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Òåìà: îöåíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ôèíñêèé ýëåêòðîîðãàí íà÷àëà ñåìèäåñÿòûõ, àíàëîã õàììîíäà
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íàçûâàåòñÿ ìîäåëü wlm 1, çâóê ìàêñèìàëüíî ïðèáëèæåí ê õàììîíäó. ïîäðîáíåå î ôèðìå êàê çâó÷èò åãî ñòàðøèé òîâàðèù ìîæíî ïîñëóøàòü çäåñü.. à vlm 1 âûãëÿäèò ïðèìåðíî òàê, òîëüêî ñîñòîÿíèå ãîðàçäî ëó÷øå íà ôîòî vlm 4, âíåøíå îíè ìàëî îòëè÷àþòñÿ. çà ñêîëüêî ðåàëüíî òàêîé ïðîäàòü? íå ïåðåâåëèñü åùå ìàíçàðåêè íà çåìëå ðóññêîé?) |
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Òåìà: Re: îöåíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ôèíñêèé ýëåêòðîîðãàí íà÷àëà ñåìèäåñÿòûõ, àíàëîã õàììîíäà
Âðåìÿ: 23.11.2009 12:24 |
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Êîãäà òðàíçèñòîðíûé îðãàí ïîçèöèîíèðóåòñÿ êàê Hammond, âîçíèêàåò âîïðîñ - â ÷åì æå îí ïîõîæ íà Hammond. Ñóäÿ ïî ôîòîãðàôèè îðãàí íå èìååò áàðîâ, êîòîðûå åñòü ó îðãàíà íà âèäåî. Òàêæå íà âèäåî ïðèñóòñòâóåò Ëåñëè ELKA, ñ êîòîðîé äàæå Þíîñòü çàçâó÷èò "ïîõîæå íà õàììîíä". Ñëîâà èç ñòàòüè, ÷òî "ïåðâûé èíñòðóìåíò TRIP, (êîòîðûé, ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó ó Âàñ), èìååò òîí ãåíåðàòîð ñ îñöèëëÿòîðàìè íà êàæäóþ íîòó 5 îêòàâíîé êëàâèàòóðû". Âîçíèêàåò âîïðîñ, êàê îñóùåñòâëåíà ñõåìîòåõíè÷åñêè ýòà êîíöåïöèÿ. Åñëè òàì êîëåñà è ìîòîð, êàê ó Õàììîíäà - âîïðîñîâ íåò, ýòî êðóòî è äîðîãî. Åñëè òàì áèòêîì òðàíçèñòîðíûå îñöèëëÿòîðû â êîëè÷åñòâå 61-ãî - òî ýòî èíòåðåñíî, íî ñõåìîòåõíè÷åñêè î÷åíü íåíàäåæíî, ò.ê. íåóìîëèìîå âðåìÿ ñêîðåå âñåãî íå ïîùàäèëî ãåíåðàòîðû è îíè âñå ìèíèìóì ðàññòðîåíû. Ðåìîíò áóäåò âåñüìà ñëîæíûì. Öåíà, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, áóäåò íèçêîé. Ïîýòîìó, ÷òîáû àäåêâàòíî îöåíèòü èíñòðóìåíò, íóæíû: 1) Îðèãèíàëüíûå ôîòî, êàê ñíàðóæè, òàê è èçíóòðè. 2) Îðèãèíàëüíûå ïðèìåðû çâóêà (åñëè îí åñòü) Íó è íàïîñëåäîê î Ìàíçàðåêàõ - ïðîñëàâèëñÿ îí â îáùåì-òî èñïîëíåíèåì íà Vox... |
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Òåìà: Re: îöåíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ôèíñêèé ýëåêòðîîðãàí íà÷àëà ñåìèäåñÿòûõ, àíàëîã õàììîíäà
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ñïàñèáî çà êóëüòïðîñâåò! | |
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Òåìà: Re: îöåíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ôèíñêèé ýëåêòðîîðãàí íà÷àëà ñåìèäåñÿòûõ, àíàëîã õàììîíäà
Âðåìÿ: 23.11.2009 14:02 |
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íåðåçèíîâñê Petrof / Roland VR-760 / Edwards STL95 / Rickenbacker 4001 repli 
