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Ôàíê, äæàç, ôüþæí è áëþç

Çàäàòü íîâóþ òåìó
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Òåìà: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 07.04.2008 12:01 
Ìîñêâà
Drums

âèäåî - http://video.mail.ru/mail/giperton/AM
ôîòî - http://foto.mail.ru/mail/giperton/1562
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 07.04.2008 14:14 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
òóðáî-òîñòåð

ìîã òóäà ïî ðàáîòå ïîåõàòü.â äðóãîå ìåñòî îòïðàâèëè :cry:
Mandolin Brothers
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2008 01:00 



íà áàðàáàíàõ îí èãðàòü òàêè íå óìååò. çà÷åì îí âîîáùå ñåë çà óäàðíóþ óñòàíîâêó? óøåë ïîñëå ïåðâîãî îòäåëåíèÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2008 11:03 
Ìîñêâà
Drums

>íà áàðàáàíàõ îí èãðàòü òàêè íå óìååò. çà÷åì îí âîîáùå ñåë çà óäàðíóþ óñòàíîâêó? óøåë ïîñëå ïåðâîãî îòäåëåíèÿ.

ñêàçàë, êàê îòðåçàë.
äà, îí, êîíå÷íî, áîëüøå ïåðêóññèîíèñò, ÷åì áàðàáàíùèê, íî âòîðîå îòäåëåíèå ïîðàäîâàëî õîòü êàêèì-òî ðàçíîîáðàçèåì (áèòáîêñ, ïåñíè íèíû ñèìîíå, áîáà ìàðëè, îáåùàííûé õèï-õîï...)
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2008 12:17 



Ôèã åãî çíàåò, ÷òî òàì áûëî â Äîìå Ìóçûêè... Ìîæ îí áîëåë? Êðèòè÷åñêèå äíè ìîæ... Ïîâûøåííîå äàâëåíèå, âñïûøêè íà ñîëíöå, è ò.ï. Ôèã åãî çíàåò...


Êîðî÷å ãîâîðÿ, â 92-ì ãîäó áûë â Ìîñêâå ìåæäóíàðîäíûé äæàçîâûé ôåñòèâàëü, äëèíîé â 2 äíÿ. Ïðîèñõîäèëî ýòî â êèíîòåàòðå "Îêòÿáðü".
Ãðóïïà Àéðòî Ìîðåéðû òàì áûëà õýäëàéíåðîì.
Èãðàëè îíè âòðî¸ì:
- Ìîðåéðà
- ãèòàðèñò, ó êîòîðîãî 6-ÿ ñòðóíà áûëà áàñîâîé, è îí îäíîâðåìåííî èãðàë çà áàñ è çà ãèòàðó
- ñàêñîôîíèñò, êîòîðûé òàêæå èãðàë è íà ôëåéòå, è íà êëàâèøàõ, è îäíîâðåìåííî íà ñàêñå + íà êëàâèøàõ çàêîíåêòèâ ýòî äåëî ÷åðåç midi. Ò.å. ïàðàëëåëüíûìè àêêîðäàìè ñîëî ñòðóÿ÷èë.

Ñàêñîôîíèñò-ôëåéòèñò, êîíå÷íî, òîæå òàì äàâàë æàðó. Íî ñàìûì ïîòðÿñàþùèì ÷óâàêîì òàì áûë ñàì ìàýñòðî Ìîðåéðà.
Ñèäåë îí çà óñòàíîâêîé è âñþ óñòàíîâêó îáñëóæèâàë äâóìÿ íîãàìè + îäíîé ðóêîé (ïðè ýòîì ìîæíî áûëî ïîäóìàòü, ÷òî ðóê ó íåãî 3). Íî åù¸ îäíîé ðóêîé îí ïîñòîÿííî ïîòðÿñàë êàêèìè-òî ñâîèìè ïåðêóññèîííûìè ïîãðåìóøêàìè, ñâÿçêàìè ñóø¸íûõ ãðèáîâ, è ïðî÷èìè íåîïîçíàâàåìûìè øòó÷êàìè. Ðàñêîîðäèíèðîâàííîñòü ðóê ó ÷óâàêà áûëà ïðîñòî ôåíîìåíàëüíàÿ. Íàøè äæàçîâûå áàðàáàíùèêè îõðèåíåëè íàñìåðòü - ïîòîì åãî ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ îáñóæäàëè, íèêàê â ñåáÿ ïðèéòè íå ìîãëè.

