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Òåìà: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2007 18:08 |
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ÇÄÐÀÑÒÂÓÉÒÅ ÓÂÀÆÀÅÌÛÉ TANAKA. ß ÁÛ ÕÎÒÅË ÏÐÈÎÁÐÅÑÒÈ Â ÑÊÎÐÎÌ ÁÓÄÓÙÅÌ Ó ÂÀÑ GRECO. ÍÎ ß ÑÎÂÅÐØÅÍÍÎ ÍÅ ÐÀÇÁÈÐÀÞÑÜ Â ÌÎÄÅËÜÍÎÌ ÐßÄÅ ÝÒÈÕ ÃÈÒÀÐ. ÃËÀÂÍÎÅ ÊÐÀÑÍÎÅ ÄÅÐÅÂÎ,ÂÊËÅÅÍÍÛÉ ÃÐÈÔ(ÍÈÊÀÊÈÕ ÁÎËÒÎÂ),ÏÎËÈÑÀÍÄÐ, È ÆÅËÀÒÅËÜÍÎ ÇÀÊÐÛÒÛÅ ÕÀÌÁÀÊÅÐÛ. ÁÞÄÆÅÒ ÎÊÎËÎ 18000ð.ÌÎÆÍÎ ËÈ ÂÇßÒÜ ÇÀ ÒÀÊÈÅ ÄÅÍÜÃÈ ÕÎÒÜ ×ÒÎ-ÍÈÁÓÄÜ Â ÈÄÅÀËÜÍÎÌ ÑÎÑÒÀßÍÈÈ. ÏÐÎÑÒÎ ÎÑÎÁÎ ÒÐÀÒÈÒÑß ÍÅÒ ÆÅËÀÍÈß Ò.Ê. Ó ÌÅÍß ÒÞÍÈÍÃÎÂÀÍÍÛÉ ÔÅÍÄÅÐ,À ÏÎÊÓÏÀÒÜ ÊÈÒÀÉÑÊÈÉ ÝÏÈÔÎÍ ÑÒÀÍÄÀÐÒ ÇÀ 15000 ÝÒÎ ÈÇÄÅÂÀÒÅËÜÑÒÂÎ. ÇÀÐÀÍÅÅ ÑÏÀÑÈÁÎ ÇÀ ÏÎÌÎÙÜ!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: ÏÐÎÊÀÍÑÓËÜÒÈÐÓÉÒÅ ÏÎÆÀËÓÑÒÀ TANAKA
Âðåìÿ: 01.12.2007 21:34 |
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Y menya takii greco pastayanna iesiti. No sluchaina sichas torika 1. paetam priijyai kakoi ta 20.12 takda ya dumayu sito bibol iesti tanaka 89166592837 |
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 02.12.2007 21:34 |
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À áîëòû íà ñòðàòå íå ìåøàþò? êñòàòè âñå èáàíåçû 70õ ãîäîâ íà áîëòàõ, áîëåå òîãî Ãèáñîí L6 (å¸ ðåêëàìèðîâàë Ñàíòàíà íà êàòàëîãå 1979à íà áîëòàõ) Èáàíåç JEM íà áîëòàõ -ïèæîí òû Àðñåí. À êàê òû òüþíèíãîâàë Ôåíäåð, äî ÷åãî òàì íå äîäóìàëèñü? C èíòåðåñîì Ãðèãîðèé |
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2007 00:05 |
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Moscow from Tokyo Fender Jazz Bass 1978 
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ni panimayu bashi bapros chibo meshaet? skvaznoi grif toje minus iesti. tanaka 89166592837 |
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2007 03:06 |
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÷å ïðèñòàëè,÷å äóðèòå. ïðîñòî îäèí õîðîøèé äðóã áðàë ó TANAKè ýïèôîí ÿïîíñêèé,òîò â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü îòìåòèë ÷òî åñòü ãðåêî âêëååíûé ñ îäíèì áîëòîì(ÿ íå ïðåäñòàâëÿþ êàê òàì),ïîñåðåäèíå ÷òî ëè.à ïðèåçæàòü èç ÿðîñëàâñêîé îáëàñòè è óâèäåòü ñþðïðèç ýòî óæå àâàíòþðà. ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ ôåíäåðà,(áðèäæ óòîïëåí íàìåðòâî)òî èçíà÷àëüíî âñå áûëî íîðìàëüíî. ïîòîì ïîÿâèëîñü íåîáõàäèìîñòü â ïåðåãðóçå, à ó ñèíãëîâ êàê òî íå òî ÷òî íå êàòèò, à ïðîñòî äðóãîé çâóê(áîëåå öåïêèé ÷òî-ëè). íåê ïîñòàâèë áðèäæåâûé êóë ðåëñ, à â áðèäæ íåêîâûé äèì-î ïàô ïðî.òåæåëåå ïðîñòî íå õîòåëîñü (âåäü êëàñè÷åñêèé ñòðàò),äà è óæå ãîä èãðàþ äæàç ,ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íåêàÿ ñòðàííàÿ òåïëîòà,äà è áîëåå óíèâåðñàëüíåå. òåïåðü ïðî áîëòû . äåëî äàæå íå â íèõ. ïîèãðàé íà êàêîì -íèáóäü áîë÷åííîì ïîäîëüøå â âûñîêèõ ïîçèöèÿõ,à ïîòîì âîçüìè âêëååíûé è ïîáðîáóé ãðàìîòíî ïîäóðèòü.áîëüøîé ïàëåö êàê óäîáíî ñåáÿ ÷óâñòâóåò?ïðîñòî ãèáñîíàïîäîáíûå äëÿ äðóãèõ öåëåé. P.S. ïðîñòî ïðîäàòü îòíàñèòåëüíî äîðîãîé èíñðóìåíò â íàøåì ãîðîäå êðàéíå ñëîæíî , à ìîæåò è íåâîçìîæíî.ïîýòîìó òàêîé òþíèíã!!! |
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2007 07:41 |
