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Òåìà: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 25.03.2008 16:27 
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Ñóäÿ ïî ýòîé ññûëêå âàøè Ãðåêî êîðåéñêèå. Ïîÿñíèòå.
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Âðåìÿ: 25.03.2008 18:28 



Ñåðãåé, èíîãäà ëó÷øå æåâàòü, ÷åì ãîâîðèòü.
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Âðåìÿ: 25.03.2008 20:13 
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Êñòàòè äà,- èíòåðåñíî, ÷òî îçíà÷àþò ðàçíûå ëîãîòèïû íà ãîëîâêå ãðèôà, ñ ÷åì ñâÿçàíû èõ ðàçëè÷èÿ ?
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 25.03.2008 21:05 
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Óâàæàåìûé fenfan ïî ïðè÷èíå ñâîåé ïëîõîé ñîîáðàçèòåëüíîñòè ÿ íå ïîíÿë êàêîé ñìûñë çàëîæåí â âàøåì èñêðîìåòíîì âûñêàçûâàíèè.
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 25.03.2008 21:30 
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Äåéñòâèòåëüíî èíòåðåñíî ãäå ñäåëàíû ãèòàðû? Òàíàêà ÀÓ!
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 00:06 
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GTX Les Paul Std. '89, Ibanez JS1000 '98

>Ñåðãåé, èíîãäà ëó÷øå æåâàòü, ÷åì ãîâîðèòü.

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Îñòàëüíûå ãîðèòå â àäó
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 10:37 



Ñåðãåé, ïðîñòî âàø âîïðîñ çâó÷èò ïðèìåðíî êàê: "Òàíàêà, íåõîðîøî âïàðèâàòü ëþäÿì êîðåéñêèé õëàì". Òàíàêà î÷åíü ïîðÿäî÷íûé ÷åëîâåê, îí íå ñòàíåò ñêðûâàòü îò âàñ ñòðàíó ïðîèçâîäñòâà.

Ïîäà÷à âàøåãî âîïðîñà ìåíÿ ñïîäâèãëà íà òàêîé îòâåò.

Ìîæíî áûëî ïðîñòî ïîèíòåðåñîâàòüñÿ: "Ñóäÿ ïî ññûëêå íåêîòîðûå ãèòàðû Ãðåêî ïðîèçâîäÿò â Êîðåå, ïîÿñíèòå ïîæàëóéñòà"

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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 15:33 
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***çâó÷èò ïðèìåðíî êàê: "Òàíàêà, íåõîðîøî âïàðèâàòü ëþäÿì êîðåéñêèé õëàì"***
à ÷òî â ýòîì åñòü íå÷òî õîðîùåå ? )))
 êîìåðöèè íåòó õîðîøèõ è ïëîõèõ åñòü òå êòî íàèïàë è òåõ òî äàë ñåáÿ íàèïàòü, âîïðîñ áûë ïîñòàâëåí êîððåêòíî.
Íå áóäåì óòðàèâàòü äåìàãîãèþ, ïóñòü êàæåò Òàíàêà, ñ ÷åì ñâÿçàíû ðàçëè÷èÿ ëîãîòèïîâ íà ãèòàðàõ :idea2: ìíå ïíàïðèìåð ñàìîìó èíòåðåñíî.
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 16:34 
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Ãîñïîäèí Òàíàêà. íàðîä õî÷åò çíàòü ïðàâäó!
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 17:09 
Moscow


âñåãäà èíòåðåñîâàëñÿ òàêèì æå âîïðîñîì!ñ òàêîé èíêðóñòàöèåé - Êîðåÿ!âñå ïèøóò ßïîíèÿ!ïðîñâåòèòå êòî-íèòü!

Ç.Û.âîïðîñ àâòîðà ïîñòàâëåí ÷Îòêî)))
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 17:15 
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à ê ñòàòè åñòü è âîîáùå áåç ëîãîòèïà íà ãîëîâêå ãðèôà... ñ ÷åì ýòî ñâÿçàíî ?
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 17:44 
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âîò òðè òèïà ëîãî
http://www.japanvintageguitars.com/images/large/Greco%20LP%2068-50.jpg
http://www.japanvintageguitars.com/images/large/Greco%201000.jpg
http://www.cosmikdebris.co.uk/pics/koreacustfront.jpg

â ÷¸ì ðàçíèöà ìåæäó ãèòàðàìè â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ëîãîòèïà? ïðîñòî ìîäåëè ðàçíûå âðîäå âðîäå êàñòîì 1000 è êàñòîì 800 ? È âñå ëè ãèòàðû èç ãîòîâëåíû â ßïîíèè?
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Òåìà: Re: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2008 18:17 
Moscow from Tokyo
Fender Jazz Bass 1978

Do suredi 90s, y GRECO ni adnabo syutuk net praizbostoba zagranitsa. 100% iponskii bl.

Lespole Custom, kakda greco sderal copy gibson, kanisina
100% iponskii. Made in Japan.

Zabod, "FUJIGEN" i "DYNA INSTRUMENT" b iponii.