Òàê ÷òî ïðî òî, ÷òî Ìîðåéðà íà óñòàíîâêå èãðàòü íå óìååò - ÅÙ¨ ÊÀÊ ÓÌÅÅÒ! :idea2: :idea2:
Âèäèìî, ïðîñòî â äåíü ïîñëåäíåãî ìîñêîâñêîãî êîíöåðòà ÷òî-òî ñî çäîðîâüåì ó íåãî áûëî íåñêëàäíî...
ÿ âîëüíîé ïòèöåé ñìîòðþ íà çåìëþ
ñèæó íà êðûøå è ï¸ðûøêè ÷èùó
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 08.04.2008 15:15 



>Êîðî÷å ãîâîðÿ, â 92-ì ãîäó áûë â Ìîñêâå ìåæäóíàðîäíûé äæàçîâûé ôåñòèâàëü...

äà ýòî áûëî ÷òî-òî! ÿ áûë íà ýòîì ôåñòå, êñòàòè âîò âðåìåíà - âõîä áûë õàëÿâíûé :idea2: Êîãäà Ìîðåéðà çàìóòèë ñâî¸ ñîëî íà òàìáóðèíå, ïåðâûå ðÿäû âîîáùå âûáåæàëè òàíöåâàòü â ïàðòåðå! Ôëîðà ïåëà...ýýýõõõ! Òàì åù¸ âûñòóïèë ìîëîäîé îäàð¸ííûé ãàðìîøå÷êèê Wiliam Galison, ïîñëå êîíöåðòà íàøà êîìïàíü åãî àíãàæèðîâàëà íà äæåì, à ïîòîì ìû íàïèëèñü :)
Gods Forsaken Radio m/
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2008 18:00 



>Òàê ÷òî ïðî òî, ÷òî Ìîðåéðà íà óñòàíîâêå èãðàòü íå óìååò - ÅÙ¨ ÊÀÊ ÓÌÅÅÒ! :idea2: :idea2:

ñïåöîì íàáëþäàë â áèíîêîëü - òåõíèêà íà óðîâíå 1 ãîäà îáó÷åíèÿ, çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèå - íèêàêîå, òåì íå äåðæèò è òÿíåò áåíä íàçàä.
âñå ýòè íàáëþäåíèÿ ïîçâîëÿþò ñäåëàòü âûâîä, ÷òî òàêè íå óìååò :)
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2008 21:16 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
òóðáî-òîñòåð

>ñïåöîì íàáëþäàë â áèíîêîëü
ìîæåò íå òåì êîíöîì äåðæàë :)
Mandolin Brothers
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2008 13:24 



>ñïåöîì íàáëþäàë â áèíîêîëü - òåõíèêà íà óðîâíå 1 ãîäà îáó÷åíèÿ, çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèå - íèêàêîå, òåì íå äåðæèò è òÿíåò áåíä íàçàä.
>âñå ýòè íàáëþäåíèÿ ïîçâîëÿþò ñäåëàòü âûâîä, ÷òî òàêè íå óìååò

íó âîò êåì íàäî áûòü ÷òîá òàêîå âûâåñòè?
åæåëè íå ñå÷¸øü â ýòîì çà÷åì ïîçîðèòüñÿ?
è ÷èñòî íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé, äëÿ èíôîðìàöèè:
http://www.airto.com/airtooldsite/frames1/wildframeset.htm
Gods Forsaken Radio m/
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2008 15:33 

