ó âàñ àêöåíò íà çâóêå, à âûáèðàåòå èç èíñòðóìåíòîâ, ó êîòîðûõ àêöåíò íà óíèâåðñàëüíîñòè. Ó Ãàãè âèäåë Ìîòèâ è ...âîò êàêîé èç Ðîëàíäîâ, íå ïîìíþ. Ó Beyonce - äâà Ôàíòîìà X è Òðèòîí. Íî ÷òî èç ýòîé êóõíè èñïîëüçîâàëîñü â ñòóäèéíîé çàïèñè, íåèçâåñòíî. >È î÷åíü âàæåí êà÷åñòâåííûé çâóê Grand Piano. Ñêîðåå âñåãî íå Êîðã. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 05:33 |
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Ïðèìîðñêèé êðàé êëàâåøû 
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Åñëè â Ìîòèô âîòêíóòü ïëàòó àíàëîãîâîãî ìîäåëèðîâàíèÿ DX7, òî, ìîæåò, âîò îí, âûõîä? | |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 08:56 |
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Âëàäèâîñòîê ÒÝÑÝ 10.XS MOTIF.ÐÑ- 88.Ê2000R fully loaded. 
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DX-7-ýòî àíàëîãîâîå ìîäåëèðîâàíèå????????????????????????????????? | |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 09:12 |
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>Ðåáÿòà, äîáðûé ÷àñ. >ß êóïëþ â áóäóùåì èíñòðóìåíò, íî âûáîð î÷åíü ñëîæåí: >Yamaha Motif ES6, >èëè >Roland Fantom X8, G8, >èëè >Korg m50 > >Ïîñîâåòóéòå ëó÷øèé âàðèàíò. > >Èãðàþ ñîâðåìåííûé ðîê è ïîï-ðîê, õî÷åòñÿ äîáèâàòüñÿ ñî÷íîãî çâó÷àíèÿ, èíòåðåñíûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ, êàê ó ñîâðåìåííûõ çàïàäíûõ ïîïñîâèêîâ Michael jackson, Lady GaGa, Beyonce, Mika è òàêèõ ëþäåé êàê Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, The prodigy. > èíñòðóìåíòå äîëæíà áûòü âîçìîæíîñòü ñîçäàâàòü ñâîè èíòåðåñíûå çâó÷àíèÿ - ÷òîáû ýòî áûëî íîâî. >Ìàêñèìàëüíàÿ îòäà÷à îò çâóêà. >È î÷åíü âàæåí êà÷åñòâåííûé çâóê Grand Piano. >Áëàãîäàðþ çà âíèìàíèå. Michael Bearden,êëàâèøíèê Michael Jackson-à,äëÿ ïîñëåäíåãî íåñîñòîÿâø¸ãîñÿ òóðà â êà÷åñòâå îñíîâíûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ èñïîëüçîâàë KORG M-3 è Yamaha Motif XS...íå íó åù¸ áûë NeKo LX5...) Íà ìîé âçãëÿä äëÿ R&B ëó÷øå âñåãî ïîäîéä¸ò Motif!Íî,îïÿòü æå òàêè,íà ìîé âêóñ - îí èìååò ñëèøêîì ïîïñîâîå çâó÷àíèå,è â îïðåäåë¸ííûõ ñëó÷àÿõ ýòî ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ êàê ïëþñîì,òàê è ìèíóñîì...) Roland,äëÿ ìåíÿ - îáëàäàåò ëó÷øèì çâóêîì ôîðòåïüÿíî,è ýëåêòðîíèêà ó íåãî ïðèëè÷íàÿ! Íî âàì íóæíî õîðîøåíüêî ïîñëóøàòü âñå ýòè èíñòðóìåíòû!!! Ïîòîìó ÷òî âêóñîâûå ïðèñòðàñòèÿ ó âàñ è ó ôîðóì÷àí,îòâå÷àþùèõ íà âàø âîïðîñ,ìîãóò îêàçàòüñÿ ðàçíûìè!) Óäà÷è! |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 10:32 |
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êëàâèøíûå äîôèãà âñÿêèõ 
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âîòêíóòü ïëàòó àíàëîãîâîãî ìîäåëèðîâàíèÿ DX7 ×àñòîòíîé ìîäóëÿöèè (FM-Frequency Modulation) |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 10:35 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñèíòû, âîêàë, ãèòàðà, çâóêîðåæèññóðà 
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Ìîòèô ÈÌÕÎ ñàìûé óíèâåðñàëüíûé èç ïåðå÷èñëåííîãî. | |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 10:57 |
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>DX-7-ýòî àíàëîãîâîå ìîäåëèðîâàíèå????????????????? Ïî ñóòè äà. FM-ñèíòåç, âïîëíå ìîæíî îòíåñòè ê àíàëîãîâûì òèïàì ñèíòåçà. Íó óæ íå öèôðà òî÷íî.  Ýòî âåäü âçàèìîìîäóëÿöèÿ òåõ æå àíàëîãîâûõ ãåíåðàòîðîâ.Ñóáòðàêòèâíûé, àääèòèâíûé, FM-ñèíòåç, âñå ýòî ðàçíîâèäíîñòè àíàëîãîâîãî ñèíòåçà. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 11:12 |