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Serge, òàì æå âñ¸ íàïèñàíî: "uses solid state amplifiers and electronic sine wave oscillators to produce its sound. In my opinion, the base of the sound of a WLM organ is cleaner, very near to pure sine wave and so it has no such kind of warmth and "dirtiness" that an original electro-mechanical Hammond has." "The very first WLM model "TRIP" was a combo organ with two 5 octave manuals. I have been told that it had a tone generator "more like a Hammond", which could mean that it had own oscillator to each tone. Later WLM models used 12 base oscillators which were then divided." Ñðàâíèâàòü ýòîò îðãàí ëîãè÷íåå ñ åãî òðàíçèñòîðíûìè ñîáðàòüÿìè Vox è Farfisa, íåæåëè ñ ýëåêòðîìåõàíè÷åñêèì Hammond organ. Äóìàþ öåííîñòü îí ïðåäñòàâëÿåò ëèøü äëÿ óçêîãî êðóãà ëþáèòåëåé âèíòàæíûõ êëàâèøíûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ. Çäåñü ÷åëîâåê ðàññêàçûâàåò î òîì, ÷òî âçÿë çà $300 ñòàðøóþ ìîäåëü ñ äâóìÿ ìàíóàëàìè, äðîóáàðàìè è âñòðîåííûì Ëåñëè. Âðÿä ëè âàì ñòîèò ðàññ÷èòûâàòü íà áîëüøåå.  êîíöå îáçîðà îí ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî åñëè áû ó íåãî óêðàëè ýòîò èíñòðóìåíò, îí íå ñòàë áû èñêàòü òàêîé æå, à ïîäêîïèë áû äåíüæàò íà íàñòîÿùèé Õàììîíä, èëè õîòÿ áû áîëåå ðåàëèñòè÷íûé åãî êëîí ,) |
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Do you realize? This world is totally fugazi!
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Òåìà: Re: îöåíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ôèíñêèé ýëåêòðîîðãàí íà÷àëà ñåìèäåñÿòûõ, àíàëîã õàììîíäà
Âðåìÿ: 23.11.2009 14:35 |
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Äà, ÿ âèäèìî íåâíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàë. Ïðîñòî ìíå âñïîìíèëàñü Èîíèêà - êàê îíà áûëà ðàçðàáîòàíà, ñ ïðèìåíåíèåì ëàìï â îñöèëëÿòîðàõ è ñ íåîíêàìè. Ïîýòîìó ìíå è ñòàëî èíòåðåñíî ïîñìîòðåòü "÷òî ó íåãî âíóòðè". Íà ìîåé ïàìÿòè åùå íå áûëî ïîëíîãåíåðàòîðíûõ îðãàíîâ â ýëåêòðîíèêå. Äàæå ïåðâàÿ Þíîñòü áûëà 12-òè ãåíåðàòîðíàÿ ñ äåëèòåëÿìè. Ïîýòîìó, âñå æå õîòåëîñü áû óçðåòü ôîòîãðàôèè. |
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Òåìà: Re: îöåíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ôèíñêèé ýëåêòðîîðãàí íà÷àëà ñåìèäåñÿòûõ, àíàëîã õàììîíäà
Âðåìÿ: 23.11.2009 19:52 |
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Ìîñêâà Ýòíè÷åñêèå 
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>íå ïåðåâåëèñü åùå ìàíçàðåêè íà çåìëå ðóññêîé?) åìíèï ìàíçàðåê íà õàììîíäå íå èãðàë. îí íà òðàíçèñòîðíûõ êàê ðàç íàÿðèâàë. |
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