Áëþçîâàÿ áàëàëàéêà

>>ñïåöîì íàáëþäàë â áèíîêîëü - òåõíèêà íà óðîâíå 1 ãîäà îáó÷åíèÿ, çâóêîèçâëå÷åíèå - íèêàêîå, òåì íå äåðæèò è òÿíåò áåíä íàçàä.
>>âñå ýòè íàáëþäåíèÿ ïîçâîëÿþò ñäåëàòü âûâîä, ÷òî òàêè íå óìååò
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Airto was one of the first "New Percussionists" to combine percussion with drumset in Brazil (along with Luciano Perrone and Jadir de Castro) and use traditional percussion instruments from Brazil, Cuba, Africa, and China in new ways in jazz and popular music. His impact on percussion in jazz was so huge that Down Beat created a category for percussion in both the annual Jazz Critics and Readers Polls, which he won first place in for nine consecutive years from 1974-1982 as well as eight consecutive years in the Modern Drummer Readers Poll from 1979-1986, and topped polls in Jazziz, Swing Journal, Drum!, and even on the Internet.
NSR: Did you play percussion before you played drumset?
AM: Yeah, I started playing pandeiro when I was four or five.
NSR: How did you get involved with drumset, and what kind of training did you have? What did you practice?
AM: Well, I never really practiced that much. I just kept myself playing all the time, and there was no time for practicing [laughter].
NSR: You were self-taught on drumset?
AM: Yeah, definitely! I went to a dance, a carnaval ball, with my father, mother, and my sister. I was too young, about fourteen, and couldn't stay in the ballroom. I had to stay with the musicians on this little stage there. The drummer was late, so they asked me if I knew how to play drums. I said, "Well, I don't know, I never played." But they knew me because they used to sneak me in on Sunday afternoons, and I used to sit in with some musicians, and I'd sing and play some percussion. So they asked me if I knew how to play drumset! I sat down, and they asked me to play three different rhythms, which are the main rhythms for the carnaval. I played them on drumset right away because I used to watch the drummer all the time. Then they said, "Do you want to play until the drummer comes in?" I said, "Sure." I played the whole night because the guy never showed up. So then I was playing drumset!
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 01:17 



>...
îòâå÷ó êðàòêî - ìóçûêó àèðòî ìîðåéðà äî ýòîãî êîíöåðòà ÿ òîëêîì íå ñëóøàë, çàòî ìíîãî ñëûøàë î íåì ëåñòíîãî. îäíàêî ïî-ìîåìó òî, ÷òî ïîêàçàëà ãðóïïà íå ñòîèëî òàêèõ ïàôîñíûõ ðå÷åé ïåðåä êîíöåðòîì è âñåîáùåãî àæèîòàæà. îòñóòñòâèå òåõíèêè ìîæíî ïðîñòèòü (ýòî â êîíöå êîíöîâ ïðîñòî èíñòðóìåíò), íî òî ÷òî ïåðêóññèîíèñò-áàðàáàíùèê ýëåìåíòàðíî íå ñïðàâëÿåòñÿ ñ òåìïîì, ðàçâàëèâàÿ áýíä, êîðîáî÷íîå çâó÷àíèå èíñòðóìåíòà, ìåñòàìè ñîìíèòåëüíûé ñî ñòèëèñòè÷åñêîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ àêêîìïàíèìåíò - âîò ýòîãî ÿ ïîíÿòü íå ìîãó. îïðàäàíèåì ìîæåò áûòü îòâðàòèòåëüíûé çâóê (ó íàñ çâóê ñòðîÿò òàê, ÷òî êîãäà íà ñöåíå áîëüøå 3-õ ìèêðîôîíîâ - ñëûøåí òîëüêî ëÿçã ñòðóí è æåëåçà).
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 01:56 



>îïðàäàíèåì ìîæåò áûòü îòâðàòèòåëüíûé çâóê (ó íàñ çâóê ñòðîÿò òàê, ÷òî êîãäà íà ñöåíå áîëüøå 3-õ ìèêðîôîíîâ - ñëûøåí òîëüêî ëÿçã ñòðóí è æåëåçà).

ÒÀÊ ÂÎÍ ÎÍÎ ×ÒÎ! ! !
×óâàààààê... Òàê áû ñðàçó è ñêàçàë.

 Äîì Ìóçûêè íóæíî õîäèòü ñëóøàòü ÒÎËÜÊÎ àêàäåìè÷åñêóþ ìóçûêó. ÒÎËÜÊÎ!
À ìóçûêó ÷óòü áîëåå ãðîìêóþ òàì ñëóøàòü íå íóæíî. ×ÒÎÁÛ ÍÅ ÎÁËÎÌÀÒÜÑß. Òû âîò îáëîìàëñÿ. Äóìàåøü, òû ïåðâûé, êòî îáëîìàëñÿ â Äîìå Ìóçûêè? :lool: :lool: :roll:
Îáëîì â "Äîìå ìóçûêè íà Êðàñíûõ Õîëìàõ" - ÝÒÎ ÂÏÎËÍÅ ÍÎÐÌÀËÜÍÎÅ ÄÅËÎ.
×èòàé âîò òóò:
http://www.musicforums.ru/jazz_funk/view.php?bn=mfor_jazzfunk&key=1166263259&pattern=%EF%EE%E7%EE%F0+%C4%EE%EC%E0+%CC%F3%E7%FB%EA%E8#N1167158142
ÿ âîëüíîé ïòèöåé ñìîòðþ íà çåìëþ
ñèæó íà êðûøå è ï¸ðûøêè ÷èùó
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 11:16 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
òóðáî-òîñòåð