Tanaka
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2008 00:25 
ãîñòü



Âîò òåïåðü íàì ÿñíî è ìû âñå ïîâåðèëè! Ãðåêî ñäåëàë êîïèè Ãèáñîí!Ýòî ïîíÿòíî! À êòî è ãäå â ýòî âðåìÿ äåëàë êîïèè Ãðåêî? Èëè ýòî íå âîçìîæíî?
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Òåìà: Ãäå ñäåëàíû âàøè GRECO custom?
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2008 00:57 
dan



Ëþáîïûòíî...
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2008 06:13 
Moscow from Tokyo
Fender Jazz Bass 1978

thi maradoi , paetam nichibo ni znaeshi, no kakda mi maradoi b 70s 80s, bl baina amerikanskii instrument i iponskii kopii.

amerikanskii nastayashii vs iponskii kopii
iponskii greco, tokai, fernandes, aria, kasuga, yakaha, ibanez tak dare. asobenna greco bl samii borishoi firma, i y nibo samii sirokii asortment bl.

asobenna kaniets 70s, i nachare 80s greco stal ochin bisokii urobenni. paetam, kakda b fender usa prishol nobii generarnii direktor iz YAMAHA USA, on sraz reshil sito Fender Japan puskaet sderachi GRECO katorii bl samii moshinii kanal pradaji i kanal praizbostoba.

daje sichas GRECO 1 iz samii borishoi muzikarinii instrumentarinii firma. Sbayu praizbostoba, Fender Japan i Greco, i issyo ochin mnoga importnii praba b iponii.Na primel, Musicman toje zanimaetsa targobrii atdel greco b iponii.

tanaka
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2008 15:33 
Ñåðãåé



È âñå òàêè ïî÷åìó íà ãèòàðàõ ðàçíûå ëîãîòèïû?
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2008 19:16 
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ñêîðåé âñåãî ýòî çàâèñèò îò ìîäåëè eg100 eg800 eg500 íó è ò.ï.
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2008 19:17 
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eg1000 ñîððè î÷åïÿòêà
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2008 23:03 
Moscow from Tokyo
Fender Jazz Bass 1978

Logo tipa GRECO, i forma graba menyaetsa y kajidaba pakarenie.
samaya nachare asobenna 70s, GRECO sderal ochin pahojii kopi gibson, i patom ni mnosika nachil pamenyachi dezain. patamsito gibson pashol b sud, i rugarisi.

tak mnoga iponskii guitar eksportirabari k USA.
eta bla 70s i nachare 80s.

Paetam fender i gibson pastoroil sbayu firma b iponii,
sitobi iponskii praizbadicheri ni deraet kopi i eksport.

Fender Japan, i Orville by Gibson, kakraz stal 2 iponskii fender i gibson.

tanaka
89166592837
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 28.04.2008 04:42 
Ìàòâèåíêî-ñèòè
Gibson Les Paul Standard`97 ESP KH-2

http://www.orangeguitar.com/aboutgreco.htm
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 28.04.2008 09:55 
Moscow from Tokyo
Fender Jazz Bass 1978

Mnoga ni praiberina informatsie!!!!!
Prosta smeshino. Daje dumaet sito greco 1 tipa serial.
Net net net. Y greco serial raznii tipa. Daje iesti model
katorii iesti serial posri 90s.

fsyorabno , ya magu praberichi fsyo ashipka etat inostranits.
(y nibo asipka iesti y kajidaba liniea. No ksajyarinyu eta
patarok inostranits.)

Y nas iesti ochin borishoi, i raznii site, iz korektionel,
iz Greco sam, i issyo drugoi maniak.

issyo raz skajyu. Lespaul Custom, ani ni praizbadhili b karei.
smisl ne bl. prosta.

i etat inosttanits, pisit sito kaniets 70s , samii haloshii.
no eta pamoem, sluchaina y nibo takoi guitar, iri prosta sluchaina on hochit pradabachi.

fsyo ipnits smiyatsa. 70s, issyo y GRECO ne bl teknorojii.
ruchishii guitar praizbadiri garazda borishe b 80s.

Daje, iponskii zabod praizbadil drya USA fender b 80s,
kakda fender probrema b fabrika.

Ya uje ustal, pisachi.

Tanaka
89166592837
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 28.04.2008 10:35 
Moscow from Tokyo
Fender Jazz Bass 1978

OK pasmatorii, kaki ashibka y nibo!!!!!
zachem mne nada pisachi ?????

Greco is one of the pioneers of these lawsuit guitar makers. They have been making guitars since the early 1960's at the Fiji-genGakki plant. However, note that some Fender copies were made in the Matsumoku plant prior to 1967.

(Naprimel, GRECO, Y nibo net zabod. Eta targobrii firma. Paetam fsekda GRECO nada zakazachi iponskii praizbostoba. Da, FUJI gengakki toje adjin iz nif. No daje GRECO zakazal TOKAI sito bi praizbajichi guitar. (Y TOKAI iesti zabod.) issyo raznii zabod.No pa moem y nibo informatsie torika FUJI i MATSUMOKU. Patamsito ani izbestnii, i napisana na guitar)

During this period, Greco made their own series of guitars, but in the early 1970's, they got into making replicas of original Fenders and Gibsons. In the beginning, their work on these replicas were mediocre due to lack of proper knowledge and materials. But by 1974 or so, their standard of making these copies escalated as they acquired correctly styled hardware. To top that, their craftsmanship were excellent.