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Safsem ya ni panimayu, no iesri thi gabarishi 1 bolt na Greco lespole, eta torika iz za tabo sito na "sud" ni rugaetsa s Gibson. Asobenna, kakda patent nachol rugatsa b 80s, Greco pridumal hittorinasti, Do etaba 100% kopirabal. No 80s, ani nachili ni mnosika drugoi stractura pridumachi. Paetam brinsipe krinobii grif. Daje fuje chem Grekoskii 100% kopi model, trudna skazachi. No iesri gabarim "ni 100% kopi", eta "da". Tanaka 89166592837 |
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2007 20:18 |
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çäðàñòâóéòå TANAKA.ÿ ÷òî- òî íå ïîíÿë(âû ïèøåòå ïî àíãëèéñêè)ýòî îçíà÷àåò ÷òî äî 80ãîäà ãðåê áûë ïîëíîé êîïèåé ãèáñîíà? äà è êñòàòè ñêàæèòå ïîæàëóñòà ìåæäó ãðåêî ñòàíäàðò è ãðåêî êîñòîì ãëîáàëüíàÿ ðàçíèöà? â ÷àñòíîñöè êëàññà è èçãîòîâëåíèÿ íó è ñòîèìîñòè?ïðî çâóê òðóäíî ñïðàøèâàòü íàäî ñëóøàòü |
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2007 22:08 |
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Moscow from Tokyo Fender Jazz Bass 1978
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I just wanted to explain the situation of "copy war". In the 70s, still Japanese labor cost was cheap, and when they can already produce high quality goods, Greco, Tokai and other Japanese manufactures attacked USA market. But of course, since they have no know-how, they purchased USA gibson and fender guitars, and produced copy. These copy models have enough quality and cheaper than USA, so Japanese producers occupied certain share of guitars.But Gibson and Fender insisted that thier violation of patent about design (structure). Actually they had several court case in USA. But Japanese manufactures made little bit different design, especially "head stock" and "joint part of neck and body", Japanese can continue to sell these copy models. Finally, Fender provided production right to Greco, That is Fender Japan. Because General Director of Fender was former general diretor of YAMAHA USA, and he knew well about technology of Japanese producer, and he knows the potential of Greco. And Gibson established Orville brand, and started to sell rather cheper brand in Japan. Providing production right to Japanese, American GIbson and Fender stopped this "copy war" in the 80s. Tanaka 89166592837 |
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Òåìà: Re: GRECO LESPOLE
Âðåìÿ: 03.12.2007 22:12 |
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Regardint to Greco, in the top grade, they have only Lespole Standard. But they are more expensive than usual Gibson. Because they are using very expensive materials, and making guitars by "deep Joint" style connection, and equipped "Dimarzio" pick ups. For expample, tope models of Greco like EG900, 1000, 1200 are using "Ebony (chyornii dereba)" in finger board. For example, EG1200 in good condition are sold in Japan about 2000-2500usd now.OF course they are more expensive than usual GIbson. And quality is higher than Gibson. About custom, Greco made only in midium class models. Tanaka 89166592837 |
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