>Serge
íó íå çíàþ.áûë òàì íà ñòåíëè êëàðêå è åùå íà íåñêîëüêèõ êîíöåðòàõ,çâóê íå îáëàìûâàë.è âîîáùå ôèðìà÷è îáû÷íî ñî ñâîèìè çâóêà÷àìè ïðèåçæàþò.òàê ÷òî íå íàäî
>ó íàñ çâóê ñòðîÿò òàê
èëè îíè òîëüêî ó íàñ ïëîõî çâóê îòñòðàèâàþò?
Mandolin Brothers
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 12:37 



DooBass, òû ïî ññûëêå âñ¸ ëè ïðî÷èòàë? Òàì íå îäèí òîëüêî ÿ âûñêàçûâàëñÿ ïðî ÷óäåñíûé çâóê â Äîìå Ìóçûêè.

À êàê òàì èãðàë Ñòýíëè Êëàðê - ÿ íå â êóðñå. Âîçìîæíî îí èãðàë ìàëûì ñîñòàâîì â àêêóñòèêå. Ìàëûå ñîñòàâû, íå òðåáóþùèå ãðîìêîé ïîäçâó÷êè, òàì çâó÷àò âïîëíå äîñòîéíî.
ÿ âîëüíîé ïòèöåé ñìîòðþ íà çåìëþ
ñèæó íà êðûøå è ï¸ðûøêè ÷èùó
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 13:40 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
òóðáî-òîñòåð

ÿ íå óòâåðæäàþ ÷òî â ìäì âñåãäà õîðîøèé çâóê,ïðîñòî ÿ íå ñòàëêèâàëñÿ òàì ñ îòêðîâåííî ïëîõèì,õîòÿ äîâîëüíî ÷àñòî áûâàþ òàì ïî ðàáîòå.
>À êàê òàì èãðàë Ñòýíëè Êëàðê - ÿ íå â êóðñå. Âîçìîæíî îí èãðàë ìàëûì ñîñòàâîì â àêêóñòèêå.
èãðàë îí â ýëåêòðè÷åñêîì êâèíòåòå.íà îäíîãî ÷åëîâåêà ìåíüøå ÷åì ó ìîðåéðû.âðÿä ëè ýòî äåëàåò ïîãîäó.
Mandolin Brothers
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Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 13:55 
Ìîñêâà
Drums

äà, çâóê êàê çâóê, ÿ áû íå ñêàçàë, ÷òî Î×ÅÍÜ îí óæ ïëîõîé.
ïðîñòî îòêðîâåííî ñêó÷íûé ìàòåðèàë èãðàë Àèðòî è Êî. Ïèñàëè òî, ÷òî áóäåò òðèï-õîï, õèï-õîï, ôàíê... à â èòîãå ÷òî? êàêàÿ-òî ýòíè÷åñêàÿ áðàçèëüñêàÿ íàðîäíàÿ ìåäèòàòèâíàÿ ìóçûêà 80 % âðåìåíè... íó òîëüêî ïîä êîíåö íà÷àëè ïîä õèï-õîï ÷òî-òî äåëàòü)

âîò îò ýòîãî äà, ìîæíî áûëî îáëàìàòüñÿ. ìíîãèå â àíòðàêòå è ñâàëèëè èç-çà ýòîãî, äóìàþ...
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 14:13 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
òóðáî-òîñòåð

>âîò îò ýòîãî äà, ìîæíî áûëî îáëàìàòüñÿ
îò íàðîäíîé ìåäåòàòèâíîé ìóçûêè?ýõ,ìîëîäåæü...)
Mandolin Brothers
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Òåìà: Re: Àèðòî Ìîðåéðà â Äîìå Ìóçûêè
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2008 15:04 



íà äàéàíå ðèâç (òðèî) çâóê áûë õîðîøèé. íà àèðòî íà áàëêîíå áûë äèêèé ðåâåð îò æåëåçà. à ìóçûêà - äà ñêó÷íàÿ äîñòàòî÷íî, òîëüêî íå ïî ïðè÷èíå òîãî, ÷òî ýòî íå õèï-õîï èëè ôàíê, à ïîòîìó, ÷òî èãðàëîñü âñå î÷åíü òÿæåëî è ãðóçíî - íå áûëî ëåãêîñòè. âèíþ â ýòîì ìóçûêàíòîâ â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü, à íå çâóê.
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!