(GRECO nachil seryoznii kopi gibson 1971. Prigrashil izbestnii guitarist Shigeru Narumo (on sbayu kontsert srabnibal Gibson i Greco, 1974, issyo y GRECO "lack of proper knowledge and materials" bl. na primel, samii izbestnii , eta pakraska zadnii korpse lespaul. Y greco bl torika fotografia, paetam y GRECO ne bl informatsie zadnii bid. Paetam pakraska fsyo takje strana dachki pakrashit tak dare)

In no time, Greco made more clone models of original Fender, Gibson, Rickenbacker, Gretsch, Zemaiti, lbanez, (and other brands) than all other Japanese company combined. In terms of quality, skill and knowledge, they beat Tokai to the lawsuit race by at least 5 years.

(Ochin borishoi asipka, zjeshi. On pisit GRECO deral kopi IBANEZ. Eta smesino. GRECO i IBANEZ, originarinii adjin etajinoi firma. GRECO zanimalsya bnutrinii iponii, i IBANEZ zanimalsya eksport. Paetam ani ni konkrient bl. Ani adjinnakabii firma.
i zematis, kanisina ni praizbajil etat bremya. GRECO nachil zematis ni dabna)

The birth of Fender Japan

Eventually, as the company found that the demand for their popular replicas grew and that the size of the production was getting too large, they relinquished their Stratocaster division to Fender Japan in late 1981. By 1982, Greco Stratocasters became Fender JV Stratocasters, then later MIJ and CIJ Stratocasters. These guitars were made by the same guys who made the Greco "Sparkle Sound," "Spacey Sound," "Sparkle Sound," and "Super Real" Stratocasters from 1977-1981.

(Asibka 1977-1982)

The death of Greco's copy

Greco still retained the business of selling great Gibson clones and other brand knockoffs of extraordinary high quality up until 1989. After that, the pressure to 田ease and desist・production of copyright-infringing designs took its toll on Greco and they decided to change their headstocks and logos to avoid a confrontation with the American manufacturers. No longer will 斗awsuit・models of exact Gibson and Fender clones be made by Greco.


The different series of Greco

Greco copies are becoming extremely rare and demand gets higher as time passes for these vintage collectibles. The best series of Greco by far are the 鉄uper Real・(made in 1980 only) and 溺int Collection・ (made from 1981-1990) models, which were made to amazing likeness to original Fenders and Gibson痴. Greco痴 1977-1979 clones are very nice, too, but many have hardware and specs that don稚 match up with the Gibson and Fender classic designs.

(Super Real 1980-1982, Mint Collection 1982-1989)


Serialization

Greco guitars are fairly easy to date. The letter that (may) begin the serial number corresponds with the month of production, and the next 2 digits tell the year. For example: E804235 would be a May, 1980 鉄uper Real・model, production number 4,235. Sometimes, Greco didn稚 use letters and only numbers, and even separated the first digit from the rest on occasion. When the first digit is separated, it is likely a 1980痴 model; the separated digit corresponding to the year of the 1980痴 in which it was made.

If there is no serial number stamped into the wood (not on a sticker), then it was made in Korea.

(Toje ksajyarinyu ni tak prosta. No ksajyarinyu y nibo mara informatsie. Serial GRECO asnabnoi 3. ya pisyu,

GRECO nashil serial okara 1975.

TYPE:1 Izporizabari 1975-1994 na 7 tsifre
Naprimel K 1234567
perbii bukkba "meshets" (A=inbarya B= febrarei C= marta,
karochii K= nayabrya)

TYPE2: 5 tsifre
Naprimel 0 1234
perbii tsifre pakajibaet god. iesri "0"= 1980
patom prosta nomel praizbostoba

TYPE3: Borishenstobo, GRECO perestal pastabichi serial posri 90s
no ni katorii model pastabil serial tak je
D00054&#
65305;
Eta prosta pakajibaet, na kakom zabod praizbadiri.
posri 1995, takii nomel mnoga

Pachem takii baldak, patamsito, Y GRECO net zabod. GRECO samii borishoi kampanii katorii zanimaetsa instrument, no Y nibo net praizbostoba. Eta prochina sito takii baldak serial.

Ustal.Ustal.Ustal
Pajyoulsta uje ni pisi mne!!!!!

Tanaka
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO Lespaul Custom
Âðåìÿ: 28.04.2008 10:50 
Moscow from Tokyo
Fender Jazz Bass 1978

Ya znayu sito pachem tak pereputabaet,
patamsito "Orville by Gibson", y nibo,
iesti iponskii i kareiskii.

i LESPAUL CUSTOM ORVILLE BY GIBSON,
kareiskii, y nibo net serial takoije mesta.
hacya iponskii iesti serial.

Tanaka
89166592837
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