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>>DX-7-ýòî àíàëîãîâîå ìîäåëèðîâàíèå????????????????? > >Ïî ñóòè äà. FM-ñèíòåç, âïîëíå ìîæíî îòíåñòè ê àíàëîãîâûì òèïàì ñèíòåçà. Íó óæ íå öèôðà òî÷íî. È òóò ìíå ñòàëî èíòåðåñíî. (Íå, ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ïîäðàçóìåâàëàñü ïëàòà AN.) À ñòàëî èíòåðåñíî, ÷òî îñòàíåòñÿ îò FM áåç öèôðû. À òî òóò íà ðóêâíå îäèí ïåðåö îáúÿâèë, ÷òî àáñóðä ñ ëîãèêîé íå ñîîòíîñèòñÿ (è âîò ïîõåðó åìó, ÷òî âîñïðèÿòèå àáñóðäà... äà ïø¸ë...) |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 16:42 |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 17:59 |
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
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Êì... Äà, ó DX-7 äåéñòâèòåëüíî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ öèôðîâàÿ íà÷èíêà. Ñðàáîòàë ñòåðåîòèï Íî âñå æå. Åñëè ìû áåðåì îäèí àíàëîãîâûé ãåíåðàòîð ïîäêëþ÷àåì åãî òàêèì îáðàçîì ÷òî áû îí óïðàâëÿë ÷àñòîòîé äðóãîãî àíàëîãîâîãî ãåíåðàòîðà. Ðàçâå ýòî íå áóäåò ïî ñóòè FM-îïåðàòîð? È ðàçâå òóò íå îáîéòèñü áåç öèôðû? |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 18:11 |
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óâ. Weld, ó ìåíÿ â "îïåðàòèâêå" ñåé÷àñ äàííûõ ïî îáñóæäàåìîìó ïðåäìåòó íåäîñòàòî÷íî ) |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 18:40 |
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PC3X, G2 Engine, Ti2, TR-Rack, JD-990
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>Åñëè ìû áåðåì îäèí àíàëîãîâûé ãåíåðàòîð ïîäêëþ÷àåì åãî òàêèì îáðàçîì ÷òî áû îí óïðàâëÿë ÷àñòîòîé äðóãîãî àíàëîãîâîãî ãåíåðàòîðà. Ðàçâå ýòî íå áóäåò ïî ñóòè FM-îïåðàòîð? È ðàçâå òóò íå îáîéòèñü áåç öèôðû? Äà, ìîæíî, äà, áóäåò FM-îïåðàòîð. Ïðîñòî íà ñàìîì äåëå íåò íèêàêèõ "àíàëîãîâûõ" è "öèôðîâûõ" òèïîâ ñèíòåçà. Åñòü "ñóáñòðàêòèâíûé", "FM", "âåéâòåéáë" è ò.ï. À öèôðà/àíàëîã - ýòî ïðîñòî ïëàòôîðìà, íà êîòîðîé êîíêðåòíûé âèä ñèíòåçà ðåàëèçóåòñÿ. Ìîæíî ñäåëàòü ñóáñòðàêòèâíûé ñèíò â àíàëîãå, à ìîæíî â öèôðå; ìîæíî FM ñäåëàòü â àíàëîãå, à ìîæíî â öèôðå è ò.ä. (Êñòàòè, ó DX7 íà ñàìîì äåëå ìîäóëèðóåòñÿ ôàçà, à íå ÷àñòîòà) |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 21:12 |
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>(Êñòàòè, ó DX7 íà ñàìîì äåëå ìîäóëèðóåòñÿ ôàçà, à íå ÷àñòîòà) Îòêóäà òàêàÿ èíôà? Âîîáùå òî DX7 ñ÷èòàåòñÿ êëàññè÷åñêèì ñëó÷àåì FM (Frequency Modulation) |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 21:14 |
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>Ïðîñòî íà ñàìîì äåëå íåò íèêàêèõ "àíàëîãîâûõ" è "öèôðîâûõ" òèïîâ ñèíòåçà. Åñòü "ñóáñòðàêòèâíûé", "FM", "âåéâòåéáë" è ò.ï. Âîò ñ ýòèì ïîæàëóé ñòÎèò ñîãëàñèòüñÿ. Òàê îíî âèäèìî è åñòü. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 03:07 |
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>>(Êñòàòè, ó DX7 íà ñàìîì äåëå ìîäóëèðóåòñÿ ôàçà, à íå ÷àñòîòà) Ôàçà ìîäóëèðóåòñÿ â Casio VZ-1... |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 11:25 |
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>Îòêóäà òàêàÿ èíôà? Âîîáùå òî DX7 ñ÷èòàåòñÿ êëàññè÷åñêèì ñëó÷àåì FM (Frequency Modulation) Äà âîò, íàïðèìåð, ïàòåíò ÿìàõîâñêèé íà ñèíòåç, èñïîëüçóþùèéñÿ â DX7: Êàê âèäíî èç ôîðìóëû e = Asin [.omega..sub.c t + I(t) sin .omega..sub.m t], ìîäóëèðóåòñÿ èìåííî ôàçà, à ÷àñòîòà íåñóùåãî îïåðàòîðà (.omega..sub.c) îñòà¸òñÿ êîíñòàíòîé. Êîíå÷íî, ìãíîâåííàÿ ÷àñòîòà ïîëó÷àþùåãîñÿ ñèãíàëà áóäåò ìåíÿòüñÿ (ìîäóëèðîâàòüñÿ), ïîñêîëüêó îíà ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðîèçâîäíîé îò ôàçû ïî âðåìåíè, íî òåì íå ìåíåå, ðåçóëüòàò áóäåò íå ñîâñåì òàêèì, êàê ïðè íåïîñðåäñòâåííîé ìîäóëÿöèè ÷àñòîòû îïåðàòîðà òåì æå ñàìûì ìîäóëÿòîðîì. >Ôàçà ìîäóëèðóåòñÿ â Casio VZ-1... Íó äà, â Êàñèî òîæå. |
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Òåìà: Re: ïîìîãèòå âûáðàòü ãåíèàëüíûé èíñòðóìåíò èç: Yamaha Motif ES6, Roland Fantom G6, X6, Korg m50-61
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